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HGH #12 - Lifting Equipment/Gear

00:00.00

christophknoll

Welcome back everybody we got a brand new episode today.

00:02.68

Paul Garny

We got the hall of gain tonight perchey podcast here. We got Paul and christoph again as per usual so we're gonna be just having a basic conversation today. Nothing too serious just wanted to have some fun with it and hopefully you guys can listen in and enjoy as well.

00:19.40

christophknoll

No, this podcast is only completely serious. We never have any fun on here. Ah, ah you either live and die by the fitness or you just don't do it at all.

00:23.81

Paul Garny

There's no laughing ever. No jokes. Fitness fitness is not a joke.

00:34.69

Paul Garny

Yeah, you're just not involved. You're like you're like um Ethan from h three h three whatever it's called where he's like he's like there's so many better things to do with your life than exercise dude's car probably got like 20 nanograms test in a system.

00:50.27

christophknoll

That's actually like the the super toxic side of the whole gym world like if saying like if you're not a hundred percent in this like and you don't live and breathe every every single aspect of it. You don't you're not dedicated like that's that's such a toxic side of things.

00:50.47

Paul Garny

But.

01:05.21

Paul Garny

Yeah I used to listen to a lot of like CTFletcher back in the day. Um because his stuff was very motivating but like I kind of started seeing it as really toxic because his whole mentality is like you have to be obsessed and it's like I don't think you got to be obsessed like it was like if you don't. Eat Sleep breathe like have you know, bodybuilding or really anything whatever you're focusing on like consume your life. You're not going to succeed in it and it's like I get where he's coming from but I that's just not healthy like look at anybody who's like on the olympia stage or just recently gotten pro like. Most people, especially just recently gotten pro that a full-time Job. You know they got their hobbies a lot of them have Families. So I mean you can't just like let something like consume your entire life. So like that. Shit's definitely toxic.

01:52.46

christophknoll

Yeah I mean I just you become too one dimensional if if everything you do is just you know I know for us, it's the gym like if I only did the gym I'd be I'd be I mean sure it might be fun for me. But no I would have no friends.

02:08.18

Paul Garny

Yeah, yeah, I hear that and there's a saying that goes along with it. So there's the old saying a lot of people references Jack of all trades then there's also Jack of all trades master of none and that a lot of people say but the real saying the full entire saying is Jack of all trades master of none.

02:20.95

christophknoll

Um.

02:26.85

Paul Garny

Is better than master of one. So it's better to be kind of spread out a little bit and enjoy and know more than 1 thing than it is to only know one thing even though you're not a master at 1 thing you can have you know different focuses in life and I think that that's what gives life purpose. So like when bodybuilders.

02:30.40

christophknoll

Ah.

02:46.45

Paul Garny

Have like ah q and as on their Instagram and stuff like that I always think it's funny to see like all the questions about bodybuilding but then I'll throw in like what other hobbies do you have and they get all excited about it and like talk about their other hobbies because there's not there's more to it than just bodybuilding you know, just because like their content is focused on it.

02:56.69

christophknoll

Ah.

03:04.83

Paul Garny

Doesn't mean that that's all who they are you know like my coach. He's huge in a bodybuilding pro competing got clients and everything but he's huge into films. He's like his own film cra. Yeah, that's all he does all he does is food and gym and clients. Um.

03:15.10

christophknoll

Nope Nope he does nothing else. He he only yeah only does the jump.

03:22.59

Paul Garny

But yeah, he yeah he likes films. So it's like you never know like what people are into until you ask him and I think that that's that's important.

03:27.37

christophknoll

I think that master of all quote you said I think that's a Johnny sins quote.

03:32.24

Paul Garny

Yeah, he's He's a that's a good example of a jack of all trades he's done everything in life.

03:37.93

christophknoll

Yes, ah, but yeah, ah getting into our main topic today though. Um, we just wanted to kind of have a little conversation on um, well we could start with Apparel and you know. Things that we wear to the gym things that we see others wear to the gym and also kind of there is kind of a progression of what you wear when you're at the gym. Um, so like if you if you're like a per if I'm gonna say Joe Schmo but if you're like some.

04:01.20

Paul Garny

Me.

04:09.82

christophknoll

Regular dude who's just getting into the gym sorry got to say gal too. Um, but if you're just some regular person getting into the gym for the first time pretty much 100% of the time you're wearing something baggy over because if you're in there, especially for weight loss. You probably don't like the way you look.

04:10.72

Paul Garny

I.

04:27.77

christophknoll

And so that's where the bag he sweats on the Bagy sweatshirt comes in and ah.

04:29.34

Paul Garny

Yeah I know when I got started I was wearing like so I went to really when I got started was vanarchy and there's no when it comes to their atmosphere like the the actual temperature in the gym. There's really no onebe between so it's either cold. Like coldest shit during the winter are hot as balls during the summer because there's no, there's there. There are like space heaters and like little Ac units but they don't heat the air cool the entire place so it my apparel there was just entirely dependent on whatever temperature. It was that day like let's say it was like. Ah, normal temperature I could wear either way. Um I typically wore like um t-shirt and ah like basketball shorts like that went down to like my knees like I don't even have the shirt anymore. Yeah, it was awful but like that's what I was wearing um and then just like.

05:16.10

christophknoll

The 90 s look.

05:24.63

Paul Garny

Vans or like whatever shoes I was wearing at the time is is what I was typically wearing and then it kind of you know transitioned over time I mean especially during the winter here when it was cold in there. It's like Sweatshirt and s sweatpantts or even jeans sometimes depending on how busy I was that day and that's how you stayed warm. So like when I so. Anybody listening I'm coming up to Massachusetts on Thursday so when I come up there I'm going to at least train at vaernerrky once. So if you're in Massachusetts you know, hit me up. We might train or something like that. But with that being said, vanarchy is probably going to be cold enough to where I'm going to need a sweatshirt and sweatppans for like the entire workout. So I might I might hit legs on Thursday there because legs is insane at vanarchy from what I can remember I don't know how many pieces they've changed or gotten rid of or anything but um, fan legs. There is pretty is always pretty fun, but ah ah yeah whenever I'd trained there during the winter. It's sweat. Sweatshirt sweat paints until I'm drenched and sweat and super hot then I'll slowly strip. But that's how that worked for me.

06:25.81

christophknoll

Yeah I know that when I first got into the gym. It was just whatever I like whatever clean laundry I really had because I really didn't care what I look like um I did a whole lot of you know, just the whatever athletic bottoms I had and then just. T-shirts and stuff like I didn't really care too much too too much. But um I know for a fact that once I got like a month in and got like really serious like I started to wear tank tops I started to wear well not tank tops but those like athletic tank tops I'm not talking to like a wife beater but I'm talking about like.

06:44.36

Paul Garny

With.

07:01.81

christophknoll

Um, athletic cut tank tops. The ones that like Nike sells and stuff like that. Um, and ah just different basketball jerseys too like I'd wear stuff like that to the gym. Um, but then at some point in my progression I got confident and I don't know if it was confident in my.

07:05.20

Paul Garny

Um, okay yeah.

07:12.20

Paul Garny

Money.

07:21.80

christophknoll

Chest it probably wasn't because I'm not very confident in my chest or he's probably confident in my abs and obliques. But I start wearing muscle cuts so muscle cuts tear all the way down your side and that just became easy for me because I had a I'm six four and I'm pretty lean and so it's hard for me to find you know shirts that fit.

07:27.80

Paul Garny

Yeah, yeah.

07:40.47

christophknoll

Real nice. So I have just a boatload of shirts that are either too square for me or too boxy and stuff like that. So I was able just knock off the sleeves on the sides of those and I have just hundreds of you know muscle cut shirts of just random things. Um.

07:56.55

Paul Garny

I Mean um, it makes sense because it's like if you you either get a shirt that's too short or a shirt that's suit that's too wide. So if you get a shirt that's too wide. You could just cut it down So it's muscle cut Essentially that makes sense.

08:04.52

christophknoll

You know? yeah and that's that's also why I need to buy more also as we talk throughout this session Paul and I are not affiliated with nor endorsed by any brands that we talk about so just want to throw that out there before we start name dropping different brands excuse me.

08:20.72

Paul Garny

Who I agree.

08:23.70

christophknoll

But um, like ah a brand that Paul and I wear all the time is steel steel supplements. They do bundles all the time for their t-shirts and back when I got my first steel shirt I bought a large and that was the size that I thought would fit me and I put it on once and. It made my arms look fantastic, but it was almost like a crop top because of how tall I am and so it's very difficult for me to wear that and then you know I buy the extra large and I still have a little bit of space inside of it so it actually gives me I actually like buying bigger clothes because it gives me a goal like. I want to fill out this shirt like I want to fill out this sweatshirt something like that pants like I've I've bought slim fit pants for the majority of my life because I've been thin and ah this past summer I've tried to put on my teaching slacks that I like my slacks I just own for teaching and my quads just got stuck and I was like. You know that's a good feeling right? there. So I think that you know it's an interesting progression to think about for where you go where you start from where you go. Um.

09:22.97

Paul Garny

Yeah.

09:35.54

Paul Garny

Yeah I mean shirt size does kind of tell a little bit of a story. Um, my goal in bodymenting was always until relatively recently it was always um, three Xl I wanted to get to big enough to need a every 3 excel shirt but now it's like. I think like lean in an extra large shirt I'd be fucking massive like that's kind of where I want to be like prior like to excel offseason but like extra large like on-season like cutting I think would be like my ideal spot that I'd want to be but now it's like.

09:57.16

christophknoll

O.

10:11.98

Paul Garny

I'm not the leanist right now I'm still working on it I'm going on actually more like a keto based diet soon according to the meal plan just because I didn't really I'm losing weight but I'm not losing fat so we gotta cut out more carbs. But um, I'll be ah like right now I'm like a large kind of but with a decent amount of Fat. Um. At least enough to like um not have supervascularity. You know, not supervascular anything and then ah kind of see my like upper abs a little bit that's at least for me on the fatter side. So um, that's where I'm wearing a large but once I lean out. And trim down a bit I think I'll be give or take like a lot like a medium like like squeezing into a medium though like I'm wearing a medium right now. Yeah I'm wearing a I would fucking Love ah like so I'm wearing a medium right now and it's It's pretty tight I'm not wearing it.

10:56.44

christophknoll

The sch media. Um.

11:06.33

Paul Garny

To like wear the t-shirt I wearing it just to have something on underneath the sweatshirt and I'm going to hit chess later and just take off the shirt and sweatshirt at the same time. But um I was like an inch away from making a company um an apparel company that specialized in making making medium large shirts like.

11:25.97

christophknoll

Ah.

11:26.24

Paul Garny

In between medium and large because that's the sweet spot right there so it was I talked to a private label company that specializes in Apparel and I told them what I was thinking. Um it ended up being like I didn't.

11:42.81

Paul Garny

What I wanted was I wanted a test shirt I wanted to see if it actually would fit well and how people would react to it. Um, but obviously you have to bulk order in order to get started so it didn't end up coming to fruition because I couldn't even test the product. But um, so it was going to be. The idea that I had was I basically took like medium and large measurements and what I did was I kept like the the chest and the shoulder area like the actual like top part of the shirt the measurements the same but then the armband I brought in. Halfway between medium and large and then the trunk and waist I brought it to halfway between medium and large because especially when you're in bodybuilding. Your biggest issue is going to be your chest and your lats in the back that chest circumference is going to be your biggest problem. Your dealts are always gonna be a problem too when I'm wearing regular shirts my shirt like.

12:38.18

christophknoll

Then.

12:38.32

Paul Garny

Sleeves I come out like they kind of point outwards because of my doubts and then your trunk as well too because like that's not really that big of an issue because your trunk is smaller than your shirt typically but I would I wanted a shirt that would come in and show the v shape that like bodybuilders. Ah. You know, go for so you know having the wider last the bigger chest bigger doubts and then having this slimmer waist that was the idea that I wanted was that you don't you didn't have to take off your shirt to show that um a lot of stringers kind of go for that. Um, which I mean I'll be talking about in a few minutes. But um, that was my idea for the shirt and then the other idea I had was. Ah, wanted to have like kind of like a checkered pattern. So. It'd be 4 big squares. Um sideways. So like the point would meet kind of in the middle of your chest but the left and right would have black squares on your sides and then white up top and then white down below. So what this would do is it would almost look like. Because black is a slimming color. It would visually it would pull in your waist and your hips inwards because of the black color slimming it down. But then you're white at the top would widen the top of the shirt visually and the bottom. Would bring in your would bring in your waist a little bit because the square the black square would reached out to the bottom so it would look it physically look like you're going like an x. It's like an x shape so that was the idea that I had it didn't come to fruition unfortunately, but um, I've really I've really thought about this.

14:00.75

christophknoll

Oh ah.

14:08.72

Paul Garny

Like I gave it a lot of thought but that's my goal if if somebody wants to make that by all means I mean I don't know if I'm ever going to make um that company. So if somebody he wants to take that idea and run run with it by all means you have my permission.

14:09.88

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, that's intense.

14:21.48

christophknoll

I was going to say we just we leaked company secrets on air.

14:25.76

Paul Garny

Nothing was nothing was patented or even designed or anything. It's just an idea so somebody who wants to take that and run with it I will gladly get a few free shirts. Thank you.

14:38.14

christophknoll

Ah, um, to kind of put on the the specific you know piece of Apparel though. Let's keep talking shirts though and um so I think let's mention the progression again and then kind of go from there. But.

14:44.80

Paul Garny

Um, yeah.

14:56.16

christophknoll

Ah, generally speaking like I've seen a lot of this too if you're overweight or you know not particularly pleased with how you look the long sleeve crew neck I see that all the time in the gym and I think that's a good starting place, especially for a pump cover too. Once you actually get into the. You know, if once you start feeling good and start working out consistently. Um because that kind of hides. Everything. So between the the sweatshirt hoodie and long sleeve crew neck I think those 3 are kind of like your starters. Um for when you first get into the gym versus or not versus but then additionally like. Just turn naturally progressing into a pump cover. Um, but like Paul and I have talked about with how we we have goals on bigger sizes and the more you work out those things you wear when you first get into the gym. You're probably not going to be fitting into give it you know a year or 2 from that point like I know. Ah. I have a couple long sleeve shirts that fit me great. Oh god what four 3 years ago something like that and now when I put them on like the 1 thing that I notice with all of my shirts is that I feel like I'm getting choked out because of how my you know my natural shoulder or my sorry words. My shoulders have widened which give what's stretch out the top of the shirt some more and while my chest is not huge I've developed chest so it pops out a little bit there too which just all all of that combined titans around the collar and I literally feel like I'm getting choked in almost all of my old shirts so that.

16:13.19

Paul Garny

The.

16:31.18

Paul Garny

Can't forget your traps too building your traps that go up your neck a little bit so building up your traps is Goingnna expand that as well. So I have that problem with regular shirts too. A lot of shirts that I get from like Tgm Max Target stuff like that. The the hole is a little too small.

16:33.10

christophknoll

That's true. The ah.

16:46.60

Paul Garny

Like it kind of pulls in because you also build your neck muscles up your front side neck muscles and your traps too So that also contributes to your neck your neck hole issue.

16:48.31

christophknoll

On him.

16:55.65

christophknoll

Yeah, and that's why I wear a ton of v-neck shirts and then you'll see if you ever work out with me if I take a shirt and turn it into a muscle cut which is what I do with everything. Um I actually take just a knife or a pair of scissors and I just cut right down the center of the collar. Because I just need that space to Breathe. Um, so I think that's kind of like where we all more or less start now where I think it kind of deviates a little bit from the standard norm is what people have underneath because I see some people wear like you had mentioned wearing that 2 X three X Like. Ah, in the gym. That's you know well oversized and I know that's very very popular when you start getting into the bigger side of the gym world because I don't know if it's from hiding you want like a t-shirt pump cover or if it's just from how the look is but I see it. Across the board ah with an higher gym world I Guess I could say so I know if you want to touch on that like where where does where does the big t-shirt trend come from.

17:53.34

Paul Garny

Um, yet.

17:58.96

Paul Garny

Well, it's just like I'm talking like physically having to actually wear one because if everything else is too small. So like I want is to get to 3 excel specifically to be that size to where I would actually necessitate the 3 Xl like if I were two excel too small. Yes, yes.

18:04.96

christophknoll

B.

18:10.70

christophknoll

Do you? You know what? I'm do you know what? I'm talking about though. Okay.

18:16.47

Paul Garny

Um, so that's where I was coming from but nowadays what you see now is that a lot of guys are wearing excels or 2 excels especially on days like leg day because there's this whole like kind of like stigma almost at this point where if you wear baggy clothing on leg Day. You're you're like 50% stronger I don't know why. And then um, the same time. There's the whole like pump cover thing which is kind of stupid to me. Um, like in a sense because like for someone like cbum like it's almost like you want to hide your physique in a sense.

18:36.23

christophknoll

Ah.

18:50.67

Paul Garny

Ah, so when you take ah when he takes off his sweatshirt and like he's lean for a show like right now like right now he's like about two weeks out from the olympia like he's getting real fucking lean right now. So like if he goes in wearing a baggy shirt and then he takes that off for like ah like a pretty tight stringer. Like everybody's going to be looking because he had that pump cover on and you don't know what's underneath until he took it off but these dudes like Joe Schmuel over here who's been in the gym for two months thinks that he's going to take up his pump cover and the gym's going to go solid and it's like.

19:15.83

christophknoll

Any.

19:19.69

Paul Garny

Very very very few people could ever make a gym go silent from taking off your pump cover I've never seen it happen. First of all so that's kind of where the big baggy shirt came from is that they could like wear the shirt and're like oh I feel skinny but bla bla then they take off the shirt and they're like oh shit I'm actually kind of jacked like that's kind of. I Think where it came from in the whole like social media kind of aspect of pump covers. But um I think you just need to like for for general confidence atmosphere. You know, culture stuff like that just wear good fitting clothing that isn't going to rip that isn't going to um you know. You're going to grow out of too fast Obviously like for me I have that issue where I feel like my clothing is constantly changing because I'm bulking cutting bulking cutting and then you know I kind of like even when I am on the cutting side medium is still kind of too little small so it is still kind of tight. Um. So just find like good fitting clothing and kind of run with it. Um, especially like like shirts is a big one because when people are looking at you. They're going to see the shirt the most um not to mention if you're wearing anything on your head like a hat or anything like that. But let's say your shirt. That's what's going to really. People are going to really associate with you. So if you're wearing a baggy shirt that just doesn't fit well and kind of goes over your elbows and shit. Um, then. That's what they're going to associate with you is clothes that don't fit Well. So if you wear a good fitting clothing good fitting t-shirts even in the gym. It's just going to.. It's just going to elevate your actual perception.

20:50.96

Paul Garny

Um, obviously I'm not some stupid like dating coach or some shit like that. Um, but that's just typically how society works is that when you have better fitting clothing. They're going to put you at a higher status level in their head because you know how to shop for yourself and you know how to wear clothing for yourself. So. Something to keep in mind.

21:08.92

christophknoll

In my head I have absolutely silenced many gyms in in my head.

21:13.50

Paul Garny

Yeah, 1 person's like glances at you for a second you're like I fucking knew it everybody was looking I fucking knew it that one it over there glanced at me for splits second and I knew they were waiting for me to take off my poem cover.

21:26.29

christophknoll

I know I I did it sometimes I and this gets a little toxic sometimes I'll take off my pump cover in a direction of someone like if I if I get like ah if I think I get like a bad look from someone I kind of do my.

21:38.64

Paul Garny

I.

21:43.94

christophknoll

You know when you stand you finish your set and I'm the person that does like the three sixty hands on the hips looks at everything in the gym. So if I think I got a bad look from someone I'll just kind of keep eye contact with them and then just take off my pump cover. Um, because I wear basically one sweatshirt every single lift and ah.

21:49.43

Paul Garny

Um, yeah, yeah.

22:01.60

Paul Garny

Yep.

22:02.24

christophknoll

I I will and I struggle with it because this sweatshirt even is starting to get a little bit small on me. So I'm sitting there like trying to get my arm through the through the armhole and eventually pull it off over my head and I'm like yeah, everybody just saw that and in reality nobody cares.

22:17.90

Paul Garny

Yeah, exactly I wear I wear sometimes I'll wear shorts under my especially for like day I'll wear shorts under my under my like joggers or pants or something so when somebody's looking at me I'll just pull down my pants and look at them between my legs from behind but I'm just getting um. But yeah, no, there is that whole like kind of confidence thing behind like ah behind ah pump covers and I I kind of do it for just myself like because what I'll do like today ches day chesea is one of my favorite days to do this what I'll do is I'll get like a chest pump going or like start my workout and start sweating. And then I'll take it off and then immediately kind of like go into posing or or flexing in general contracting it and just kind of see where like I am underneath the clothing there. There is a little bit to it. But I mean I know I'm not going to silence any gyms anytime soon like that's going to take a decade if I even get to that point. But. Typically you could also tell like usually like when you're under when guys are under bigger sweatshirts. You can kind of tell when these dudes are built but ah, you know most guys aren't like that typically even even pros like like most pros like I would say like 95% of pros. They have to tell you they're pro. In order for you to really know? um because it's like it's especially nowadays I mean we've talked about this before on the podcast. it's it's um very watered down the pro cards very watered down not to discredit it at al all. But I think that what you're placing is in what show it is is more important than actually having a pro card at this point like.

23:46.40

Paul Garny

So if you're like oh I like if you won like a national like the national championship or some sort of national show. That's more important than like winning Overall National is much more important than getting your pro card because it's so watered down now. So it's like these dudes are like yeah I just recently made pro and I'm like I mean that's great man I'm happy for you.

24:02.11

christophknoll

How how'd you do it.

24:06.81

Paul Garny

Like yeah well I mean when I'm talking like when I'm talking to them. It's great, but like I'm not really saying anything about it but like I'll see guys on social media like recently make pro and I'm just like I mean okay I don't really see that personally as like a pro look. Um I think would need more work but like.

24:24.31

Paul Garny

That's the problem too is that especially in men's physique especially men's physique and when they're wiring a sweatshirt and pants or something almost never can you tell that? um, they're pro or like bodybuiled because you know they don't judge Legs so typically a lot of men's physique guys don't focus on legs which is kind of changing now which is great. But like when they're when you know they're not men's physi competitors like you know I'm going to be 1 coming up soon. We're not the biggest dudes ever you know, but we're going to be some of the ideally some of the most diced on stage but actual size. Not that big. You know a lot of a lot of men's physi competitors are under £200 which when you were in a sweatshirt you can probably get away with a large sweatshirt and not really show much. You know, but it's just how it is it also depends on the guy too. I mean I know some dudes are off top my head their arms fucking explode out of sweatshirts. But that's they're one like pro I guess they're one like big strength. For instance.

25:21.45

christophknoll

Yeah I I think that's an interesting way to think about it too like how you never know. It's that whole you know don't judge a book by its cover type thing like you never know what's what's underneath. But sometimes you can tell Um, so.

25:32.71

Paul Garny

Yeah, yeah, if they're really huge dudes you can tell but I mean that's all that's all fitness is is 100% judging a book by its cover. That's all it is you know if you're judging someone based off their personality fucking half these pros wouldn't be pros because they're all assholes like they're fucking.

25:50.17

christophknoll

Yep.

25:50.91

Paul Garny

Half the men's physique dus and and on the olympia stage are awful human beings like it just sucks to say it. But it's true I mean you're going to get just like any large group of people you're going to get the general population and the general population is you know, not the nicest people I mean as far as like I'm saying when you assume. Someone's a good person. You can also equally assume that someone's not a good person so you're going to get a good mixture of everybody because it's a general you know population of people. Um and the same thing goes for like ah where is it going with this the same thing goes for like how. Ah, the the the class is portrayed right? The class is actually like competed in. So unfortunately I think that a lot of the more toxic people are in men's physique. The guys who are. Are as big as the other guys I think so most of the guys who are extremely humble and extremely nice are the bigger dudes which is interesting to see um and some of the most toxic guys which we're going to be getting into later are not even in bal the but bodybuil so we'll be talking about that later on. But yeah, it's like whatever you're wearing. Outside the gym almost never portrays who you really are. But then when you're talking about like super heavyweight guys who compete in men's open stuff like that. The guys who are like close to £300 like there's no hiding that like there's dudes that I can think off off top my head where no matter what pants they're they're wearing you can tell they got fucking legs. Dude they got trunks. But.

27:22.39

Paul Garny

That's just part of it. You know that's just part of the app the the actual like bodybuilding. Essentially you're going to not be able to fit in it like look at fucking Kai Green dude you can't even wear proper pants or sweatshirts because he's so fucking big green and he's also on the shorter side but like his sweat his lats like. If he were to do a handstand you could rest a plate on his fucking lower lats so wearing a sweatshirt is not exactly the easiest thing and most pants for him because his legs are so big like he has to like wear specific sweat pans and stuff just to get by grand and you can wear like joggers and stuff like that. But like.

27:46.67

christophknoll

Ah.

28:01.39

Paul Garny

That's why there's like the whole like thing about bodybuilders walking with their legs spread out but it's the truth when you build your I always fucking mix them up I think it's your aductors the ones in the middle I always mix them up I can never get it when you when you build up your aductors the muscles between your like your thighs you they physically. Like stop you from walking with more of a straight stride. So ah, you know I've experienced it before where I had to start to walk with my legs a little bit wider for that reason Obviously joggers is you know the route that most people go. But yeah, it's hard to shot for these guys. The super heavy weight guys are very hard to shop for.

28:39.82

christophknoll

I'm 100% running Coleman underneath my sweatshirt. Yeah, who who who who.

28:40.86

Paul Garny

Yeah, you're bigger than Ronnie he's scared of you. That's why you don't you don't lift at Metrolex you lift at empire. Yeah yeah, what I got it if you had like a platform like if you have like a platform like you got you got a decent amount of following you're on a like. Let's say like. Got a big enough platform to go on Ronney Coleman I mean not Ronnie Coleman um Joe Rogan's podcast and he's like oh Onie Coleman said this, you'd be like who's that like I it's the funest fucking joke ever is so funny. Like yeah when Jay Cutler said this who's that who's Jake Cutler I don't know who that is.

29:02.57

christophknoll

Um, yeah, ah oh ah.

29:11.11

christophknoll

Yeah, so i. Ah, yeah, when Arnold said you can either have results or excuses who who.

29:21.35

Paul Garny

You competed the arnold classic. Oh I thought it's just a random name.

29:27.44

christophknoll

Ah, it's like God you know we just got to assign a name.

29:29.78

Paul Garny

Yeah, there's there's no, there's nothing to it. It's just Arnold. There's no last name which just the arnold classic. It could have been. It could have been the John classic but they could chose arnold that'd be funny.

29:39.52

christophknoll

I But I think that kind of highlights and continues to highlight the toxicity that we all see in the gym and it's funny How a lot of our conversations. Regardless what we talk about comes back to this but it's like there's so much in the gym that can trigger toxicity and it's like.

29:54.85

Paul Garny

Um, a.

29:59.35

christophknoll

Apparel is a big big one of it like if you wear a certain you know piece of clothing. So Let's say you're wearing some kind of a form fittting t-shirt or something like that and someone thinks that your form isn't good enough to fill out that frame or something like that they they make some kind of a toxic reference like it's.. It's no fun and like I see it across every gem like planet. Especially I used to see it all the time. Um, but yeah, yeah, absolutely and then I Also definitely see it at Empire too.

30:22.90

Paul Garny

Which just so ironic because it's the judge rezone but it's the most judgey Jim can possibly go to including apparel.

30:35.49

christophknoll

There is like. For example, there's the social media page the empire runs and the other day you know they they repost whenever someone puts up a story with the words empire like that the tag in it. They'll repost it to their main page. They don't do it for me for some reason so someone's got beef with me but ah, they ah. And there's this one dude who posts like the consecutive not consecutive, but just the total amount of Daisy's been in the gym like he's that like 870 something like it makes I mean ah to me that makes no sense. Why I'd be counting days like that.

31:07.55

Paul Garny

Um, like back to back with no rest.

31:09.91

christophknoll

No, no, no like just oh like he picked a day when he started going to the gym and just started counting from there and ah like it like well exactly once you eclipse 1 or 2 years you're just saying years but ah regardless he posted like day 800

31:13.18

Paul Garny

Oh okay, you're gonna say years.

31:21.67

Paul Garny

Um, yeah, and even then by month. Yeah, yeah days is a bit.

31:25.37

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, something like that like some other interval other than days and don't and don't go so shorter I've been in the gym for 1800 63 hours

31:34.73

Paul Garny

Yeah, you go by seconds I'm I'm approach I'm approaching 300000000 seconds hey

31:43.78

christophknoll

Ah, um, but he he posted this picture is like day 875 and I was like cool. He's like he's almost at the 3 year Mark like good for you and then then it said I hate when I see these people carry all these plates to the leg press and then do a half set. Half rep ah set and then get all hyped up about it and I was like the first off, there's so many plates that there's no way someone actually brought the a plate over to the leg press machine and if they did have to pull plates from other places in empire like. Empire is fucking huge they've got tons of plates like there's no reason like not like Ronnie's that's Ronnie wait right? there? Yeah and I was like but that's what I mean I like so this guy who I've never talked to him but I see him all the time at empire like you just run into this level of toxicity and.

32:20.84

Paul Garny

Yeah, he's bar. Yeah yeah, he's just projecting his anger.

32:33.12

Paul Garny

Um, yeah.

32:36.56

christophknoll

People will pick out anything so excuse me yeah that very much includes apparel So like go ahead, go ahead.

32:38.37

Paul Garny

Yeah, and close arrow and clothing and all that which no I was just going to say I mean it also translates into women too like there's like this weird. Yeah, like it's like for it sucks because.

32:50.45

christophknoll

Exactly where I was going with this.

32:57.30

Paul Garny

Like for guys we were you know, typically speaking a lot of guys. Especially for pants. Don't really wear anything tight I wear exceedingly tight joggers which is my wife doesn't like but um, she she doesn't like me wearing them out outside the house basically is the problem that I have with my joggers.

33:11.25

christophknoll

The the the the booty is your is hers. Not not not anyone else's.

33:17.42

Paul Garny

Yeah, basically um so I mean that's my own problem but like I feel like a lot of like especially obviously I can't attest to this personally but from what I've seen outside of it. It's like if you are a female in the gym I think that you you need to wear like There's almost like this whole thing especially with pants that you have to wear like leggings or like booty shorts or like on the occasion kind of like those like got Nike like soccer shorts I don't really know what to call them I feel soccer players wearing them.

33:47.36

christophknoll

Yeah, no I know what you're talking about.

33:51.83

Paul Garny

That's the only like 3 types of pants you ever see on women in the gym. It's almost never anything in between and it's like on occasion on occasion. You'll see that but um, like I'm like what what's this I don't get it like I don't like.

33:53.96

christophknoll

The the grick sweat meant to.

34:08.12

Paul Garny

Like what? why do you need to wear that like what? what's what's the thing. What's the thought process behind it because it's like typically when I wear things to the gym I'll either wear something that um complements whatever I'm working on so like today I'm wearing a stringer because I'm hitting gym for instance or it's of course I'm hitting Jim Fucking oh

34:23.32

christophknoll

We go Jim.

34:27.83

Paul Garny

Jeez I'm hitting gym We go Gym. No I'm I'm hitting chest today. So of course I'm going to wear a stringer so I can see my chest and then I'm also wearing like relatively tight joggers so that like when I'm posing in the locker room after it kind of gives like the whole like physique look but like when you're when you're a female wearing like joggers and you're hitting arms or not joggers legins and. Yoga pants and you're wearing you're hitting arms like I Just don't get it because it's like some of these like it sucks like I think there's got there's got to be some sort of stigma behind it right? There's got to be some sort of like you don't really go to the gym if you don't wear like like pants that literally so like you.

35:00.49

christophknoll

Well so ah so few women actually hit up her body though. So I I mean that is part of it. But I think also like it doesn't matter what they're hitting. They have to appease whoever they're sending.

35:02.90

Paul Garny

Butthole sucks the fucking fabric into like I don't.

35:17.53

christophknoll

Or general public their pump picks So like for example, if ever if a gal hits back I saw this the other day because I mean this gal was doing pull-ups so wide grip like palm facing out pullups like has to be a back workout and um, then she immediately went up to the mirror.

35:18.73

Paul Garny

And social media.

35:28.50

Paul Garny

Yeah.

35:36.64

christophknoll

And this is in front of everybody mind you not even like going to the gym 2 or the bathroom or something like that where you can take better pictures but like just in front of everybody in front of the big mirror taking that that weird turnaround booty picture thing that gals do like even though she only hit back. So.

35:43.34

Paul Garny

Um, the.

35:48.20

Paul Garny

Yeah.

35:55.10

Paul Garny

Ah, yeah.

35:55.56

christophknoll

There must be I mean I think it has to do with you know, appeasing those who you're setting pictures like the the dopamine hit of I mean I don't get this a ton excuse me. But like if a gal posts a picture and if she's a fairly attractive gal. She's probably got at least a couple hundred.

36:03.28

Paul Garny

If you have validation.

36:15.33

christophknoll

Dude horny us dudes in her Dms commenting on it and she gets a dopamine hit off of every single one of those like a brief little hey I did good because this dude thinks I I look good and so even though this particular gal hit back. She probably posted the booty pick like emphasizing the booty just to get a rise out of the dudes.

36:32.58

Paul Garny

Yeah, that's fair, Yeah, it's just it's just this weird thing that I see because it's like even people who are like just starting in the gym they already have like full matching outfits from gym Shark and shit and it's like okay I mean I guess.

36:34.42

christophknoll

So.

36:47.74

Paul Garny

If that's really what you want to wear. That's completely your prerogative you have full right to wear whatever you want to wear to the gym as long as you're covering everything but I just think that there's there's there's obviously that stigma behind it where like and then that obviously ties into like no matter what you hit. They have to like show the side of their butt like doing that like weird back Flex Leg pose thing but yeah that's just that's just I mean obviously we're not in that world. We don't experience stuff like that. But for men. Yeah.

37:13.63

christophknoll

Well I think I think guys have the opposite side of things. So regardless of whatever we do. We do generally speaking some kind of a front double or something like that like I.

37:25.82

Paul Garny

Yeah, you see a lot of. Ah yeah, you see a lot of front front double and a lot of well if they do it properly a lot of side chests is what you see a lot for guys.

37:32.88

christophknoll

Yeah, but and they'll hit that regardless of what they hit That's more So my point.

37:39.53

Paul Garny

Yeah I mean yeah, it depends I mean I guess it depends because for me like if I'm hitting legs I'm not going to do a front double like I don't flex any of my upper body I just flex my lower body. Um. So I'll just flex my legs I'll just pose with my legs I'll even like do these weird-ass poses that aren't even actually poseed. It's just to see the muscle group. So like I'll kind of like turn around and like when I'm taking a video like kind of flex my hamstring just to see my hamstring flex. So like I guess that's just how I do it at least. But yeah, there is that whole stigma thing. So you you do do got the guys who are. Like um, making sure that they can wear like wearing clothes that look good in their front double side chest stuff like that all the time. Um, but then you get into like that's ah, another problem with guys is that there is more of a focus on upper body and proportionate. Like for women. It's a very very especially in like women's yeah, literally that's it's such a heavy leg focus that they end up hitting like 3 or 4 like days a week in like 2 or 3 upper body days and those 2 or 3 upper body days are like combining tons of different also groups. Obviously you don't want like a super wide.

38:28.94

christophknoll

Have a dumpy and nothing else.

38:46.90

Paul Garny

Upper body. You know I mean it it all depends on whatever division you're competing in but for men no matter what we're competing in you have to have a solid upper body so there is always going to be that like a little bit more focus on upper body. Ah so when you're getting clothes. You got to take into account. Whatever your strengths and weaknesses are so for me, my arms are. Kind of weakness. So those steel shirts that you're mentioning or like I'm wearing a raw shirt right now that are like part of those like bundles where you just pay shipping they they fit really well because they're wider around my chest in my lat that I'm going to need the size or the like actual size of the shirt for. That I buy. Ah so I buy according to my my chest where that's at at the time with my arms. My problem. My arms is that they aren't they're a little bit smaller than the rest of my body so the shirt I need the sleeves to also kind of like elastic inwards from the actual armband which is what those shirts do as you know so That's why those fit me so well. But if I get something from like tgmx or Target or something like that they don't take that into account. So the sleeves are pretty stiff and pretty straight and that's where I get the poking out thing. But then like you know guys might have the opposite problem where you have bigger arms. And your chest is a little bit smaller so you got to buy a cord into your arms because some guys can't get their fucking arms to fit through the damn hole. So that's another thing to keep into account is whatever your strengths and weaknesses are.

40:10.29

christophknoll

Outside of gym clothes I know if I've actually bought regular clothes in a long time because like I just I don't ever buy them like I have stuff that I have stuff that fits or kind of fits and I just I've run with it. Um I don't know.

40:15.98

Paul Garny

Yeah I never wrong either.

40:25.53

christophknoll

I Think the last time I actually bought clothes was this the steel bundles because I like those because they're cheap as all hell. But ah yeah, yeah, excuse me. Um.

40:25.84

Paul Garny

My wife buys me tools stuff. Ah.

40:31.22

Paul Garny

Yeah, it's like ten bucks for shipping and you get a free shirt. Well it's like $10 shirt if you think about it and then just samples of shit after.

40:43.21

christophknoll

Yeah, and I I I also have been kind of looking at stringers now that I'm actually allowed to wear them because you know at Pf I you're not allowed to wear which is the dumbest actually pause we're going to talk about that too. How dumb it is. You can't wear stuff at a Pf here here's our.

40:51.74

Paul Garny

Planetfin if couldn. Yeah.

41:01.32

christophknoll

Daily or our weekly bash pf time. But ah, the fact that you can't wear a stringer really upsets me because Paul and I I mean we've talked about it but a stringer in essence is just a piece of clothing that covers up your privates as a man like because you generally.

41:03.92

Paul Garny

Every week First

41:20.53

christophknoll

Like in public you don't want your your you know your your nipples your Tata showing um in public and stringers can cover that but it allows you to see so much more of your muscles that you're hitting so I know you like them for chess day I like them I don't. I don't really ever wear them. But I love them for shoulders just because I can see everything on my shoulder but that's like the beauty of that style of clothing. You're able to see all the muscles and when that gets banned from somewhere that's sort like hey don't have gains today.

41:38.74

Paul Garny

For her.

41:53.72

christophknoll

Like that's that's literally what that's saying.

41:54.22

Paul Garny

Yeah I mean I think it depends on whatever your level you're at which is kind of what we're talking about earlier like there is there is a stage where I I didn't even know what a stringer was then all of a sudden I find out what string is wearing I was wearing them every single day to the gym. No matter of what I was hitting and then now I'm kind of like I kind of wear clothing that. Like I said compliments whatever I'm hitting so like if I'm wearing like if I'm wearing a stringer. It's most likely chest maybe shoulders but most of the days I'm wearing a steel shirt of some sort um arm days I'll usually wear like 1 of the smaller ones like medium. Um, so that. You know it kind of when I get a arm pump it kind of pushes the sleeves upwards so I can just focus on you know whatever I'm hitting there but the stringer you know you're gonna there's plenty of guys who go who go through faces where that's like all they wear which is something obviously like I said that I did um. Same with like different types of types of pants. You know, short short stuff like that. But the stringers also are going to depend on whatever company, you're buying them from so for me Jed North fits properly. Um, it's it's a little bit more elastic. There's a little more ah spandex in it where a lot of guys like Jim Shark which is a little bit more cotton. Believe it's more cotton more like feels like a regular shirt in a sense so it all just depends on whatever route you want to take so for me I like gedn northth but not everybody fits well with jeednorth it doesn't fit their physique well but for me, it fits well for me so stringers is also anotherll lebral game you have to kind of take a look at.

43:23.98

christophknoll

Amazon essentials save on that money the up I say it jokingly. But in reality I basically only buy from Amazon so it is what it is um, but yeah I ah.

43:24.90

Paul Garny

Yeah, the Chinese made stuff. Hey.

43:34.75

Paul Garny

Yeah, yeah.

43:40.72

christophknoll

Let's see I think we've we've covered to upper body pretty well though I mean that's as more or less like everything you could possibly wear I Guess if you find a gym that lets you do shortlist stuff too. That's that's pretty big if you're a guy because like like we talked about chest shoulders. Ah.

43:42.25

Paul Garny

Pass for sure.

43:58.48

christophknoll

I Love doing it for ab work too because if like visible abs. Um I'm like I'm kind of having to say goodbye to because of you know I'm actually seeing progression in my bulk which I haven't seen before so it's it's sad, but the same time like cool I get to have you know more more size now. But.

44:01.37

Paul Garny

Earth.

44:14.97

Paul Garny

Yeah.

44:17.24

christophknoll

If I wasn't on that grind. You'll see your ab protrusion more than and any other time if you just did like an an ab workout or something like that. So if you're shirtless and being able to see that or even like mid like Mid Rep whatever you're doing being able to see it like ah. For me I love doing shirtless leg raises because the lower abs are always tough ones not just only to train but to see like when you're doing a flex of some kind so just being able to see that midset is pretty cool. Plus you know that trains you to angle down and you know.

44:42.60

Paul Garny

Are.

44:53.48

christophknoll

Tighten up your core while you're doing the the actual exercise but that's a separate conversation. Um.

44:57.96

Paul Garny

Yeah, you got to be um, you got to be careful with shirtless because there's a lot of gyms that like I don't know how empire is but most jit um like ninety five first percent of gyms require you to at least wear a shirt. Um, you know occasionally. You'll see guys like take off shirt for a photo and something and put it right back on I don't think that gyms will really care if you do it that quick, especially when it's more slow and there's not many people in the gym but you got to be careful with what you're wearing um make sure that you're following the guidelines because it's obviously embarrassing if somebody comes up to you and says you know you got to wear a shirt or something. Um. But like you got to also take into account. You know how you're going to be perceived in society in general like for someone like ah liver King which I really want to talk about at some point. Um you know he's never wearing a shirt and that's just kind of like part of his whole brand.

45:42.24

christophknoll

Cup Neil.

45:50.91

Paul Garny

Um, so don't be that guy don't be that guy That's never wearing a shirt but oh dude I Want to talk about that So bad because it's like you know if you're going to take pds either. Don't talk about it or just be transparent. You know, just talk say hey look this is this is the reality.

45:52.78

christophknoll

Also don't don't lie about P E D usage but supper conversation.

46:10.81

Paul Garny

But like I get why he lied because from a business standpoint if he never talked about it. People would just obviously know you'd be like all right clearly he is because he's not addressing it if he said he is then his brand wouldn't sell that well because people are saying that a lot of us the drugs. But if he said he. Was it and he was natural. He would make the most money off of that because he's saying that my brand is the reason I'm here not because of the Drug. So I Get why he did but it's still a shitty thing to do So. It's good to see him called out and he's like and then it made it even Worse. So and he came out and was like yo I Totally I took like. I take a lot T R T and like does just about it. But in the past I Tookck GH and winstraw and all of this but my liver didn't agree with this So I stopped taking it after a couple weeks and it took me a long time to get back to normal and it's like yeah and it's like like not to mention that like.

46:58.94

christophknoll

Which is which is hilarious because he's the liver king.

47:09.14

Paul Garny

Deliver king ideas behind like eating liver. Not just like liver health but it's which I mean eating animal organs is very good for you is very nutrient based but um, like that's that's the whole problem like that was the other problem too is that he wasn't addressing it at first he should have addressed it the second Derek's video came out about it. Um, which is more plates more dates and more plays more days is also on a new Joe Broken Podcast which I can't wait to listen to because I'm so hy for that. But um, like he should address it right away and should have been like look this is what I was taking you know and you know I'm on Xy and z now or just on ti your t now or something I was stupid. Didn't really get me where I wanted it to go. It was just only hurting me but he didn't address it. You know he he waited too long. He wasn't addressing it and then he came out with a half -assed video that was 15 seconds long of him being look. This is what I wasn't or I was on that for a little bit. It's just such a bad way of doing things. And I just love that he was put on blast because clearly he was on ship but people were trying to believe that it was like the 9 in show so tenants and you're going to take his supplements and all that to look like him and dude's got abin plants for fuck's sake like it's yeah, he's not a good role model. So don't be like that guy. we' no short everywhere.

48:19.20

christophknoll

Tune in next week where Paul roasts liver king for two straight hours.

48:24.57

Paul Garny

Yeah I could literally just like I could probably bang out like an entire 2 hour session just by myself just talk about Liver King and the whole controversy behind what he was taking and why you shouldn't be taking that and um to speculate who he was reaching out to as a coach and stuff like that. So. Um I think it's pretty I think it's pretty wild pretty well at conversation but to branch into you know, obviously more pants like that's really the the biggest area that's not going to that's going to affect you the least? Um, you know obviously't most gyms don't really allow you to wear Denim. Just because it kind of wears on the equipment a little bit more um by at the end of the day it does look goofy in a sense but at the end of the day I mean if you're wearing jeans or something to the gym I just assume that you just were on a time crunch and you just showed up.

49:01.80

christophknoll

Post that looks goofy.

49:15.95

Paul Garny

On the way to something else or something like that you know I used to wear jeans a lot to the gym because um, you know I was working so much and had such little amount of time between school and work that like swapping clothes just was too much time for me. Um. You know? So. My main focus was just getting to the gym lifting and getting home. So I was wearing jeans a lot to the gym for that reason. Ah, but I could understand why Jims say no to denim. But then you got I think that for a lot of guys. It's going to be either sweatpantts you got like regulars like seven or nine Inch inseam shorts I wear five inch inem shorts to for a leg day or maybe seven inch sometimes depending on the shorts but pants is really not really where it's not going to matter the most um because most guys especially calves is is not going to It's not going to show. Like especially if we're in shorts like regular nine inch or 7 in shorts is you're not going to be like highlighting any specific Monosol besides calves. Um, so shorts is going to play the least amount of role and. Whatever you're hitting especially like hams and glutees if you're hitting a ham and glute day like yeah, good luck see in that like just's no really point of wearing specific clothing for those mo groups because you can't see it. It's behind you. So um, not that big of a deal just whatever matches whatever you're wearing and compliments ideally whatever you're hitting or your look overall and I think you're good to go.

50:40.45

Paul Garny

And that department.

50:42.59

christophknoll

Yeah, and I think wearing you know, very high wasisted not high waisted. Ah yes, Steve verrkel um wearing high very high inse shorts during leg day is socially acceptable to I don't I wouldn't. Wear them. You know for every single muscle that I'm hitting but wearing them for legs is big, not for like not just the you know social atmosphere part of it but like for your own progression because for me when I do like leg extensions by the way which.

51:00.25

Paul Garny

Um, great.

51:18.90

christophknoll

Spam leg extensions if you want to see Quad definition. But um, yeah, um, so excuse me Um, when I do my leg extensions and I wear my very high inseam shorts I actually roll them up even more.

51:19.55

Paul Garny

Yeah, Quads is like extension the hack squat but go ahead.

51:36.40

christophknoll

Just so I could see every single one of my muscles or like within my quad move while I do that particular exercise. Um, and that's you know, links to that mind muscle connection that we've talked about in the past like in order to yeah just in order to build it. You have to see it and seeing it move.

51:42.78

Paul Garny

Ah.

51:47.47

Paul Garny

Seeing it with.

51:55.62

christophknoll

Can be really really cool like especially on leg extensions because you can take low weight and really excuse me see it like progress through and through like at the top of the set at the bottom of the set. What does a full flex look like versus just dormant and standard like there's so much you can. Mess around with when it comes to wearing high inse shorts like that. Um, and then of course in in the bodybuiling side of things you wear like high inseam shorts and then pull them up almost to speedo length so you can get. Ah, full pump picture like I see ah ah Noel Diesel do that all the time on his pictures like he pulls him up all the way so you see a full leg flex when he does a leg day and I think that's you know, a totally okay reason why you should be wearing shorts like that because.

52:37.82

Paul Garny

Are.

52:52.22

christophknoll

Think about your basketball shorts situation. You can't really pull those up and get away with some kind of picture. There's just too much fabric there like it. It doesn't work. But if you have already high insem shorts. It's pretty easy to pull them up and do a pump pick like that. So I think it's definitely beneficial to wear those but I tend to wear. It's actually funny how I started I wore shorts when I first got in and just like you They were basketball shorts because that's just what I Owned. Um and then I got slim fitting like tight joggers like that you've mentioned as well and at the time I thought they made my figure look great because you know it.

53:16.68

Paul Garny

Um, yeah.

53:31.69

christophknoll

Anything compression I really like but then as I got deeper and deeper into the gym game and you know looked at myself more in the mirror I actually felt like showing off how thin I can be actually pulls me down mentally. So I.

53:47.30

Paul Garny

Are.

53:49.67

christophknoll

More or less just stopped wearing my slim-fitting joggers I'll wear them around the apartment but that's because I'm not going anywhere but um, it's it's certainly an interesting you know progression and I'm sure everybody who's listening has had something where you wear excuse me, you wear one day and then. a year maybe a month or so later it just isn't the vibe anymore. Um, yeah.

54:09.71

Paul Garny

Yeah, you kind of go backwards a little bit and because you you learn a bit more and you kind of learn where your're at or your stinning is and that's like that's part of the the jogger thing for me too like at first I was wearing you know, kind of like. Well I start obviously a lot of genes at 1 point but getting into joggers I but didn't get into them until I at least had enough like growth to like kind of fill out the joggers for the most part um, especially having like ah you know the the wider the wider leg will look with the quad sweep. You know a quad sweep is going to play a lot of role in how wide your legs look and how big your legs look when you're wearing tight to clothing white joggers. So that's when I really started wearing joggggers was at that point. Um, so I can definitely see like if I didn't have the leg muscles I do I wouldn't be wearing joggers for that particular reason. Um, but when I look at myself in photos I like wearing joggers because it gives that you know the the inward look you know with my waist going inward with my lats being outward and then my legs being outward. You know I don't really know what shape to call that I wouldn't really say hourglass because you don't want to have an hourglass as a guy obviously. But.

55:24.00

christophknoll

I Want the dumpy.

55:24.79

Paul Garny

You know that that look where you're yeah basically you also you kind of need a little bit of dumpy too to pull it pull it off. But um, yeah, that's going to be your biggest. Your biggest thing right there and then obviously your I always I want to say ad doctors want to say add doctors I freaking hate it I always get them mixed up. Your adductor should be um, also relatively decent for the most part for that reason. Um, it brings in your your your legs closer so you can spread them out further make them look even bigger. So that's something to take into account too. But yeah, you're you're looking at like your quad sweep is going to be. Um, your your lateralis your vass lateralis and then you got your tear drop which is your vassest mediais for me. My teardrop is not very good. So um, it doesn't really show that will even though I am working on it constantly. But that's another thing to kind of purchase for and. Was my problem when I was buying my like suit for the wedding is that I had to buy it based off of my thighs because when I when I buy pants I could buy like the right waist size like let's say like a 30 or 32 like recently I bought new pants. Um, and if you buy for me if I buy according to my waist size. They almost never fit. Because they don't fit my thighs so I have to buy like at least 1 size bigger to fit my thighs and then like they're either loose or on my waist or I have to wear a belt typically so that's that's a problem that you have when you're you're buying clothing. Um, when your muscles being eyes.

56:53.96

christophknoll

Well, that's that's why we did those resistant curls for you when before the wedding fill out the top part because we had to get the bottom fitting.

57:04.11

Paul Garny

Yeah, exactly yeah wanted to to fill it all out. But um, and then you have to buy according to your lats for like the suit like the suit suits are such a bitch to buy now because like they gotta fit my doubt So if I like. Put on a jacket. My doubts are going to shorten the sleeve so you have to have longer sleeves for that reason and when you raise your arms you have to make sure that your doubts don't pull too much up on it or else you're going to.. It's such a bitch and then you have to buy like according to your lats because it's not about standingning up straight as the problem. It's like bending Over. Or like sitting down that your lads kind of extend a bit and that's going to stretch out the jacket or shirt you're wearing and that's also kind of a bitch and that's just that's just part of what you're going for. That's part of having a bit more muscle mass and it's just something you got to work with and it's a pain because you'd constantly change clothes and pants are. Just as annoying as upper body is to purchase for so you got to work with it.

58:03.99

christophknoll

I Actually have a really funny story when it comes to suits. Um I Love wearing suits because I just am at my most confident like and feel my most like self when I'm wearing a button down and some kind of a suit and ah so I own a couple like you know, high end suits that I love Wearing. And 1 of them is my suit I've owned for oh boy guys several years now and I got you know when I buy a suit I get it tailored like fitted like everything down to the T So it's a perfect fit suit and ah I had all the work done for this one particular suit and i.

58:26.91

Paul Garny

In it.

58:33.59

Paul Garny

Yeah, yeah.

58:41.20

christophknoll

I Tried to put it on the other day and one I immediately tore the pants like suit pants just through the through the ass just tore and I was like okay so that didn't work and then I put on the jacket and the way I'm just naturally like I'm leaving my apartment I'll get dressed and then I put my shoes on.

58:48.68

Paul Garny

Um, ah now.

59:00.69

christophknoll

And so I had of all my stuff on I'm about to leave for the day and I'm trying to tie my shoes and because of how my shoulders are pressed up. It doesn't allow me to it I literally could not tie my shoes because this as you know suits are like. There's one way. It's not like a t-shirt or something like that where it'll you know mold with you like the suit is set in one way. Yeah, unless you get I keep getting the ads for the ah the um, it's like the ad is this dude doing backlips in a suit or something or something like that. But um.

59:20.51

Paul Garny

Did they not stretch either. Yeah.

59:32.18

Paul Garny

Was it like it with like latex in it or something. Oh interesting. Yeah, if it's mostly like Latex or spandex or something like oh not latex mostly spandex then it's going to look is also going to look.

59:36.43

christophknoll

Yeah, it's it's for like 10 percent cotton and it's just like you're wearing a piece of plastic at that point.

59:48.70

Paul Garny

Weird probably too. It's gonna look shiny but go ahead.

59:51.10

christophknoll

Yeah, exactly? Um, but just it's it's just funny that like suits if you fundamentally believe in the gym. So this this is a big thing right here if you fundamentally believe in the gym you will be able to attain your gains. But if you. Only focus on the day-to-day you won't be able to achieve any goal that you want because that's too small of a timeframe. So for me honestly using the suit as a you know belief system for the gym worked wonders for me because when I put it on. And bent down to tie my shoes I mean I even tried it sitting down and I couldn't even do it sitting down like being able to have that moment just like made me smile because this was a perfect fitting suit. Not even two years ago and now it's at the point where excuse me. Um, now it's at the point where I fully cannot like.

01:00:31.44

Paul Garny

Are.

01:00:42.99

christophknoll

Do Mobility down to my feet and I'm not a very flexible Dude. So like just being able to do that from a seated position is pretty big for me and so not being able to do that was such like a boost for like my belief system in the gym because you just don't see the results day to day. But when you start to outgrow. Certain pieces of clothing are fit into things that you never thought you'd fit into that's pretty big like I actually have a bundle of clothes that I got from a former coach of mine who you know had all this gear like really top end gear from when he played and.

01:01:04.41

Paul Garny

Phone.

01:01:20.41

christophknoll

It's all 3 x because this was a big big dude and I just every day I'm like all right one day I'm going to fit in that and it's it's a really good goal to have so using clothing as more than just clothing is kind of the point that I want everyone to take away from this because if you're able to.

01:01:25.71

Paul Garny

And.

01:01:39.41

christophknoll

Use clothing as your motivator rather than just an article that you're wearing like that becomes a huge part of it.

01:01:47.85

Paul Garny

Yeah I mean when I before I moved down to North Carolina um I so I am

01:02:01.99

Paul Garny

I sorry about that. Um, so when I move down here before I move down here I had to buy a few suits. Um and when I bought them I bought them from this private label company that basically um, purchased they made suits for brucks brothers. Ah, so it wasn't it wasn't Brooks Brothers suits themselves but it was the company that made them for Brooks Brothers so is essentially like um you know Brooks Brothers buys it from them and then relabels it. So um, it was that that company so that you could buy it kind of like in bulk in a sense like warehouse pricing at this store that I went to. Um, because that's where they actually make the moment to the actual factory itself. So when I bought those suits I had the um measurements done for when I was moving down here so I had to move to Colorado and then down here so I was wearing I was running the suits in Colorado but then when I moved down here. Um, they. I didn't wear him for a while because I was working from home I was working digitally and then ah you know obviously that took a while to to kind of get worked out and then a couple years after I bought them and haven't worn them for like at least a year and a half I put them on and they didn't fit at all the shirts kind of fit. But.

01:03:07.95

christophknoll

First.

01:03:12.94

Paul Garny

Sleeves didn't fit There's no way in hell I could have made it work I mean I could have maybe potentially brought it to a tailor and they maybe could have fixed it. But even then that's a bit stretching it. Um the I'd even try I don't think I don't think I tried on the pants. It definitely would' have been too short because that's the other problem too in you're buying pants when you have bigger thighs and butt and stuff like that is that it's got to pull the pants up naturally so you like you got to buy a longer length like recently I bought 32 for length and I've always been 30 ah so was my first time you were buying thirty two s but.

01:03:43.21

christophknoll

Hype hyped.

01:03:44.11

Paul Garny

Whats ah yeah for real. It's like I got taller but not really, it's just my pant length my Nc or my um yeah, my pant length Nc needs to be longer. But um, yeah, so I just didn't fit anymore and there were custommade suits to my measurements like to every single measurement.

01:04:00.48

christophknoll

Yep.

01:04:01.37

Paul Garny

I did have to get them tailored just kind of fit them a little bit better. But um, they're all customade and it's really expensive but they don't fit Anymore. So I mean I should sell them now. But that's the other problem. It's just your when you're buying self ah needs to be altered. It's is never going to fit for a long period of time. That's why I rent. Like I rented the suit for our wedding because I know that at some point that's that's who's never going to fit again. So Why purchase a suit when I know it's not going to fit later on.

01:04:29.15

christophknoll

See That's the beauty of having a younger brother who's similar frame as me, but ah, it's He's not you know as built as me. So anytime I outgrow something like this send it down to him. So.

01:04:42.14

Paul Garny

Yeah, naked. Perfect yeah.

01:04:45.15

christophknoll

It it works out that way. Um, big thing that we haven't talked about yet ah inside the gym and apparently shoes shoes is a big one because when you first get into the gym I am I don't think this is under 100% this has to be a hundred percent

01:04:52.17

Paul Garny

She they were to be 1

01:05:04.27

christophknoll

Your very first day in the gym you wear whatever you got, you are not buying a special pair of shoes just to go to the gym when you first get into it. So I think it's really interesting to kind of see like who is new to the gym just from that aspect like hey you're wearing like.

01:05:05.57

Paul Garny

Pretty much.

01:05:22.59

christophknoll

The mowing the lawn ones like I know that you're coming from just yard work and you're coming to the gym.

01:05:22.86

Paul Garny

Are.

01:05:28.30

Paul Garny

Yeah, when the the dad sketchers the dad grilling at home sketchers. Yeah yeah, exactly yeah.

01:05:35.42

christophknoll

Yep, the all whites Oh baby I've seen I see those in the gym and so I know but um, at some point you progress to and let me know if this was different for you. But at some point you progress to the flat bottom shoes.

01:05:49.30

Paul Garny

I mean I started there with vans. So I was relatively start with flat shoes or started with flash shoes.

01:05:51.19

christophknoll

Um, yeah, yeah, and what I mean by flat is that it doesn't have the natural arc that a athletic shoe will have where you know if you think of just any regular athletic shoe. There's a arc from.

01:06:04.69

Paul Garny

Um, and.

01:06:10.49

christophknoll

The the middle of your foot because it naturally allows you to roll and move that way. So athletic shoes are basically tiered to you walking or running or jogging or something like that whereas flat. Bottom shoes are meant to give you a very firm base for whatever movement or exercise that you're doing um. Which becomes huge once you get into you know the 3 core movements. So Not really so much chess like ah bench press but um for squats and deadlifts like. Having flap. Bottom shoes is huge when it comes to that because it just gives you that Baseline of stability that you really really need.

01:06:49.35

Paul Garny

Yeah, and you you should never be especially like they lived in in Squas, you should never be wearing like running shoes, athletic shoes. Um, they're not going to give you like you said the stability that you need and you know there is there is I remember I still remember this to this day. There's a there is a day that Terry Cruise posted a video of him deadlifting I don't know if it's like yeah funny it feels like ah 4 plates or something and he was wearing running shoes and everybody criticized that because you should not be wearing running shoes because you never like they provide ankle support for running but they're not going to provide like knee support or.

01:07:06.70

christophknoll

Who who? ah.

01:07:23.51

christophknoll

Ah.

01:07:23.65

Paul Garny

Straight stability support for your ankle and your feet when you're deadlifting straight up and down stay with your squats. So. That's why it's important to wear those flat-footed shoes and if you don't have them like if all you have is running shoes then when you're deadlifting or squatting probably just take off your shoes I mean a lot of gyms say oh you don't take off your shoes but it's like. If. That's all, you're taking them off for then you put it right back on when you're done and people aren't really going to care too much. Um, as long as you're not sticking up the gym with your feet. Um, but for me I'm either depending on the day I'm either wearing vans. Especially if I'm to an upper body that where it really doesn't matter. Um I'm wearing vans. Just because that's what I have mostly of but what I'm doing legs or if I know I'm going to be doing deadlifts I'll wear rid or wearar. So I bought bunch of rid or wear or not a bunch 2 pairs of riderwa shoes that I wear um and those are phenomenal I love those they're they're similar to autoic so if you buy automi or ride orware. They're very very similar issues.

01:08:08.90

christophknoll

Leaning.

01:08:20.12

Paul Garny

Um, you they they lacce up pretty high. They they give you a good ankle stability. They're also very um, they're very very light. They're extremely light so you never you don't really feel them on your feet when you're walking and then also the way they're built. They're theirre bodybuiling shoes entirely. They aren't powerless things shoes or anything. They're specifically made for bodybuilders. So um, the sole is going to be very Flat. You're going to get a really good ground feel when you're when you're lifting the grip The actual sole of the shoe is pretty consistent throughout the entire thing So You're not going to have like um like a thick part of sole or a thin part. It's pretty much the same thing you don't even see the soul from the side. So um. You know that's another thing that take take into account with that and when they send it to you The actual insole that goes into it. Um, it's like basically just a flat place of cloth with a tiny flat bit of foam for your heel. So It's like I can't quite explain it until you experience it. I bought them because they were like half off on sale and I was like sure why not they look cool and I've always wanted a pair like this either right away or automat I wasn't particular so I bought the rider wears because they're on sale and it's like you can't go back once you have those for like squats or something. It's like it's game changing. Ah you just you feel every single bit of the floor you feel.

01:09:28.00

christophknoll

First fifth.

01:09:36.27

Paul Garny

You know way more stable. Um, and when you're squatting or doing dead loads and stuff you need to be gripping with your toes. You need to be gripping with your heel like that's stuff that people don't talk about um and you can actually truly do that with those shoes where like vans or something all you're doing is digging into the sole. You're not really actually like. Gripping anything even though like yeah, you're not in theory gripping anything at all at any point with your toes. But when you can curl your toes and provide more stability for your upper body. That's what you're going to need. That's why like so many dead lifters and power lifters and all of that they lift with no shoes on because they can like grip the floor with their feet in a sense. And plant much better. So That's what these shoes are designed for So I Love them I'll always preach riderware um and their customer service is pretty good too. So Um I always preach them and they have sales going on all the time but it is It is a pretty big game changer when you find a good pair of shoes that's designed specifically for bodybuilding um and they also just to me they look good. When you're wearing like shorts and you're wearing those things it makes your like legs look bigger for some reason I don't know I just have associated that with big legs. So I think they look good.

01:10:41.30

christophknoll

Yeah, and for me I come from the athletic side. So I always wore basketball shoes going into the gym. Um, and my thing is that I take pride in having flashy shoes. It's what I do like I have. Even on my basketball shoes I've got like gold plate like I'm looking at 1 of my pairs right now there's a gold plate on the back of it that's metallic and shiny like I take a lot of pride in having the most outrageous flashy shoes and so when I first started looking for. Um. I didn't even really know about the flat bottom I just knew the look of the high ankle you know, mesh kind of look shoe. So I just looked up weightlifting shoes and came across and again we mentioned brands were not affiliated. We're not endorsed. We're not wrapping anything. We're just speaking truly anecdotal data. But um, but excuse me. Um I found this company called noble which um, if you are from the new england area. You know that Mac Jones is sponsored by the these guys and the yeah.

01:11:47.81

Paul Garny

It's pretty common down here too I see people noble pretty often.

01:11:52.25

christophknoll

And I just liked them too because like just the name no bull like that that in itself gives me a little bit of motivation because I'm like all right, we're not fucking around today we're we're going to like we're having a real serious lift today. Um so I found. Ah.

01:12:01.70

Paul Garny

Um, right.

01:12:09.57

christophknoll

And if you watch any of empire's social media page. You always I don't know how but I always wind up in the background of all these videos cause you can just see my shoes but I wear neon pink lifting shoes. Um, but the very first thing that I noticed was from my deadlifts. When I switched to wearing those and I was still at pf when I was wearing them saw I was deadlifting on a Smith which in itself is not a good combo because you take away your own personal stability and the kind of backwards motion. You can use to try and get a little bit of the last oomph on your deadlift. But um when I was. Deadlifting I had so much more we talked about stability because yeah I will live and die by conventional deadlifts I think sumo lifting is for pussies. Um I I personally just don't like it. Um, so I conventional deadlift everything I also don't cross grip. It.

01:13:00.52

Paul Garny

You have.

01:13:07.59

christophknoll

But that's you know, separate conversation. But um I deadlift and immediately was able to bump up my weight just because and this also happened when I bought wrist wraps um to latch onto the bar. Of course. That's again, another separate conversation. But um. All of that it wasn't like I added £100 to my deadlift just from shoes. But I could feel myself a lot more comfortable moving the weight that I had been. You know one or 2 repping. Um, so it's a lot better to have that base of stability I've never done this that.

01:13:37.42

Paul Garny

Um, for her.

01:13:44.10

christophknoll

No shoes thing I do see it all the time at empire. So I'm curious and I probably will try it one of these times. Um, but having some kind of a flat bottom is gonna make your life a lot easier and I even notice it when I'm doing arms which is kind of weird but when I do like.

01:13:50.30

Paul Garny

Ah.

01:14:03.19

christophknoll

My very first arm movement that I do every single time for an arm workout is a standing hammer curl and um, when I do ah arms my first and second set excuse me Jesus Christ my first and second set will generally be very isolated on the muscle. It's focused on. Taking it slow and and taking plenty of time under tension. But by the third set I'm probably swinging a little bit. Um and I preach that it's okay to swing a little bit when you're doing arms. But when I'm swinging and what I mean by swinging is that. When my arms at their furthest point underneath and I'm kind of using my upper body to kind of unfit up to the top a little bit and I'm able to create that swing motion a little bit easier with flat bottom because I just have this huge baseline of of stability. Um. It's a nothing major like you're not going to be able to go from 30 s to 50 s on your ah your bicep girls just by wearing flat bottom shoes. Don't don't think this is where this this topic is going but you definitely have a much more secure baseline um.

01:15:07.90

Paul Garny

Yeah.

01:15:15.12

christophknoll

And I even get to the point where I put on my flat bottom shoes and I don't take them off when I do cardio. So I do my you know mile two mile in flat bottom shoes which probably isn't the best thing in the world but I just have become so hooked on them that I just never take them off.

01:15:30.92

Paul Garny

I mean that's what I wear when I'm doing cardio and treadmill I just wear like vans or my ride-a wears or something. They're just comfortable to walk in I mean it's not like like if I was going for a long walk that or like a hike obviously wouldn't wear or something like that. But. Um, you know, walking for a half hour and a slight incline on the treadmill is not that big a deal for me at least um, but they are a big deal as far as like changing up how you lift and how you feel when you lift. Um, obviously it's not going to change everything they're just going to help you know they're not.

01:15:50.78

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:16:03.18

Paul Garny

Ah, supplement for something else. You shouldn't be putting them on thinking that you're going to get bigger or get stronger. Um, you know it's going to change how you lift and how you feel it so you you might like you said like you're going to feel a little more stable in it. So you're going to push yourself with a little bit more weight because you feel better with them on. Um, but the same thing kind of goes for like no shoes like when you're deadlifting or doing a hack squat or whatever it is with no shoes like you have like this better feel for the actual platform or for the floor when you're wearing no shoes um than you do with pretty much any shoes I mean you know bodybuilding shoes can provide. A bit more ankle stability. So I do recommend that. But ah, you know half the time I mean I'm like my shoes that I'm wearing are most likely unlaced of some sort if if they're vans they're they're tied but I slide them on. You know they're they just stay tied. But my right or wear is I almost always wear to the gym unlaced and only lace them when I feel like I need them? Um, but then like I think times to get more pickggy with with movements like that especially squats and deadlifts is the accessories that assist you with lifting it. Ah, for stability like Knee sleeves and knee wraps or like um, ah lifting straps as well lifting straps play a big role personally I don't use elbow sleeves of any sort for bench. Um I've never had a problem with my elbows but um, and then I used to wear wrist wrapps for bench.

01:17:28.65

Paul Garny

But that wasn't like that big of it for me I only war it because I had a problem I have ah basically like a permanently broken thumb from a motorcycle accident. So I was brain it for that reason. But then like once I build up my tolerance and like learned how to like perfect like properly move with my thumb. And move you know weight on the bench then I kind of stopped using it and didn't really matter to me anymore. Um, but wrist or like lifting straps I think play a big role, especially for me because I like I only use them when I need them. You should be working on your grip like. As a secondary thing to whatever you're lifting so like deadlift is a good way to work on your on your grip I don't necessarily think you need to have like a dedicated time to work on your forearms or grip in general unless that's your whole thing like Frank Mcgrath that's like his whole thing that's like his whole like brand is his forearms. So obviously he's going to work them out so that he can have that like unproportionate forearm look but typically you don't what's that yeah basically is kind of what he looks like. But um, you know if you're not frag from a graph. You don't really need to train forearms or grip as a secondary as a separate muscle group in my opinion.

01:18:28.65

christophknoll

Popeye Popeye

01:18:42.74

Paul Garny

Um, when you're doing arms. That's what you're doing. You're doing arms. So squeeze the bar as hard as you can when you're lifting squeeze it really really hard that'll help with your grip same with dead lifting.

01:18:49.33

christophknoll

Ah I was going to say I I do I do 1 or 2 forar movements but only during my arm day like it's not going out of my way because you're already naturally doing it.

01:18:58.12

Paul Garny

Yeah, so I like in that case I would just recommend just squeezing the bar harder and you're going to get even more more of a pump in your arms that way too. You're goingnna you're going to have more blood flow but I used to hit them all the time forearms and douch is because I felt like my forearms couldn to keep up with whatever is lifting but it's also just ignorance. And you know, kind of getting behind like are stopping the stigma of like wanting to lift the weight barehanded and for me, it's now it's like if I'm going to do any sort of deadlift I'm going to use wrist straps because like I want to be able to focus on the muscle group that I'm hitting not focus on my grip at all like I don't even want to have to think about it. Want to be focusing entirely on whatever I'm Lifting. So for me I've tried 10 freaking different kinds of lifting straps. Um, you know the standard lift and straps that wrap around the bar that have like the the long piece of cloth I've done that those are reliable. The only problem I have with those is that it's going to change the way you grip the bar. Because there's going to be a mound of um mound of actual like cloth in the way so that's going to change what finger your grip in the bar with and that's going to change what muscle grip you're hitting in a sense. So if you're going to be doing deadlift focusing on the middle 2 fingers you're going to be focusing on like more of your middle back. Um, yeah, yeah, if you're that's what's going to stay next like if you're lift a lot of the weight with your pinky then you're going to have like your outer lats and your grip is going to be so like off centerer like as far as like look it's going be right in the middle of your forearm. It's going to be looking weird. So.

01:20:13.35

christophknoll

No, you just have one yoked pinky and that's all it is ah.

01:20:31.15

Paul Garny

Same of your first finger if you're pulling from your first finger is going to change where the actual muscle the the actual weight goes so that's the problem that I have with those um I've tried so my favorite they're just so expensive I forget what they're called I think they're called scorpion grips I figure what they're called, but they're basically just like 1 piece of leather.

01:20:46.43

christophknoll

Um.

01:20:49.60

Paul Garny

Wrap around at once and you grab the other end. Um, so those are phenomenal, but those are expensive I've had ones that are like literally metal pieces of metal that hook the bar so you're literally not even pick anything. Yeah, so the hook ones Those aren't bad.

01:20:59.88

christophknoll

I was I was about to ask how you feel about the hook.

01:21:09.50

Paul Garny

Um, I actually like those but the problem is is because you're not gripping the bar like for me when I had those I noticed that the bar is moving more on me like I was like it was swaying more because I technically wasn't really gripping anything I might have been gripping the metal but like the bar.

01:21:26.75

christophknoll

Barely.

01:21:27.85

Paul Garny

Yeah, like I didn't even need to really grab it. You know the the wrist strap could do all of the lifting for me. So um, that was kind of it was cool but it's not something to like maintain with like it's not something you should be using constantly or forever. Um, as maybe if in the beginning you want to use something and just kind of get the form down like I think they're really good for like understanding form for deadlift because you don't have to think about the grip. That's the biggest thing is just understanding the actual movement itself. Not the grip. Um, so I think that that's cool with those but what I use most of the time is the figure 8 grips. Um, the figure 8 rip wrist straps a lot of strong men use them. Um, basically you put your hand through one hole put wrap it around the bar and then you put your hand through another hole. So it's like essentially 2 holes. It looks like a figure 8 when you're holding it upright. So. That's what I use and I really like those because it.

01:22:15.65

christophknoll

Um.

01:22:22.72

Paul Garny

It falls further down on your hand. So it's almost like it. It kind of wraps around your fingers and your knuckles rather than your wrist. So. It's not going to um yank on my thumb because my thumb's broken right? Where like where my thumb kind of meets my wrist. It's not quite like my actual thumb. It's where that joint meets. On the out on the edge of your hand so it doesn't pull from there like most other rice straps. That's why I like them so much and at the same time they're wide enough to where all of my fingers are grabbing the cloth of the actual grip or the wristtrapamine. So there's no like unbalance between each finger. It's all pretty balanced for the most part because it's a flat piece of um like cloth like I said so that's why I like those and they take 3 seconds to put on both sides and you know they can adjust them as needed where the ones that wrap around it a few times it kind of takes like. 20 seconds to do it, especially if you're listening to music and you want to you want to lift right? off the drop of the music or something like it's still hard to time that with those kinds of wrist straps. So for me my lifting straps just take 3 seconds and then I'll get ready for the lift and then do it so that's what I like at least.

01:23:16.31

christophknoll

First thought.

01:23:29.40

christophknoll

Yeah I use straight up lifting straps for my deadlifts. Um and I just find that even though I am excuse me gripping a decent amount of cloth. Um I Just like that I don't have to worry about losing my grip. When I'm moving weight because my right now my deadlift weight out matches my grip strength Weight. So I Just don't like having to worry about that when I'm going for a Pr um and from like like you talked about focusing on form like I'm able to really.

01:23:55.20

Paul Garny

Over.

01:24:03.40

christophknoll

Like in my mind focus on my my back arc making sure that my legs are loaded and driving like I'm able to spend a lot more mental so like strain on the other things rather than all right I have to focus entirely on just keeping my hands on this bar because it's going to slip out on me. Um.

01:24:17.84

Paul Garny

Are.

01:24:21.27

christophknoll

I Think that also brings in I'm not sure if we're going to call this an accessory or anything like that but being able to use chalk. That's huge huge I I never had it at planet because with their whole judgment thing. You're not allowed to use chalk of any kind because.

01:24:29.90

Paul Garny

Um, yeah, that's that's a tough conversation. Go ahead.

01:24:40.45

christophknoll

You know there are a bunch of pussies. But ah I use. Ah I use chalk all the time at empire for my various movements. Um, just because it's 1 more thing that helps me build my my grip and also chalk in particular I feel helpfully build my callouses a lot more too.

01:24:40.52

Paul Garny

My.

01:25:00.50

christophknoll

Because it gives me it gives me a lot of grip in terms of being able to grab the bar so without noticing I'm you know stressing my hands more to like grabbing onto this bar since I'm not spending the time thinking about it and because of that I in turn build much bigger calouses like I mean.

01:25:00.82

Paul Garny

Yep, how does you she mean.

01:25:12.22

Paul Garny

Are her.

01:25:19.88

christophknoll

I do have a split between my left and right hand but that also comes from basketball. But i' just looking at my hands now I can visibly see Cal 2 calouss maybe 3 calouss a finger, a bunch of them in my Palms and it's I just get that from using like Icc credit my calouses almost solely to chalk. Because you're able to again spend less time thinking about cripping the bar but also when you chalk your hands and like do a clap or rub them before you grab onto the bar. You can see your calouses because it like it exaggerates your callouses emphasizes them. Um, and that I think is also a cool little bit of using it. So. I Don't know if we consider this an accessory but it's certainly something that if you've never tried it. You gotta to try it at least once.

01:26:05.46

Paul Garny

Here's here's my thing about chalk chalk is helpful but the gyms that provide it for you almost never actually need it What I mean by that is a lot of the gymms that don't allow you to use chalk usually have less aggressive bars for the Grip. So. The actual ah grip of the barbells and dumbbells and all of that you can purchase specific Grips. There's you know like Rogue has different types of grips. Um that you can get on the bars. Obviously the worst one that anybody knows about or like as far as harshness is is called um the everest grip or ah Mountain Grip. From I think Rogue it just tears your hands apart. But yeah, it's it's rough. It's rough like you're you're going to probably bleed when you deadlift. But um so a lot of the gyms that provide the chalk for you or have like a bowl for it usually have more aggressive bars.

01:26:42.59

christophknoll

I think I can think of it.

01:27:00.30

Paul Garny

As far as the grip goes but the gyms that don't allow you to have it. The grip isn't really that good at all. It's very smooth where you actually might actually need the grip the chalk which is which is funny to think about like the goals I go to doesn't allow you to have chalk but their bars are so fucking mellow with the grip with the grip. That you kind of need like sometimes especially if you're doing really heavy deadlifts you're going to need a little bit of chalk. Um because they're so non-aggressive. Um, but then like you're kind of approaching like most people who use chalk I would say good majority are focusing on Prs like power liftfters. And a lot of powerlifting gyms allow you to bring your own bar and your own chalk and all of that. So um, you know that's obviously something that else I've take into account but a lot of the gyms that don't allow it need it but a lot of the gyms that like have it don't need it which is weird to see. Um, when I was going to elite fit is they provided chalk to you but their bars are relatively aggressive and I almost never needed. It. So as something to um, you know consider when you're lifting the bar is do you really need the chalk depending on how aggressive the bars are so It's an interesting conversation to talk about jock because it just makes the gyms need to clean it up if they don't so like if you don't have the infrastructure for it. They're going to have to clean it up and take a second to like actually go clean up your chalk but like it's going to help your lift and.

01:28:29.31

Paul Garny

It's just it's such a weird gray area Chalk is such a gray area for lifting and gyms and all of that.

01:28:35.87

christophknoll

That's why planet is even more messed because planet fitness you only have smith machines generally you only have 2 to 3 of them sometimes 4 depending on the size of them. Um, which means your entire gym population is going through those 2 3 4 smith machines for both their benches and they're dead.

01:28:39.47

Paul Garny

River.

01:28:53.52

christophknoll

Then there are deadlifts um, which and this is I would always complain about why I couldn't have cha planet because that bar it's It's not that only that it becomes smooth but it actually wears out and you can see visibly where it's wearing out.

01:28:53.67

Paul Garny

Um, yeah.

01:29:09.00

Paul Garny

Um, yeah.

01:29:09.73

christophknoll

And the ad is the most infuriating thing ever because you're trying to lift like For example I I only think I did maybe 1 or two prs at pf and they're not even real Prs because you know it's a smith but still um, only did 1 or 2 prs and. During that time I just sat there wishing to myself like I wish I could somehow chalk up this bar or my hands or something because it it just needs it and whereas an empire where I am now I can I mean I think they have more deadlift you know bar of rack things than I have fingers on my hand.

01:29:43.67

Paul Garny

Platforms. Yeah deadlift platforms. Yeah.

01:29:45.80

christophknoll

Yeah, especially since they've opened up gym to like they have so many and because of that you're not having the same kind of wear and tear and you don't necessarily need the chalk as much so I agree with you on that I Just think that personally it helps me um I think though.

01:29:56.98

Paul Garny

The.

01:30:04.30

christophknoll

What and why it's absolutely ridiculous I've seen it too I don't understand it by any means but people chalk their hands on a squat and we're not talking front squat either Backsquat like I've seen I think it's ridiculous because 1 you're probably going to you know, chalk up your own clothing which.

01:30:15.60

Paul Garny

See I ah.

01:30:23.97

christophknoll

Is a bitch to get out laundry wise. Um, but you you don't need it like I don't know maybe maybe it's just how I'm viewing it but you don't need it when you squat.

01:30:35.37

Paul Garny

Maybe not on your hands but the 1 place that a lot of people put chalk is their upper back for squats and that's because it's easier for the bar to stay on your back when it has that chalk resistance. So that's what you'll see a lot. Um. When they're when they're going for a squat pr is having it on their upper back or wherever they place the bar so people will slap chalk on top of their back or top of their shirt or whatever it is um and the same thing goes for. You know if you're in front squats. They'll put it on their shoulders in their upper chest and then you also see it dead liftfting as well in powerlifting sometimes. Not all the time but sometimes they'll put it like um, along their legs. Um, as far as the reason I have no idea I've just seen it done and I'm like okay if that's what you want to do? Maybe it's so that they can kind of like um, suing the bar up because they have a lot of people who do pr as they'll have that like kind of suing motion. Um, you know to get the to get the weight up um to their waist as far as like actually counting it as a conventional deadlift. So as far as what the chalk does I think that just kind of stabilizes the bar as you kind of suing it upwards but you'll see that from time to time people using chalk on more than just their hands. But in a squat I think more of the weight is going to be pressed against your back and your shoulders as far as it rolling backwards than your actual hands because your hands like that's why you don't really use chalk. You can use chalkan bench but like you don't necessarily need to use Chaka bench because the the weight is getting pressed into your palms.

01:32:10.34

Paul Garny

It's not pulling on your fingers. So That's how squat works like it's pulling against or pushing against your Palms which you don't really need the grip for you just press up against it but your're back I can understand that so it doesn't slip. Um, but it all just depends on. However, you squat because when you're squatting. More for quads you want it up higher when you're squatting for glutes you want it back further so you have when you're squattting for glutes you, You're going to have a higher chance of it sliding off so just depends on the usage and just depends on the reasoning at least for chalk.

01:32:42.83

christophknoll

I will say I run to the hills and hide when I see someone chalking their midsection because that they're about to do an you have you ever seen Axle Lifts from ah the when they do that.

01:32:50.12

Paul Garny

How.

01:32:54.63

christophknoll

But I don't see it ever. Ah empire. But I'm just in my head if I saw someone chalking their midsection in preparation for that I would run because those that is a terrifying lift. Um for I think it's called an axle lift. But um, essentially you're going from a deadlift almost. Ah, olympic lift stance and then popping it up to your like your belly almost then taking a big umph to your chest and then trying to do a military press with it I see it in the um, ah Eddie Hall is that isn't it. Yeah Eddie Hall um and I forget who the other guy is but they do.

01:33:20.12

Paul Garny

Yeah.

01:33:26.90

Paul Garny

I Don't think he'd.

01:33:32.37

christophknoll

These those though those are just crazy so whenever I if I ever see someone chalking their midsection. You can catch me just you know, standing back and watching because it's going to get insane.

01:33:43.74

Paul Garny

I don't know if does Eddie Hall do that I'm looking it up right now to be sure what it is. Um, yeah, you're thinking of a snatch. It's called the snatch or maybe maybe not a snatch. Oh you're you're talking about it.

01:33:48.10

christophknoll

I Feel like I saw do it but no well I know what? ah know I know what a snatch and clean is because that's the Olympic up top I'm talking about where you're and then it. A um here I get I'll send it to you I know what? I'm ah.

01:34:02.22

Paul Garny

Maybe you're talking about. Are you talking about a jerk at all. Okay, because the jerk is kind of like I mean you have you typically start I mean you do like a cleaning jerk. So typically you get it like you start from the floor. Get it up to your upper chest.

01:34:08.32

christophknoll

No, um.

01:34:22.14

Paul Garny

And then from there you press it up essentially but typically what they do is they kind of swing it up with little momentum and then they like do like a lunge underneath it and then lift it up from there. But.

01:34:32.38

christophknoll

Here I Just said it to. It's not the ah it's not the guy that that I was talking about, but it's just an example of it. Um, it's it's an axle because it's the axe of a car like that. That's why where it gets its name from him.

01:34:36.60

Paul Garny

Yeah, let me see all all all okay gotcha. Yeah yeah, so it's an actual clean ipress. Yeah, so it's a cleaning press. That's what it is I see now.

01:34:48.37

christophknoll

So yeah, but do you see on that video how he's chalking his midsection.

01:34:54.10

Paul Garny

Yeah, he has his chest and his belly chalked so that the bar wouldn't slip.

01:34:56.69

christophknoll

And yeah, if I ever see that I'm I'm immediately giving you every woman in the gym like youre you're You're a big dude. No no small dude is going to do that.

01:35:05.44

Paul Garny

That's a pretty wild movement. Yeah I got Olympic lifting like I get I get the mechanics behind powerlifting but like Olympic lifting is fucking wild to me because it's like especially when they have it over their head like how the hell do you not break your elbows like they got like £400 above their head. And it's like cranked on their elbows.

01:35:23.41

christophknoll

From me. Ah I think of it as almost like how the hell does your lower back survive because sometimes I see these videos. They're not wearing belts and they're doing like a clean and they they throw it up and then it's like every time someone does that they. Once they get the weight up there. They'll rearrange their feet so they're almost in a conventional stance and I'm like when you rearrange and like set yourself how does your back. Not just go real and just give out on you like that is a ton like you were saying like £400 above your head like Jesus Murphy

01:35:40.82

Paul Garny

Yeah, yeah.

01:35:52.66

Paul Garny

Yeah, that is pretty wild like I kind of understand the the ergonomics behind benching deadlifting squatting all that makes sense to me but like Olympic lifting is just like how the fuck do you not break your limbs like I Just don't understand it because when you're looking at them. Their elbows are cranked in the opposite direction of how they're supposed to be going.

01:36:03.57

christophknoll

So.

01:36:10.98

christophknoll

And.

01:36:12.52

Paul Garny

And it's like you have all the weight like I feel like at that point you just lock your joints and you got the weight up, you're just holding it there like obviously getting it up. There is impressive. But when you're locked in right there. It's like how the hell are you not breaking your elbow like all the time but that's ah like that whole in like.

01:36:25.84

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:36:30.44

Paul Garny

Lifting sos the one lifting style I truly just don't understand. Um you know I get the purpose is to get the weight above your head. That's the whole point is that you're lifting it all the way up, but how they do it is fucking wild to me. Um I mean obviously strongman is like you know. And all of it is ergoomicmally makes sense even the only one that I think is also wild too is when they do the um, the oak liftft or whatever it's called um they use is it I forget what it's called. It's like ah um, it's like a big log they use a metal. Like a metal contraption in the gym. But when they're actually competing at like the Arnold Strongman competition um you know it's like this gigantic log with ropes on the end and you lift that above your head. Um, that's pretty wild to me but the metal thing if you ever see that it's going to look like a big metal. Like long cylinder barrel with um, kind of like bars at the end to put plates on that thing is already heavy as fuck. It's probably like at least £100 that bar itself and then people are at least 100 I don't even know I'm never a weight it. But um, then they add plates to it and use. It's not like a regular bar like your your grip is neutral. It's straight up and down and you have to get it from the floor to your chest this gigantic cylinder and then press that shed above your head. Um, it's oh it's fucking wild I don't think I'll ever.

01:37:53.38

christophknoll

We we have one at empire. So we might have to try this out when you come up.

01:38:00.79

Paul Garny

Actually do the lift I just want to see how heavy they are um I've never lifted 1 because usually when they're racked up in the weight rack. It's like a bitch to get out their bitch to get out. Yeah, exactly so that's why I've never lifted it. But that's pretty wild to me sure like.

01:38:05.80

christophknoll

Oh god yeah, it's standing straight up like how you that's like a 2 person job to hug and squeeze like.

01:38:18.18

Paul Garny

Strong men competitors are pretty well because you have to be like at least Eddie Hole is like 6 3 I think it is or maybe he's six five I forget his height Eddie Hole is short for those competitors. They're usually like around six nine

01:38:29.51

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:38:31.36

Paul Garny

So you already have to be like an enormous dude just to even start doing that So I have so much respect for those guys and they like even though they don't compete in powerlifting. They're stronger than powerlifters which is fucking wild even though like they're not.

01:38:42.43

christophknoll

Oh yeah, because those are already the strongest dudes.

01:38:48.30

Paul Garny

Yeah, like they're not focusing on deadlift squat or like obviously they do do it but they're not focusing solely on bench deadlift or squat and yet they're outlifting these dudes. Um, they don't have especially bench. They don't have the world record I think that's Julius Maddox but um deadlift and squat. Definitely deadlift. They obviously have the the record half their bjornson has it now. It's like almost £1200 which is fucking absurd. But um h is wild to me that like these guys are also training like way other movements like like farmers walks and stuff like that and they're still. Crushing power lifters with weight is fucking insane to me. But that's ah, that's an industry that's beyond like reasoning because they are. They're like these guys are like drinking Coca-cola like getting ready for their their set because they needed the sugar they needed the sugar for the energy and they're smelling so smelling salt all the time and.

01:39:32.97

christophknoll

Um, ah.

01:39:39.72

christophknoll

Ah.

01:39:44.89

Paul Garny

Have those mouth guards to fucking breathe because they can't fucking breathe when they're lifting because there's so much pressure in their head. It's it's retarded like the shit behind it. It's like it's nuts I've never tried them.

01:39:50.56

christophknoll

Well on on on par with the accessories. Let's talk smelling salts like so okay so to me, it's I don't I don't own any I've I've tried it once or twice but it I Mean. It's just Snap. It's like doing a whippet almost and I know if you so yeah, um, ah, any kind of you know, respiratory and ingestion is not probably good for you. But um, it just snapshots your body like it. It makes your body go into.

01:40:12.30

Paul Garny

Never done that.

01:40:28.56

christophknoll

Like riggomortis almost like everything goes tight every month every one of your muscles flexes simultaneously when you do it because your body is just naturally reacting to a foreign substance that it you know wants to fight off and so it's almost like if ah if a bigger dude steps to your girl at the gym. You're naturally. Body just tenses up with everything. That's you know, bad comparison but I consider it to be a very similar experience where your body just goes completely like in go mode and that's why it also resets your mind. So if you ever watch videos of people taking smelling salts. They'll do it when they're sitting down like on the bench right before they do a bench they'll do it when like someone will hold it up and their hands are already gripping the the squat rag or so or squat bar or something like that because when you do it like you forget every you you could even forget your name like. Excuse me, um, it it just makes it so like it's such a blank space situation.

01:41:30.62

Paul Garny

But doesn't it I Thought the reason they did It was to open up their their pores and their their respiratory ways so that they can breathe. Okay.

01:41:38.48

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, so and that's it's it's similar to like if you ever take Tiger Bomb or like icy hot when you're sick or when you're trying to recover from a injury that opens up your sinuses. It's the similar thing. Um, because again it allows your respiratory system to funnel. Oxygen all over where it needs to but the adverse effects from it are that your body goes into rigor you you completely forget everything So you just you take it and you immediately go into your like there's no waiting Around. Um and so once or twice I've done it not not something I would do.

01:42:08.35

Paul Garny

Man.

01:42:15.85

christophknoll

Outside of a pr like if you're not doing a Pr or something heavy and you're taking and you're like smelling salt like come on men. There's there's no reason for outside of that. So um I personally would not recommend it because unless you're in that like. Power lifting and you're constantly going for you know higher and higher weight you need it then but if you're just you know lifestyle fitness and you want to hit a pr like it's not going to give you the effects that you think it will.

01:42:47.38

Paul Garny

Yeah, it's I saw um theo von do it on Joe Rogan's podcast and that shit was so funny theophon is so naturally funny, but it's funny to see people who don't I've never smelled it I just know it's super super harsh. But um. I do know that when you smell it like you. It fucks you up and it fucked up the o and he's just like like he's like people do this for fun like and he like hit it twice. He's like I want to hit that again is it's a wild sensation for a lot of people but I mean eventually I'll smell it or something. But.

01:43:08.93

christophknoll

Yep.

01:43:22.61

Paul Garny

It's it's crazy like I think they tried um Juji Mufu's brand of smelling salts I think it was and um, it's pretty wild. They they didn't like it Joe Joe brought it to him and he's they try this out and it a ziploc bag and before they even open up the ziploc bag they could already smell how harsh it is.

01:43:40.80

Paul Garny

Remember that. But yeah, they're not exactly cheap. Usually.

01:43:41.60

christophknoll

I'll buy some for when you come up and then ah no, they're not even the Amazon options aren't cheap like you're looking at thirty bucks I think for like a little little like tiny little tub. So um.

01:43:51.76

Paul Garny

But how long do they last like because it's not like you use up the servings that just stays in the bottle.

01:43:56.91

christophknoll

Well correct, but it depends on the airtime you have open because you know oxidation in that natural process right there. So if you that's why you open it real quick. Take a whiff and close it because that preserves its longevity. Um.

01:44:11.74

Paul Garny

Ah, wonder how long they last does it say how like how long it can be out in the air.

01:44:18.50

christophknoll

It's a great question I've I mean I don't own any sides. Not I couldn't tell you but I'll look it up and see what we got.

01:44:24.80

Paul Garny

Yeah, because that's that's interesting because like pure out stuff. Protein powder powder stuff like that. It's all based off of servings. Obviously you remove some of the material to use it. So with Salt smunks also just leave it in there and just smell it so excuse me.

01:44:38.29

christophknoll

Yo bro. Let me let me dry scoop my pre-workout and take a hit of smelling salt.

01:44:43.10

Paul Garny

Oh god I would fuck you up you we messed up and mix it within a monster energy or something sw that back pre-work out and then spelling solids. He'd be like a you'd be like that bear that like 8 tons of cocaine and killed like tons of people.

01:44:58.39

christophknoll

You you see that that's being turned into a movie. Yeah I keep seeing the ads for it but ah shelf life for smelling salts is around six months um but it can that's a.

01:44:59.53

Paul Garny

Is it thus I heard a rumor about that I think.

01:45:09.72

Paul Garny

Ah.

01:45:12.92

christophknoll

Varied number. It can last between one and six months depending on how long you have it open for and different factors like that probably the humidity of where you live also factors into it. You're probably better off in a drier place. Um, yeah so yeswell salts are a wild ballgame. Um.

01:45:20.22

Paul Garny

Gotcha.

01:45:23.62

Paul Garny

Yeah, that makes sense.

01:45:32.57

christophknoll

1 recommend it for for anybody. But in terms of other accessories. What I've never used it and I've seen it so well I'm asking for your your input on this one is um, the bands that people attach to their.

01:45:44.20

Paul Garny

Um, ah.

01:45:48.79

christophknoll

Mid their upper midsection or chest when they're doing a bench press that it like if you wrap it around yourself in the bar I think and it gives you like some kind of like additional support I don't know have you ever seen this before and now.

01:46:02.12

Paul Garny

Oh oh oh you mean slingsh shots. Yeah so sling slingshots. Okay, first of all, never use slingshots. First of all, if you're listening to this. Do not use syn shots I highly recommend against it took me a second to think about what you're talking about I thought you're talking about like resistance spans because it was like because like powerless attach resisting bands to the bench.

01:46:06.51

christophknoll

Yes, yes.

01:46:11.82

christophknoll

Ah art did just disclaimer out of the way.

01:46:21.59

Paul Garny

So they they don't slide back and forth because it's like the elasticity of the the band like kind of holds you in place like the um the it's physical like not the band itself lackticity like the actual material. It's made out of like prevents slipping. So it's it's going to stop you from sliding so left to right.

01:46:24.32

christophknoll

Um, oh okay.

01:46:38.50

Paul Garny

Kind of like how like the bar grip is going to slop stop your hands from slide enough to right? But anyways slingshots. Yes, so that was created by a um guy named Mark Bell I think and he created it. What's that.

01:46:53.17

christophknoll

That's a white guy I was just saying That's a white name.

01:46:57.74

Paul Garny

Yeah, it's it's yeah it is so he created it. He got fucking rich off it though. He made so much money. Um, he created it to increase your bench pr because when you're benching it pulls your elbows together. So it actually does some of the lifting for you. Um. The further down in the rep you go the more elasticity you're gonna get kind of like resistance bands when you're attaching it to any sort of movement you're doing when it's more stretched out is go to snap back harder. So when you're at the bottom of the rep you're gonna snap out of the bottom a lot easier and get it to the top when you're at the top. You're not really like using it at all. It's not really providing much resistance, but it's at the bottom that it's using it. So the problem with it. So first of all, it's not allowed in any sort of powerlifting league. It's against the rules because it assists with your with your Pr weight. It's going to assist you with your with your actual bench. Um, they have like benching suit which which kind of like. I don't necessarily know how they work like those like 1 piece suits that that power lifters wear I think it kind of keeps everything all like together. So it does actually like help you lift. That's like the um so there's like the raw power lifting which is just like a belt that's pretty much it I think but then there's the assisted power lifting which I think is. Like with that suit on because I think it actually like provides elasticity in whatever muscle you're using but slingshots the same kind of way. Um, but it's to such a degree that they don't allow it and they're also extremely dangerous. Um, you can hurt yourself very easily.

01:48:26.34

Paul Garny

By using them because you're pushing way more weight than your body can handle and all the weight is gonna be applied to you not all of the weight but whatever the slingshot is assisting with is Goingnna be put in weight under joints. It's not helping your muscles. It's helping your joints literally compress inwards. So it's like um, you know if you have like like I use a microphone stand. It's like. Moving the microphone sand and then also pressing on the joint at the same time like you have a much better chance of breaking a joint or ruining a joint because there's so much force being applied to it. So that's what a slingshot does is that it iflies a force to your elbows which helps you lift up the weight. But. I very much recommend against it I haven't seen anybody who will use 1 in forever. But um, they're not They're not safe at all. They're very dangerous.

01:49:13.37

christophknoll

Yeah, it's just one of those things I've seen in passing on socials. Never seen it in ah at Empire or any gem some or anything like that. So not a very common thing and in this area. Um, what is more common.

01:49:21.93

Paul Garny

Um, yeah.

01:49:27.76

christophknoll

And what I Highly recommend people do when you're building up your back, especially your your lats when you do pullups using Resistant Bands looped with your leg to give yourself still the freeform ah pullup set like scenario rather than going to the machine and doing weighted pull-ups and stuff like that.

01:49:44.52

Paul Garny

For.

01:49:46.81

christophknoll

Ah, so I think using that is a very good thing. Um I know in the bodybuilding world. You don't like to do a whole lot of calisthenics and stuff like that. But yeah, um, so.

01:49:56.10

Paul Garny

Yes, and no depends on the person who.

01:50:04.10

christophknoll

Well I say that because I've seen the memes of it's some doo who plays like his character is like father body buildingil or something like that and he like his he finds a calistiding First scene's like the power of of bodybuilding compels you or something like that. Um, yeah I'll set it to you later.

01:50:17.84

Paul Garny

I Don't know I'd had to look it up.

01:50:23.76

christophknoll

But essentially when I like to build I love doing this? ah but it takes a lot of taking your ego out of things to do this in a busy gym but taking some kind of a resistance band throwing it up and tying the knot and looping it around. Um.

01:50:34.40

Paul Garny

Earth.

01:50:42.92

christophknoll

To do your Pull-ups um is super beneficial for even if you don't need it being able to take it a lot take your rep a lot slower. Um and like feel your mind muscle with your muscles and then being able to explode explode through at the top I think is a really really good Thing. So. Um, resistance bands as a whole I'm a big fan of for warmups too doing like little side movements just to get yourself warmed up like that The side fling out thing I like doing that when I'm working. Um, yeah, but that I mean that also comes from an athletic standpoint. But um.

01:51:12.16

Paul Garny

Oh have Rot Cuff movements. Yeah yeah I recommend against those for most people just in general. Yeah, your rotator cuff is a joint that's like warming up your elbows.

01:51:20.97

christophknoll

Using for a resistance bands or the movement. Okay, yeah, so yeah.

01:51:31.91

Paul Garny

But anyways, that's ah, that's that's all anecdotal but go ahead.

01:51:36.58

christophknoll

Yeah, and again, that's athletic standpoint but ah resistance spans as a whole I think have a very good flexibility. Ah again I'll speak anecdotally here but I taught a ah.

01:51:40.14

Paul Garny

Um.

01:51:50.68

christophknoll

I Taught a get yoked class over the summer to some of the kids I teach and um, we didn't have access to like you know a pulldown bar or anything like that and we still wanted to work lats like that. Um, so we had a gym and we took the basketball hoop through an elastic over the rim. And then did La Pull downs like that. Um, and that gave us the flexibility to be able to I mean it's not a ton of weight because again think it's an elastic like it's It's just some some band but I was able to implement this level of instruction to people.

01:52:10.20

Paul Garny

For her.

01:52:16.59

Paul Garny

Yeah.

01:52:26.68

christophknoll

Without the actual use of a pulldown model because it would've been super easy like if you see a pulldown bar you sit in it and there's only 1 place for the movement to go and so if you actually have it in fun you it's easy to teach it but ah resistance bands kind of give flexibility to perform different kinds of workouts in alternative settings which is why I recommend. Resistance bands for at homework like I'm I'm able to do different motions and movements with a resistance band just here in the apartment like that we guide covid my pullup bar and obviously what I was able to do because I got wrecked by covid but my pull up bar my general calistthetic work and my resistance band.

01:52:47.14

Paul Garny

Where yeah.

01:53:05.52

christophknoll

Great way to stay in shape when you're at home. So I personally recommend resistance bands I don't know how much you see it in the in the bodybuilding world. But.

01:53:16.20

Paul Garny

From time to time like typically what you'll see is like reverse resistance hack squats for people who have bad knees if you have bad knees or bad joints for your knees. Um, and you you want to do hack Squats. They'll put resistance bands at the top of the machine and then as. Um, on the chair itself because um, it's easier to get out of the hole at the bottom when you have bad knees and there was bands pulling a little bit so it allows you to use a lot of the weight throughout most of the rep. But then at the bottom you can explode out of it much easier. That's the most of it. You'll see some power lifters kind of using it for bench. Um, to have it like pull down towards your chest more and then have it So like it's heavier at the top of the rep when you're not when it's not close to your chest and then when it's at you at your chest.. It's the lightest. It is so it's kind of same way. It's like reverse Banded. So It's easier to explode out of the out of the rep than it is to. Actually do the rep itself. Um, that's usually what you see? Um I've seen some guys doing it in a squat rack. They'll attach the resistance band to the top of the rack and then attach it to the bar and it'll do squash that way. It's all so like really the gist of what I'm trying to say here is that typically you see reverse banded. Everything Um, the only time you don't see resistance been in just these standard banded things that I can think of is like press because there's no real way to like attach a um like resistance spanned reverse I guess.

01:54:47.99

Paul Garny

Um, so when you attach it to a light pressed.

01:54:49.90

christophknoll

Well if you take the was gonna say if you attach it to the ah the plate loading bar and then attach it to the hand grips. You could get a little bit of reverse movement but not much. Yeah.

01:55:02.19

Paul Garny

That's the opposite I see we're going. It's the opposite because it's when it's at the bottom. There's no, there's no resistance from the band pulling it so it would be easier to get out of the hole. But what I'm saying is like when you do reverse banded things. It's the top of the.

01:55:10.90

christophknoll

Oh ah, go.

01:55:18.20

Paul Garny

The way it would work. You'd have to attach it to the wall behind the like press. So that way it pulls on the platform when you're at the bottom of the rep because that's the ideal way of doing it like the Hackswat The recent span is that it's stretched when you're at the in the hole So typically in likepress you see standard resistance band.

01:55:20.34

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:55:36.58

Paul Garny

Um, usage where it pulls it at the top of the rep but isn't pulling at the bottom of the rep. That's usually how resistance band should work. But I recommend against resistance spans in general. Um to anybody who's looking just for muscle mass or aesthetics because you're. Like there's really no reason to use it and if you have to use it for your knee joints. You're just lifting too much weight like you need to focus more on form and smoother slower reps if you have to use resistance bands to pull you out of the hole. You should be. You should be your strongest and most comfortable in the whole and if it's because of. You know if you have like a knee injury. That's 1 thing. But if you're just doing it because you're putting too much weight on your knees and you need to help get on the hole. You're just doing too much weight bro like stop doing so much weight go a plate or 2 lower and just do slower reps and getting down deep into the hole and then and then coming out of it like normal. So. Yeah I just am very against um, resistance bans for aesthetics in general unless you're just power if you're power lifting I can understand it but not not for bodybuilding. You should not be pushing so much weight your knees genuinely need the help from resistance band.

01:56:48.49

christophknoll

If you use a resistance band with leg press. It's you need a second person and they're going to superset with ah face poles because you're just pulling the ah the resistance band behind the ah. Instead of ah affiing it to the wall just doing faces with the ah exactly I'd be such a goofy movement.

01:57:03.46

Paul Garny

Yeah, they pull in the bed when you're at the bottom of it. Yeah, yeah, that's this yeah, you don't want to snap back in your face though that would suck. Um, but.

01:57:15.37

christophknoll

Ah, that's like someone sitting on the on the leg press like such a goofy thing to do like.

01:57:19.64

Paul Garny

Yeah, it's so fucking dumb that shit's so dumb. But 1 thing to do to consider too which we will cover really briefly is um, knee wraps and Knee sleeves if you need the elasticity for your knees to to help then get knee knee sleeves.

01:57:29.24

christophknoll

Yep.

01:57:34.82

Paul Garny

Um, no sorry Knee Wraps knee wraps give more of a elastic um movement to it than knee sleeves do but I also am an advocate for knee sleeves in general for heavier movements I'll use them on like hack squat or regular squat but knee wraps. I'm very against I used to use them back in the day. But if you don't the problem with Knee Wraps is if you don't wrap them perfectly. They can really fuck up your day and knee sleeves keep that consistent. You know they always have your knee sleeved up and perfectly balanced. Um, where the knee wraps you have to wrap it just right and get it just right and then sometimes they're they're not perfect like they're not balancing each side so one knee is moving differently than than the other yeah knee wraps are a whole nother ball game when it comes to trying to be consistent with your lifts and at the same time they provide elasticity which helps you with your lift so it's like. If you really want to lift the actual weight just get knee sleeves. Um if anything knee sleeves make it harder to lift at least for me because they squeeze like my hams and my like the the bottom of my quads and bottom of my hands because of the actual sleeve itself. So it kind of hinders. My actual muscle contraction in a sense. So.

01:58:45.48

christophknoll

No.

01:58:51.62

Paul Garny

So and then to take into account.

01:58:52.12

christophknoll

Yeah I'm an outsider looking in when it comes to knee accessories just because I've never used them but the other day I was squatting heavy and I could hear my right knee when I was.

01:58:57.41

Paul Garny

Are.

01:59:06.97

christophknoll

Down at the bottom. Um, ah of my rep and then pushing and exploiting Upwards I could just hear it go and I was like oh well, that's lovely. Um, well would you look at that. Um, yeah, so I probably will hop on that probably.

01:59:12.84

Paul Garny

Ah, that's not supposed to happen. Yeah, that's not that's not good.

01:59:26.21

christophknoll

Come the turn of the new year just because this is the 1 time of the year that you're not supposed to buy yourself anything so because you never know what's around the corner for Christmas so I ah come the new year I'll probably hop on it. But yeah, that's that's a whole bunch of accessories and and apparel that we just covered today. Um.

01:59:33.70

Paul Garny

Right? well.

01:59:45.38

christophknoll

Again, we are not affiliated endorsed or or marketing for any of these particular brands that we've talked about purely anecdotal what works for us might not work for you. So continue to test out the stuff we talk about? do not use this as gospel. We are not I mean. Ah, might be swoll Jesus but you can't be using this as gospel so you got to find what works for you and continue to work with that use this as recommendations use use us as an accessory us essentially.

02:00:12.65

Paul Garny

Yeah, we're just this is for entertainment and if you want to use anything that we say then that's on that's up to you.

02:00:20.24

christophknoll

Yeah, ah well on that note guys we will be seeing you guys next week with a brand new episode of Paul just dishing it out at ah what? what was the thing we were gonna have um, ah yeah, but Paul Paul for 2 hours straight just

02:00:31.38

Paul Garny

Ah, well definitely gonna talk about um Lever King I Definitely want to talk about Liver king.

02:00:38.39

christophknoll

Venting and ranting about Liver King so I'm kidding but it'll probably be a next week's episode so ah I will see or we will see all of you guys then at fire buddy.

02:00:40.30

Paul Garny

Yep.

02:00:45.21

Paul Garny

See you guys.


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