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HGH #31 - Fitness Myths Debunked Part 2


00:01.78

Paul

All right? We're back sorry guys. We just had a technical difficulty um to some internet issues. But with that being said, we'll continue where we are so we're talking about um that John Beast guy and so with the comments right? He somebody commented like exactly what's going on so he does like his fucking thing.

00:13.80

christophknoll

Um.

00:17.69

christophknoll

Which is so ridiculous.

00:18.33

Paul

And then he sits he's he like sits down. Yeah, it just like it. It doesn't mean I don't know Anyways, it so makes him happy then whatever as long as he's not hurt anybody um then he sits down and yeah, he really is but that's that's on him. Um, so he sits down in the leg extension right.

00:28.90

christophknoll

He's hurting himself.

00:37.38

Paul

This is set gets back up. There's is fucking air guitar thing. What are the hell he does it. It depends on each each video' is a little different and he records like 4 times every single fucking session. But um, he sits back. He gets back up stops recording somebody goes all of that just for 3 reps on leg extension and I'm like.

00:45.10

christophknoll

Yeah.

00:56.74

Paul

Holy shit. He's not kidding because I washed it back. He did this whole set up this fucking thing and fucking air guitar and all that gets in leg extension 1 2 3 and gets up and is done I'm like.

01:06.31

christophknoll

Like extension Pr.

01:10.21

Paul

Yeah, for real I'm like dude you did 3 like it's just it's funny to me and then he does like that thing in the locker room like with the with the pen you ever seen that? Okay, you got to go to his Instagram. It's so good so he has like this pen thing he like pokes his finger and he's like yeah.

01:15.84

christophknoll

No I have him.

01:27.24

Paul

He is like the fucking noise right? So I'm like going into the comments I'm like what is he doing because I've never seen this like little device thing and somebody said it's um, electric acupuncture. So like he's like shocking his fingers with this fucking acupuncture thing. He's like reacting to it but he like records himself doing it and so it's so weird. It's so odd I don't know what's it what his? um Instagram is um, yeah yeah, he's he's he's standing in the um, he's standing in the locker room and he does it. So if you see a locker room video. That's probably what it is um.

01:50.61

christophknoll

It's John beast mode I'm I'm on it right now I'm trying to find the the bathroom thing you're talking about.

02:05.16

Paul

Yeah, yeah, there we go. There's 1 right there I could fucking sign in damn it. Um.

02:06.11

christophknoll

I got it right here. Yeah.

02:18.50

christophknoll

He's talking this video. You can't even hear him.

02:21.10

Paul

Oh damn. Okay, um, but yeah, he let me see if I can sign in here on my on my Instagram my computer um he it's like this weird acupuncture thing I don't know what the hell he's doing. But.

02:37.66

christophknoll

Oh my God That's you all I'll just send it to you? Oh my God Ah, ah, that's hilarious.

02:38.24

Paul

Yeah, it's just so funny and it's like I feel I feel bad because like.

02:48.73

Paul

I'm pulling it up right now here I got it.

02:55.79

Paul

Okay, this is just a photo is not playing anything with the hell there we go. Okay, that's like lifting. Okay, he just took a photo and posted it in the locker room. That's interesting, um me see.

03:05.90

christophknoll

Thought the one I sent you is the actual video.

03:11.65

Paul

Um.

03:18.81

Paul

Um, yeah, yes, that fucking thing it's like this weird pen thing the b six six six

03:26.49

christophknoll

Yeah, no idea what that is.

03:33.54

Paul

It's yes, somebody said it's like some sort of like acupuncture thing. Um, you see.

03:44.15

Paul

Somebody said, he's so he was absorbing the stored life essence of puny mortals who gazed upon and were blinded by his almighty triceps.

03:54.65

christophknoll

Yeah, he's a weird here's a weird. Ah weird guy.

03:58.30

Paul

Yeah I Just again I Just feel bad because like I don't know what the hell is going on with them mentally. Um, but you think.

04:03.64

christophknoll

Well I Wonder if it's a character like you know how people make characters for for their online Personas like but at the same time look at everything he's wearing at the gym like you don't show up unless you're like lifting gloves the the headphones he uses. Like his whole get up like that just seems like what he's lifting with.

04:24.29

Paul

Ah I just found it Electronic acupuncture pen that looks exactly like it. Um I just googled it. It's yeah I I think it's like it doesn't actually like.

04:29.53

christophknoll

So what he's He's giving himself acupuncture treatment every workout.

04:40.12

Paul

Pre you like Acupuncture does I think it just like electric it electrically shocks you but it's also such a small pen like it can't really be that powerful. So I think there's like a little bit of a shock and he just were.

04:41.12

christophknoll

Yeah.

04:47.47

christophknoll

Yeah, is it to like stimulate your your nerve system to give you better I know Grip strength.

04:55.94

Paul

I have no idea why he does it I can't even begin to understand because they say it's like it's like supposed to help with fatigue and shit you should got John be mode and like bro.

05:02.28

christophknoll

Shit shit is is is that what I should have been doing for my hand recovery.

05:12.15

Paul

Can I have some locker room acupuncture sessions with you to fix my hand please I'll drive out to you bro I I would not be surprised if like he has like a three million dms of people asking for him to train them like out of like the meme like that would be I'm sure he's got 1000000 of those.

05:15.36

christophknoll

Hand hand is healed in one week confirmed

05:30.68

christophknoll

Um, I mean he's got like 30000 followers for just no reason like.

05:31.73

Paul

Um.

05:36.83

Paul

It's he's fucking verified dude he's verified on Instagram I remember this dude had like a thousand followers I remember that like it was like yeah just because of these fucking videos like I'm click this one.

05:45.57

christophknoll

Yeah, he's blown up.

05:52.88

Paul

Yeah, here's his fucking leg extension again. He's always in his leg extension. He always has a napkin that rubs his nose for some shit like for some reason like why is his nose leaking that much.

06:04.16

christophknoll

It's it's from ah all that acupuncture. You know.

06:07.74

Paul

He yeah just drain it out his nose 3 4 5 6 7 8 he did 8 reps. Okay, um.

06:15.97

christophknoll

Okay, so that's warm little little little set I guess.

06:23.70

Paul

It's it does a big set for him. A revs is a shit done for him. Dude this is a video of old footage. He's recording another phone. It's a video of another phone. He posted it a week ago I just

06:36.74

christophknoll

That's yeah I think I saw that.

06:39.75

Paul

Apparently somebody said like in the comments on like 1 of his videos that like they go to the same gym. This is a while ago that I saw this like like a few months ago apparently he they go to the same gymsis guy and like he never cleans the clothes anywheres like he comes in it like changes into them. Um, so like.

06:53.77

christophknoll

And just leaves those clothes there. Oh g.

06:57.90

Paul

Yeah, so like apparently like he fucking reeks because of that like he just never he never cleans him but it looks like he's got a new getup. It says head banger ball the tour Mtv tour. It's all black.

07:07.30

christophknoll

Yeah, looks like a bunch of old eighty s ninety s metal and hair metal bins t-shirts. Yeah, which those are surprisingly popular. Even.

07:15.60

Paul

Yeah, yeah, like slayer he wears that slayer shirt all the times like these gray shorts. Um.

07:24.78

christophknoll

And regular lift I see so many either rock and roll or metal shirts in the gym like.

07:31.27

Paul

Yeah I mean I don't see it too much down here, but it might be the the gym that I go to but um I see I'm glad that we're also done the gym Shark Fucking wave like that was awful where everyone fucking I'm sure. But.

07:40.51

christophknoll

But that'll come around again.

07:45.75

Paul

Apparently he the guy who owns Jim Shark is like like 1 of the youngest billionaires in the u k or some shit like he's like 29 he's 29 and he's worth a billion.

07:50.40

christophknoll

Oh I believe it I mean he he he basically monopolized gym clothing for a good 7 years like he completely took it over.

07:59.00

Paul

Yeah, just straight. Yeah, it was it I mean you smart. It was smart with it. He sponsored? Yeah yeah.

08:05.63

christophknoll

Well, it's all the sponsorship deals. That's a thing like that's how he really was able to take off because like regular people were able to pick up sponsorships as long as they had a social media following and that just took off.

08:20.36

Paul

Yeah, yeah, there's like the affiliate marketing and then there's like the um, there's like the actual big big game sponsorships. So it makes me wonder like where the money came from.

08:30.10

christophknoll

I Mean you probably had you probably had prior investors. Yeah.

08:30.27

Paul

That like allowed him to to pay for these spotships because he's I mean ventures. Yeah I'm sure and and I wonder if any of it came from family money like almost like I would say good most like huge corporations started from like family money you know like like Jim Shark I'm sure might be 1 of them where like.

08:44.23

christophknoll

Yeah.

08:49.82

Paul

You know he's like ah he's like a billionaire but like he might have started with like being a millionaire because of his family and he like put in like 2 3000000 into the business to like get it started. Yeah like exactly like that's exactly like granted a million dollars to start a global corporation or global company is not a lot of money.

08:55.50

christophknoll

I took a small loan of $1000000

09:07.81

christophknoll

Correct.

09:09.79

Paul

Um, so like what's funny too just that as a side tangent thing is that when Trump said it's a small loan a million dollars like we're talking proportionately small like we're talking like like a million dollars for like the idea of an enormous company. So a million dollars at the time was not much to get it started.

09:17.50

christophknoll

Deal.

09:24.38

christophknoll

Yeah.

09:26.16

Paul

Then he turned it into like 4000000000 or some shit like it was like that's what he means by small loan is proportionately but a million dollars to the average person is obviously a shit ton of money but like like like a loan of $1000000 for a gym is a shit ton like that's a lot of money like I could build a solid s gym for like 500 k like with like state of the art equipment for 500 k including card equipment. So like a million dollars for a gym is a decent amount of money. Um, but to start a global brand is is really not that much I mean that shit will go out like that in just marketing like you could spend. You could seriously spend for someone I could tell you for a fact from someone who works in marketing I can tell you you can.

09:45.31

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

10:04.86

Paul

Spend as much money as you want on marketing and advertising. So um, that shit can go like a light bulb but um to get back into what we were saying we're talking about or we talking about to that led us to John beast.

10:19.60

christophknoll

This Ah, all stummed this all stemmed from abs somehow. So.

10:22.74

Paul

Yeah, anyways, um yeah, you don't want to be doing a shit to ideally you want to be hitting hyperperch your features just like you would with anything else. You do want to be careful of your knees though with the way with what you were saying before but um, yeah, my knees can't handle shit anymore man.

10:33.36

christophknoll

Yeah, with weighted setups. Yeah oh that's where it came from I wear Knees sleeves for for setups. That's where it came from. Yep.

10:39.89

Paul

Like.

10:44.61

Paul

Yeah, yeah, he wears that guy wear his knee sleeves for everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah, job beast me would do some shit like that read where the yeah, all right there we go. That's where it was um, but let's see what else do we got here ah muscle turning into fat if you don't work out for a month or more that's such a bullshit thing like. Like yeah, you might like lose a muscle and your muscle density might go down. Um, but yeah, it's not.

11:07.10

christophknoll

But it won't turn it to fat like it that that is that is again purely based on your diet. It's not based on you know your your workout regiment.

11:16.99

Paul

Yeah, and and it doesn't like it's not like your fat cells all of a sudden you're like muscle cells all of a sudden become fat cells like they can't just convert like that identify as as.

11:27.40

christophknoll

I'm transitioning from I'm transitioning from a muscle cell to a to a fat cell please respect please respect my decision.

11:36.95

Paul

If you don't you're going to jail straight to jail yeah, please um, please refer to me as Mrs Fat cell I'm no longer Mr Muscle cell I'm transitioning. Yeah, it doesn't work that way. It doesn't just become a fat cell. Um.

11:53.80

christophknoll

And another thing from that to like just based on the picture right there like ah I think another big thing is that people think that people who do a lot of gaming can't be muscular because your body is like in seeded positions for long periods of time. But.

11:53.23

Paul

So that's annoying.

12:07.82

Paul

Yeah.

12:09.67

christophknoll

Paul and I are both avid gamers so we can completely attest to the opposite side of that that you know that's just part of your life because you're only you're only spending an hour or 2 in the gym each day and you spend you know, however long you spend dieting.

12:14.90

Paul

And.

12:27.96

christophknoll

And and cooking and whatnot so you can spend the rest of your time doing whatever you want and in fact, if anything you're just allowing your body to be at rest because you're just sitting or laying down playing video games or whatever. So if anything that as long as you make time for your actual routine of eating and working out.

12:38.16

Paul

Um, that.

12:47.77

christophknoll

Gaming has absolutely no impact on unless you're you're doing it for like 12 hour binges every day.

12:54.43

Paul

Yeah, obviously that's not good, but that was tied to like the um like youtuber thing like back in like the early two 2010 s roughly when everybody wanted to be a youtuber. Um, there's this whole thing where like you get fat and like it's not good for you and it's unhealthy and stuff. But it's like There's actually a lot of youtubers that were like pretty jacked at the time and they still kind of are like 1 of the ones that I watched pretty pretty avidly at the time long before I ever stepped in the gym was vanos gaming and he did a face reveal for the aols challenge and do was fucking yoked like but if you think about it like these gamers.

13:13.26

christophknoll

Yeah.

13:21.51

christophknoll

Oh yeah. So.

13:31.52

Paul

Who play professionally or they do Youtube videos and stuff especially if they're bigger. They'll have somebody editing their videos which takes most of the time. Um, so like if you're you know out of like let's say like a full-time job for utubing or being a youtuber most of it's spent editing so since he's probably not editing any of his videos. Um, he spent he could spend maybe 3 or 4 hours getting actual footage while gaming and he has the rest of the day. So why wouldn't he go to the gym as well. You know what? I mean so it only makes sense that like you have the time to also focus on yourself as well because you're only playing for 4 hours and that's your whole fucking job. Outside of like running businesses and shit. But it was just a comic misconception.

14:13.36

christophknoll

Um, I just looked at it because I hadn't seen the reveal since I stopped watching Vanos gaming a while back. He is shredded.

14:18.26

Paul

Yeah, what? which one are you looking at the aols challenge thing.

14:24.31

christophknoll

No, there's a there's a picture he posted of him must be like an airport because he got luggage around him and justs he's got wide shoulder frames filled out sleeves like his jawline is is pretty crisp too like that that is that is a pretty.

14:41.53

Paul

Where where is this.

14:43.23

christophknoll

Pretty big Dude I just looked up vanoss gaming face and it's ah you'll see it. It's There's a tan background behind it.

14:55.58

Paul

Um, let me see walders.

14:56.23

christophknoll

Or the one of him just in a suit like that shows a pretty fit form to. Yep.

15:03.57

Paul

Oh yeah, there we go. He's wearing a sweatshirt. Yeah yeah, you could tell he's he lifts I mean he was like semi pro hockey player or something like that before he got into gaming um and Youtube and all that but um, so.

15:13.40

christophknoll

Yeah.

15:20.82

Paul

There's also that too but that kind of helped him get to the place he has physically right? it just it's just an interesting like misconception that people have um, looking at him now. He's definitely lost a lot of size. Um, he has.

15:33.37

christophknoll

Yeah.

15:37.78

Paul

evanfong.vanoss.rinks because rinks is like I think is like um his like artists name for like music. Um, but yeah, he's he's I don't think he really focuses on the gym at all anymore. It doesn't really look like it unless he's just the clothing that he wears. Um.

15:53.53

christophknoll

It can be tough to doing being successful in a different field. It can be tough to Ule or spend the time going back in and actually working out and doing your proper dieting and everything.

15:55.78

Paul

But.

16:05.70

Paul

Yeah, yeah, it could be. It can be difficult. Yeah, looking at 1 that was like bus six months ago it does like he looks like an average guy. He might hit the gym but he doesn't look like he really focuses on it at all. Um.

16:14.97

christophknoll

Yeah.

16:19.26

Paul

Yeah, like you could tell he's got like slight cap deals a little bit like he's kind of lost some size Really? um, but anyways, it's just it's interesting at least to see that like it's not always the case that like just because you're kind of sitting around doesn't mean that you're not getting big. There's there. There's that video I don't know if you saw it I think I sent it to you where I was like.

16:23.57

christophknoll

Yeah.

16:38.56

Paul

Guy lifting like like super hard at the gym that was like right when I get home and it's like this guy's totallyling down to minecraft like with like minecraft music and it's like that's how it is. It's like intense at the gym but then you get home. He's kind of chill and play some games or read or whatever watch some Tv Whatever it is um.

16:48.24

christophknoll

Yeah, and I think another thing too for the the muscle turning into fat Smith like I'm I'm living through that procedure right now where. You know I can't do my full workout regime because of my broken hand and everything and yet it's not that my muscles are turning into fat. It's that either they're going to you know minute likes they're going to become smaller because I'm not putting in the same work or not targeting them the same but they're not just going to turn into fat like I'm not going to. Um, not going to enlarge from what's going on right now. So.

17:25.44

Paul

Yeah, yeah, and and like I was saying when you when you have that incident with your hand was like this is the time to like I guess kind of like do a slight recomp a little bit like kind of just like like you are already like really lean. Prior to working with Alex but like if you guys had the time to like put in like you know some time to like drop like a percentage of fat or something like now would be the time where you just do cardio eat healthy, interesting. Okay, um.

17:51.59

christophknoll

Yeah, we're actually focusing on the ah on the opposite we're focusing on continuing to add more and more we actually added a mass chaser to my ah to my diet. So it's a mass gain so mass gainers. But.

18:00.78

Paul

Which is what.

18:07.38

christophknoll

It's the particular brand that he sells and it's it's athletic or athlete something. Um, but yeah mass chaser Athlete something? Um, it's just a better brand because the sugar content isn't as high because.

18:21.19

Paul

Yeah.

18:23.28

christophknoll

So often with mass gainers. You're looking at like thirty five forty grams of sugar this one caps at like 22 which is nice. Um, it's I I don't know it's it's it starts with athlete something athlete devotion. Maybe I don't know.

18:28.47

Paul

Um, what what brand I'm trying to see if I could find it right now.

18:41.73

Paul

I Want to look it up when I see you the little nutrition label here's a guest barri.

18:48.30

christophknoll

Oh there it is mass now let me open it up Mass Mass chaser. Ah what is this mass chaser from it.

19:00.20

Paul

Oh project ad Yay Yeah, project ad Okay, yeah, it's a good brand. They're good brand. Their gda is pretty good.

19:03.24

christophknoll

It's got a pink label on it. Yeah yeah, we added that to you know, try and well um I was missing meals a lot too because of my work schedule and.

19:15.43

Paul

Yeah.

19:19.58

christophknoll

Moving and everything so we added that in to kind of get me there.

19:23.99

Paul

Yeah, that makes sense. Um I'm trying to see if I could pull up the label here kind of hard out there. It is okay how many scoops you have 1 or 2 Okay, yeah, added sugars.

19:31.70

christophknoll

2 scoops per per serving. Yeah, so go go off the five hundred calorie one

19:41.10

Paul

Yeah, so twenty five grams of protein 118 grams which is the ma shot gain complex which is just mainly protein mct oil powder. So there's some fat in there carb 10 which is pearch so they put pe starts in there for a lot of carbs. Um, yeah I mean that's all Bas Gainners are

19:47.50

christophknoll

Yeah, it's got carbs up the wazoo.

19:57.78

christophknoll

Yep.

20:00.77

Paul

All and the dextrous type yoga sar and dextrous. That's all askingners are is just carbs. Um, but damn fucking $60 for 15 servings. That's ridiculous. That's $4 a serving.

20:05.13

christophknoll

Yeah.

20:15.47

Paul

Granted that that's a whole meal I mean if you treat it like a meal. It's really not too too bad.

20:16.46

christophknoll

It yeah in theory it it replaces a meal I I bolster it like my diet with it but some days like yesterday with the wedding like I just left the house and by the time I got back I just did there I had no energy to make anything so I just I i.

20:24.29

Paul

Okay.

20:35.13

christophknoll

Substituted.

20:36.34

Paul

Yeah, that's fair. That's fair, yeah, it's a good that's a good brand. Um, they they so they work a lot with um, unchained athletes. The team that I'm on they work a lot with Mike The guy who runs it um so he like really promotes them and has a lot of their products and his gyms and stuff. Um.

20:52.73

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

20:53.20

Paul

I Mean it's a good brand. Um, they they like I said their gda is pretty good. It's not the best gda on the market. The best gda other market is not even like a fitness brand. Um, it's called Madtador the glucose disposal agent. Um matterdador. It's pretty good, but it's very sought after so it's hard of hard to get it.

21:11.15

christophknoll

Yeah.

21:11.86

Paul

And stock. Um, but anyways, um yeah I mean it's just it's tough to to like you got it. You'll hold on to you're not going to lose. You're not going to like you might gain some fat by not lifting or whatever but it's not like you're going to lose all of your muscle if you're on the mort.

21:29.24

christophknoll

I'm going to turn into the Michelin man.

21:31.82

Paul

Yeah, that's not going to happen night overnight you know and um and at the same time if you're recovering from something your body is going to put a lot of energy and calories towards it. So if like like a lot it happened a lot during Covid Um, where guys like became lazy and started eating and shit and like they put on a lot of fat.

21:41.78

christophknoll

Yep.

21:49.37

Paul

But they just look like they just got buff is really what it looked like it's not like it's not like they lost all their muscle. Especially if you're the older you are the more denseer muscles going to be so like on the younger side. Yeah, it's more superficial so you might like in in quotations lose a muscle because it's not super dense but like these guys are like 30

21:50.73

christophknoll

Yeah.

22:08.29

Paul

And they took like four months off just eating like shit. But then they get back in the gym and all of a sudden just drop all of it. You know because it's just they're getting back to the where they were so covid was kind of the perfect time to put on weight if you wanted to put on weight. Um, but I don't know it's really not that big of a deal. You'll you'll get back to where you were um. And get back to like you're gonna you're gonna have no problem. Get back to where you were yeah.

22:30.62

christophknoll

Well I'm actually up in wait now which is great I for the longest time couldn't break that I was plateauing at 200 even with coach and I my way in this morning. Well last week was 2 ah one this morning was 2 ah one point six. So.

22:45.74

Paul

Nice yeah I weighed in 2 or 2.7 this week. Um, which when I have the money I'm going to be getting test prop which we talked about briefly. Um, so when I get on that cycle I'm going to start losing some fat.

22:46.50

christophknoll

Slowly getting there.

23:02.32

Paul

And maintaining muscle. Um I respond very very well to masteron so that'll be very fun I can't wait to get on that and I'll be looking good for fucking Florida did I can't wait because I'm already like starting this next cycle I mind a decent place as far as mass goes like I've got I've honestly gained probably way too much mass.

23:11.22

christophknoll

Um, hollia.

23:21.42

Paul

Um, like he said this over a week ago. He said coach said all right Let's pull back because you've put on enough mass and I'm put on even more now and like I could feel it in my back like my back and my shoulders are starting to like Twitch when I'm sitting at home. So I'm like all right I'm put on some fucking muscle right now. It's ridiculous. And my stretch marks are getting bad I got stretch marks um right where my terrace major minor is um and like my rear dealt. So. It's like those are getting more gnarly. Ah so I definitely need to pull back on that and just start losing some fat because I've definitely put on a few percentages of ah fat. But um, moving on speaking of that actually. Um, there's another myth that you have to take steroids to build an aesthetic aesthetic um physique which is not the case. It's not always true.

24:09.48

christophknoll

Ah, what do you mean? I I know I have to teach stwards if I want to look good. What are you talking about you.

24:13.43

Paul

Trend is like so when you start in the gym. That's you know you know you're starting when you take trend.

24:21.53

christophknoll

You shouldn't be. You shouldn't even be in the gym If you're not taking test.

24:27.30

Paul

Yeah, it's like they're like ah they're like dude I Just want to make sure that like the building was set at plane of Fitness and then I'd start taking trend like I was ready I was ready this should sit in my car and it's like a pill I mean okay.

24:36.26

christophknoll

Can you imagine taking anabolics and going to pf.

24:44.22

Paul

There There are a couple pros that do go to Pf on the reg. But it's all men's physique guys and no I don't think they would sponsor an athlete like that because that's not the athlete they want to portray I mean they were making fun of those guys in fucking commercials. You know.

24:49.44

christophknoll

And it probably has to be sponsorship based too.

25:00.80

christophknoll

Yeah.

25:02.42

Paul

And making fun of bodybuilders and commercials I think it's just like it's whatever convenient, whatever is convenient and let me tell you like looking at gyms down here in the Carolinas if you're not near like a pretty busy city. There's fucking nothing. So if you have nothing near you besides a plane of fitness and that's that's where you got to go I mean it's just it's.

25:20.84

christophknoll

Yeah I mean I get that but most times if you're at the success level of professional bodybuilding. You have options available.

25:21.21

Paul

Just what you got to do? um.

25:30.38

Paul

Yeah, chances are um I also think that if you are competing professionally I think you should also rearrange your priorities ah and most likely move closer to a better gym. Not necessarily across a state or something like that. But like. You need to move a half hour to get closer to a gym I think that that's an important thing to do especially like I said competing professionally if you're not competing professionally then obviously don't bother but um, you know like moving just to get closer to a specific gym. But if you plan on competing professionally or going to or are. Competing professionally then the gym is going to matter. Um, that's why I am kind of particular on the gym at go to because I plan on competing professionally so I need to have the ability to maximize my potential. Um, but yeah, so to get back to it. You don't need an aesthetic type physique.

26:22.56

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

26:28.90

Paul

Like in order to build one I mean you don't need Anabolics. You don't need it um to compete professionally and to get like the professional look. Yes, Absolutely um, but to get a good physique that when you're in public people are going to you know gawk at and which they had no, you don't need that. It's just going to take some time naturally and you'll get there. So.

26:49.18

christophknoll

Yeah, and that's the thing that makes this myth believable though is that people will hit the gym for 7 years and still not see what they want to see and claim this reasoning when in reality your grind needs to be.

26:58.65

Paul

Yeah.

27:05.70

christophknoll

Probably closer to the 5 to 7 year range if not longer in order to truly get like that purely aesthetic look that's like the gym jaw or the ah beach jawdropper you know what? I mean.

27:17.92

Paul

Yeah, it. It would take a lot of time and the thing with natural competitors too is that you need to focus on like you truly need to ah so like steroids the thing that steroids allows you to do is you can focus on building muscle and losing fad the same time It's possible and that's what. I'm able to do with maon. That's why I respond so I respond so well to it and that's why I look leaner quickly is because I'm building muscle but also losing fat. So that's what Sarah are able to do or help you do where when you're natural. You need to be focusing on entirely one or the other putting on muscle or losing fat. You can't be focusing on both. Um, that's the whole like power builder mentality is that like you want to gain strength but also look good. It doesn't work that way. Um, you got to do one or the other when you're natural. Otherwise you're never going to make any progress because you're not eating enough to put on size and you're not eating. You're not in ah enough of a deficit to lose to lose fat.

27:53.68

christophknoll

No.

28:11.20

Paul

So You're going to be doing neither. Ah so you got to embrace the bulk when you're putting on Muscle you're going to get Fat. You're going to.. You're goingnna you're not going to feel like you look good in the mirror you're going to lose your vascularity excuse me um, all of that. But then ah when you're. Losing Fat. You really needed to embrace how difficult it's going to be Ah, you're going to be eating what feels like close to nothing and you're going to be doing a lot of cardio and a lot of lifting most likely so in in both aspects.

28:38.60

christophknoll

And also eating eating the things that you probably aren't enjoying as much.

28:45.64

Paul

Oh absolutely. Absolutely. Ah, it's it's going to be hard I mean obviously prepping for a show is similar. You're going to. You're not going to want to do anything really but like you know obviously food's not going to taste the best when you're trying to lose weight when you're putting on weight.

28:58.68

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

29:00.34

Paul

You know there's this whole joke that like you can eat whatever you want you don't necessarily want to eat whatever you want ah because you're just going to put on fat that way. Um, but obviously that's that's where a coach kind of comes in telling you what to eat. You know what's ideal all of that but you don't need steroids to have an aesthetic physique is not true. Anybody who blames steroids for them not having a good physique um is kind of skimppping out on their responsibilities. Ah my naturalgen genetics were not very good. But if I put in another 11 years naturally I could have gotten to a good place with a coach's guidance. You know I could have gone to an aesthetic place. Could I really compete probably not I probably would even be able to compete naturally in natural divisions because I just don't have good genetics but um, could I get a good vesique as far as the general public goes absolutely could I probably get abs absolutely but it just would take more time and more dedication for me personally. Um, some guys do have really good natural genetics though. And if you do you know who you are um and you're going to put on muscle and lose fat like no tomorrow and I'm very jealous of you. So.

30:00.94

christophknoll

I Think this myth also kind of makes it makes the argument that people think that once you you take steroids any kind of anabolics. You're not actually you just automatically become that aesthetic I think that's where this comes from too because people think that.

30:14.77

Paul

Yeah.

30:20.47

christophknoll

All right, You're gonna pin once and then you're going to be just seebum. That's that's that's where you go from you go from regular dad Bod to Cbum with a single pin like that's all you need? Ah no, that has that that can't be real.

30:23.61

Paul

Yeah, yeah, did you hear C Bum has a dad bod now. Do you see that video. So this guy goes around asking girls what they like and men and she said like dad boss and stuff and he showed a sea bum in his off season. She's like yeah, that's perfect. That's a dad bought right there and this dude looks at the camera and he's like Chris bumsstead has a dad bod bun for.

30:41.33

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

30:45.51

christophknoll

Jesus.

30:54.98

Paul

There's no way we can't compete so it was just it was funny because it's like the joke now is that see bum as a dad bought in the off season.

30:57.55

christophknoll

Ah, my god.

31:01.43

christophknoll

You know I was I was just going to Instagram to to check if he actually had a dad bought. But.

31:08.56

Paul

No, no, no, no, no, no, it was just like it was like one of I think he was like an Iceland or some shit coming out of like a um, let me see if I could find it yeah like something like that it was you could tell his winter and he was coming out of a sauna. Um, so he showed that video.

31:12.43

christophknoll

When he did a skiing trip.

31:22.96

Paul

Or photo and they were like yeah he's got a dad bought. It was literally just like you just buff like that's all it was you just buff as hell. Um, so they were like oh yeah, that's that's a dad bought and ah yeah, we're we're done Dude There's no, there's no way Now there's no way. Um, but.

31:27.50

christophknoll

Yeah.

31:34.37

christophknoll

It's over for us.

31:42.17

Paul

Yeah, so it see that's what pisses me off about steroids is that like just because just because somebody's taken steroids doesn't mean they just automatically blow up. You know it's not like because a lot of a lot of it is trial and error a lot of is trial and error. It's going to take time and on top of that. Like there's going to be There's periods where it'll actually take a while to be in your system. It took a while to be out of your system. You got to run blood work and all that like there's so much to it. It's a whole nother ballgame like like you really need to take it to the next level and dedicate much more of your mind to it when you started taking shit and on top of that. It's not like you take it and you don't have to work hard in the gym. It's like you got to like? Yes, there's been studies that show that like if you don't lift you gain muscle. We've talked about it but like when you're in the gym. You really need to be working much much harder or else you're just going to like fuck your organs but on top of that you can't be taking the shit forever. And what's what's your bit. What's your number 1 muscle in your body. Essentially do you know off top your head. What's the number one muscle we have well I was looking for heart your heart is your number 1 muscle. So your heart's a muscle.

32:48.13

christophknoll

And oh well, it's our back. Our back is our biggest muscle. Okay, in terms of in terms of like usage. Yes yes, actually my calves my calves are my number 1.

33:00.53

Paul

Yes, functionality and usage your heart is your number 1 muscle my calves need work. It's like that guy's like what's your red flag and he's like my calves and he's like I'm and like emotionally or like mentally just like oh dude I'm sorry my head's in the gym right now? Um, but he yeah so. It's where is it going with this. Oh my gosh it has lost my entire train of thought what were you talking about.

33:25.18

christophknoll

We were just talking about the most used muscle and your heart.

33:30.83

Paul

Yes, your heart. Yes, sorry so when you're taking St You're also building your heart up your heart's getting bigger and bigger so you can't take this shit forever. All so you're gonna build plaque in your heart and you're gonna build your heart way too big. Um, and it's gonna end up hurting.

33:45.44

christophknoll

I Won't stop until my heart is an elephant. Ah.

33:48.80

Paul

Yeah, basically what ends up happening your heart gets fucking the size of a bowling ball and explodes. That's how most bodybuilders die.

33:52.95

christophknoll

Well, that's why I was going to say that's why so many of you know, heart attacks happen in bodybuilding.

33:59.29

Paul

Yeah, exactly? Um, so that's that's just a common misconception with it and the other thing with it too. Um is that less is more so when you're you know people talk about oh I'm taking grants of the shit and all that. There's a common misconception where the more you take the more effective. It's going to be um so when you start taking shit and somebody's like you should be taking a gram of this. That's just way too much like most guys are under a gram where if you're talking about the like the o um, it's not. You know the o is obviously a different ballgame because they're going to be taking grams of shit where guys who aren't on the o shouldn't be taking it. It's just that depending on the the stage that you're stepping on so that's another misconception with steroids is the actual dosages that you're taking um and you know like trend is like 1 of those. It's like you really. You really should be not um, taking so much trend because it's so harsh in your fucking liver and there's this whole joke like oh I'm going to take like five hundred Milligrams of trend it's like dude like 15200 is like like the sweet spot for most guys and on top of that you really shouldn't be taken. Anyways, it's like 1 of those were like most bodybuilders will agree is like. Kind of not worth it so something to keep in mind.

35:18.88

christophknoll

It's the it's the it's the mentality where um, when if you miss a meal you you package all your meals together and that way you still hit your calorie total if you miss a day of of trend. You're going to do it all the next day

35:33.97

Paul

Yeah, yeah, exactly like that just shit like that shit just doesn't make any sense. There's there's another common misconception which I'll let you talk about in a second um or talk about whatever you want in a second. Ah but ah is that just because you missed a meal doesn't necessarily mean you need to pack it on later. Like don't just shove 3 meals together because you're going to fuck your digestion. Your digestion is not used to digesting a bowling ball worth a fucking food. So don't do that to yourself if you miss a meal then you miss a meal and just write it down. You don't need to make up for it later you missed a meal. It is what it is. It's not the end of the world. You know so.

36:07.82

christophknoll

I'll I'll certainly add a little bit of food if I'm if I miss a meal just for but but I won't do you know a ton like I'm not going to package together 3 meals like Paul just said like sometimes I'll do. You know if I miss my what often happens is I don't make my first meal because I teach and so when I wake up as early as I do I'm just not able to make that first meal. Um and that first meal really isn't all that much. It's between 2 and 4 eggs 2 pieces of toast seated. Bread toast. Um and some oatmeal which really isn't a lot so ah, in terms of the food that I'm actually eating though like it gives me a lot of good macros to start the day but in terms of actual food I'm digesting. It's not all that much so I will often throw that on. When I get back from work before the gym or maybe after the gym something like that and just throw the food on then um and that way I'm able to package it together but like if I miss like you know that meal and then my lunch meal or my you know second meal. Whatever you want to call it. And then package all that together. Yeah, no, that's going to absolutely obliterate my digestion and not just you know consuming it but also pushing it out the other end that is just a big oof. So how definitely do not want to package it together like that. Um, but you know if it's 1.

37:36.17

christophknoll

Small meal like that first one I was saying like my first meal is such a it give me good macros to start the day but it's a small amount of food. So I'll package that on at the end of the day we're with another meal later on. But yeah, no bowling balls being put in my system.

37:53.67

Paul

Yeah I mean if you're if you need to make up for a meal. Um like you want to make up for a meal, especially if you're writing your own meal plans. You know people will try to like because there's this whole joke with like my fitness power right? where it's like oh I didn't take in my. Calorie count and it's eleven fifty nine and I have to get in two thousand calories and it's like a plate of just peanut butter like just like just like with a spoon like and then there's another one where it's like when it's it's so like it was it was funny and there's another one that's similar where it's like when it's 5 p m.

38:21.51

christophknoll

Ah.

38:27.46

Paul

And you've already eaten all your calories but you want cereal really bad and it's like water with ice and he's got ah in a bowl and with a spoon There's like 1 calorie left in my fittness pal. Um, but if you really if you miss out on a meal. The trick I think one of the things that people really really neglect is ah egg whites. So. Just have some egg whites I drink it um just drink a couple gus of gulps of egg whites. Um, it's not going to make up for meal. I mean it's not something that I do often. But like if you need to um, take a couple gulps of egg whites that'll get some protein in your system. Um, and then you can get onto your next meal because then that way like. Your body's not just digesting necessarily a solid food. It's digesting more of like a liquid but then you get a lot of protein from it kind of like a protein chi you could have like a way isolate. You know if you miss a meal have a way isolate or something like that to make up for the protein at least. But if you miss a lot of carbs and a lot of fat just don't don't even bother. It's too much in your system.

39:08.39

christophknoll

Yeah.

39:22.41

christophknoll

What's your protein shake looking like just strike egg whites.

39:25.12

Paul

No, but like legit though like there's times where this happened the other day I forget what day it was I went to go to the gym I think it was yesterday actually I went to go to the gym in the morning and I was going to work make some money afterwards. So I needed to make sure that I had a meal afterwards to eat. Before I went to work and so was like shit I got to prioritize my chicken for that. So I prioritized my chicken for that and only had about 2 three ounces left so what I did was I just had egg whites instead of chicken. It's not the best. It's not the best replacement but at least I'm getting in the protein that I need and egg white digestion is is relatively quick. Um.

39:53.28

christophknoll

Yeah.

40:03.62

Paul

So you you don't need to necessarily worry about like taking forever to digest like steak or beef does ah where with chicken. It's it's pretty quick. So egg whites is a good option for that at least, um, you know something to keep in mind at least for when you're trying to make up for meals. It just It's not good for your digestion is what I'm saying and I've done it in the past where. I would go a whole day. You know there's one period where I had five meals a day with my previous coach and there's times where I'd have 2 meals but then I'd be like you know working all day and and I don't have time to eat so when I get home I'd have three meals at once and legit like two Thousand Two Thousand five hundred calories of like clean food which is a shit ton.

40:40.42

christophknoll

That's sometimes what's going on with me. Yeah.

40:40.42

Paul

And I'd be fucking gagging. Yeah so I would just avoid that if you could um because it's not good for you necessarily if you have a big meal planned and you know you're getting full whatever that's 1 thing but like combining meals that you normally eat on regular basis. Just really isn't as effective as you think it is um. And like at the time I was eating like spaghetti and steak and all this shit that was like tasty because we're just trying to get into the gym and like build a good foundation and I was fucking like trying to like finish my food like I was like eating spaghetti which is my one of my favorite meals and I'm fucking gagging just waiting for it to be over fucking eating steak.

41:15.49

christophknoll

And yep.

41:18.65

Paul

Ate some good old rump steak that I got from a local farm I missed that farm and then what you need to go to you need to drive down a fucking athholl and go to that farm and yes steak. Um, and then ah eating spaghetti just gagging try not to throw it up. It's so bad force feeding sucks so bad then you got a rock sit in your stomach for the rest of the night so

41:24.33

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

41:36.77

christophknoll

Yep well part of that is pain which is another one of the myths that I was a big subscriber to um, but if you aren't feeling pain then you aren't progressing in the gym or you're not reaching hypertrophy.

41:37.62

Paul

It's a bitch.

41:52.56

christophknoll

Which isn't true because pain isn't what you're going for. You're going for. You know, stressing the muscle. But if you reach pain then you're kind of messing yourself up like obviously there's we've talked about pushing past the pain barrier for like training legs or something like that. That's just. Mentally getting past a pain barrier If you're actually hurting yourself in the gym. That's not how you should be handling it. So The fact of the matter is if you're feeling Pain. You're probably messing up your form to like especially on like deadlifts or something where your form is so crucial.

42:17.00

Paul

Yeah.

42:22.79

Paul

Up.

42:29.55

christophknoll

If you're feeling that lower back pain. You're probably messing up the form and it's not something you should continue to do at the weight that you're doing.

42:36.78

Paul

Right? And here's the thing too is that when it comes to in quotations pain. There's a difference between burning and pain. Um, when a muscle burns. It's supposed to you're building up lactic acid and it's going to burn. But when your.

42:43.81

christophknoll

Exactly.

42:54.25

Paul

Causing pain to your joints. That's not good I caused pain to my joints the other day because I went too high intenses on my squats and the second I felt pain in my knee I fucking called it I'm like that's not supposed to happen. So I'm not going to keep Lifting. Could I have done more reps Absolutely fucking lutely. But am I going to keep doing reps no because I'm not going to do anything I'm not gaining anything by just destroying my knee. You know what? I mean? Um, so like that's also that's also going to stem from like the difference between power lifters as well and bodybuilders is that like a lot of them push through pain.

43:17.10

christophknoll

Yeah.

43:31.62

Paul

And there are joints to get a lift up for a Pr um, because that's how they measure their success in the gym as a pr ah where with bodybuilding it's it's not about the pr it's about having a proper efficient workout. Um. And then that also like really segues really well into another topic which is um, you you didn't have a good workout if you're not sore um or you like you need to be sore after a workout for you to know that it was like you actually gain muscle or you're going to be gain muscle and that's not the reality. That's so it's so far from the truth. Um, soreness.

44:06.26

christophknoll

If you can't if you can lift your arm after arm day you have failed if you can carry any groceries at all, you have failed.

44:13.94

Paul

It like people talk about like if you're a grip if you can grip your sneeering wheel you failed. Um, yeah, there's a whole misconception with that. Ah. Where with arms. Especially if you can't lift your arms. It's because you just got a crazy pump which it's happened to me plenty of times and you shouldn't necessarily be chasing the pump either. You shouldn't be measuring your your workout based off how good your pump is um. Yes, blood flow is one of the attributes of a good workout but you don't want to be focusing on the pump if you get a good pump from your workout. Great If not doesn't mean you didn't get a good workout in um and when you can't lift your arms that just means you're like you just got such a crazy pump that it just burns to lift your arms. That's really all it comes down. You just still lift your arms. Um, but it's just that's just how it works. Ah, if you're still Mobile. You should just stop. Um, just cut it out. Just go home. But like yeah yeah, no, but for me, it's.

45:04.75

christophknoll

If you still have limbs after working out you have failed.

45:15.51

christophknoll

The gym's not for you.

45:22.69

Paul

I face a problem with pumps actually pretty frequently. Um, my coach is in the I think he's kind of in the same place. He he told me that I should be doing this and I I did it once? Anyways, um I learned the hard way that um the reason I get nauseous and throw up. From lifting for legs is because I get too gnarly of a pump in my quads to keep going so my problem is is that my quads get such a pump from blood flow that. So for those that don't know the reason you puke from lifting is because you get so much blood flow in another part of your body. The first place it's going to pull from for that blood is your digestion. It's going to pull from your digestion in order to help with the blood flow on that muscle because what your body is doing is is going into flight or fight mode right? So if you see like if you see like um runners right? Marathon runners to train a lot of them end up puking right. A lot of them like anybody who like interval trains they end up puking because their body thinks that they're fighting. It's fighting for its life and it's either in fight mode or flight mode so it dispels everything it doesn't need which is through the puke. Ah, and. Puts it towards what you need. So if you're gonna be running. It's gonna go towards your legs if you're doing like interval training. It's gonna be your back or whatever if it thinks you're climbing something whatever it is so for me, my quads get such a pump so fast. So easily I can't actually take a pre-workout because if I do after legit one movement I'll start puking.

46:52.30

Paul

Because it's just too much of a pump and that's what happened a couple weeks ago I had a very bad light day because I start with a warmup of of light curls and I had my normal preric out because I'm like this doesn't have to back checkck a little bit. What I thought it was was alpha yohiine that was causing me to puke. So. New period cut I got from icon one doesn't have Alpha Yohibean or youoimbean in general. So it's like alright, let me give this a shot. Let me see what happens worst possible situation I learn something new. So I go to the gym I do light curls perfectly fine I get a good good start. Good warmup. Not really to failure. I get it to hack squats and I do like Tom Plat's inspired hack squats all Quad focused. You know, nice low stance of the machine. My knees are going almost to the fucking platform like way past my toe is just destroy my quads after I'm done that I start set up like press for my glutes and like. I have to like double over because I'm going to fucking throw up and I actually ended up leaving the gym and left all the way on the fucking leg press because I'm like if I do if I focus on lifting anymore I'm going to fucking puke everywhere. So it's a problem for me. So that's when pumps can actually be a problem is that it pulls away from your digestion and you end up puking.

47:45.10

christophknoll

Oof.

47:50.98

christophknoll

Yeah.

48:00.30

Paul

So that's something to keep in mind when you are going for a pump is that you might end up puking. It's possible. But.

48:04.99

christophknoll

If you still have anything left inside. You have failed.

48:11.30

Paul

that's a Tom Platts dude that's Tom Platt's he I'd rather rather die than leave the gym a loser I'm like fuck not me I'd rather live but all right. That's all sentence you wanted. That's on you.

48:18.27

christophknoll

Ah.

48:24.30

christophknoll

I'm taking the I'm taking the L and being a loser.

48:27.76

Paul

Yeah I will gladly be a loser and live to see another day but it's all just minds that obviously he's not gonna die. Um, nobody's gonna kill him if he has a bad workout. But um, yeah, it's just it's ah it's a mindset to have It can also be very toxic so be careful of.

48:40.45

christophknoll

Yeah.

48:44.56

Paul

Those mindsets I am glad though that the we go gym phase is kind of over that shit was tar or yeah, yeah, we go gym. It's them from one video where the guide is yelled. We go Jim in the camera face and played hard hard style. Um.

48:49.73

christophknoll

Jim Jim was spelled j I m for that we go Jim.

48:58.91

christophknoll

Yeah.

49:04.52

Paul

It was cool while it lasted and then it just got like the high school kids kind of took it over and it like okay now I'm over it. It's all these kids got to ruin everything first. It was like fortnite they had to ruin that shit then it was like among us and they had to ruin that shit and I was like yeah they ruin ruin the gym. Yeah.

49:10.34

christophknoll

Yep, ah.

49:16.88

christophknoll

Then they ruin bench press. What's next.

49:23.31

Paul

Like there's this video I saw recently and it was like um when the we go gym. Kids are at the bench and this guy who like walks over and there's a big pad on the bench and perric out spilled all over it and he was like yo who's using this and then ah he like turns around is playing hard style and this dude's got like.

49:32.52

christophknoll

Jesus.

49:38.92

Paul

Ah, elbow wrap like half undone. He's got a belt on like a black wife beater and shit and it's like it was like the we go gym kids like trying to take their bench back because they come in locks of like 4 or 5 and just hog the bench for 3 hours and don't actually get in a good workout because they rest for so long in between sets and not actually doing anything.

49:58.37

christophknoll

Yeah, ah.

49:59.28

Paul

Yeah I just it got so toxic so fast and I think that might be part of the reason why I kind of bounceed out of elite was because there was a school bus that was stop at elite drop off like legit like five six kids um but I will give one I will give prop to 1 kid a redhead kid who is skinny. He's still kind of skinny less I on but he was the only one who'd show up on the weekends. Um, he was the only 1 ever shot ever saw on a regular basis. Um, so he was the one who is the most serious ah where during the weekdays his friends would show up but then the weekends I'd see him I'm like all right I got respect for you. But ah yeah, that's a different ball. That's a different conversation. But.

50:30.49

christophknoll

Yeah.

50:36.54

Paul

Yeah, it's just um and then also I'm oh okay, who oh here's a big one. Okay, oh dude, this is a big one is ah the whole common misconception where your prework out is more effective if you dry scoop it. Oh.

50:43.65

christophknoll

He's charging up.

50:52.43

christophknoll

Oh my God I hate this one I have the I have some of the most respect for this one girl that works out in the area I do and she is an absolute unit in the gym I have some of the most respect for her also as a person too.

50:56.39

Paul

Hate us shit whoa.

51:06.54

Paul

Is a.

51:11.85

christophknoll

But she dry scoops sometimes and she'll post it and it takes everything in me not to comment What the hell are you doing what? what? the hell even is that.

51:19.51

Paul

Ah, yeah, what the hell even is that with daddy chill. What the hell wait What was he? what is it? What the hell is even that yeah daddy chill ah is so dumb though it just it it.

51:25.88

christophknoll

Did they were what the hell even is that.

51:37.25

Paul

1 goes to show the lack of knowledge because your take so long. Basically.

51:41.30

christophknoll

Water the the water in the what water does for is it allows it to flow into your throughout your body and connect with your bloodstream if you dry scoop it you're forcing just whatever moisture molecules you have in your mouth to do that job for you like.

51:57.18

Paul

Yeah, yeah, it's it. It just doesn't so okay, if you read any label on any prework out they say to have 8 to twelve ounces of water 16 However, big the scoop is 15 at 30 minutes prior to working some of them say 20 some of them say 40 Whatever it is.

51:59.52

christophknoll

That's like the C sentiment challenge. You're going to gag.

52:09.60

christophknoll

Yeah.

52:17.00

Paul

There's a reason that those are the directions because what it's supposed to do the best. Okay so the best way to take your peer work out right? This is the best way to take it. This is from my experience I don't do it this way I don't prep my peerric cut but the best way to take it is in my opinion is you want to make your peerric out in ah in a like relatively big. Jug of water. Whatever like like a um, full size blender bottle right? That's like sixteen ounces or whatever make it in that shake it up. You know shake it up a few times put it in the fridge put it to the side. Whatever for like a day right? So like make it for tomorrow or something right? Let that sit for a while then shake it like once when you wake up and then shake it before your.

52:39.37

christophknoll

Yep.

52:54.27

Paul

Before you actually plan on going to the gym that way the per cow is insanely dissolved like just completely gone. There's no powder left. It's just all liquid. Ah, and the reason you want it to be dissolved is because your body's going to digest it better. Your body doesn't digest powders. It just doesn't ah, it's very I mean it does but it takes a lot longer. And you want this to be in your system. So for me my drive to the gym is about 12 to 14 minutes depending on traffic. So I make sure my my period cut dissolved I drink it and then I head to the gym where this dry scoop and thing is they dry scoop it they're like oh it hits you instantly and it's like yeah you might get like somewhat of like a caffeine rush. Because it's literally being absorbed by your by your glands and your mouth your moisture like your actual like glands your saliva glands. It's like smoking a cigar or cigarette. Whatever like yeah, you'll feel it because it's beat absorbed by your mouth but it's not going to last so you're going to get this caffeine rush and there's going to be gone. Um, so you want to take it and then head to the gym and then start. Like you don't be taking it in the the parking lot of the gym either I hate that shit they take it they drive scoop it in the parking lot and then fucking head in. It's like dude you should be lifting like start lifting like twenty thirty minutes after you took it. You know so I hate that shit a shit. So annoying I hate dry scoopers.

54:07.94

christophknoll

Yep, and it's it's It's just frustrating to see too because you're if you're in the gym. You generally speaking if you and we're going to say outside of Pf generally speaking when you go to the gym you you have an understanding of what you're there to do. And when you see some dumb shit like that that just like that that will put me in a negative mind space when I'm in the gym because I'm I'm going to be thinking about it I'm like why is this person doing this so you're you're going to be affecting others as Well. You think it looks Cool. It doesn't.

54:29.25

Paul

And.

54:40.58

christophknoll

It really does not look cool. It's just like this I mentioned earlier the cinnamon challenge. It doesn't look cool.

54:48.45

Paul

it's yeah it's not you're not hardcore like it. It was like this whole thing where it's like oh you're like badass if you could drive scori ri out and you're not you look like an idiot and especially the first few times you tried it. You definitely like fucking cough and have like a dust powder come out like like I imagine that and makes me happy like a cloud of pure work out. Just.

54:59.80

christophknoll

Yeah.

55:06.27

Paul

Just like comes out and like messes up your car. That's that's what I imagine and if you get pure cow powder anywhere. It's sticky. Trust me, it's sticky.

55:08.45

christophknoll

I Where do you get? where do you get your pre-workout. Oh I Secondhand smoke my pre-workout from people who cough it. But.

55:16.69

Paul

Yeah, that's goodnna. That's good to be a thing. Dude you smoke I roll it up in a joint smoke my pure go That's gonna be a thing I'm sure people have snorted shit too I'm sure.

55:23.80

christophknoll

Oh my God That's like that's like the video of Theovan he's like my favorite kind of weed it was cocaine.

55:34.48

Paul

Yeah Heo Vo is a different different animal though. 1 of my favorite clips ever which I've seen in gym memes is like this like when you're walking to the gym. There's nobody there. It's like oh yes, just makes you want to kick a fat kid at Kmart you know I'm saying praise god.

55:46.98

christophknoll

Yeah game art blows up. Yeah.

55:54.17

Paul

Like yeah thus perfectly encapsulates what it feels like just makes you want to kick a fat kid at Kmart like it just ah, fucking perfect praise praise god yeah I know I love theovo he's so he's he like he's right on the line of like is he serious or is this a character like.

56:00.91

christophknoll

Praise godbaby my God ah.

56:13.72

Paul

Like he's either very mentally fucked up or he's a phenomenally Genius Comedian There is no in-between um, but I think it kind of bleeds over I think he does both I think he's both.

56:17.94

christophknoll

Yeah, well there and yeah, he he did a I mean one of the times when he was on Rogan he talked about going to the gym and his thoughts on the gym are just so funny because he said eat though some wild takes out there I can't.

56:34.47

Paul

What was it that he was saying like do you didn't do you remember anything.

56:37.65

christophknoll

I Can't think of any off the top my head but I remember sitting there listening to it being like what is this dude talking about.

56:43.89

Paul

Yeah, yeah, he is. He's funny. He's he's a comedian. he's he's he's a character. Um, but he did ah he did smelling salts on the Joe Rogan podcast and he did it a few times he's like he he kind of liked it I remember that I was a while ago but um.

56:53.83

christophknoll

Yep.

57:00.48

christophknoll

Well, he would he like was keeling over from it and they're both him and rogan are recovering and then you just hear Rogan go bro. Don't do it again and he's actively hitting it again. Ah.

57:12.27

Paul

He's a he's a fucking animal. He's an animal. Um, but yeah, he's he's funny. Um, let's see let's see what's another like common misconception. Yeah, go ahead.

57:21.85

christophknoll

I Got a big one. Um that you will I mean we talked about this before as well. But you will only lose weight from cardio like if you increase cardio you will lose more weight. But yeah.

57:30.87

Paul

Yeah, it's It's a tool to help you get there. But it's not going to be your main tool. It's going to help but that's it.

57:39.78

christophknoll

It's like if you were if you were if you were trying to dig a hole all right? If you're trying to dig a hole you can use your hands that would be like going to the gym if you take like a little little toy shovel. That's your diet. And then you get an actual shovel and there's your cardio. All of it builds together to dig that hole but you got to do all of them to actually be able to you know, do it.

58:00.85

Paul

Yeah, you could even look at it like this. It's like like okay you got like when it comes to losing weight you got like an excavator that's your fucking food like your food's gonna be the biggest thing then you got like like a shovel that's gonna be your weight training. Like lifting burns the most amount of calories then you got like a garden shovel and that's like your cardio. But like if you utilize all 3 of those things you can dig a pretty big hole pretty quick but it's not like you're going to make serious progress if you're just doing cardio or you're just doing weight training. You're just doing your food. Um, it's all of those in Conjunction. You know.

58:20.89

christophknoll

Yeah.

58:33.26

christophknoll

Yeah.

58:39.48

Paul

Um, and the other commonist conception with Cardia Two is that you lose muscle by doing cardio. It's not I even know who the fuck came up with that like where did that start like that doesn't even make any sense to me like there's no logic.

58:49.40

christophknoll

I Don't know I think I think what it comes from is that when you're like let's say you do running or even just intense walking for cardio you sweat a lot. And when you sweat a lot people correlate that with fat loss and I mean fat weighs more than you know other things in your body. So I think that's kind of where the mentality of I do cardio to lose weight comes from.

59:20.55

Paul

Yeah, yeah I mean Cardio is a tool and you know water losing water weight like that's another thing with Keto is that like a lot of people think that keto starts working right away and it's like no a lot of it's water actually a lot of your water. A lot of your weight that you're dropping is water. Um. And then Cardio is just an extra tool to to add more calorie deficit like a more of a caloric Deficit. So like no matter what like you should always be doing your weight training Cardio. You should so you should you utilize depending on the program you're doing um right now I'm doing cardio for health. But when I'm prepping for you know when I'm going to be prepping for a show I'm going to be doing a lot of cardio because my body like I hold on to I'm very carb sensitive and I hold onto food decently well which is good and bad thing. So for me I need to do more cardio in order to lose the weight. But it's not like I'm doing nothing else to do like to help with that like I'm going to be eating less I'm going to be training Hard. You know all of that. So. It's a tool but it's not going to be your entire solution. Um, and then that kind of leads to like just because the scale is changing or isn't changing doesn't necessarily mean you're losing weight or not losing weight. So like.

01:00:21.77

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:00:37.37

Paul

Or like losing fat I mean like just because the scale doesn't move doesn't necessarily mean you're losing Fat. You know when like for me if I put on muscle and lose fat I'm actually going to be gaining a little bit of weight because Muscle Weighs heavier than Fat. So like yes on the scale doesn't look like I'm losing fat. But if you look in the mirror. You'll see the difference. You know the mirror is going to be your biggest your biggest help when it comes to like whether or not losing fat. Um, the scale is just a way of judging it. Scale. The scale doesn't necessarily mean everything. It's all about what's in the mirror and that's how I know that I'm putting on a lot of mass right now is that like I'm not even my heaviest I've ever been. But as far as like actual. Muscle content. It's it's pretty.. It's pretty high in comparison to the past. So. That's how I know that I've put on the muscle. Um, so the scale is not going to be everything you know your scale is not going to tell you whether or not, you're losing anything.

01:01:17.19

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:01:27.11

christophknoll

Well also with the mirror to and I think this kind of I didn't see it on any of the lists but ah like consistently you know, weighing or taking picture like progress picks like every day or something like that like. Are the last person to see the change in ourselves. So having a second set of eyes really helps like for example, Paul has his wife. So if I'm I'm sure there's times when you're like do you notice changes between these 2 pictures or something like that and you utilize that second set of eyes to see if there is noticeable growth that way.

01:01:45.33

Paul

But.

01:01:59.23

Paul

Yeah.

01:02:01.20

christophknoll

Um, so that you when you when you take these pictures. It's to help you and it yeah like Paula saying it's more noticeable that way for your progress that you're trying to do because when people say like so often we hear I go to the gym because I want to lose weight. And they say that because they think that weight directly correlates with how they look which is not at all how it is like when I have my middle school as I teach and they're like hey you're in the gym tell me how to lose weight I ask them? Why do you want to lose weight and the only people I'll give advice for how to lose weight are people who are like.

01:02:24.10

Paul

Man.

01:02:39.77

christophknoll

And be able to athletically run faster or something like that so that kind of thing would need some kind of weight loss whereas when someone goes I don't like how I look I respond with that isn't real I mean it it maybe 50% but it's not.

01:02:43.93

Paul

Um, yeah.

01:02:57.53

christophknoll

Directly correlated to weight you have to do other things like you can turn what you have into muscle and then you'll just look really good. You don't you don't have to lose that size.

01:03:06.40

Paul

Yeah, and I mean when you're when you're targeting like morbidly obese weight typically does kind of translate into fat loss. But it's not like you losing £100 of weight you're losing other things as well as on top of fat like you're losing water weight. Um, and you're probably gaining a little bit of muscle as well. So. Just because somebody lost one hundred pounds that's a pretty big difference like it's not just £100 of fat. You know you're doing a lot more than that. So um, that's a pretty big like number to be talking about um, losing £10 of fat is a fucking shit ton like because fat cells are also full of a lot of water.

01:03:40.78

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:03:45.50

Paul

So they're very light so when you lose £10 of fat. That's a shit ton like that's so like depending on like for the average person £10 of fat is a lot. Um and what's funny is that I think it's the fda I forget who it is. There's there's basically this saying that. The amount of fat in your body that would be ideal is the size of an apple. Um, that's that that's what they say is that if you take all your fat throughout your body and combine it into an apple or like to a ball. It should be about the size of an apple um, which is kind of interesting to think about because I mean I don't.

01:04:07.96

christophknoll

Ah, ah.

01:04:21.41

Paul

Necessarily think that that's like 100% accurate because weight is so light I think that's only like a couple pounds of fat and we need. We do need a certain percentage of body fat to properly regulate our hormones for guys. It's 4% I think women it's like 12% um but it's like.

01:04:35.87

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:04:40.66

Paul

You know, losing losing weight is it's going to come off quick. So for me sitting at 2 a 2.7 right now if I could I'd love to step on stage like in the low one eighty s like I'll be really happy if I was like 83 84 stepping on stage in a very lean. Lean weight like lean look like if I could get down to 1 or 2 1 or 3 or hire and be stage ready I'd be very happy with that. So like that would take £20 of weight loss including water and I will lose some muscle in the process. That's part of the process. But that's where anabolics also helps come in is ah it helps you maintain. But um, it's not just fat. You're losing. It's also water and water is going to be like 5 £6 probably or even more of that is gonna be water when I step on stage. So really, my goal is to is really probably gonna end up being like 10 to £15 of fat at the end of the day. Um. Which is a decent amount. You know it's's it's going to make a big difference. So just because you're losing weight on the scale or not losing the weight. It doesn't necessarily correlate to how you look in the mirror and how you look in the mirror is going to be everything um and that's why we do weekly weigh-ins. That's why you and I both do weekly weigh-ins because we can actually see the differences from week to week. And see where we are at now versus where we are at back then um, it's like I lost weight this week for this way in. But I feel I've gotten a lot more size so something happened where I think I've lost some water maybe lost some fat. So um, it does.

01:06:08.59

Paul

Correlate You know the mirror is going to correlate.

01:06:09.14

christophknoll

See I'm not able to eat an Apple today because my mind when you said you should have and the amount of fat in your body equal to an Apple is thinking about an apple and biting in and it's just just fat pulled off of like a steak or something like that.

01:06:26.23

Paul

It's like um, ah I Love fatuntain steak though I'd be so like I don't want straight fat. But yeah I don't want straight fat but like yeah yeah, that would be that would be kind of garly that would be kind of gnarly. There are times where I have a whole bite of fat by action I'm like.

01:06:29.99

christophknoll

Ah, but just the fat. That's what I mean like you bind to the Apple and it's just straight fat. Ah.

01:06:43.24

Paul

Ah I just this taste so good. But it's so weird, but that's that's me a little fat.

01:06:46.81

christophknoll

I Yeah I mean I think that's also it's not on any of the lists. But when we ah when people get like steaks or actually it's It's mostly stake. Um and they see the fat on the side of it.

01:07:00.90

Paul

Beef.

01:07:01.45

christophknoll

Yeah, while certain cuts of beef like ground beef doesn't have it but I agree but I'm saying visible fat and people will cut that off and not cook it and just eat the meat. That's there and I'm like buddy you're missing out on some of the best part of the the.

01:07:03.31

Paul

Well, it has forgotten it? Yeah yeah.

01:07:19.60

Paul

Death.

01:07:20.45

christophknoll

Meal right? there like yes, it's not like nutrient wise as good as the actual meat that's there, but you're still getting stuff out of it. You still need fat levels. That's why if you see a steak and you like my fitness pal or something like that a steak has fat levels and I mean that's just from the fatty material That's on the meat.

01:07:34.82

Paul

Um, yeah.

01:07:39.75

christophknoll

And so you shouldn't be cutting that off, you should just be you know cooking it through eating it enjoying it because like Paul said like it's it's actually taste pretty good if you can cook it. Well.

01:07:50.72

Paul

Yeah, yeah, and it's it's it makes me upset if people cut off fat off stak because you can get if you really don't want the fat. You can get lean steak like without the fat like 1 of the more expensive ones is ah file a is is a pretty lean stak. Ah.

01:07:57.88

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:08:07.76

Paul

And it's very expensive. So it's like you could get like a really tasty lean steak but they got to get like ribeye and cut off the fucking fat or like Newark strip and cut off the strip. It's like dude that's the whole fucking point of the cut like you're ruining the whole point of that steak. Um, but I'm also like if you don't like to taste the fat. You just buy a different cut but I think also. When it comes to steak fat I think it's kind of like ah like a maturity thing like like you got to have it and when you give it a chance. You'll see how much flavor it can actually add to the steak because it adds so much flavor and if it's cooked properly. Obviously you don't want to undercook it. Um, you don't also want to overcook it because then have a burnt taste to it. But.

01:08:35.12

christophknoll

Yeah, absolutely.

01:08:45.34

Paul

Undercook it. It'll be like this weird powdery texture I You know how to explain it because I have um under cook steak and I eat bite into it and it's still so like it doesn't have that like juicy like rubber not really rubbery but like juicy gritty, not really gritty gristle kind of chew to it but like. When you undercook it. It's you're biting into I don't even know what how to explain it. It's just like fat like that's the only way I could fucking explain it? Um, but yeah, that's steak for you. Um, and see what's another myth we could talk about um, let's see stretching.

01:09:20.41

christophknoll

Oh yeah, that's a big one. Okay.

01:09:22.20

Paul

Um, yeah, stretching is another one. Ah when it comes to stretching I mean just because your stretch doesn't necessarily mean you're going to get a good workout or like you have to do it pre-workout I mean stretching is really not even like. Super super needed. It was. There's this whole comm misconception of stretching that like that's how you make your your muscles on sore and stuff and it's evolved from stretching to then using like one of those like um, those like the guns or whatever where like it vibrates you profassing your muscle like there's you just like? yeah.

01:09:45.26

christophknoll

Are muscle guns. Yeah.

01:09:58.00

Paul

Like it's just when it comes to Mobility training or just recovery simply walking and using proper form with your training is going to be enough. Um, yeah stretch if you want to here and there but it's not going to be like you don't need to do a pre-workout or post workout to have an effective workout.

01:10:15.66

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:10:17.79

Paul

Like I don't need I don't even go to the gym and limber up I don't I just go to the gym and just hit whatever muscle group I'm going for because by hitting it I limber up like when I go into um leg day I just go I do leg curls to warm up my my legs in general but like then I get into hack squad. It's not like I like do body weight hack squats or something um or like. Like body weight squats to warm up my legs I just go right into it. You know I start with my warm up set. You know have a warm up set that gets me ready for the movement and then I get into my actual working sets. So that's really all you need you don't actually need to be sitting there for 20 minutes and stretching.

01:10:51.35

christophknoll

And that actually applies for sports as well. I know athletically for um, for baseball At least you do warm Ups You. Don't do stretching because for your arm when you stretch the muscle. You actually. Tear the fibers a little bit and you end up making it weaker than it should be like if you want so a sustained game like for example, you're throwing an arm you do warmup motions which you know you start short. You do like some basic like arm flaps and then you go into some actual throwing you go.

01:11:11.89

Paul

Interesting.

01:11:26.38

christophknoll

Short throne long throw and you build up from there but the people who do full on stretching actually pulls the arm and makes it so that it can't produce the same or can't exert the same amount of force as it would if you were to do the warm up style so just like in the gym. We do our warm ups. We don't do our. Like quote unquote stretching like for example, my coach has me do 2 to 3 minutes of medium intensity bike work I just hop on a bike and I do 2 to 3 minutes of that for you know I don't even sweat sometimes when I do it because it's just to get my entire body warmed up because.

01:11:59.87

Paul

Ah.

01:12:05.30

christophknoll

When you when you bike biking is great to warm up your whole body because even though it is only your legs. It's pulling blood from everywhere else. You're sweating from everywhere else if you do that it takes a lot on your cardio system because you have to breathe a lot. Um. So that's just a great way to warm up into it and then you go in and like Paul said you have a warm up set which isn't body weight. It's whatever your starting weight is going to be because you do warm up sets before you get to your working sets. That's that's how progressive overload works for us in the gym.

01:12:35.58

Paul

Yeah, yeah, it's just that's all, you're really going to need and and like and the other thing too is if you're putting on size especially when it comes to anabolics. You're going to lose some mobility. It's going to happen. You're going to lose some flexibility. Your muscles are going to gain size. And it's going to make you harder for you to to move the way that you used to? Um, so if you want to stay Limber and stay flexible and stuff then maybe muscle size isn't what you need to be going for. Um, but like that's why like you talk to anybody who's massive. They'll say that it it feels like they're moving around like they're obese like because they just have so much muscle. Moving around so much weight and they're so big that it's hard to fit into regular seasonship but it's muscle. It's not fat. Um, it's a different It's a different problem to have um but it's it's the same kind of thing. It's just just because you're not mobile or like as as flexible as you were isn't. Ah, bad thing. You're you're putting on size and more size means that you're going to be less flexible. It's just how the human body works. Um, you know if you have gigantic bioceps. You're not going to be able to bend your arm as much That's why it's.

01:13:37.74

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:13:45.24

Paul

The bigger arms you get and the bigger Back. You get the Harder. It is to scratch your back or try to reach your on to your back because you're just building more muscle and that applies to everything else. So stretching isn't necessarily like going to give you more muscle gains or like really help you in any way it can actually mess things up. Um, stretching before workout can actually you can actually damage joints and shit prior to even lifting and that's why I Also think that like guys take it too far with rotator cuff stretches prior to like a shoulder day or something because you end up fucking your rotator cuff like you don't want to be doing hypertrophy with your fucking rotator cuffs Bro. It's a joint like.

01:14:05.50

christophknoll

Um.

01:14:21.94

christophknoll

I want to have instead of 2 rotator cuffs I want 3

01:14:23.22

Paul

Maybe stretching it for a second. Yeah yeah, it's I want to go to build by rotator cuffs up I want to get bigger rotator cuffs. It just doesn't make any sense like these guys go up to a cable machine and do like 10 minutes of rotator cuff warm up I'm like bro stretching your shoulders up. With your arm for a second It's like enough you got to do that's like all you really got to do and then just get into the movements like on a shoulder day. You're going to be doing enough taxing your rotator cuffs that they're going to be opening up like don't worry about it. You're fine. Um, so that's also when that kind of upsets me to is the push for rotator cuff warmups. Um.

01:14:52.40

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:15:02.10

Paul

A bit annoying. Um, but another one Id get into which we talked about really heavily one day was um was how women think that lifting heavy weights will make them more masculine bulk them up. Not the case. Not the case you will not look more masculine.

01:15:11.89

christophknoll

Imagine not wanting to be physically fit because you're scared. You're going to turn into a dude.

01:15:22.95

Paul

Yeah, exactly like look at like bikini models or like bikini competitors or like women's wellness like they lift pretty heavyweights, especially women's wellness and it's just as feminine as anybody else, you don't mean like as any other woman like it's's you're not just going to become a dude just because you lift weight. Um.

01:15:40.74

Paul

So It's just that's also a common misconception as well For women for guys. Obviously it's not ah, it's not a worry but um for women, it Definitely absolutely is um, another one too for men is that um, isolate movements are better for building Muscle. And that's not always the case as Well. Um.

01:16:00.73

christophknoll

That yeah that that stems back to like the cardio weight loss thing because it's It's not the only thing it's it's built it builds into everything else.

01:16:09.22

Paul

Yes, yeah, it's something to use in conjunction with compound movements. Um the best Some of the best leg movements ever Invented squats hack squat. You know all of that The like press are compound movements.

01:16:13.94

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:16:24.25

Paul

Ah, where they work multiple muscles at once you're going to have one muscle group that's more emphasized but you're going to be hitting other things at the same time and you know hitting something isolating something and hitting it will it help absolutely but also isolate movements. Are on the more advanced side I think I think that if you're beginner you? Yeah yeah.

01:16:41.55

christophknoll

I Think form wise because if you mess up the form on an isolate your you've basically reduced it to not actually working what you want it to whereas with a compound movement if you mess up the form a little bit. You're still going to target something.

01:16:56.47

Paul

Yeah, you're still going to actually do a proper rip but isolate if you're not hitting the 1 thing you're trying to isolate then there's no point in doing it. Um, but with compound movements and isolate movements isolate is is on the more advanced side because of that. So if you're on the beginner. Such intermediate side. Compound is generally the more way to go. Um, when getting started in the gym and when getting when getting comfortable um, and understanding how the human body works and then you can kind of dive into like isolate sprinkling it in um and a lot of it's going to come down to trial and error. And what your body responds to the best I know plenty of guys who like for me I lean more machine for a lot of movements for my my entire body. Um, but that's just because that's just what my body agrees to the most where I know plenty of guys who they only need free weights and they. Fucking bulk up and the second they touch machines they they don't really do anything. It's like it doesn't really help them so it just depends on your body and you just got to adjust accordingly and that's why machinery is so important to me ah is because my body responds very very well to machines. It's just the way I work and obviously I do free weightight and cable movements and plenty of each. But. Would say good 60% of what I do is probably machinery It's just how it works for me just because it's isolated the muscle doesn't necessarily mean I'm getting more muscle. It's just how I respond to it. You know how I lift is not going to be the exact same how somebody else lifts you know it's all going to come down to trial and error. So.

01:18:11.30

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:18:26.63

christophknoll

And we've we've talked about so often on this on this podcast listening to your body like I think that was on the first like 10 episodes? Yeah, like first 10 episodes at the minimum. We we talked about just listen to your body because.

01:18:28.91

Paul

That's another common expansion.

01:18:33.85

Paul

Every day pretty much.

01:18:39.87

Paul

Yeah, yeah, exactly and your body is going to tell you what it needs and what it likes. Ah so if your body doesn't like compound movements. You know this is also after some time in the gym like you've been in there for bit. You've done both compound isolate you.

01:18:42.54

christophknoll

We'll give you all this information. You just have to listen.

01:18:59.30

Paul

Try it out different kinds of things if you go back to like compound movement for something and you notice that you haven't gained as much as before then go back to your Isolate. You know? Um I've gone for me I've got all my workouts dialed into the exact same movements pretty much every single day as the previous week. So like that's why I don't want to list with anybody anymore. Honestly, at this point is because I'm very particular on how I lift and what I lift. Ah, it's just what works for me so you should be getting to the same place. Ideally, you know everybody who lift should be getting to the same place if you live with someone then figure out a routine that works best for both of you guys and you can build proper muscle off that. You know, but obviously everybody doesn't live the same way I've liveded with people in the past and i' fuck up my shoulder because they lift more intense than I do and do a lot less reps. So My body's not used to that. But then I lift on my own and I have no problems I'm gaining plenty and all that and other people live with me and they don't like how I Lift. It's just the way it goes. It's just. You got to listen to your body and do what works for you and just because it's isolat doesn't necessarily mean you're going to gain more muscle from it. So um, that's another common Misconception. Um.

01:20:03.56

christophknoll

Now Paul for ah for listening to your body Paul if I worked out today can I go eat a big pizza a whole bunch of fries.

01:20:10.98

Paul

Ma.

01:20:14.70

christophknoll

And then a whole bunch of chicky tenders that were fried in some nice oil. Can I just eat whatever I want but Paul I did good today I did 30 minutes of stair master.

01:20:18.41

Paul

No no, you cannot. Then there's just go ahead and just forget you did all that after eating that shit you just made all that fucking Useless. It's that's also another one too is that just because you put in the work doesn't mean you get to eat. However, you want.

01:20:35.64

christophknoll

Ah, have you seen have you seen the video. Um ah the influencer's name is like Tennyson or something like that and he does the yeah, it's it's ah it's there's a myth for um, a half hour after you finish your lift, you're allowed to eat anything you want and ah.

01:20:43.82

Paul

Yeah Bolt tennyson.

01:20:55.56

christophknoll

Doesn't impact your your actual physique or like your yeah yeah, yeah.

01:20:58.73

Paul

That was the ah the the what's it called hypertrophy window or whatever. It's called the anabolic window and abolic window where you needed to eat within a half hour or also wouldn't you wouldn't have gained anything from the gym. That's also yeah.

01:21:09.45

christophknoll

Well it was it was that you could eat anything in the first half hour so he was like running to like chick-fil-a after his workout. Yeah in in terms of like we talk about it all the time.

01:21:16.54

Paul

That's yeah, that's that's a common misconception that should not be a thing.

01:21:28.10

christophknoll

The gym is almost secondary to how important our diet is so if you truly want to achieve the gains that you're interested in the diet comes first. You have to have that locked in so that's that's kind of where these myths kind of come from is that people looking for.

01:21:38.42

Paul

Are.

01:21:47.60

christophknoll

Shortcuts because I think the gym is what makes the person fit or whatever like I saw a post today about a woman who's petitioning that overweight people should get free extra seats on airplanes because it's discriminatory discriminatory if. It's if they don't get it and. 1 of the comments was like or you could just focus on yourself and someone said imagine thing or it was like is not everyone has access to a gym and I'm sitting there going her. It's not in the gym you achieve that from the dieting like come on man.

01:22:15.33

Paul

Yeah, it's the food you eat. Yeah, it's always the food you eat, You can lose weight without going to the gym if you just eat properly, especially if you're big enough. Yeah yeah, and if you're big enough. You don't even necessarily need to change the entire way you eat just take out shit. That's bad for you.

01:22:23.70

christophknoll

Yeah, absolutely and you can gain weight the same way. Yeah.

01:22:34.34

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:22:35.70

Paul

And that'll be enough. You know like it's there's there's so much you can do before you ever step in the gym ah to lose weight and I hate that shit you just be like oh I need 2 seats on the airplane and now I have to pay double yeah because you're taking up 2 seats like.

01:22:41.25

christophknoll

Absolutely.

01:22:50.71

christophknoll

Yep, that it's not the Airlines fault that you're the your that size. Yeah.

01:22:55.11

Paul

You can directly change that it's like height is a different story but it's like it's like going to ah like a roller coaster ride or something and being like super tall and it's like Wow you guys can't accommodate for Me. It's like dude it was fucking built for like. The average person like from the vast majority of people like yeah it can be cramped in Planes. It's all genetics I have no control over it and it's also racist diets are racist Yeah school is racist. All education is racist.

01:23:15.63

christophknoll

Um, but Paul but Paul isn't weight genetics.

01:23:23.56

christophknoll

Math is racist.

01:23:31.24

Paul

Inherently if you're white, you're racist too. Um, that's a new one. But um, yeah, it's it's just like it's granted airplanes can be tight absolutely but like think about it, you're so like Louis C K had a joke where he said you're sitting in a chair in the sky like.

01:23:32.60

christophknoll

Yep yep.

01:23:49.67

Paul

What are you complaining about like yeah you got to pay for 2 plane tickets because you're you're that big like you're you're that big. You have to pay for 2 plane tickets. That's a fucking problem. You know like you're so big. You can't put on your seat belt in your car. You have to sit in the back. That's a problem.

01:23:55.53

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:24:08.71

christophknoll

Yep.

01:24:09.52

Paul

So just because you decided to get to that point doesn't mean everybody else has to accommodate for you. Everybody like we you accommodate for the vast majority of people or the general public and then anybody outside of that you know obviously disabilities is a different ballgame. You know when you're talking about disabilities like wheelchair accessible stuff like that. It's a different different story. Um, you know they can't typically help that a lot of them are born that way that's a different story but like if you're if you decide to be so big. You need 2 airplane tickets then I don't really got any sympathy I mean you're you're there like you did it to yourself. You can change that anytime you want.

01:24:43.91

christophknoll

But Paul but Paul I didn't decide I just ate Kfc every meal for 3 years and this happened to me I'm big-boned.

01:24:53.53

Paul

It's my thyroid. They won't remove my thyroid. Yeah I just got bigger bones. It runs in my genetics My my parents like that which is another stupid fucking term I'm not scared of fat people I'm not.

01:25:01.18

christophknoll

And we're on our way to being canceled for being fat phobic.

01:25:10.70

christophknoll

Yeah, or it's I mean I wouldn't even I mean I know Phobic is ah like phobias our fears but Fat Phobic isn't like when people say you're fat Phobic in the gym like it's almost like they're claiming that you hate fat people too and I'm like I don't I just I think you could improve your your.

01:25:11.21

Paul

It's when you're.

01:25:25.35

Paul

Oh.

01:25:28.90

christophknoll

You're you know living if you just improved yourself. You know.

01:25:32.93

Paul

Yeah, your your actual?? Um, ah what's ah, what's the word. You're like your experience of life is better like your.. There's a word for it. Whatever it is. Um, we actually experience is going to be much more enjoyable. Ah because you could do more things and talk to anybody who was once very large and is now not very large and they'll tell you that life is so much better. Um, the experience of life is much much better. Ah, and yeah I hate that it's like I promote.

01:25:47.98

christophknoll

Um, yeah, absolutely.

01:26:06.68

Paul

Very large people to go to the gym like please go like like I would support you I'll help you like ask for advice. Whatever it is like ask for a spot. Whatever it is like we're all there for this for similar reasons you know? yeah I'll give you suggestions I Want to eat like I don't want the liability. But.

01:26:18.50

christophknoll

Hell I'll build your diet for you.

01:26:25.44

Paul

Um, yeah, it's just like it's it's wild. It's wild that that's how society is now man it's it's it's fucking crazy and we're already disadvantaged for being white genetically we are just oh yeah, but like.

01:26:38.73

christophknoll

Yep and straight white and straight. We're the worst brand right now.

01:26:43.57

Paul

Like physically like we are like generally if you're white, you're European and European descent does not necessarily promote a lot of muscle typically typically or like like an aesthetic physique. It just doesn't promote that it's just not how.

01:26:52.97

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:26:58.39

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:27:01.26

Paul

For hundreds and hundreds of years. We've been fat slobs like like you.

01:27:03.10

christophknoll

Man Why weren't we just born in the in the Hawaiian islands and got that incredible genetics.

01:27:09.38

Paul

Yes, so mo and just fucking pack on muscle like no tomorrow like or like asian like asian descent like if you're like from like Eastern Asia like you can just be yeah, just like just lean tiny as fuck waste just like super aesthetic. It's just how they are.

01:27:20.66

christophknoll

Mongolia.

01:27:25.26

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:27:28.72

Paul

Great to put on muscles a bitch but like that's why it's so fascinating to see you like a buff Asian It's like dude that's fucking sick. It's like seeing a unicorn. It's like fucking so rare. It's so rare. It's so sick. Um, but yeah, if you're if you have African descent. You just have amazing genetics like just athletically like athletically you just like.

01:27:33.12

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:27:47.13

Paul

Like look at like the top 5 of like most bodybuilding shows almost all of them are black like they just fucking decimate us they just it just not even is not even close is not even close and most sports in the same way. It's just athletically, they just sit way beyond us which sucks.

01:27:51.34

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:28:02.47

christophknoll

I mean Brian Brion Brian's been around for a while hasn't he he's been. He's been doing shows for a while.

01:28:04.87

Paul

Yeah, well. Okay, yeah, that's the thing though is that the one the one division that we really dominate is classic. That's the one division like if you look at the classic lineup. Granted Ramon is.

01:28:16.12

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:28:22.27

Paul

Ah, Brazilian or Portuguese Whatever you want to call it Brazilian really? but yeah, most most guys up on stage for classic are white. It's just the way we're built Um, but men's physique and men's open are either men's open is either middle Eastern or black and then men's physique is almost entirely black. It's just genetically. It's just.

01:28:25.71

christophknoll

Brazilian.

01:28:41.41

Paul

Just so far ahead of everybody else. It's it's blessed just blessed with it. Um, and obviously the fastest runners in the world are all African not even close. The competition isn't even close. Um, but it's not ah, it's not like a race thing. It's not like a racist thing. It's just how it is. It's just genetically. It's what we're built for.

01:28:49.65

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:28:57.47

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:29:01.29

Paul

Um, and we should be celebrating those differences. You know it's it's not something to be looked down upon or um, you know we can be envious. That's 1 thing but like we should embrace it you know embrace the differences between everybody and celebrate that there are so many different cultures and so many different ways of life and everybody's built so differently. You know. Ah, but then when you get into the the unhealthy things that people promote like being very very large and you know obviously love yourself. You know don't be unhappy in your own skin. But you know don't be forced people to accommodate for you? yeah yeah yeah I mean that's.

01:29:28.51

christophknoll

Always what and always want to improve to like be happy but always want to improve.

01:29:37.78

Paul

I Think that's just that should be your mindset. It's not everybody's mindset. But um, you know if you want to progress in life then always look for better. Ideally, it's a blessing and a curse. But if you look for better. You're going to keep moving forward and you're going to get better. So just got to put your mind to it.

01:29:46.70

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:29:55.87

Paul

Not how it is though. Um, but you should probably call it there I mean I think we went over a bunch of different myths I mean we could talk about more in the future if we if we um, you know come across anything new.

01:29:56.00

christophknoll

Hell yeah brother.

01:30:05.95

christophknoll

On this episode of Mythbusters Christoph and Paul tackle do do the whole do the whole intro like they have where they're spinning around with like math equations just us mogging.

01:30:12.29

Paul

That's what we should do like well like once a year have like an annual. Yeah, but it's just like dumbbells. It's like dumbbells and like machinery and shit just like going around and it's like like a chicken just like a like chicken breast going around us. And they're like trend just like trend pops up and fades away like yeah, exactly broccoli with some rice or something like no sugar seasoning the other way going the other way like all these different like common shit. But if we did it like with those like a high school would be like like like a perm like flows away and like.

01:30:30.64

christophknoll

A piece of spinach.

01:30:39.88

christophknoll

Yeah, ah.

01:30:49.25

christophknoll

Um, yep, ah Broccoli heads.

01:30:49.43

Paul

Like a cross earring going the other way they're spinning where they're all wearing wife beaters of different colors. You know, yeah exactly and then talk about sarms like just like have like ostrian pop up and like austrian like have it float off and Lgd yeah, might'd be funny.

01:31:05.59

christophknoll

Love that I guys.

01:31:07.50

Paul

We'll get something like that. But um, with that being said, appreciate you guys listening stay safe in the gym and use proper form. Don't believe all the missy here. See you guys.

01:31:16.25

christophknoll

Ah, absolutely all right everybody. But.


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