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HGH #32 - Cutting Out Sugar


00:00.00

christophknoll

Welcome back everybody we are back with yet another week and better internet on my side so we should have a full podcast with no interruptions this week

00:08.33

Paul

Yeah, yeah, we had some technical difficulties last week and you've been struggling with your stream I think right hasn't that been an issue as well.

00:16.82

christophknoll

I was but then I revamped the entire internet network here and I have no problems anymore. Ah well just moving to this place like it was It wasn't getting.

00:22.34

Paul

So what was the issue.

00:32.97

christophknoll

As good of speeds as I was in Fitchburg and then also the modem was older and couldn't optimize the higher speeds so it was just an upgrade of the modem and ah you know, rerunning some ethernets through the.

00:34.85

Paul

Is it.

00:43.94

Paul

Gotcha.

00:49.48

christophknoll

The ceiling trying to get better connection.

00:51.76

Paul

Nice yeah, that was um when spectrum up so I upgraded from like the standard package I have is like fifty megabytes but then like $20 more a month and I get like half a gig.

01:02.67

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:04.34

Paul

Um, so it was 400 that I could pay for twenty bucks but then they upgraded for me me for free up to 500 which is pretty dope and they set me a modem and that was the issue with why it wasn't running as fast as before is because of the modem specifically not the router I thought it's gonna be the router. Um, but it's actually the modem but we got to.

01:19.21

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:22.21

Paul

Need a new router because if I'm in my bathroom um like my master bathroom you know, ah you know, maybe like one hundred feet away or something um and through a few walls then ah, it's the internet gets slow. So I got to figure that ah that issue out. But yeah, the modem can be an issue. Um.

01:38.33

christophknoll

Yeah, we'll just get like a mesh system where you can have multiple ah routers.

01:42.89

Paul

Yeah, being in an apartment. Um I haven't really found the need for a mesh system yet. Um I plan on it eventually. Ah, especially for a house if we're we're hoping to get a house or being in a house when we're done this lease. Ah February next year so by then I'd like a mesh mesh system. But. Um, for here, it's like ah my mesh system would just be 1 other unit on the other side of the apartment. So um I might just get like an extender or something like that just to push it to our master. Um.

02:02.98

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah. And here you are thinking you are listening to a fitness Podcast. We're actually tech Pros. Welcome Welcome to Tech it.

02:15.60

Paul

Yeah, yeah, we're talking about the internet we got an English we got an English teacher and a cyber security nerd over here. Um, a new job. Yeah, essentially yeah I mean I do talk about.

02:26.95

christophknoll

And somehow that combines into ah into talking about routers.

02:33.95

Paul

Access points and wireless access Deploys and all of that every day and different kinds of servers and stuff but um, nothing like involving a whole internet system. That's that's ah, that's not my expertise at work.

02:44.87

christophknoll

And we'll have a top 10 video out to you guys for the best routers for your budget.

02:49.97

Paul

The best wireless access points to install into your home.

02:57.58

christophknoll

Um, but for those who just saw me scratch my face. Ah, you'll see that I do not have a brace on my broken hand anymore. Um, it's healed to the point where I don't need to wear it and I can actually bend it and do you know most actions again. So I went.

03:11.84

Paul

We love to stay.

03:14.96

christophknoll

Yeah, it's great. Um, like if I hit the inside of my palm I can still feel it because that's like a tender point for the break and then on the backside if I'm hitting the because I broke the fifth metacarpal. So if I'm sitting there banging that I can feel it still. But um, yeah, we're we're out of the brace and.

03:20.60

Paul

Me.

03:34.36

christophknoll

I have 2 workouts in ah 2 was it 2 1 let's see no was just one I did my I did a back workout without without using the brace or anything and my grip strength is way down and all my callouses are gone in my hand so it's it's literally like. My right hand is calloused out and tough because it's what I've been using and then my left hand is just this baby hand. So um, I'm right now focusing mostly on machine work and different cable things just because I don't want to push it with free weights yet.

03:57.47

Paul

E.

04:10.68

christophknoll

Ah, in terms of messing with the grip because with a machine if I if my grip slips the machine just resets. But if I slip my grip with like a bar on top of me if I'm benching then I'm dead like depending on the weight that I have so.

04:20.35

Paul

Then.

04:26.90

christophknoll

I'm taking some time I told my coach within a week or two I'll probably switch to free weekss just to give it a little bit more time to to heal up. Um, but yeah, right now that bat workout went pretty well I'm able to.

04:34.20

Paul

M.

04:43.18

christophknoll

Hold the same. So so like I was doing seated rows and I was able to pull the the attachment that I had without having to like overcompensate on my right side or something like that. Um and things are looking like we're back in business but it's.

04:53.65

Paul

Me.

05:02.14

christophknoll

Again, only time will tell and I will certainly say my recovery is going to be a lot less intensive than it would have been if I wasn't working out throughout this whole period. Um, and that's what some people at my gym were ah talking talking to me about like hey reason or the fact that you're in here and. Doing some kind of work even if it's just unilateral work is still providing some kind of relief for your body and like I've talked about how unilateral work interacts with like your neuropathways and keeps the other side open and that's why I was focusing on muscle attention. Not muscle growth. And now I can kind of shift back into that true like hypertrophy mindset of trying to build it up. Um, but I will say that doing a month month and a half of just 1 armed movements or just 1 sided movements. Um, that kind of. Increased my mind muscle connection if that makes any sense at all because ah like one of the big one that got me is ah I do ah cable handle rows. But it's when you go on your knees.

06:01.26

Paul

Interesting. But I can.

06:14.83

christophknoll

Behind the the seating attachment and you pull like it's it's a long row that way basically but it's single armed and I do that and I can just like I'm able to really get inside of them I can put I could put my mind in the muscle to to quote Arnold.

06:18.48

Paul

So yeah.

06:29.84

Paul

Um, minded muscle. Yeah.

06:35.00

christophknoll

Um, and my back was always one I struggled with doing that. So for back I really am starting to get a way better connection and then when I did that same movement with just the left side because I kept that long row movement in my workout because I'm still you know adding what I can back in. So I did the right side and then I did the left side and I was able to really connect with it and it I mean it was the best movement I did that workout. Um so baby steps getting back into it but probably another month or two before I'm back to a true one hundred percent just because getting my.

06:57.36

Paul

A.

07:07.53

Paul

A.

07:11.84

christophknoll

You know left side of my body back engaged with what my right side was doing um the weight difference shouldn't be too far off, but there is going to be some kind of a discrepancy so just evening that out over the next month or so while my hand completely heals up because it's it's healed like or healing I can.

07:25.79

Paul

Here.

07:31.30

christophknoll

Like I can make a fist which I couldn't do you know four days ago when I got out of the brace. Um, so we're getting there but I do still notice parts of it that don't operate the way they should or the way it should I'm like. When you make a fist your knuckle will like pop up and roll over to allow your your finger to duck into the nook of your palm and my pinky knuckle just sits there. It doesn't flip over so I can make a fist but it's like a it's like it's like as if I'm holding something in my hand.

07:52.66

Paul

Yeah. And.

08:07.10

christophknoll

Which I'm not um.

08:07.34

Paul

Yeah I mean it'll like so from my own experience. Um, it's not obviously the same thing but which you know about my joint split from my hand for my bike accident and um, you know I had this split for a couple weeks. Um,, there's not really much. We could have done to heal it but ah for me, it was just ah, it was just time. That's all it took was just time and um, placing the weight differently on my hand kind of took some adjusting but I'm so used to it now. Um that it's almost like I can't like let's say for like chess right.

08:30.60

christophknoll

Yep, on the.

08:42.42

Paul

The only way I could press for chests now is like suicide grip like that's really the only way I could focus on my chest now because I got so used to it. Um I had to adapt to a suicide grip. Otherwise it would put all the weight on on that ball. Um on my hand. So um, it's gonna take time and the pain you know are you experiencing any pain right now why you lift with that hand.

09:02.11

christophknoll

Yeah, it's more so just an uncomfortabletability. It's I wouldn't say pain like I did I had a batting practice for for softball and I felt pain but that's just because to keep my pinky isolated when you grip the handle I left my pinky completely off the off the handle of the bat.

09:02.19

Paul

Like it's a kind of like a soreness. Yeah.

09:20.25

Paul

Yeah, yeah, that'll do it.

09:21.97

christophknoll

And so the nub that's on the end of the bat was actually in my palm and I have a bruise right in the middle of my palm from where that was kept colliding So that's I feel some pain with that. But outside of that I don't not in the gym. But again I'm not risking free weights right now. So.

09:34.30

Paul

Yeah, yeah, yeah, the pain that I was experiencing was kind of like a soreness like it was kind of like an ache. Not really like a pain but it was like an aching feeling so that just kind of went away over time I would say probably like six months I was fully gone.

09:41.20

christophknoll

All machine work for Now. No.

09:54.90

Paul

Um, where like over time it was less and less and less and less and really the only time I really experienced. It was chest because there's so much weight on your hand in general. Um, that's why people also get like um, ah tennis elbow through through chest days is because there's so much weight on all of your arm joints.

10:10.61

christophknoll

Yep.

10:14.00

Paul

from from chess but um yeah thats my only problem with it really, but it just it went over away over time and um, that's I think that's the best way to treat. Ah like I mean that's physical therapy one to one I mean time and using the using the muscle or using the bone. Whatever it is. That's hurting is a lot of time the best recovery and. Um, another example that recently my wife had a scare she had like this really bad like like toothache it was just her gums were swelling and um, it was like she could chew and stuff it was just it was just kind of painful and I'm like look she you know we're kind of in a bad spot right now with like insurances and stuff so I was like look. Let's give it a couple weeks I was like if it's still there and it's you know, either stay the same or gotten worse then we'll go see a dentist but literally like four or five days later she's like look and it was like almost gone I'm like yeah you just need to give it time sometimes like things just swell up sometimes things to just get inflamed and whatever it is.

11:03.40

christophknoll

Who.

11:10.66

Paul

You know it could just go away with time. Um, and that was you know a perfect example of that where it was you know if we went right away they could have just told us oh there's nothing really wrong. It's just you know you you bit down wrong or on something or whatever it is um, something got stuck and you know now it's this log you just got to wait for it to go away so we just waited. Anyways, before going to a dentist and it was fine I mean I used my example once where I had a um this is years and years ago like six seven years ago I had a piece of like popcorn kernel in those little brown fuckckers that are like that are like sharp. Yeah that got suck in my gum and for three weeks it was killing me.

11:42.40

christophknoll

Ah, ah.

11:47.45

Paul

Um, it was fine if I wasn't eating but if I ate anything on the left side of my mouth. It would kill so I waited about three weeks and it still hurting. So I went to the dentist and they had to numb me to get it out because it's so far deep in my gums but like I didn't want to go if I didn't have to go if if the pain was going to go away and it didn't so I went and ended up being worth it. But. That's what I was telling her I was like lu. Let's just let's just wait it out and then we'll figure it out, but her family has grown up in dirt bikes. So she knows when like for instance, a bones broken, especially her dad and her brother because they've broken so many bones race and dirt bikes and like if they break because when they race it's on the weekends. And they don't even go to like um the ah er anymore for bones. They just wait till primary care opens just to get like a cast basically or like a sling or whatever it is. They know exactly what the issue her brother. Um, granted her brother broke his neck recently? Um, thank god. He's okay. Because that could have been really bad. He broke one of his vertebras in his neck. But um, prior to that he's broken other bones and hell just like oh yeah, I'm just going to wait until Monday when primary care opens I know I broke it and you know I'm going to keep my arm in a sling or whatever it was and he'll just go on Monday and it like you'll get it fixed like it's like they've broken that many bones where it's like. They know when they broke something they just give it a few days. Go get a sling and then they're they're they're fine in a few weeks you know what I mean it's it's wild. Um, um.

13:06.17

christophknoll

They are never going to be able to live in a cold climate because Broken bones even healed when a cold wind comes through that gets such an aching especially as you get older so they're just I mean you guys are just forced to live down south now.

13:16.79

Paul

In. Yeah I mean ah their problem is like it's for dirt bikes is different um because it's like their w restts their wrist is a big problem because of the throttle. They're always running the throttle. Um because they race for 3 hours it's gcc which is woods racing so they race.

13:33.24

christophknoll

Now.

13:39.69

Paul

For a long-ass time and they're they're run to throttle the entire time so they get w risk issues and I'm sure that carpal tunnel kind of becomes a thing especially with pressing the breaking clutch so often. Um I know their feet ends up being an issue as well. Um, being on the pegs and um, you know always being on their feet all the time. So. Um, that can be a problem too. So I mean there's different issues that they face than than other sports. Um, but I mean it's it's wild. Those guys are those guys are crazy. You know they're riding inches from trees going like full like redlining the bike you know, riding through 106? Whatever it is just full red line in it. But um, every sports got its ah issues and. Um, I'm glad that you gave your body the ability to recover. Um, because if you didn't then you're just going to fuck your future even worse. So um, it's good that you did that I'm I'm glad you did it that way.

14:24.59

christophknoll

Yeah, and that and that kind of feeling I mean just makes you want to go and kick a fat kid in Kmart you know praise god baby.

14:35.62

Paul

Yeah, man just makes you want to go kick a fat kid in Kmart you know what? I'm saying praise god baby that's such a good quote. Um, here's a question for you speaking of.

14:38.43

christophknoll

Yeah, brace.

14:47.26

Paul

Bones and all of that this is actually a really good question that I saw in a Youtube short that I thought was funny was there's a company if you're working for a company that offered you this opportunity would you take it for every finger you chop off. So the first finger you chop off they offer you 10 grand but every finger after that they multiply. The number by 10 how many fingers you chopping off so I was thinking none and then I've really thought about it and then Ludwig who's a streamer who's in the Youtube short.

15:05.63

christophknoll

Now None no.

15:20.90

Paul

Really confirmed for me what I would do he said I would chop off all 10 because that gives you $100000000000000 which is more than the world's gdp if you chop off all 10 fingers. You'd have. He's like he's like you're telling me if I chop off 10 fingers and I have $100000000000000 I couldn't figure out some sort of robotic finger situation and I'm like damn he got a point.

15:38.86

christophknoll

Now but that that filters into the materialistic mindset and I just don't care for money like I don't I don't have the desire to to make absurd amount of money I don't have the desire to focus my life around money I make what I make and I have my my.

15:39.83

Paul

Like you literally would be the richest person in the entire world.

15:53.39

Paul

Yeah.

15:58.47

christophknoll

Lifestyle and I'm content so I would not even bother.

15:59.80

Paul

I Think that's fair. That's fair I think like in that situation. It's either you chop off none or you chop off all of them because it's like like you might as like obviously it's it's a made up situation. It's like oh you're going to mow a lawn for your neighbor and you start off with a penny a day but then every day.

16:07.40

christophknoll

Yeah.

16:18.90

Paul

Um, what was it, you multiply it by the number before it or something and then you end up with like 30 something million dollars or whatever it was I forget what the question was but it's like yeah, it's hypothetical. It's never going to happen. But it's just it's just a thought experiment I guess um, but in my mind I was like none because I won all my fingers.

16:31.75

christophknoll

But you have.

16:36.56

Paul

But then he said all 10 and then I was like all right I'm either doing none or all 10 You know there's no one between? Oh yeah I see that shit too would you wrote $45000000000 you get extra £20 lean muscle. You have to outbech your second at yeah I see that shit. Um.

16:39.44

christophknoll

But you have to outbench press your second at.

16:52.68

christophknoll

Yep.

16:55.36

Paul

And then I sent you the one where I was like ah player versus player your physique versus is your second at my second out was chris bums that I'm like are you fucking serious so shit like it just randomly pops up these like accounts like my fifth one was like some some like.

16:59.71

christophknoll

Yeah, which makes no which makes no sense that means you're sending him memes or or trying to hit his Dms.

17:13.23

christophknoll

Start to be.

17:14.56

Paul

1 of the one of the athletes on unchained athletes I'm like I'm not even I was like I don't even know you I looked at your profile for a second I'm like why are you my fifth at like it just it doesn't make any sense. But um I think you just whatever accounts I interact the most with because like number one at my fitness profile is Jim Fail nation so I think it's just whoever interact with the most. But.

17:29.70

christophknoll

Yeah.

17:34.60

Paul

Yeah, these these thought experiments are interesting. Um, but yeah, that's fair. That's a fair response. Um, for those that don't know Charlotte pro show just happened this weekend which is one of the bigger shows throughout the year um yeah we'll talk about it for a second. Um, it's not like.

17:35.78

christophknoll

Yeah I'm keeping my hands.

17:47.50

christophknoll

Do on talk about that.

17:53.32

Paul

Like basically the biggest pro show each year is The New York Pro arguably um Charlotte pro is getting up there. It's a pretty big show. Um, but like here's here's a like good rule of thumb if it's a big show nickricking power talk about it. Talk about it and talk about the men's open division. Um, that's how you know it's a big show. Um I think he talked about the New York pro each year. Um, he talked about the arnolds and all of that. But um, the Charlotte pro just happened and as far as min'sphysic goes I was surprised Cory Morris won but I also take that he deserved it the top 3 um Cory Morris ah I don't even know I say his name Ben Keel Meignney and Christopher Barr it could have gone either way for any of those 3 I put Ben Keel when I saw when I was seeing the lineup I was rooting for Brendan Ela because he's my you know he's my barber. He's on the team. Coolest dude so rooting for Brandon but um, he got ninth. Unfortunately, but it was his best pro placing and I think he's going to have a good future but ah see in the top 5 I put Ben Keel First um Corey second just for my own like what I prefer in a competitor and then Chris Barr third um, but in the callout Chris Barr was smack dab middle. So if the if the callouts went the way that they were placed in the Callout. So if the finals went so like if the playcings went the way they were called out then Chris Barr would have gotten first Ben Keel would have gotten second and Corey got third but Corey ended up winning.

19:29.28

Paul

Um, so it was it was surprising in a sense but I can understand why he won but I do think that Ben Keel just he came in phenomenal um and he just was absolutely keeled to the fucking gills. Um. So that was that was all I wanted to mention I didn't really pay attention much to the men's open competitors. Um classic physique um Thomas Allen that I was I was disappointed. That's Thomas Allen placed the way he did um but it was I think it was also his first pro show. So Thomas Allen is the one that I mentioned to you sometimes um Thomas the tank ihobe pro the one that I see in the gym sometimes that's enormous. Um, so he placed Eighth. Um I was and I was sad that he placed eighth but um, like I said it was also his first. Ah pro show. So. Um, it's actually really good placing first first pro show um most people don't place top 10 for their first pro show. So um.

20:33.92

christophknoll

I'm looking at the ah pictures of and I'm going to mispronounce it but Denil Faont or however, you want to pronounce his name. The guy who won the men's classic physique. Um, and ah I have the site where I'm looking at all their physique pictures and you can see.

20:41.34

Paul

Ah yep, yep, den Yeah I think it's denil.

20:47.73

Paul

Me.

20:50.68

christophknoll

Clearly that he's right handed because his right bicep or right arm in general has as much more vascularity and definition and size wise they're about the same but you can you can just tell that he's right handed which I think is pretty cool.

21:06.10

Paul

Yeah I mean something to consider too with with being on stage is that sometimes the lighting is kind of weird. So sometimes like the the lighting on the stage will look make you look like asymmetrical or whatever but it just depends on I mean it also depends on your pose and all of that too. Um. So like when he's doing his most muscular his right hand is grabbing his left wrist. So like that's going to alter the way his physique looks because it is asymmetrical. You know his right hand is higher than his left hand. Um, but I can see which stay in his right arm does look in this most muscular photo I'm looking at it does look more.

21:36.57

christophknoll

He broke.

21:42.91

christophknoll

He brought a great package though.

21:43.83

Paul

Defined. Um, yeah, me pull up his Instagram here. Um yeah, check out Ben Keel ben keil pierre is his ah Instagram um, dude look crazy. Um I don't see any photos of him on stage.

21:59.98

christophknoll

And Ben Keel where did we're talking men's classic for league. Oh yeah I see yeah I ah gee this student is shredded.

22:01.95

Paul

Yeah b e n q u I l no, that's men's physique sorry that's men's physique um that I'm talking about that one but but classic yeah he Ben Keel was absolutely diced on stage crazy crazy conditioning. Um. The guy that we're talking about for classic. Um, what's his name. Um den demi danle Feont fanonty um his front double. Um I think is the biggest one that could use work as far as posing goes. It just like his midsection is most muscular looks phenomenal, but his midsection in his front double looks kind of washed out but also very much could be the photo too because a photo does look kind of blurry um, the one that I'm looking at on his Instagram um, but I mean who knows.

22:54.19

christophknoll

Yeah, well if you go to was it the Npc news online. You can see all of their show pictures. That's what I've been looking at ah.

23:03.60

Paul

Ah, let me pull that up here and pc okay here we go Charlotte pro okay got you? Um, let me see pull up galleries me see if I could find it um, check.

23:16.20

christophknoll

I can send you a link if you don't find it.

23:20.74

Paul

Not the checking photos. Okay, yeah, can you can you shoot? can you text me that link. Yeah, that's fine either way. Um, yeah I was looking at just like this like volt or something like that.

23:25.81

christophknoll

I'll email it. But yeah.

23:35.61

Paul

Me see.

23:40.40

christophknoll

Just said it to you.

23:41.88

Paul

Cool.

23:51.63

christophknoll

Was there even a men's open here but I was gonna say I don't even see it.

23:53.97

Paul

No, there was not okay so you just clicked on the names.

24:02.64

christophknoll

Yep you click on their names and you're able to look at their their shots which if you're looking at men's physique. You're just going to see the 2 poses. That's my big thing against that's why I don't like men's physique.

24:04.12

Paul

Okay, cool. Yeah, got you all right? yeah.

24:13.24

Paul

Um, yeah, that's that's also my problem men's physique is that there's not much more to it. But that's also the foundation of it is that we've talked about it before it's yeah, the.

24:21.16

christophknoll

Well yeah, yeah, it's just it's just being the best looking beach attire.

24:29.12

Paul

Yeah, that's how it started and it's just kind of the point where it's like let's see how diced we can get without being enormous. Um, what.

24:34.86

christophknoll

I will say a second place in the men's classic physique justin bed arena long hair bros he's got some quads.

24:44.69

Paul

Let me take a look. Um, yeah core I think I think I would have so yeah Justin Betterina um yeah there we go? yeah.

24:52.40

christophknoll

Although you can you can tell he's a super white dude because his body is tanned out and then his face is just.

24:58.22

Paul

Yeah, white as fuck. Um, yeah, he's got a. He's got a good physique for classic. He's got the classic look We see where his front double I don't even see your front double. It doesn't look like he did a front double. Um.

25:11.77

christophknoll

Well am I Just not this it. Yeah, that's that's more So what I mean.

25:15.30

Paul

Yeah, they didn't take any photos of it. Yeah, um, but yeah, um, that's I think I would have liked Cory Morris's physique more if he just if his for me his his front pose is just not as good as I think it could be. Um, as far as ah, Christopher Barr um he was at the the seminar with Steve Weinberger and Steve was like saying that Chris is almost his arms make him almost too big for men's physique. Um, so he said that's probably going to dock him some points.

25:50.98

christophknoll

I Mean let me take a look.

25:52.73

Paul

Because it's It's yeah his arms are kind of pulling away from his overall physique and his arms in person will look way bigger than they do in photos. Um.

25:59.16

christophknoll

I Mean you can see that there. There's some he's got some absolute size and Girth on these bad boys I.

26:08.10

Paul

Yeah, he's got some pretty big arms. Um especially his left arm when he's doing his front pose like it really kind of takes away from the rest of his physique. Um.

26:16.34

christophknoll

I Know you can't control it really. It's just like genetically how it is but I hate how displaced his abs are. It's not the the lineup. You know what? I mean like when I was when I was looking at um, you know.

26:22.71

Paul

Um, yeah, yeah, that's.

26:31.71

christophknoll

Ben Keel like his I mean great Benkeels abs are next level but um, his are you know, perfectly symmetrical and down the line and yeah christopher bars I just.

26:43.51

Paul

Um, the.

26:46.85

christophknoll

It It irks me how that left middle one is just popped off to the side.

26:51.33

Paul

Yeah, that's yeah, like you said it's entirely like genetics like there's nothing. Yeah, um, yeah, it's like I know Derek more plates more dates had like are really bad abs.

26:52.99

christophknoll

Yeah, you can't you can't control and unless you go and like get actual work done on them. You can't really do anything about it.

27:08.21

Paul

Um, and supposedly he did something to fix them I don't know how I didn't really watch the entire video but I know a few guys at the top my head that like if they were to compete pro. They won't really do that. Well just because their abs are just so fucked and it's just genetics like they have abs and they're protruding and all of that. But it's just like it's just so fucked. Um. That there's there's nothing that you know they can do about it? Um, but yeah, it's ah he did he place? Yeah, he placed first at the what wasatch pro I think as well. Um I want to say. Plays first there as well. Cory Morris has done a few pro shows in a row. Yeah, he beat Ben Keel at the wasatch pro. Um Ben q came in way better, not way better I think he came in better this show than you did at the Wasatch. But I think Wasatch was kind of like him getting ready for um. Charlotte pro I could be wrong I think the Charlotte pro is a bigger show. But um, yeah I mean I think personally Ben Kela the better physique that's just me and you also had the better posing as well. Um, but in if you're looking at the class of Zeke lineup Tom.

28:06.18

christophknoll

Yeah.

28:21.62

christophknoll

Well's um, I'm looking at the the comparison pictures and um, the only there's only like 2 dudes doing a vacuum on the front double everyone else is ab flexing.

28:23.97

Paul

Yeah.

28:31.10

Paul

Yeah, um, the guy second from the right in the lineup in their comparisons that's Tom Allen yeah in the first call out. Yeah, um, that's Tom Allen yes

28:37.26

christophknoll

In the first and the first call out you mean? okay second dude from the right you said? Yeah yeah.

28:46.77

Paul

Yeah, so there's 8 guys up there second dude from the right? Um, that's what I was rooting for um, but obviously the middle.

28:55.40

christophknoll

It looks like he has a lot more size on everybody else. It's just the definition is is where it's I mean I let me pull up his individual pictures.

29:02.45

Paul

Um, my thing yeah my thing with Tom personally I think he's got a really good physique I just think that he he had there's better opportunities for his posing I think. Personally like I respect the hell out of the guy dude such a nice guy I just think that when it comes to posing I think if you worked with a different posing coach. They could get him in a place that would really show off his physique. Um, you don't see it here but his front sorry his. Side chest was where um Steve Weinberger really picked him apart. Um his front double was fine to Steve and I think his most his um front lat spread. Um, he kind of tweaked his legs a little bit because. Tom Allen takes a lot of ah influence from Dorian Yates with his front lot spread and in um, you know, kind of like relaxed pose. Um, because of like the quad thing that he's doing and looking to the side that's very much a ah Dorian Yates inspired pose. Um, his front lats his front double almost very much reminds me of ers like a very ers type of pose. Um, but I just think that if he just did some more work on his posing with a different coach than whoever he's working with now I think can get better placing.

30:25.87

christophknoll

No.

30:36.45

christophknoll

I don't like how on his side chest. He's doing a ah a hand together crunch I'm looking at Tom.

30:40.58

Paul

Where do you see a sad chest. Oh shit, there's 5 albums. Oh like there's pages I thought there's only. Okay, yeah, so his side that's what I was talking about his side chest Steve just like ripped him apart. He's just like what the hell are you doing with your hands there.

30:57.88

christophknoll

Yeah.

30:59.87

Paul

Um, and he made him do like a typical side chest and then immediately the next day Tom posted a photo of him doing a side chest doing the the hands together thing I'm like Steve Weinberger the head judge told you to do it this way and you're not doing it I'm just like I mean if that's what you want to do that's fine I'm just.

31:19.80

christophknoll

Yeah.

31:19.36

Paul

Just I to make sense to me Why he why he went back? Um, especially because he like tore him apart was like dude this minute this looks terrible like you'll look great. He's like don't get me wrong. You look great but you can look much better if you do this and he fixes his chest his side chest and then yeah it didn't matter.

31:35.75

christophknoll

Pretty solid lat spread from the back to.

31:37.36

Paul

Um, yeah, he did He did help him with that. Um, yeah, he helped him open it up more ah because he was kind of keeping more in his core when it came to his rear lat spread so he helped him open it up a bit more. Um.

31:57.00

Paul

He's got a really good bicep Peakek for a rear double though his bicep Peakek is fucking crazy. Um, very very short head biceps and very jealous. But.

32:00.47

christophknoll

Yep.

32:07.69

christophknoll

I'll say he's pretty awkward in his in his quad ab flex because because I mean obviously you think of like the the J Cutler stomp or even just Ronnie like doing his version of that.

32:13.66

Paul

His yeah.

32:24.92

christophknoll

And the way that Tom has his is these kind of like up on a ballerina type thing with it and it's it's just weird to see that opening and disproportionate calves to his quads too. That's that's not great.

32:28.78

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

32:40.70

Paul

Um, yeah I think it's just the way his legs are posing. Um, but yeah, he when he did when they did um, an abs absents thighs. Um, he kind of tweaked them Steve Wenberger tweaked him. He had him more like scrunching words and spread his lots out more. Ah, it's create more a v but I guess um, it wasn't what he was going for here. But yeah, he he got eighth there and he got eighth in this one. Um, his.

33:04.50

christophknoll

What was this? Yeah, what was the scorn card like where's that oh there's some hold on the the masters were there too. Rodrigo Colo won the the masters.

33:17.26

Paul

What's some ashes looking like.

33:22.79

christophknoll

For men's classic physique.

33:23.60

Paul

Rodrigo for okay, men's classic for 40 and up. Yeah Rodrigo Colo a for fortying up. He looks solid.

33:30.67

christophknoll

Which is wild You can't even that he doesn't even look for you. You know what? I mean.

33:36.73

Paul

Yeah, no, he doesn't I mean you can kind of see in his face a little bit but that's about it.

33:41.24

christophknoll

Master's over 50 That's wild that this is a thing.

33:45.33

Paul

Yeah, let me see over 50 Yeah, these guys are like a lot of these guys are like younger 50 s they're not older. Fifty s um, oh yeah, it's impressive. It's very very impressive.

33:53.32

christophknoll

Yeah, but still like to do this in your fifty s I mean ah don't even put it as impression of I've put it at a dangerous I mean we've talked about it.

34:03.14

Paul

It can. It can be yeah, it can be a lot of time. It does show though the age does show especially when you get into your 50 s your structure kind of starts to fall apart. Um, which is just it's just part of age your your body goes through a lot of changes as you grow older. Um.

34:09.54

christophknoll

Yeah.

34:21.15

Paul

So and then like a lot of these guys too in their fifty s you'll see like the posing is way different than what other people do um, it's just the difference in in generation I Guess is what I would call it. Um, so you will see the difference there in the type of posing that they're doing um.

34:35.90

christophknoll

Yeah.

34:40.62

Paul

But I know he looks great for for masters over 50 and this is also a pro show too because I'm so I'm pretty sure all everybody I don't think there is a am I don't think this is a pro am show. Um.

34:52.64

christophknoll

So you're telling me that there's potential at a ah at an amateur masters for some dad to just get up there with full full dad Bud and just with.

34:56.61

Paul

Oh fucking every Npc show. There's a master's over whatever and they're all like fucking half of them are like that I'm like I'm like dude respect for getting up on stage.

35:11.28

christophknoll

Instead instead of instead of board shorts. They're out there with Gene shorts.

35:13.90

Paul

I'm just like what are you doing dude like legit like there's 1 guy one of the regionals I went to um, look great for his age but he walked out in like the baggiiest fucking board shorts I've ever seen like they're almost like down to his ankles like I'm like dude what are you doing I'm like you look like some like. Like a construction worker that works in Boston and like refuses to wear pants during the winter like that's what it looked like I was like you're just wearing like you know it's like long Jean shorts and he has like a dc hat on dude, it's fine I'm I'm used to the shit and wearing like a car heart jacket.

35:41.38

christophknoll

It's not even cold man.

35:47.64

christophknoll

I'm built different.

35:48.96

Paul

Smoking Newports or something I'm just built different man. Um, but yeah, no, it's it's you'll see that and it is what it is Um, that's part of regional. That's why I tell people to like go see a regional show and you'll see the type of people that get up there? Um, but.

36:04.80

christophknoll

Do you know what? the what the payout was for the Charlotte pro. Okay.

36:10.30

Paul

Um, I think the total was 47 grand I think but as far as like who wins what I don't know I do know that I'm sure classic Zeke won the most. Um let me see if I can find out.

36:23.73

christophknoll

So I was gonna say I wonder what the because he said Charlotte pro is one of the biggest pro shows. So I wonder what the discrepancy is between that and like the I mean obviously the arnold has a bigger namesake but you know what I mean.

36:37.68

Paul

Yeah I mean it's one of the bigger pro shows. It's not nearly the biggest um, let me see if I can find out the the dollar amount I don't know if if anyone will ever really talk about it I do like I said I do know the combination of everything was 47000

36:53.98

christophknoll

Yeah, which is wild because that's not a ton.

36:55.67

Paul

Um, yeah, there's yeah, it's I mean it's the guy who runs who runs it was at the um seminar and he was talking about how like a lot of the money that goes towards the winnings like has to come out of pocket of the people running the shows. Um, and then they have to obviously whatever they make from the show they end up like they get afterwards. You know what? I mean so it's like they they pay out the winners and all of that prior to really getting paid out from the show itself. Um and all the sponsors and stuff like that. So That's part of the problem and that's part of why.

37:20.41

christophknoll

Yeah.

37:35.45

Paul

Didn't have men's open because that there's like for a show like this. There is not many men's open competitors that would go to something like this because it's not a bigger show. So a lot of guys won't in the men's open category won't put their body through it just to go to this show and not really win too much money. Where they could focus on something like the New York Pro or you know if they're doing men's open and they're not a pro. Maybe the aren't the arnold amateur if they can get a spot there or something like that.

38:01.37

christophknoll

I was going to say the the probably the big part or the big winning from from this is like your pro points that you get like stacking towards like the O or or the an arnold or something like that.

38:11.50

Paul

Yes, yes, yes, that's a lot of the reason these guys compete in these shows like that's why like Corey did the past like 2 or 3 pro shows is because I think he's trying to get his his spot at the o um.

38:22.36

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

38:24.92

Paul

To compete. So that's a lot of the reason why these people compete. It's not about the money for these It's to getting to the o um, and then that's so like if he I don't know if Corey got his spot for the o yet. Um, but if he did then he has a longass time to to get ready for it. Um, it's going to be taking place in Florida this year um the 5 winners of this weekend's competition will earn an invite so he did win and invite. Okay, cool. So he's going to the olympia. Yeah, which is Orlando Florida um November second through fifth this year which is surprising is not in in Vegas.

38:52.22

christophknoll

To the oh okay.

39:01.90

christophknoll

Also isn't it just normally a December show.

39:02.91

Paul

Um, yeah, normally it's December and normally it's in Vegas but this time it's in Orlando um, so maybe if I have the time and money maybe I'll go down. It's not that far from me that's only like an hour flight.

39:12.85

christophknoll

I was I was gonna say for you. That's that's not far even to drive that that's not all that bad.

39:18.64

Paul

Yeah, because that's smack Dad Middle florida so I could probably get there in like 8 hours 9 hours if I drove I mean there's so there's potential for me to head down there. But yeah, so that's that's when it's taking place. So now. All Corey has to do is just focus on the o so he might do like being April. Um, he might do like a couple month bulk like slight if it was like my guess is like a slight bulk for a couple months then like a recompmp and then he'll get into probably like a 12 to sixteen week cut um going into ah the o for for November this year. Um. So that's that's my guess but we'll see we'll see what happens. Ah, it's interesting that they they moved it to Orlando and that they ah moved it to November as well. So.

40:07.94

christophknoll

You I Wonder if that's because of how close the oh it is to the arnold. Um, and I wonder if that's to give it a little bit more time for like the dudes who want to do both and give them a little bit more breathing time.

40:16.49

Paul

Um, it's hard to say um, let me see ah.

40:22.13

christophknoll

Because like ramon for row ers did the the arnold too. But like they're going from training for the for the o which you know everything builds up to that and then you get like a well like a four week mini off and then. You're right back in it for for the arnold like I feel like moving it that whole month earlier gives them just a little bit more time to kind of recover from the process.

40:43.60

Paul

Um.

40:51.16

Paul

Yeah I mean I don't know if they would do something like that. Um, just because the arnold and the O aren't like the same people running it? Um, but they did say that.

40:56.70

christophknoll

Yeah I get that.

41:01.46

Paul

The reason they're they, they're bringing it back to Florida because they had it in Florida for a covid I think and then they brought it back to Las Vegas and they're bringing it back to Florida the reason they're doing it in Florida again is because they're able to capture different sponsors in different parts of the country so they hop back and forth to give sponsors. Um. You know more of an opportunity so like redcon 1 might be like a bigger sponsor to go after in Florida like for like for them to sponsor the olympia be a better opportunity in Florida because they're based out of Florida and they got you know their big gym in Florida at Lauderdale and they got their gym in Nashville and all of that. So um. Have a better opportunity there than they would in Las Vegas where like even shipping stuff. You're going most of the way across the country to ship shit for for like supplements and whatnot. So um, yeah, it's I mean it's interesting and I think also too they. The the less that they spend on the show itself the more they can give out in winnings and soon enough arnold this arnold show is going to probably start taking over especially for the for the divisions that aren't the open because of the winnings. Um, you know more and more winnings you're going to have more and more athletes focusing on that show in particular. Ah.

42:08.48

christophknoll

Yeah.

42:11.81

Paul

It's just it just makes more sense but the olympia will always for a very long time. It would take a long time for any buddy to see the olympias. Not the biggest show each year. It's been the biggest show since the sixty s so but that's what Dan Soliman said about why they moved to Orlando.

42:26.11

christophknoll

Well I mean it's it's It's like how they had um, was it before the olympia was the um Mr. Mr. Universe Yeah, that one.

42:36.18

Paul

Universe. Yeah yeah, universe was dethroned by by the olympia pretty quickly because the the olympia was run by Joe Weider and at the time Joe Weider's magazines were how bodybuilders got out there. Um. So him running it. He was able to advertise the magazines and all of that and it quickly became the biggest show of the year each year and I mean that's why so many guys moved out to Venice California is because that's where Joe Weider was I mean I think Jay Cutler talks about it how he moved out to California when he was like 19 and lived in a house with like 6 other guys. Um. We're all bodybuilders and shit um like literally on the on the beach I'm like dude imagine the money that that fucking place costs now is ridiculous. Um, but he's able to afford it I guess back then.

43:17.25

christophknoll

Ah, well that's that's that's such a thing like the um, the cost of living obviously and cost just cost of everything has gone up and like if you want to fully dedicate yourself to the bodybuilding grind you have to have. Like a either a high-paying job or Daddy's money you know what I mean it's it's no longer like yeah Arnold it was was a poor poor as dude growing up and was able to to get into it and become you know one of the greatest but I don't that's but and so that's a thing like.

43:35.76

Paul

Yeah.

43:43.80

Paul

Are.

43:48.37

Paul

There was no money in it either back then? yeah.

43:54.71

christophknoll

You have to be able to support yourself now because everything is just so much more expensive. So unless you have a really good footing in it. You can't dedicate the time and energy that you could before.

44:06.54

Paul

Yeah I mean it's they call it a rich people sport like it's like ah it's a rich person sport to compete in bodybuilding and it it is very expensive. Um it. It really just comes out of the food. That's my biggest thing. It's just the food that it comes down to. Um, not quite really anything else. Everything else is not as expensive as people think it is especially anabolics. Really I mean it can be very very expensive depending on what you're running, um, like especially the men's open competitors. They're running so much shit. It's so expensive, but like if men's physique and even classic arguably's really not that much. Ah, for for money-wise at least? um, but it's a food that takes so much money I mean I the amount of money I spent on chicken and egg whites is ridiculous I mean I broke blow through a Carton of egg whites roughly every other day and that's $5 a Carton So I mean.

44:48.81

christophknoll

Ah.

44:55.14

christophknoll

Yep.

44:56.26

Paul

And adds up really quick because I'm I'm probably going through like 3 or 4 cartons a week probably give or take um so that's what fifteen twenty bucks I mean I'm spending anywhere from like six to eighty dollars a month on on eggweights alone. Let alone everything else. So I mean it adds up for sure.

45:10.10

christophknoll

Ah, yeah.

45:13.10

Paul

Um, but it's it's just part of the sport and of course I had to pick a fucking sport. That's so expensive like if I got into like golfing or something after doing lessons I mean it can be. It can be expensive but like let me put it this way though like when you have a membership at a golf course or something like that.

45:16.19

christophknoll

No golf golfing is that's not the comparison that golfing is just as expensive.

45:31.43

Paul

It's not like it takes a ton more money to keep it going like you I mean you really got to buy your balls. That's like the biggest like variable expense but like you can use the same clubs for a while you don't have to get clubs every month or something like that or new shoes every month or anything like that. Um, you know what? I mean. So like that's. Like just as an example I guess like basketball you don't need shoot new shoes every week or okay, fair, all right. It can be expensive. That's for sure. But um basketball is you know you don't have to keep dishing out money. You know you practice and practice and then you play.

45:49.93

christophknoll

See that's that's the comparison go with like basketball or baseball bar something Golf golf is in its own Stratosphere of of.

46:07.00

Paul

Like there's really not much expenses that go into it but like bodybuilding is an extremely expensive sport but I would argue the most expensive is anything involving vehicles especially like four wheel four wheel racing. That's extremely expensive, but bodybuilding is is pretty up there especially for a solo sport that doesn't involve a mechanical. Ah.

46:25.99

christophknoll

I Don't know man cornhole is kind of expensive. The I need the rosin for my hands.

46:26.31

Paul

Vehicle so all a custom boards you got to get to optimize your toss your lobs I prefer 500 grain bags 409 just ain't it. Ah, missing that grain I need 1 more one more ball in there for you know what fill it with sugar fill it with sugar. Let's do it that way segue the century. Um, yeah, the other topic we want to talk about today was um was sugar because ah.

46:49.60

christophknoll

Ah, ridiculous now here's the segue. Yeah.

47:02.80

Paul

You know it's it's very very prominent in the war especially in America um, for those that aren't in America. Um, we do have a solid Uk population for for listeners. Um, obviously your guys is food laws and restrictions and all of that are very different from us. Um, and one of the biggest things is sugar. We.

47:05.90

christophknoll

Oh yeah.

47:20.35

christophknoll

Further.

47:20.43

Paul

Put sugar in everything which is kind of also what we're going to get into as well as where that kind of came from but um, sugar is the hardest thing for people to cut out out of their diets. That's easily the top thing that people have have a problem with and it's because sugar addiction is very. Very potent. Um and it's been found that sugar is as addictive as cocaine. Ah and people talk about how addictive cocaine is so sugar is ethically up there. Ah, one of the biggest drugs I would ever say is just junk food in general junk food sugar. All of that is essentially a drug because you can get addicted to it. Ah, so it's it's something that people easily abuse so we're going to be talked about that today and um the benefits of cutting it out. Um, because if you can cut that out like for a lot of people who are overweight as well. I just say just cut out sugar if you just cut out sugar the amount of weight people lose just doing that just that will change so much. So ah, you know, just something to preach today because it's it's hard. It's a hard thing to cut and I know what it's like I mean even we'll get into other options but there's a lot of shit that's hard to cut out of your diet so sugar is definitely the top one though I would argue.

48:31.85

christophknoll

Yeah, and I would say like on the the non-bodybuilding side of things and just you know having people ask me for fitness advice and asking for cutting and everything I you always just lead with what's your sugar intake every day because.

48:48.24

Paul

Thank you.

48:51.44

christophknoll

For the regular person you're cutting out sugar is the absolute hardest thing because like Paul was saying it the addictive qualities but also like food tastes better with sugar on it like that like if you got a.

48:54.46

Paul

And.

49:06.81

christophknoll

Ah, regular like Apple pie that was used with sweeteners and then then you get a like organic like whole foods. No sugar added Apple pie like it's not going to taste as good like and so that make that really deters people from giving up sugar because they they. Want to maintain their um, their the good foods that like the good tasting foods and that's like something that people always you know, especially my parents. They'll ask me like why do you eat like the same thing every day like it doesn't taste good like and I was like well yes, but you. You have to have a bigger goal in mind and I can still enjoy food I Just don't enjoy it in the same way that someone who eats you know a big Mac every day and all that because those do taste good I mean if you enjoy the taste and all the added preservatives just kind of stack up and. Sugar in general Just it's it's a killer because you also feel filled up with it. So like. For example, if you ate if you ate a family sized bag of sour patch kids like those big £4 bags if you ate all that you you felt you're filled up.

50:15.66

Paul

A.

50:20.76

christophknoll

And you think you're full and inside your body is just craving real nutrients like it's It's just a really really messed up carb and it's not what you want to be consuming and your body doesn't know what to do with all that sugar either like. If everyone if anyone wants to really get freaked out. Get a little ziplock bag and then look up how much sugar is in a can of regular Coke and then and then imagine all that all all of that weight of sugar in that bag and you're literally looking like a full plastic bag so it is.

50:53.64

Paul

Um, yeah, it's a lot.

50:57.90

christophknoll

Mindblowing and that's just a can of soda and people are like oh I don't like because if you think of like looking at the liquid you can't actually see it because it dissolves and so you don't think that there's as much but if you look at the actual nutrition label. It's like fifty Eight grams soda in a single can of so of coke soda like which is absurd. That's like for for my diet at least fifty five grams of sugar might be like what I'd taken for the entire week. Maybe maybe.

51:28.56

Paul

Yeah, from like like other sources that just happen to have it in it. You know like pineapple has a lot of sugar. Yeah yeah, exactly exactly um I have pineapple every day and blueberries and all that and those have like natural occurring sugars in them. But I mean you talked to anybody who's like especially in the Eu.

51:34.28

christophknoll

Yeah, natural sugars natural sugars. Yeah.

51:42.47

christophknoll

Yeah.

51:48.00

Paul

And they try a lot of our food that has sugar in it. They they can't stand the taste because it's just they're not used to the sugar. So. It's like it just tastes terrible to them and I'm sure everybody in the uk that's listening can can of kind of attest to that if you try anything from the Us. Um, it kind of tastes terrible and it's. And it's like it's not even like we use like real sugar like it's not even like we use like cane sugar. It's like it's like fake artificial sugar. Essentially I mean it's not really artificial, but it's not like organic cane sugar that we're using um and it's funny because my problem with it is. So I have for those that don't know I have add and the reason I have it is not because necessarily of like the attention issue. It's my dopamine levels I have essentially no baseline dopamine. So for me sugar is an issue not because of the taste because I can just put equal and shit like equal sweetener I'll put equal my coffee and it tastes amazing. It's the it's the dopamine hit that I get from it from the sugar that's hard. Um, yes I love chocolate I love these other flavored things but like. For me for for. Okay, here's an example. So I drink zero sugar ah sodas like coke zero stuff like that I love it. I love the taste of it. Super sweet. But um, the other this is like a couple weeks ago I sat down to eat my postworkout meal and I had tons of water in my workout and I was like I just kind of want a soda with with this meal. So I grab a bottle of coke zero.

53:09.54

Paul

Coming to find out I grabbed my wife's regular coke which I didn't realize I took a 7 I'm like oh fuck this is good and it like literally like stress just washed off me I didn't realize what it was but I was just like oh this is so good. This is exactly what I needed this is so amazing I'll take a few more steps and my wife's like are you drinking my soda and I'm like what.

53:13.10

christophknoll

First.

53:28.31

Paul

Ah, look and it was Hers. So I'm like no wonder why I feel so fucking good right now like the dopamine hit was just so powerful and that's the reason why sugar's so addicting is because for me, it's the dopamine is the dopamine and and it lowers like anxiety and stress and shit like that. Um I mean granted the addiction will raise that stuff but like. You know in small amounts it'll lower all that so feels good and you get addicted to that. That's what's so addicting about it. Um, so I mean it's.

53:53.58

christophknoll

Well, there's also there's also the the reason why people get like caffeine dependencies because you get that little bit of an energy kick because sugar. It's not to the extent that you know caffeine or like nicotine will will produce for your body but like.

53:59.87

Paul

Me Yeah, that's yeah.

54:12.12

christophknoll

A little bit of a sugar rush will keep you focused for you know X amount of time and if you start balancing that like your body naturally produces the insulin when you excuse me when you take in that sugar and so as you continue to do that. Your body is producing higher and higher levels of insulin and that's when you have those.

54:12.40

Paul

So.

54:31.98

christophknoll

Big crashes and eventually that leads to you know your body not being able to produce as much insulin as it needs to and then you start leading to why you have diabetes and your blood sugar levels start to drop. And you need to actually intake sugar then because you have to force your body to produce. Um more insulin. So if you if you continue to eat more and more sugar like there's a reason why doctors warn or even the Fda warns to keep. Sugar levels under a certain gram total for any given day or week because a continuous buildup leads to these very very life altertering. You know, medical conditions later on in life and it might not even be later on in life like I know a couple of people literally my age that have. You know diabetes not genetic diabetes like diabetes that have been developed from in taking so much sugar because it's in everything here in the states.

55:34.48

Paul

Yeah, and it's not necessarily like we said it's not the natural the current sugars That's the issue. It's the it's the added sugars that ends up being the problem and so like here's my thing too is that when you're talking when we're talking about stuff that has added sugars almost.

55:38.80

christophknoll

Yeah.

55:53.29

Paul

Arguably almost always you talked to somebody who's on the you know more healthier side like Us. We would almost all of us argue that the zero sugar alternative actually tastes better too. So like the reason I bring this up is because Monster energy came out with their zero sugar ah like Green monster and. It tastes and feels the exact same way. The regular monster does and there's no sugar I'm like like it even has that almost like core and syrupy like like thickness to it. You know what? I mean but it there's no sugar I'm like what the fuck is the point of the sugar then if we are able to get this to taste the exact same. Like I genuinely cannot tell you the difference. Maybe if I did like an a to B comparison I might be able to tell us somewhat of a difference but like when I try the zero sugar monster from what I can remember I'm like this this taste exact same like this is exactly because I've been saying it for the longest time I'm like I Love Monster and I love a lot of their flavors but they're original it just something different about the original and. Like I just want a 0 calorie original and they came up with a zero sugar and I swear to God I could' have come on my pants like I was like I saw it on a sign I was like there's no way so I went into the store when I saw the sign fucking bought it and tried it and I was so Happy. Um, but it's it's like there's no real reason for us to put sugar into shit.

56:58.79

christophknoll

He.

57:10.37

Paul

When there's no need to um and that kind of leads back to why sugar became so prominent in the american diet. Ah so this is something that you know I I felt that we should have talked. We should talk about today and you know we're on the same page with this is that back in the 1960 s um. There's a foundation called the sugar research foundation. Yeah, back in my day. Um, so there's a published article in the Jama Internal Medicine Magazine um that was run by the sugar research foundation and what they said was.

57:31.51

christophknoll

Bracken my day.

57:45.00

Paul

They wanted to refute their concerns about sugar's possible role in heart diseases. Um, and the srf which is the sugar research foundation then sponsored research by Harvard scientists that did prove that there's less of a role in heart disease than they thought it did that sugar had. Um, which was then published in the New York new england journal of medicine 67 um, but like it had no disclosure of the sugar industry funding it at all like they're like okay this is just the harvard scientists. What this is what they found the sugar research foundation work with them and to figure it out and this is this is what they found but. There's actually been evidence that the sugar industry and companies that have very prominent sugared products help fund this research because it helped push people to their door help push people to buy their product and because of that they the srf um. And the 19 like sixty s and also kind of the 50 s found that they could actually persuade people towards a lower fat diet but also increasing more sugar because they're saying that fat was the problem that people were having for heart disease not sugar. Um, but that's obviously not the case. So that's kind of where a lot of the sugar comes from today is because it's built up over time from the sixty s and people thinking that fat was the issue when really fat isn't the issue. It's sugar. That's the issue. Ah you can have a very healthy diet with high fats. Um, but the problem obviously with fats is that.

59:18.70

Paul

Calories is very dense in fats and so there is there is some truth that like fat in diets can be harmful because excess fats can really build up your calories very fast, especially when it comes to like fried shit fried shit just just boosts your your calories super fast. But. Ah, sugar has a real actual problem because fats aren't inherently from my understanding They're not inherently addictive like I'm not like sometimes I want peanut butter or something peanut butter flavored but I'm not like craving peanut butter like having withdrawals from peanut butter. You know what? I mean so where with sugar you can actually have. Like withdrawals from it. Um, so it's it's a pretty interesting conspiracy that has been kind of seen as a lot of truth behind it and for those that in the Eu that don't understand why we have so much sugar and that's that's why is because of these faked studies and this money behind it.

01:00:10.17

christophknoll

Well so fake fake studies has to be put in in you know asterisks because the way that you know facilities handle or companies handle their um testing is that.

01:00:15.89

Paul

Asterisks, yeah.

01:00:24.95

christophknoll

They will continue to do the same test until they reach the number that they are looking for. So if they're looking for. You know, 7 out of 10 people reacted in in a better way to a sugar heavy diet than compared to a fat-based diet. Which is the opposite. But if you find you know individuals who are outliers and have them in the study groups. You start to really fudge the numbers and you're able to promote what you want to promote like so many companies and this isn't just sugar. This is across the board for anything if you see a study you want to find.

01:00:48.30

Paul

I hear.

01:01:00.99

christophknoll

Ah, study that was not conducted by the company. You want to find an independent like Journalism group or something like that that completed the same study because they'll give you their you know first 10 So if the if like you'll see ah n equals 10 like based on the. Amount of studies that were taken and this is the Baseline average across the board like you want to find independent companies that do that you never ever really want to believe what the company's selling. You. The product is at telling you like it's the it's the old thing about um toothpaste now I know to attend doctors. Promote this particular toothpaste and you go to like a dentist and they're all like what is this product like you you want to find company or yeah independent companies that do this testing compared to what's on an actual can or or nutrition label.

01:01:50.13

Paul

Yeah, and a lot of it comes down to the wording too. Um, like that was kind of part of these studies was like they they had to publish that they found that there was a connection between sugar and coronary diseases. But they downplayed it to where it's like not much of a concern.

01:01:51.64

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:02:06.49

Paul

But like it is a concern. They're just like oh yeah, we find a link but it's not that it's It's not as bad as people think it is but it's like so like that's kind of how it worked It wasn't like they couldn't just necessarily especially in the sixty s there were a lot of these um like the government was really starting to crack down on advertising and marketing and all of that. Um.

01:02:14.43

christophknoll

Yeah, um.

01:02:25.81

Paul

Especially when it came to like bogus studies and whatnot so they couldn't really say that there wasn't a link but they just downplayed it a lot and that's kind of like the toothpaste thing. It's like they could ask ten ten dentists and as long as or like they could ask dentists and they could be like oh we asked twenty dentists and. These nine said that they recommend it. So like if we just look at this group of 10 then nine out of 10 of them. You know recommend it. It's just how they word it? Um, and these studies too like a lot of studies. If you've taken any classes on statistics you'll know that like a lot of studies are kind of bullshit because they'll have a very small sample size and you can't really base anything off of the very small sample size. You have to have a very large random sample size in like doing like a double blind experiment where nobody knows what the hell is happening and. Only the people who like really designed the sample or design the experiment will really know what's going on otherwise you're gonna introduce bias you're gonna introduce. Um, you know potential like fraud in a sense depending on if somebody wants this experiment to go a certain way. So there's a lot of. You know, kind of nuance when it comes to you know these studies and how you read them so that's kind of where sugar came from it was they didn't really people weren't reading the studies. They were just seeing sugar is better for you than fat is based off the srf study or whatever but it's like.

01:03:54.46

Paul

They really downplayed it I mean if you're going to compare sugar to like drinking olive oil. Then yeah I would say have a little bit of sugar but like it's it's just how you look at it. You know it's how you how you depict it and interpret it to your audience. So that's where a lot of our sugar consumption comes from but I do like. We're seeing somewhat of a shift right now especially towards your sugar shit and healthier alternative alternatives especially in the world of alcohol too. We're starting to see low calorie options. Low carb options stuff like that. But we're starting to see it on the other end as well, especially with diets like keto. But they're like oh it's keto because it's low carb but then they just load it with fats to like make it tasty and it's like in one way. Yeah, you're cutting out sugar. You're cutting out carbs and all of that. But you're just you're getting the opposite effect by having tons of calories worth of fats in this in this you know snack that you're having you know. So we're we're starting to see the other side too but sugar sugar could be a very big problem and that's what a lot of people have trouble cutting from their diets and um I mean even like even aspartam asperam is what I have a lot of I think equal is aspartame and zero sugar has a lot of a pertain and for me. I don't taste the asshparttain like some people do um so I love asparttain for that reason I just taste the sweetness but that's hard for me to cut out too like I've tried cutting out like there was 1 period where um, it was actually during this you know during the podcast I was talking about it. Its a few months ago as part like October or something where we did a um adruning glen reset.

01:05:27.70

Paul

For me and I had to to cut out everything artificially flavored So like that was really hard for me to do because I had to cut out but to cut out sugar I had to cut out like literally everything that could be potentially artificially flavored. Um and I kind of had withdrawals from like 0 sugar sodas and like 0 sugar energy drinks and stuff. So. Kind of pushed me in the direction of like Zoa energy for that reason because they have like naturally natural flavors and their there's drinks. But that's also hard too. So I mean there's a lot to it. You know.

01:05:53.96

christophknoll

Plus plus zoah you know is is owned by Dwayne Johnson who is a natural person like he. so so yeah he he promotes a natural lifestyle. Ah.

01:06:02.65

Paul

Natural bodybuilder. Yeah, no, it's I mean I like zoah um, but it's yeah I mean I don't like their new design with the twelve ounces that shit pisses me off. But um.

01:06:14.33

christophknoll

It also doesn't look as cool I like the blacked out cans.

01:06:20.59

Paul

Yeah I agree I agree. Um I'm trying to do the new prime energy and that's that's not bad, but what I'm glad about is that it's not actually technically owned by Loca Paul and Kai it's just like they own like a stake in it. That's like part of their deal. Sponsorship deals that they just own a stake in it. So I'm like okay that's not as bad as I thought it was um, but.

01:06:39.50

christophknoll

Yeah I will say for you know, regular soda compared to diet soda. A lot of people will say like just complete just throwing it out. There. They they say that diet tastes worse than regular soda but they say that just because. They don't want to give up the sugar aspect. You know it's like when you when you have an addiction to something and so in this case sugar like you you come up with these excuses and personally I don't even taste a difference between the 2 like some some companies do a really good job of.

01:07:00.69

Paul

And.

01:07:15.93

christophknoll

You know, producing similar products and if you did a blind test with someone who claims that regular soda is the only way I would be willing to bet that 75% of the time they were not able to spot the difference between the 2 Um.

01:07:16.96

Paul

Who.

01:07:31.60

Paul

Yeah, and if anything a lot of people prefer the zero sugar alternative because it's a lot sweeter.

01:07:34.19

christophknoll

So yeah, absolutely, but that also has there's There's some studies that have been done about whether and this is not so much sugar but well I mean it's based and rooted in sugar. But how diet soda is worse. For you then regular soda and like there's studies that have been done for both and I mentioned how earlier if you're drinking regular soda and you have the sugar intake you have your your body produces insulin to counteract the sugar because that's like how your body processes sugar and how it can actually break it down.

01:08:08.70

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:08:12.92

christophknoll

And so when you drink diet soda your body produces the insulin anyways because if you've had regular soda it thinks that it's going to be getting you know a sugar intake and so your body produces that insulin to kind of you know. Counteract it and then there's nothing to Counteract. So then you just have a higher level of insulin in your body and that can lead to you know heart effects as well later down the road. It's not like once or twice like that's not going to affect it. But the studies suggest that. In the long run that also has potential negative Aspects. So I mean when I have conversations with people I try and tell them just cut out cut out soda in general doesn't even have to be the sugar option just try and cut out soda if possible I understand it tastes good, but as a whole if you're just I mean.

01:09:00.88

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:09:07.10

christophknoll

If you just drink water and coffee. You're fine like that that's kind of your way to go.

01:09:13.13

Paul

Yeah, and there's also like some of the fear behind it too that like ah different artificial sugars cause cancer and like realistically that's not the case. Ah,, there's been a lot of studies on them. Um, the biggest one was saccarine back in the sixty s um they said you know there's a study done. They're like oh there's a higher potential for for bladder cancer at male rats if they had more saccarine in their diet. Ah, but then after some time they reviewed and it was banned by the Us government for that reason. But then after some times independent researchers. Like reviewed the experiment and they're like there's really no way to actually prove this. They're like it's granted, it's still banned from the Us government but it's like there's really no actual evidence. Um, and most artificial sugars. Um, there's a lot.. There's so much that goes into what causes cancer.

01:09:45.96

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:10:00.33

Paul

It's hard to say whether or not an an artificial sugar really did actually cause cancer for someone because there's so many outside variables that can that can play a role So there's there's that like I remember when I was a kid like my dad was saying oh don't like we're at friendlies or something and he was like.

01:10:05.39

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:10:17.30

Paul

He's like don't have the sweet and low because it can cause cancer or something and and I didn't at the time I didn't really question it but like now I'm like there really isn't actually any evidence to that you know and like all all of it's really just Asparttaine. It's really at the end of the day's just like a lot of those a lot of those are just like aspartame. Um. And I can understand wanting to stay away from artificial sugar, especially for like kids and stuff like that that can kind of play on their energy which you know, but um, it's not really putting in the direction that people thought it was you know it's not as bad as people thought it was and and at the end of the day. Most. Of the time cancer is really just going to come about because of genetics and there's not really much. You can do about it. Yes, cigarettes have been found to cause a lot more cancer. There's abundant research and abundant evidence of that from independent researchers and all of that and there's other forms like obviously radiation is a problem too like.

01:10:58.99

christophknoll

Ah.

01:11:12.14

Paul

There's been obvious sources of cancer. But most of the time it's It's really just comes onto genetics and so that's.

01:11:19.80

christophknoll

I will I'll just say that with radiation and causing it. You do have to you know decide when when push comes to shove. You know the calorie count in uranium is is like 2000000000 to the to the ounce. So. You have to you have to you know, kind of decide what your goal is here.

01:11:35.62

Paul

Yeah, yeah, we mentioned that a few weeks ago. Um, let me look it up. Um, what the actual caloric intake is so it's for one kilo of uranium. It's twenty million calories

01:11:49.52

christophknoll

Yeah I mean so you have to decide like what what you would like in life. You know.

01:11:52.54

Paul

Yeah, is like I mean obviously anybody who knows anything about like the way nuclear power plants work calories is just a measurement of energy So like in a sense of course Uranium has very high calories because it's just like essentially raw energy.

01:12:11.66

christophknoll

So.

01:12:12.39

Paul

So it makes a lot of sense. But um, yeah, it's just like radiation can be I mean you guys if you haven't seen you got to get a subscription to Hbo Max and watch the um Chernobyl miniseries.

01:12:25.76

christophknoll

Yep.

01:12:26.39

Paul

Phenomenal miniseries and it really it really puts um radiation into perspective on how dangerous it can be and now it's like 1 of my biggest fears is the way of dying like that. It looks so genuinely painful to die from radiation poisoning. Um, which is kind of funny that we fight cancer with radiation. You know it could be so dangerous, but like they're like oh let's just Target radiation at this bundle of cells. Um, but yes I have very high cancer in my family very high amount of cancer in my family multiple people in my family, especially older generations have died from cancer. Um. So it's it's a very high possibility I'll get it one day. Um, but I'm not going to live my life in any other way to try to avoid it because at the end of the day like I said is going to come down to ah genetics. But um, 1 thing to mention too though is that there is actual links between. Like obesity and cancer if you're if you're on the obese side you have a much higher chance of cancer. Um, and that's been clinically proven um with all different kinds of you know, clinical trials and all of that. Ah, so so that's something to take into account. Um, if you're trying to avoid cancers. You need to live a relatively healthy lifestyle to to stay underweight. Um and relatively healthy so something to keep in mind. But yeah, so artificial sugar has been kind of downplayed as like dangerous but it's really not and.

01:14:00.45

Paul

It's It's just unfortunate that people see it that way.

01:14:01.64

christophknoll

Well I think what's unfortunate too is that artificial sugars have created such a stigmatism towards sugars in general. So then when I try telling someone that like if you eat an apple in the morning and Apple's natural sugars are.

01:14:11.84

Paul

Um.

01:14:18.67

Paul

Are.

01:14:18.94

christophknoll

Ahcquittable to the amount of sugar you could put in a cup of coffee. Um, it people have told me like oh well I shouldn't eat an apple then because of the sugar content and I'm like I mean no because it's it's natural sugars naturally curring sugars are the kind of sugars that you should. Regulate and have a moderate amount of within your diet because those are the ones that your body can process. Those are the ones that your body is trained to process like producing that insulin to break down the sugars like your body is meant to do that. It's the artificial sugars that overload your system. That's the kind of stuff that. Really starts to mess with people and I mean there's sugar in so much more than people think like we we make the the Joe Rogan burger joke all the time but burgers at in fast food places have sugar in it like artificially added sugars in it.

01:15:10.80

Paul

Um.

01:15:11.92

christophknoll

Which is wild to me because if you think about buying like you know, whatever percentage lean beef that you want and you make your own patties at what point in making that burger Patty did you add sugar onto it like it to to me. It is wild to think that these fast food places have.

01:15:24.22

Paul

Um, yeah.

01:15:31.18

christophknoll

Sugar and literally it fries. Their fries have a sugar content which is absurd.

01:15:33.78

Paul

I mean some of the best seasonings and sauces out there just extremely me high in sugar like 1 of my favorite barbecue sauces is um I think it's stub sticky sweet. It's just extremely sweet barbecue sauce and it's just like it's it's so good because the sugar it's just.

01:15:39.85

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:15:52.54

Paul

Phenomenal tasting and I think that kind of comes down to like. Also why there's so much sugar in burgers and all of that is because of the seasoning that they use part of it is like sugar and a lot of seasonings. A lot of ah like barbecue seasonings and everything have brown sugar in them. Um, but that's why like.

01:15:58.82

christophknoll

The.

01:16:11.73

Paul

Part of my meal plan and diet is like no sugar seasonings and they're they're really good. 1 of my favorite barbecue season is kinders which you can buy at Walmart and it's zero sugar. It's phenomenal. It tastes amazing. Um, but also there's other kinds that are really really good with really high sugar. So make sure you just read your labels because a lot of these seasonings their first ingredient in sugar which is annoying. It's so annoying. Oh 0 calorie straight muster seed. Yeah yeah.

01:16:35.95

christophknoll

Let me tell you let me tell you about a thing called yellow mustard who who is 0 everything literally just just sodium enjoy. But yep.

01:16:51.56

Paul

Mustard and hot sauce fucking bang in combination. Um, but.

01:16:55.64

christophknoll

Yeah I cook exclusively with hot sauce like there's an absolutely 0 other added adages to my my cooking process. It's it's literally just salt pepper hot sauce done.

01:17:09.98

Paul

when I when I do chicken I do nothing. It's just plain. Um, but when I do steak I do Montreal seasoning which is different kinds of peppers and then I do coarse kosher salt on the top like over it. Um, which is what I sent you in a photo that was just Montreal and kosher salt which is just phenomenal.

01:17:11.96

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:17:20.72

christophknoll

Ah.

01:17:23.42

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:17:27.20

Paul

That's the only thing that's only downset to Montreal is that it's missing the salt you need salt when you add salt to Montreal oh fucking, perfect. So good? Um, but yeah, sugar sugar is a sugar's a real problem and it's just unfortunate that that they had to these marketing companies and um. I mean anybody who works in marketing and sales knows that there's there's ways around um, giving people bad and not really bad information but information that they don't want to hear. Ah, you know you don't you just don't mention it if you just don't say it shit like that like that's that's really enough to like kind of get around it and that's.

01:17:54.75

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:18:05.58

Paul

That's the reality for for these sugar companies and these candy companies and all of that is that back in the sixty s they just got around it by not mentioning it and I mean it was like a problem of cigarettes because in the sixty s they were saying that like doctors approved to cigarettes but it wasn't. That was never a case that was never the case that doctors ever approved to cigarettes. Um, there have been benefits seen from cigarettes for instance, where like it helps the constipation stuff like that but cigarettes can be extremely obviously everybody knows cigarettes are extremely addictive. So just kind of stay away from them if you can ah but they can they can help in different ways. But it's yeah, it's just it sucks it sucks that they got to put so much shit in everything and make it so so addicting I mean there's 9 teaspoons in a fucking can of of soda like that's so much sugar 9 teaspoons like that's insane like one teaspoon.

01:18:58.93

christophknoll

That's what I made the reference so made a reference of the plastic bag earlier like literally just what people should do as a little experiment is if you don't track your food track your food for a day determine How much sugar and grams or teaspoons. Ah that you intake with that. Given diet and then go and get like you know Salt is way cheaper than than sugar get like salt just for the for the physical representation because it weighs the same or roughly the same and just fill a bag with that and just show yourself how much you're actually Intaking. It's going to blow your mind.

01:19:27.13

Paul

Um, a.

01:19:34.32

Paul

And what sucks too is that like like especially for me that now that I drink equal in my coffee because that's all I put my coffee. It's just a teaspoon of equal. Um, it's like the equal and artificial sweeteners are much sweeter than sugar. So you don't have to put nearly as much in something to make it sweet where like if I were to do sugar I tried it one time where I was like okay I made a mug of equal and I made a mug with sugar I said how much sugar do I need to put into it to make it equally as sweet and it took so much sugar. For me to make it equally sweet like I had to take out some of the coffee because I had to put more sugar and I'm like okay it's about equal now and it was cane sugar. Granted it was organic cane sugar and I was like this is insane like I'd have to have like extra extra sweet if I went to Duncan's just to make it like as sweet as my like equal you know so.

01:20:07.99

christophknoll

Nope.

01:20:27.65

Paul

Like that's also a problem too is that it's not as sweet as people think it is you know which sucks. Um.

01:20:31.85

christophknoll

And that's also like sugar was built like a sugar-based diet is built on you know efficiency and being able to eat small amount of things and feel full filled up which is what sugar like added sugars. Like artificially edited sugars does for a diet you feel filled up which you aren't like and that's part of what makes it difficult in the gym world because for us when we you know tear the muscle fibers working out your body needs to repeat needs to be replenished By. You know a high protein diet directly after a workout or prior to a workout a high you know relatively high carb so you have the energy throughout your workout and if you just have a high sugar content or artificially added sugar content for your diet. Your body is. Running on fumes. Basically it starts eating at itself because it doesn't have the ability to draw the energy from anywhere else like and think of like a Camel St storeing water and it stores that water and so it can tap into it Your body stores different proteins and carbs within its body. As like the emergency fuel which is what it taps into when you have so much sugar in your diet and that's why people who experience not seeing gains or not losing the weight they want to gain or lose the weight they want to lose or gain the the weight they want to gain that is all attributed to your body not having the actual.

01:22:03.46

christophknoll

You know if you want to think of it as fuel. You don't have the proper fuel in your system to actually achieve your fitness goals. You won't even have the same you know strength levels in the gym and with one die compared to the other like a couple months back when Paul is going through keto like we we. Talked about how his energy levels sucked in the gym because it's hard to maintain you know a high energy level when you're burn or when you're just working on or your body's just burning fats for its energy which is what happens when you're on keto um and vice versa with ah with a sugar diet.

01:22:22.32

Paul

Boom.

01:22:40.85

christophknoll

Your body can't burn sugars the way it can carbs and so when you're in the gym and granted you know Candy does have carbs but it's not like clean carbs. This is what we mean by exactly and it's it's tough for your body to produce the kind of you know caloric push that.

01:22:49.92

Paul

Now it's dry.

01:22:59.27

christophknoll

It needs to to produce the energy. So if you just want if you're not locked into a into a strict diet like exist. For example, if I had you know a bag of eminems. My body would just shut down like my body knows to turn away foods that it doesn't like that aren't.

01:22:59.60

Paul

Are.

01:23:17.67

christophknoll

Peak efficiency just because of the time and like and like consistency I've had with my diet. Um I Even get it with like pizza now I can't even eat Pizza. My body will turn it off. But if you don't have a super strict diet and your body isn't going to turn away food then just try having a clean. Day where you like eat rice rice and chicken some red meat in there and see how you feel on the gym versus waking up and having like chocolate chip pancakes and then going and having you know a ah like ah a smoothie from Duncans because it tastes good like.

01:23:52.00

Paul

If.

01:23:55.50

christophknoll

And then see how your energy levels are in the gym and you will see a wild difference.

01:23:58.60

Paul

Yeah, and eating like crap too, especially when you're so used to eating like be eating clean. You don't realize how good you feel which we talked about before you feel phenomenal when you eat clean when you eat something crap like you just like it sucks and like yesterday.

01:24:06.50

christophknoll

Earth.

01:24:17.22

Paul

Um I got to write this down my meal plan for my coach but I had a bite of sinroll when we went to cinenaholic which is like a custom cine simmon roll company and I didn't have any food prior to that including protein. We just I had I was out of egg whites I was just out of like shit that I needed to make my breakfast so I was like you know, let's just go get. 7 roll and then we'll ah we'll get some coffee and then we got to run to her work and then we can run home. My wife's work and like I was so like it just I felt like crap and I felt just so depleted because I didn't have any protein in my system and like I just like. I was like man I was like I was like why do I feel like crap I was like and I haven't really eaten anything today I was like what there's something missing I'm like I'm having water I'm like I had like a bite of food like I have some carbs in my system I'm like what is it that makes me feel like crap and it was just the lack of protein. That's all it was I was just like once I realized that. Like I just started craving chicken or drinking my egg whites or whatever I was like I just need protein my system and I didn't realize how much protein really affected the way I felt until I didn't have it and I was like fuck like I really need that protein in my system and I just felt so so depleted like I had no energy. And we went to her work and I was helping her with someone her work to get ready for this week coming up. It's a long story but basically that's helping her and I like a minute fell like an hour I was like this like this really fucking sucks and I it I felt so much better when I got home and I had some chicken and egg whites.

01:25:47.97

Paul

Because I kind of combined the proteins because I was like I need this in my system. So I had chicken with a little bit of the no sugar barbecue seasoning and then just drink my egg egg combined with egg whites and I was like oh much better pass off for a half hour and I woke up and I just felt like a new man I was like this is fucking. Awesome. So. Yeah, the protein protein plays a huge huge role. Um, in the way you feel as well.

01:26:07.10

christophknoll

But Paul if you if you eat the sugar during the anabolic window the half hour after you work out. You're okay.

01:26:14.35

Paul

It doesn't actually count 8 counter racks itself. That's why that's why planet planet fitness gives you pizza and tutsie rolls and bagels on Fridays. Um, but I know it's it's like.

01:26:25.47

christophknoll

Ah, absurd.

01:26:30.48

Paul

Eating clean and then not eating clean. You'll genuinely feel a massive massive difference. But if you're only ever used to eating like shit. You're never going to know what the difference really is ah so.

01:26:38.71

christophknoll

And your but you might not even accept eating clean foods. That's why you have to make it like a gradual like it's like when you try and get someone on an addictive thing. You have to wean them off it. You can't just go cold turkey most times because it's like dangerous for your body. So like someone who's used to going to like.

01:26:49.20

Paul

Um, yes, yeah.

01:26:57.17

christophknoll

Wendy's every day for their lunch break and then you you try to shift to are you cold turkey go just Homem made meals of you know some clean ah you know? Ah I I always fall back on rice. Um, you know some kind of rice based meal.

01:27:12.28

Paul

Um.

01:27:15.10

christophknoll

Your body will probably start to really get mad at you and you might get like stomach aches and you might even get even worse sick because you're just your body's not used to the sudden change that you threw at it. Um.

01:27:27.67

Paul

We also noticed this too with like um timing of meals too like there's a lot of people that can't have breakfast because they're so used to waiting a few hours after they wake up to eat like just because of like work or whatever it is um I used to be that way before I start with my first coach.

01:27:29.40

christophknoll

Oh yeah.

01:27:43.58

Paul

I would sleep into like almost like Eleven o'clock noon every day because at the time I was just like a teenager you not didn't really care. Um, so having to wake up not really desperately wake up early but transition to eating after I wake up sucked but you have to get used to it. You have to force your body to get used to eating. And digesting food right after waking up but then once you get on that plan. You can't really get off it because when I wake up I need to have food within a half hour of waking up or else my stomach starts growling and I fucking lose energy and I feel like shit and my mood goes down like everything goes down. So. That's one of my main priorities I wake up walk the dogs give them food and then while they're eating I'm eaten and that's our routine every day. Um I walk them so that I can wake up, you know, get some fresh air. Whatever and then I'll come back in eat make my coffee and start work. But.

01:28:26.99

christophknoll

Yep.

01:28:36.70

Paul

If I don't eat within a half hour or 40 minutes or whatever it is I genuinely feel like shit and I just am so fucking hungry especially when I was when I'm low calorie like when I was low calorie um during keto or um, when I was doing any sort of cut like I had to eat after I woke up because I digested all the food I ate the night prior so even though like some of my meals in the morning like my meal used to be like some egg whites and an egg you know like just like basically eggs and I'd still just crave the shit out of that because I'm like I just need something in my stomach like that's all I need. Um. And right now I also have ezekiel bread or oatmeal. So I just drink my egg whites but at the time I had to eat them because I needed a solid substance in my stomach to tie me over till my next meal. Um, and the genuine hunger you get from like clean foods is way different from like. Jung food. You know because people don't realize that they snack so much and that's also problem mine too. Take take it a bite here. Take a bite there. Whatever but like you know I was I've always been a huge snack for my whole life so getting off that and getting to just 6 meals a day is very hard. Um, and. You know, not eating for 2 to 3 hours is very hard for a lot of people but that's also part of the process. Um and a lot of it like I tell a lot of people we're talking about today is just the first step is cutting out sugar and then from there cutting out excess junk and that just plays an enormous enormous role.

01:30:02.19

Paul

And that's why so many people like I hate this bullshit like thing where they're like oh I prefer fruit over Candy. It's like dude you're still eating a shit ton of sugar like yeah, it's naturally occurring but like you're having a gigantic bowl of fucking Fruit. You're not really supposed to have that like. You're not really supposed to just chow down a watermelon grapes and blue areas and pineapple and shit 3 times a day you know so.

01:30:24.63

christophknoll

Well, that's why that's why um you know Island people who just eat the the fruits that are around them. They're generally pretty skinny because it's It's almost like hunter gatherer type mindset because you're just eating the fruits that are there and you're literally training your body to just. Feed off of you know what carbs are available but mostly the natural sugars that are there and they're generally pretty. You know smaller people.

01:30:46.00

Paul

Yeah, yeah, the but the also the problem with that too is that they don't have a consistent source of protein. Um, so like 1 of the one of the arguable diets out there I don't really know necessarily what it's called, but basically. You kind of live almost vegetarian and then you have a meat like maybe 2 times a week you know whether that's steak or chicken or whatever. Um, because that's essentially how we used to live as neanderthals we would have the hunter gatherer like fruits, berries and vegetables and whatnot after we learn how to farm but we couldn't consistently hunt. You know we couldn't consistently eat protein. Unless we got some big ass animal and then that's when you started to bulk up and muscle and everything but very seldom was animal protein like in diets. You know it was it was a reward. You know it was it was like it was a treat to have animal protein. Um, so.

01:31:29.86

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:31:38.41

Paul

That's also something to take into account too is that that is essentially not how we're supposed to be eating like the way like the way bodybuilders eat the way we eat is not maintainable like this is not the way we're supposed to be eating as humans like this is not a good way of eating. That's why I don't say people should eat the way I eat because it is not good like. The amount of chicken I used to have now. it's not as bad as um it's it's a little over a pound but I was cooking over £2 a day like cooking like as an adjective like I was eating over £2 a day and like that's a shit ton of chicken. We're not supposed to have that much chicken like the amount of fucking like actual chickens that were dying because of me is ridiculous. Like I'd have like probably like four five maybe 6 chicken breasts a day depending on how big the breasts were and so like that's not maintainable. Um, so that's also something to take into account is that like bodybuilders on top of the drugs are also eating so much food. Like we're not supposed to eat this way. Um, even though it's clean. It's not a good way of eating It's not a good way of living. Um, so just just the general life of people should be like breakfast lunch dinner and like a small snack between breakfast and lunch and then lunch and dinner and then after dinner like that should be pretty much it. Um, until you wake up the next day that's like really the ideal way of eating. Um, so it's you know to get there. Their first step is the sugar and like I said that's the hard part but sugar affects way more than just your body fat it affects way more than just your body weight it affects your hormones as well.

01:33:13.55

Paul

Especially in women it affects their estrogen like crazy for guys it affects our estrogen and it also affects our testosterone too. Um, same with alcohol alcohol plays a huge role on our hormones so you got to be careful of stuff like that. Um I measure my blood glucose. Roughly every three days. It's every Saturday and then I do it either Tuesday or Wednesday throughout the week or each week I try to mix it up I try to do like Tuesday then Wednesday then back to Tuesday or like do Tuesday Two tuesdays in a row like but I'm almost almost always sticking around ninety six milligrams and you want to be like the same blood cucose level. Pretty consistently. Um, but as far as like hormones goes. Um it. It can reduce your hormones or your testosteroneone meat. It can reduce your testosterone in men. Ah for if you if you take a lot of sugar. It can. It can genuinely reduce it and then also increase your estrogen as well. So it's It's it kind of hurts your progress in the gym. You know if you're taking into lot sugar. Ah you can utilize sugar for the gym. You know, power lefters eat um like gummy candies and stuff that digest extremely me fast. They have the energy but that's a different story than just eating sugar while you're chilling at home. So.

01:34:23.28

christophknoll

Yeah, and that's that's a very tiered support like it's it's you utilized for a very specific reason. It's not like they're eating it because either they want to or because they want like the taste bonus they're doing it for a very specific reason to push through this set or something like that.

01:34:27.52

Paul

Yeah.

01:34:35.40

Paul

And even then there's better options too like there's there's intra workout powders that are specifically designed for that and they use dextrose which isn't even a sugar.. It's a fast digesting carb. That's not a sugar. So. There's better alternatives to just than just eating like gummy candies or something like that. Um you can even drink like um like body armor Body armor is a good example gatorades as Well. That's exactly what gtatorages are for.. It's dextros that's in them that makes them so high in calories is dextros and it helps with your workouts It helps with sports.

01:35:00.60

christophknoll

Gatorades to? yep.

01:35:09.34

Paul

Ah, keeps your endurance and stmina up so that's just like which is funny to mention because people forget that about Gatorade gatorade is designed for intro workout energy and people forget that people just drink it just regularly.

01:35:20.64

christophknoll

Yep, my my coach has it in my my workouts like it is specifically as an intra because you know also balancing. You know the the budgetary restrictions that that my lifestyle has like.

01:35:26.69

Paul

Yeah.

01:35:36.14

christophknoll

I can't afford to be buying. You know the top tier intraworkout powders or whatnot so our alternative is you know, just go spend six bucks on a 12 pack of gatorade. You know so.

01:35:37.85

Paul

Yeah, yeah, yeah, a gator is very cheap for what it is if you really think about it as like an intraworkout drink. It's very cheap.

01:35:48.53

christophknoll

I will say though for anybody who's considering using gatorade as an intraworkout. You can't get the the zero sugar gatorade options because when you take out the the sugar aspect of the gatorade. You lose all the carbs. There's like 1 one gram of carbs in there.

01:36:05.23

Paul

Yeah I mean they're smart for making it though. Yeah, they're targeted the people who just drink it like regularly like just for flavor which is good like sometimes I crave a gatorade like there's times where I crave a gator in and buy the sugar does your sugar one. Um, just for the flavor. But.

01:36:08.52

christophknoll

Or whatever it is. Yeah absolutely yeah.

01:36:21.46

christophknoll

Yep.

01:36:22.99

Paul

You also want to stay away from the frost ones too. Um, the the different shaped bottles. They're like kind of like an hourglass almost um, those ones are just very high sugar so you want to buy this specifically the G Two s or the regular gatorades. Yeah yeah, those.

01:36:28.74

christophknoll

Yeah. Or just yeah, just regular standard stuff.

01:36:39.27

Paul

And if you read the label one of the top ingredients is go be dexrose and that's the one that you want. Um I think there there are sugars in it. Um, yeah, yes, but yes, um, but the dextro is what you you're getting it for.

01:36:46.87

christophknoll

There's a lot of sugar and goid and that's a 1 downside for it or artificially added is I'll say yes.

01:36:56.74

Paul

Um, but that's also where body armor came into play body armor cue to play as as another alternative to that. It's more expensive but you can also get like you can get a bottle of body armor for roughly a dollar um not the bigger bottles but like you know one of the like the sixteen ounces or whatever twenty ounces whatever they are um.

01:37:10.51

christophknoll

Yeah, if you have like a wholesale near you like Bjs or Costco or something like that you can probably find pretty good bulk like here around here the the bjs price you can get pretty low prices for like the sixteen ounce body armors.

01:37:23.40

Paul

Yeah I think body armor at Walmart I think is a dollar bottle something like that I think it's lower if you go to a wholesale place like that. But I think like but what's also good about Walmart is that you're not buying a case of it. You can buy individual bottles for a dollar. Um, you be bought. You can have different flavors but.

01:37:38.76

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:37:43.44

Paul

Um, that's where body body armor came about and that's where like prime is trying to sit is they're like oh we're compared to Gatorade. We have all these different electro lighttes or no, they compare themselves to liquid I v 2 they're like oh commit a liquid I e bubbleh and it's like prime is not really efficacious in any way. It's. Kind of like the opposite of liquid ive like never the opposite but like liquid I v has its place and they're not They're kind of pushing towards ah sports a little bit but it's not really kind of what people in sports or bodybuilding or anything use liquid IV4 um for those that don't know liquid iv drip drop whatever you want to call it. Whatever brand it is that you use. Um it helps with your body retaining water. So ah, it's a powder that you mix into a drink sometimes they're pre-bottled. Um, it helps your body with so you drink like let's say like a sixty ounce water bottle. Put liquid iv in there that sixteen ounce water bottle will make you feel like you've had water for a longer period of time. Yeah, whatever it is um but it's like it helps with um, it helps with dehydration.

01:38:44.75

christophknoll

It's actually twenty four ounces now

01:38:55.82

Paul

Ah, so if you're going to be so like. For instance, if like let's say you have like a 2 hour game of something whatever it is and you have like a bottle of liquid iv prior to that. Um you bottled water with some liquid iv you're going to not feel as dehydrated. Ah throughout that. Game or sport whatever it is that you're playing as you would have if you just drink regular water but that's not to say that you shouldn't be drinking more water. It just helps you with not feeling dehydrated. Um, so prime comparing to liquid iv is kind of dumb because I'm not going to drink prime so that I can feel like you know, not as dehydrated. Um, I've I've never even tried prime in the first place but um, their place is just like kind of like an a different option in comparison to gatorade but gatorade' has been around for so long. It's just a better priced option and in my opinion. It's better price and you have more flavor opportunities and all of that especially in the u k. Any of our Uk listeners will know what prime is um, prime is almost like a status symbol over in the Uk if you have prime, you're the shit. Um, it's kind of like I don't know it's kind of like gum back in middle school.

01:40:02.57

christophknoll

Well I was going to say it has almost the opposite effect here in the states because whenever something goes mainstream and it's just like the hype show people think that you're drinking it just because of the hype show whereas like people doing.

01:40:14.96

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:40:20.80

christophknoll

But we're doing here it like when I drink G rated in my workout I'm not doing it because I want to show people I'm drinking gator and I want to do it because I'm specifically drinking the gatorated for the different levels that I'm getting from it. It's it's so you just have to battled with the the mindset side of things.

01:40:30.22

Paul

Yeah.

01:40:37.90

Paul

Yeah, and I mean it just sucks that I mean so like prime I think is like it is distributed and owned by an actual like energy drink or not I need you drink like a botling company. But I think like 20% of it is owned by Logan Paul and Kai I think um.

01:40:53.29

Paul

So it's something like that percent that you forget what it is um or is it Kay I forget his name the Uk guy Ksi it's not Kai Ksi um so they own like 20% of it or something which is part of their sponsorship deal is that they get like equity in the company. So it's tied to them because it's an influencer brand they use influencer marketing.

01:40:59.14

christophknoll

Ksi Ksi yeah

01:41:13.60

Paul

Um, which has worked but in the states here people don't really like Logan Paul so so it's hard to like kind of support the company because we don't want to support Logan Paul um that's my opinion and that's also kind of like comes back to um, like.

01:41:13.54

christophknoll

Ah.

01:41:18.45

christophknoll

So.

01:41:32.36

Paul

He he did a video comparison between like I think it was one with gatorade and prime and then also one with liquid I v and prime and he just had no idea what the fuck he was talking about um and more place more dates did kind of dissect that video. So if you guys are interested check out that video from him but it's none of it's really like. As efficacious as they say it is and the way they target it is. They're like oh we have one more we have like ten more milligrams of electrolytes or whatever in comparison to like liquid iv but it's like the actual type of electrolytes is not as high quality or efficacious as like liquid iv is like there's a reason that they have. Specific number. Um, where with prime with everything in the in the bottle they specifically hit like a little bit above the competition to argue that they're better than the competition but they're not talking about the actual ingredients themselves just the the quantity of it. So that's what. Dere kind of really dissected was like yeah you might have like technically more but doesn't necessarily mean it's better. You know? Um, so you know that's why I kind of stay away from prime The only reason I bought prime energy drinks is because of a dollar bottle or a dollar can at vitamin shop right now which I I take advantage of. Really really good deal. Yeah I don't buy and really on occasion i' buy an energy drink but I really just rely on the vitamin shop $1 deals which are awesome I love the $1 deals at vitamin shop. Um, but yeah, so I bought some of those.

01:42:44.97

christophknoll

At at Heart we're still the ah the the bargain hunters.

01:43:00.64

christophknoll

Yeah, the only the only ah energy drink I'll do one energy drink a week just on my Saturday nights when I'm with all the guys just because I've had a long week of work and Saturdays I'm getting you know my personal work done.

01:43:12.33

Paul

Me.

01:43:17.67

christophknoll

And by the end of the day I'm you know I'm with them from like 8 in the afternoon to midnight and like that period of time is just a tough window to stay awake. So I do um I'll do a rain energy but I do the the the zero sugar thermogenic one that they have um yeah and that's.

01:43:26.52

Paul

Death. Interesting that you picked a thermogenic One. No.

01:43:35.93

christophknoll

Yeah that's just the the one that I I mean of course I'm reading every label and I refuse to take in more artificial sugars than the gatorade that I'm drinking like that that the the gatorade that I drink per and I only have it on workouts. Excuse me has thirty five grams of sugar but well between 33 and 35 um and that's like the max I want to be in taking for like the entire day. Everything else is tiered to not have any like a little bit of like you know, natural sugar is like I'll have an Apple at some point in the day.

01:43:54.61

Paul

A.

01:44:01.27

Paul

Mean.

01:44:11.32

christophknoll

Um, but for the most part it's completely cut out. So this particular energy drink like I I know you know of all the different energy drinks that are in the shelves and um I personally stay away from all C4 products just because I hate the hype train that's with c four. So I stay and also I've reacted badly to c four workout. Ah, pre-workout. So I tend to I just didn't get anything out of it like it wasn't like a negative reaction where I was like hurling. It was just I took it and it was like 1 it tastes like shit and 2 it's like I'm not actually getting the either the spider tingles or the focus or the pump that I want out of my workout.

01:44:33.10

Paul

How so okay, ah.

01:44:48.24

Paul

Earth.

01:44:50.56

christophknoll

Um, so I have my different my I I have different pre-workouts now that are way better. Um, but yeah I just when looking in the store I saw of them and rain was one I didn't know too too much about So I did a little bit of research and their zero sugar option is pretty decent. So.

01:45:05.84

Paul

Yeah I like rain they have really good flavors. Um I think they are just the Pre- Bottletd shit like um I I don't think they actually have like a powder I think they started off as like a Pre- bottlet drink. But um, yeah, rain's good.

01:45:09.49

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:45:22.55

Paul

Why is it that you picked the um thermogenic specifically E Four no.

01:45:26.55

christophknoll

Ah, well one the the zero sugar and two the can just look cooler if I'm being completely honest.

01:45:30.33

Paul

Yeah I mean I personally I've always stayed away from the thermogenic just because I don't want um, increased body temperature whenever I drink an energy drink I don't want to like but I like their their flavors are really really good. Their orange Dream Sickle is phenomenal. Um, and I love their white gummy bear as well. That one's really really good.

01:45:37.38

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:45:49.18

Paul

Um, but yeah I mean I only get I just get the $1 bottles when they have the sale. They had 1 from a brand called lost and found recently which is it tastes really good. The only problem with loss and found for some reason is that they put a lot of like color dye like food dye. And the drinks to make the color of the drink like the liquid the actual color of the flavor. So like but like it makes no sense because it's in a like non- see through can like what's the point you know?? Um, so that's the only problem that I have with um with that brand specifically. But um.

01:46:10.47

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:46:26.15

Paul

Yeah I loved the zero sugar energy drinks. The caffeine also helps a lot like I've said with my eightydd so that helps a lot with for me and that's why um I drink a lot of coffee. Not a lot I guess like a couple mugs a day and then like I usually have like why don't you drink and then I have my pre-work out. Um for me. The c four pre-bottd pre-workout is actually not bad. Um this the regular C 4 um has a little bit of beta alanine in it. So that's fine for like ah um, like a leg day like legs I have to stay away from any sort of pump preworkout. So I don't mind like the c four pre bottletd for that but their c four ultimate's not bad. Um. It's just the regular c four. That's way overhyped. Um the c four ultimates like the only actually like efficacious pre workout that they have in my opinion. Um, but that's that's you know that's a whole nother conversation. But. Yeah, pretty well in energy drinks I like how they're going in the direction of zero sugar. It's good I'm really happy that they're doing that and that's kind of where bang came from bang kind of started it um, which started from a bet a lost bet apparently is what the rumor is um.

01:47:32.40

christophknoll

What the company started with the lost butt.

01:47:36.13

Paul

Yeah, so the actual brand is um, shit. What's the actual brand I forget what it's called. There's an actual It's ah it's like a the brand that owns bang has other um, let me look it up has other um, ah supplements as well. Um, let me see who owns it. The guy who owns Bain owns that company. Um I think it's vpx is a vps vpx I think um so it's ah it's an actual brand um area like company that owns the brands. So. Bang came about supposedly because the guy who owned bang like lost a bet and to like make up the money he had to come up with like a new source of income because red line which is the pre-bottled company that is for like pre-work out. Um is. Red line extreme was like their only product so he's like I need another source of income to make up for this bet. Supposedly this is what I heard supposedly. Um so he made bang and had like a few flavors come out and then it just fucking skyrocketed into the stratosphere. As far as like popularity goes because there was 0 sugar like basically no calorie and it was extremely sweet. So um, people were buying it because there's a great alternative to what they were having before so that would be like sugared energy drinks. So it was just the newest thing on the market. Um.

01:49:06.80

Paul

But yeah, that's kind of where it came about which is a funny story but it is owned by a bigger company which is called vpx. Um.

01:49:13.16

christophknoll

Hey hey want a bang j k my name's Kyle.

01:49:19.20

Paul

Ah, sort dumb. Of course it to Kyle um, but they did lose like a 1 point something billion dollar lawsuit to monster because they're claiming that the the owner kept claiming that on the supercre team was reversing mental retardation. Um, so they.

01:49:32.60

christophknoll

Oh g.

01:49:36.59

Paul

Monsters sued them like into the fucking of bolivion. Um, they ended up winning like over a billion dollars from it and that's how they're able to create their hard drink monsters like hard ah alcohol drink. Um, so yeah, so it's not super readily available. It's only like four or 5 states that has it. But.

01:49:48.32

christophknoll

I didn't know that they made that.

01:49:56.54

Paul

Um I was talking to one of the salespeople about it and.

01:49:59.73

christophknoll

That's like that's like the the old the O G Four lokos. There was an energy drink. Yeah.

01:50:04.78

Paul

Essentially yeah, yeah, that's why it's only approved in a few states so far but they're trying to get more but back in September last year I was talking to someone about it and he said yeah they're about to win the case they're going to get awarded like a billion or something and he said they're going to put that money into finishing up the alcohol drink. And that's exactly what was what happened I think you came out in December or something. But um, yeah, it's just like a seltzer. Essentially that's mixed with their energy drinks. Um, but yeah, it's it's pretty cool. Pretty good situation for monsters specifically for them to win that. But um. It really almost like killed bang entirely. So um.

01:50:44.35

christophknoll

Lesson kids the drink that you drink does not affect your mental state or not your mental state your your mental. Ah, but yeah that that Jesus Christ

01:50:47.54

Paul

Yeah, retardation. Yeah, he was like it's going to reverse rent of retardation. They're like they're doing him music I don't mean it like reverse. She's like I might like slow it down. It's like dude what the fuck are you talking about? There's no proof of any of that. Super Crete's not even a thing. It's like um.

01:51:07.73

christophknoll

100% that dude is friends with theo von and just takes what that dude says as Gospel even though theovan's a like just a goof. Yeah.

01:51:17.30

Paul

Yeah, he he was talking about eating a vietnamese man and I don't think we should really be taking a lot of advice from theovan but yeah, he in in they're like claiming supercretes a thing. It's just like it's almost nothing in the can and it's creating binded with like um, ah and. Ah nc l as aine or something I forget what it is. It's binded with but it's like this own. It's like the first time anybody's ever done that so they're like oh it's superre routine but it's not actually nothing efficacious. It's like five milligrams of that shit. It's like almost nothing so it doesn't actually really do anything but.

01:51:53.95

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:51:54.30

Paul

Um, and then like the co cut 10 like just the co cut 10 in in bang is so minute like it's you might as well. Not even imagine it's even in there but they just put it in there for like marketing. Um, so' that's all marketing is guys is just doing just enough to be able to say shit.

01:52:12.52

christophknoll

Sister.

01:52:13.81

Paul

Like that's that's really all it is um, but yeah, that's how they got that on the can is just ah, barely anything in there. Um, but like I said they were the first like really like big energy drink on the market that um, kind of took over for a While. Um. And there's a big threat to the energy drink companies that were already out like Red Bull Monster Um Nos stuff like that. Um, but yeah it Ah I like the direction that it's going In. Um, but I Also don't like the direction that pre-workout companies are going in where they're like. A lot of them starting to focus on pre-bottled shit. Um, and that's not the way I Want my pre-work out I don't want my pre-work out already bottled I Want to mix it with other shit. So But let's just hope that they don't keep going that way but the only time we'll tell but the gist of what we're saying is that you need ah you should cut out sugar.

01:53:02.17

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:53:07.83

Paul

Um, besides naturally occurring sugars. It's going to suck. Yeah yeah, only have like a certain amount you know I have three ounces of blueberries and three ounces of pineapple every day. Um, so obviously like pin it back as much as you can um and have efficacious doses or efficacious amounts.

01:53:08.81

christophknoll

But even that should be limited.

01:53:27.90

Paul

Of naturally occurring sugars that are healthy for you. Um, and just cut out. You're going to have you're going to have withdrawals if you have a lot of sugar. It's going to suck and trust me I know what? that's like and it sucks um keto flu sucks I know what? that's like as well. So it's not going to be fun. But when you push through it. You're going to feel much better in general and you're never like my my biggest problem is chocolate I've said that a million times I have such a fucking han cream for chocolate and anything coconut flavored so like Almond joy is my fucking weakness. So. Cutting that shit out is going to be hard but you're going to never like once you cut it out. You're not going to crave it anymore. It's gonna be that much easier to maintain it. Um like I crave chocolate constantly and if I feed into it. It's it's only going to be worse. It's only going to make me want more and then all of a sudden you know I could potentially be like four hundred five hundred calories in to a fucking like if I just sit down and eat chocolate like you could just bang out four hundred calories without even realizing it and you don't even feel full like it's just you don't even realize it so um, cut it out. Best you can and find alternatives so you don't have to necessarily not have things that are sweet.

01:54:27.32

christophknoll

Yep.

01:54:36.67

Paul

You know if you replace sugar with equal. That's okay, obviously have it moderation but like putting equal in your coffee versus sugar that will go a long way. You know that'll that'll take out a lot of calories out of your day um or like instead of you know, getting a frapuccino or something like in. Let's say you get a frapucino. From Starbucks or something just get like a regular coffee and put like a little bit of caramel in there I know it's not as good, but it's a step in the right direction. You know you don't have to go go turk. Yeah, even if you don't like coffee just black just just black coffee. That's it. But.

01:55:01.68

christophknoll

Now everybody everybody just drink black coffee and water. That's all you need.

01:55:13.50

Paul

Real I mean that's any bodybuilder will say that That's all you can really have by the time your your show is coming around is black coffee and water. Um, but yeah, just just try to cut it out The best way you can and if that means baby steps then do it. You know if it means cutting out this and then or replacing it with this then do it. It's just whatever you can get to do. Whatever you can do to get sugar out of your diet is what's ideal but do not do a full elimination Diet. Don't do a reverse people have done that and they've gotten hurt where they cut out fucking everything and slowly add shit back in just cut out bad shit. That's all you're going to do if you cut out the bad Shit. You'll just you'll make a lot more progress than you think you're going to make.

01:55:34.95

christophknoll

Um, yep.

01:55:48.95

christophknoll

Yeah, and that really just stems down to discipline and discipline is what you need in the gym like motivation will last for a day or 2 discipline lasts a lifetime so you just need to be able to focus down and actually decide what's best for you and make that a priority.

01:55:51.43

Paul

So. Death.

01:56:00.86

Paul

Is.

01:56:07.17

Paul

Absolutely.

01:56:08.86

christophknoll

And that's ultimately at the end of the day what you need to do you need to make a decision for yourself. You can listen what we say but ultimately that comes down to you and you have to buckle down and be an adult.

01:56:22.14

Paul

Yeah, it's like what Arnold says he's like do you want to be like everybody else you know or do you want to be yeah I can smoke mytokey anywhere I want I get a follow rules like you. Ah.

01:56:24.91

christophknoll

Or do you want to be like me unlike you.

01:56:37.30

Paul

Um, no, but he says he he that was part of his motivation for bodybuilding was he didn't want to be like everybody else. He wanted to be somebody unique somebody different. Um, so do you want to be like everybody else or do you want to be someone unique somebody different somebody who stands out in a crowd. Um, and his first step getting there is cutting out sugar.

01:56:54.47

christophknoll

It.

01:56:56.30

Paul

You don't have to be like us. Yeah bears. Ah um, were before we started the session we were referencing Joe Rogan animal noises so that's that's where that came from that's why it was blurted out like that bear swat and a mus his back.

01:57:11.70

christophknoll

Lives right.

01:57:14.73

Paul

I Love as animal noises. Oh yeah, oh yeah I think about that on a daily basis. It makes me happy every time. Um, but yeah, just just do everything you guys can? um obviously it's gonna be hard. It's not gonna be easy, but you just gotta do it and there's no other way to say it.

01:57:16.74

christophknoll

Ah lives lives rent-free in our heads.

01:57:34.44

Paul

You know, obviously like for those that around you that you want to help you know you can only help them so much they have to do it for themselves. You know, um, don't waste your energy trying to convince someone of something. Um, all you can do is do that for yourself so put in the time put in the energy and it'll it'll pay your energy and your focus.

01:57:48.26

christophknoll

Yep.

01:57:54.44

Paul

Into something we'll pay you back in return down the road. Ah so if you cut out sugar now a year from now you're gonna meet a way different place if you kept sugar in your diet so consider that no ah.

01:58:03.98

christophknoll

Listen, It's about drive. Its well power.

01:58:12.15

Paul

Never Doingne Johnson will never be a good music artist ever stop? Oh I hate that so much I hate it so much. Ah, we'll see you guys later. Thanks for listening see yep.

01:58:14.73

christophknoll

We we got to stay hungry we devour but ah guys with that. We're gonna we're gonna log up for today guys bye everybody.


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