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HGH #42 - Traveling on a Meal Plan


00:00.00

Stoph

You have the The P O V angle right now too have looking down and up. Yeah, this is ah this is a prime angle for everybody to see me.

00:02.79

christophknoll

Yes, down low yeah looking up at you now. Yeah.

00:12.30

christophknoll

Yeah, mine, mine's up in like the corner still so there you go perfect. Um I used to I used to set my shit like real low like kind of like almost down at my knees. But.

00:17.13

Stoph

This is this is my my posing angle I set the camera down at the ground.

00:27.92

christophknoll

I started to set it up higher just more like eye level. Yeah, yeah, exactly that's how it was for me I bought like a sixty inch tripod or something something like that and before that I was resting it on like a foam roller.

00:28.78

Stoph

I Mean that's how I used to do it because I just had my phone but then I bought a tripod and now I can do anything I want so you know.

00:46.70

christophknoll

Like my phone just on a foam roller and that was the angle I was doing but then I did like a test and I send it to chewy I think and I was like do you like the lower one or the higher one and he he is like yeah duffy the the higher one. It's like I bet so ever since then I've done the same setting of my triappli pretty much every single time.

00:46.72

Stoph

A.

01:02.82

Stoph

Yeah I still need to find a tripod for my like legit professional camera because I have one that lets me do vertler um, horizontal angle like for wide frame but I want vertical so I can have like Instagram Reel type pictures and videos and stuff like that.

01:11.35

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:20.70

christophknoll

Yep.

01:20.76

Stoph

Um, so I need a I need to get a tripod that can support a camera flipped on its side and.

01:26.46

christophknoll

Yeah, you just need to um mine mine flips on that side to do vertical and horizontal for my phone and it has a gopro attachment but it doesn't have the one eighth screw or whatever that like is universal for for cameras but they're pretty usually pretty.

01:32.66

Stoph

Yeah, well it also it it has to have like a solid base too because that's a heavy as thing to have your camera flipped over on its side. It almost has to have like a counterweight.

01:41.67

christophknoll

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, might be more expensive because of that or have a wider base or something for the for the tripod. Yeah, you have to like open it up like an umbrella.

01:53.31

Stoph

It's it's like ah it's like a twelve foot platform I take just from hitch ipod.

02:01.23

christophknoll

Just like you just like knock people out when you open up your tripod. Yeah yeah, you just it's like built in you just like pull it out. It's like some sort of like secret Tripod you're like oh only I can use this.

02:05.93

Stoph

You know there's the the Turf area Empire I Just take the entire turf. Yeah, ah so.

02:19.68

christophknoll

Ah, gotten in with the owners. Yeah exactly. But how is the ah ah.

02:22.61

Stoph

Yeah, shut shad lets me use this no is funny. Ah well empire had they did a photo shoot the other day and they turned off 1 of the fans to do the photo shoot I don't know if it was like to just make no like out.

02:32.79

christophknoll

Um, yeah, are.

02:38.75

Stoph

External force for the person who was getting ah filmed or whatever but they turned it off in them and they didn't turn it on for the rest of the night so it got steamy over in the pull-down corner.

02:41.49

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah. Oh ba yeah was it that that chick that they posted recently because there's some like an Instagram post post like just all 1 girl for like 4 different things. Okay, yeah.

02:56.18

Stoph

Yeah I saw that I don't I don't know I wasn't there for the photo shoots I couldn't tell you.

03:03.94

christophknoll

It's interesting that they do that Sometimes it just like a right amass person.

03:05.20

Stoph

Yeah, they they also do member Shoutouts which is nice but they haven't done one in a while but the member Shoutouts is always cool or they just they just like take just someone who's there like literally I'm I'm guessing they just walk in with a camera and go you look cool and then they take.

03:11.47

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah I can appreciate that. Yeah.

03:20.76

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, that'd be that'd be dope to be kind of included on that. But um, yeah I saw that post and I was like there's like nothing really in the caption that like pointed to why they recorded her specifically usually be like oh it's the.

03:23.42

Stoph

Pictures and videos of you ask you some questions then you just go home.

03:39.60

christophknoll

She's like a trainer or like she works front desk or whatever but it's just like it's just like a basic. What's that yeah I was like it just was like a basic caption I was like all right I mean if they want to post her that's fine. It was just yeah for real.

03:41.14

Stoph

Yeah I can tell you she doesn't train. She doesn't train or work the desk there I can tell you that. But.

03:56.70

Stoph

Slay queen Jesus it's good I have never felt more in with my workouts before I prd on squats Yesterday didn't even plan to but I just walked in.

03:59.48

christophknoll

Clay. How's the arnold training going though.

04:06.70

christophknoll

Yeah.

04:13.88

Stoph

I did like 2 warm upsets a working set and I was like oh I feel it today and I did 3 55 for 2 which for me is the since since I started recording pr weights that's the highest I've squatted before so ah. That's that that that got me going. Um and I don't know what it is I just have a lot of strength I mean I okay I know what it is. It's super intense training and it forces muscle and longevity to um so like because not not just like.

04:32.58

christophknoll

That's just up. Yeah.

04:42.37

christophknoll

Actual food. Yeah.

04:50.15

Stoph

How long the workout is but how many days because I'm doing every muscle group twice a week basically and that forces my muscles to really kick it into gear and I'm able to I I don't know I just feel great with it. Um, and yeah.

04:55.10

christophknoll

The.

05:02.86

christophknoll

I Mean you're shocking your body you're doing something that you're not normally supposed to be doing So your body's like yo what the fuck. Yeah, it's it's your shot. You're literally shocking it So you're making progress right now and that's what's that's what's good like that's I had to change up mind.

05:08.66

Stoph

I Mean just just back is a weird split.

05:20.60

christophknoll

Simply changing my ref range has changed my entire workout basically and I leave feeling differently than I used to you know? So I mean the littlest changes sometimes.

05:25.52

Stoph

Yeah I mean I still have yeah I still have my progressive overload. So like I'm doing every single week either a little bit more like 1 or 2 reps maybe adding the two and a half pound plate or something like that and just slowly building it up more and more. Um. But like for example, the last deadlifts I know I can deadlift 3 plates. No problem. But the deadlift is put as the very last exercise after the chest and back workout which is absurd and so three I do a 10 6 4 split

05:52.51

christophknoll

Um.

05:56.43

christophknoll

I.

06:04.53

Stoph

So you fail at 10 fail at 6 fail at 4 and so I just do 1 2 3 for plates not that I fail at 10 But the first one's a good like you know, warm up working set and then I ah 6 decide. Yeah I fail right around 6 for 2 plates because by this point I'm cooked and so three plates for me.

06:19.43

christophknoll

A yeah.

06:22.98

Stoph

To do four I was like Jesus Christ and this past one I did five so it's like just progressively putting it up and up a little bit more and more um and it's it's great I know that in a couple weeks when ago and I talked to my coach or former coach again and talked to him about coming back.

06:27.89

christophknoll

Yeah.

06:41.66

Stoph

And we'll go back to his stuff but but then it'll be foreign enough to me that switching back to it will give me you know, better results again because I'll be changing up my system again. Yeah exactly.

06:47.72

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, be shocking it again. Yeah, and you'd be changing up your food and everything too your body go through your body will fucking go through it for a week at least probably a couple weeks.

06:58.12

Stoph

Yeah.

07:01.36

christophknoll

Um, your digestion is going to shift your your recovery is going to shift. You're going to probably feel tired and exhausted. But then you'll get used to it once your body learns how to properly use the nutrition you take it in the the car carbohydrate partitioning um glucose but disposal stuff like that. So.

07:08.37

Stoph

Yeah, um.

07:19.64

christophknoll

It'll it'll adjust and that'll be that'll be interesting. Yeah.

07:20.60

Stoph

Yeah I mean the 1 thing I will say when I go back to them is that my diet right now works I'm gaining weight I have energy in the gym. So I'm gonna tell them be like make minor changes because what I have right now is working and I never gain weight like it's taken me years to find something that works.

07:38.63

christophknoll

Yeah.

07:40.54

Stoph

So well I'll work with them. But ah I'll have almost like a list of demands for things like that I want to see this time around because obviously me and him just didn't work last time and a lot of it was me not having the mindset and the schedule like.

07:47.58

christophknoll

Yeah, so.

07:57.24

Stoph

To be able to support it. But I've made changes in my life to open up that whole aspect of of bodybuilding. So I know we'll see.

08:02.66

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, I was I was watching this video the other day that made me think of you and I forgot to text you about it. Um I think it was Dave Polumbo I was watching I've been watching a lot of his like older content that he's posted throughout the years and um a lot of his podcast stuff is kind of bullshit he yeah he talks to some of the most retarded fucking coaches and shit ever. They'd be like oh Mcdonald is like a daily requirement when the offs and it's bullshit. But anyways he has a lot of like hyperfocus videos like like before I started kle I watched his video. Where he was talking about like proper doses of Klan and how it works and his recommendation stuff like that. Um, so I was watching this video and you were just talking about I think you talking about like what it takes to get through prep and one of the things you mentioned is that when you're a body boder. He's like. 1 injury will set you back so far and he's like so he's like it's something that I had to kind of accept getting into it because he's like I was doing other sports at the same time and like the littlest injury from another sport set me back in the gym for bodybuilding so he's like when you're bodybuilding. That is the only sport you can do. He's like you can't do any other sports in conjunction because it'll set you back so far, especially when you're doing something like prep where you have to be dialed in for weeks and months at a time. A little injury is going to set you back and probably make you lose the show so like he had to like kind of cut that shit out.

09:20.55

Stoph

Um.

09:32.83

christophknoll

And that's it just reminded me of you because you had your injury from basketball or you jammed your finger or whatever it was and then you had something with yeah yeah, well I mean it like wasn't it. You were like you like jammed it or something That's what broke it.

09:39.50

Stoph

Broke my finger. Oh yeah, so I got knocked unconscious and I fell on my hand and my full body weights not the ah the pinking bone. So ah.

09:51.32

christophknoll

Yeah, that's those's what I thought yeah it was like a like a pressure it wasn't like a like it wasn't like um, a bend. It was like a pressure that snapped it. Um, so yeah, so it just remember it just reminded me of that and ah.

10:00.78

Stoph

Yeah.

10:08.12

christophknoll

Like how you have to kind of evolve your life around it. Um, Seebom. They'd actually talk about that I haven't gone all the way through it yet I'm watching in that podcast episode with um, that guy everybody probably knows what I'm talking about it just came out Monday um, it's 2 hours long ah so I'm about halfway through now. And he' talking about how like how stressful it is blah blah blah and one of the things he said is that he's like right out to the show. It's just it's just he's like I really focus on my girlfriend or my his fiance now where it was his girlfriend last year but he's like my my what my fiancee because I neglect her for basically like three months

10:43.93

Stoph

Ah, yeah.

10:44.51

christophknoll

And I'm like that's how it is like your life literally evolves around it and like I'm getting I'm four weeks out and my life is starting to more and more evolve around it. So like that's why you were like oh I just I just can't like like you're like I can't get the food in like that was your problem and I'm like That's why I was like if you can't do that then you're not going to like like basically I agreed with everything you and your coach were saying. It's like you got to be able to do at least the food in order to do the rest of it and there's so much more on top of that that you have to be able to do in order to prioritize bodybuilding um and it really truly does like take over your life if you really. If you really want to get out there with it and do well with it. It really does take over your life. So um I went through it so I'm seeing you go through it and I know what it's like it's not fun. It's it's hard to accept a lot of the stuff you have to cut out.

11:34.61

Stoph

Yeah I mean that's what ah the big thing is cutting it out like I already spoke with one of the teams that I play with for soft on I said I told them this is my last season I'm not returning next year

11:38.38

christophknoll

Yeah, but.

11:44.40

christophknoll

Yeah, my.

11:47.24

Stoph

I Normally stream a lot too and I haven't streamed in a month like I I was making money streaming and I just cut it out because I needed the time for this and it's It's just a big change and ah well I need to do it couple months back. But now I'm.

11:56.70

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

11:59.15

christophknoll

Are.

12:05.46

Stoph

I Have no reason not to so I'm just balls to the wall with it.

12:07.50

christophknoll

Yeah, no, it's it's very hard and it takes a lot mentally to cut those things out. The first thing I cut was skiing especially during the winter because when I would ski.

12:19.54

Stoph

A.

12:21.33

christophknoll

Was skiing almost every weekend you can ask Nick I was him and I went skiing almost every single weekend at a mountain Vermont and New Hampshire Massachusetts whatever it is um, almost every single weekend and then when I started getting into the gym and started like bodybuilding. Um I was just too tired I just was. I was recovering and I was just putting 2 hours in the gym every day and working and all of that I was just like I just can't do it just it just slowly slipped away to the point where I just wasn't going anymore and like a whole season went by where I didn't go once and I was like yeah, that's it I just can't ski anymore I want to now like just for like. Like like once a year maybe go for like a few days or like a week in Colorado or something every year like that'd be great, but um, it's not something that I can do consistently and then same with the motorcycle like if it wasn't for bodybuilding I could have probably afforded my motorcycle still minus the insurance insurance was ridiculous, but um.

13:01.15

Stoph

Um, yeah man. Um.

13:16.70

christophknoll

Like I cut that out because on top of not just it taking up tons of money and wanting to put more money towards bodybuilding. It was also just very injury prone I mean the smallest little crash. You can get very very injured. And then on top of that you can die very easily in the way that I was riding. It's very easy for me to kill myself. So um, the smallest slip up a lot of the time when I was riding would I would end up dying so it just wasn't It wasn't worth it Anymore. At that point I'd rather just focus on bodybuilding and that was that was extremely hard for me to give up because it was. Like I'm such an adrenaline Junkie. It's just how I've always been so like that was really hard for me to cut out So I Totally know what you're going through. It's It's not easy. That's why I'm always like you just this is just what you gotta do like you just gotta eat more. You just gotta to focus more on you got to put more time into it. It's but again. What you put into it. You get out of it as Well. So um.

14:11.35

Stoph

Yeah, yeah, the the the gym is the most honest form of I don't know feedback and any any kind of anything you want to call it because what you get out is precisely what you put in nothing more nothing less So you.

14:25.57

christophknoll

More Yeah, exactly and granted that what's what I'm glad about is that Anabolics has given me the the open door in order for me to actually compete and be competitive in the sport where without it.

14:29.17

Stoph

You either have it or you don't.

14:45.37

christophknoll

Ah, wouldn't have been competitive. So if you're someone who is like me who not not you stuff but just someone listening if you're someone who doesn't have the natural genetics to compete and you don't want to touch anabolics which I recommend you don't it's I mean anybody who's on anabolics would recommend against it ideally. But. Um, you don't want to touch it something that a lot of guys have to accept. It's just that they're not going to be competitive and they're not going to get where they want to go no matter how hard they try it. Some of it's just comes on genetics and that's how it was for me like maybe if I put I could have put probably another like 5 years

15:24.30

christophknoll

Genetically and I probably would have been like my look after 1 year of anabolics like that's like it would have taken so much more time and effort like if I probably put ten more years into the gym. Naturally I might be like a tad maybe a tad bigger.

15:29.17

Stoph

Um, me.

15:42.72

christophknoll

But I wouldn't look the way that I look because you get the enhanced you get enhanced look. There's a look that you get with anabolics and I'm very happy to be able to have the opportunity to compete at potentially a professional level within the next couple years. So.

15:43.97

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

16:01.27

christophknoll

There's a lot that you have to sacrifice but at least I don't have to sacrifice quitting this at least which is good. But I think that um time will tell as far as how your genetics plays out. Because it took me a while to figure out my Genetics. So I'm I'm curious to see what ends up happening as you figure out your genetics. Yeah.

16:21.77

Stoph

Yeah I mean I've always been a very very natural athlete like anything that I want to do I can do very easily and then get good at it pretty easily as well. Um, so the gym was more so just finding like. You know training- wise finding the proper form and everything like it took me a while to get deadlift form and proper form for like a overhead press for shoulders or stuff like that. But once I get the form down. It's it's bread and butter like I know what I'm doing and I'm a workhorse so it's not like I'm cheating myself in the gym.

16:46.62

christophknoll

Like that.

16:57.23

Stoph

And fact I even brought my brother. My brother who stands at the same height I am but he sp I don't know if I weigh 2 to 10 He's I know probably like £80 now may it seventy sixty or £70 lighter than me so he's like a twig and.

17:10.83

christophknoll

Is.

17:15.54

Stoph

He did legs with us the other day and he put one. He put 2 posts up that night the first one was hitting hitting legs with the brother about to get I don't know like swoll or something like that and then a half hour later he posted I'm in over my head send help. So.

17:35.70

christophknoll

That's how b.

17:35.67

Stoph

It's it's the difference between because he's trained with me in the past before bodybuiling and everything so he knows like oh you can go and get fit in the gym but then he solved when I tap into like my rage or tap into my zone when I'm in the gym.

17:38.58

christophknoll

Yeah.

17:49.96

Stoph

Like we did walking Lungs I Waited little walking lunges and I have I mean my top Well not top set because I like to do it outside while I can do a barbell and load up a fucking ton of weight but we went super late so outdoors wasn't open so I had to use the small like the regular. Not the barbells. But it's the the smaller ones I don't know what they're Called. It's the like the easy bar and then well it's that but then they have a straight one as well. Um, with just the rubber things on the end. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

18:12.37

christophknoll

Like an easy crowbar. Okay, so it's like a 25 Oh they're like the preloaded like built in weights. Okay I know you're talking about now. Yeah yeah.

18:28.19

Stoph

And the max for that was one 10 so I had 1 10 for my walking lunges and well I do way more when I do my when I plate load it and yeah and so I'm doing them and I do extra because I'm trying to get the work out of it and I get to the point where I'm dying.

18:30.51

christophknoll

Oh that sucks. That's what I'm saying Yeah, that's not much weight.

18:46.52

Stoph

And he's looking at me. He's like bro just stop and I was like there is no quit. There is no tomorrow come on Rocky What are you doing? Well I do it for everything now but just spam that rocky quote come on rock.

18:51.28

christophknoll

That's yeah, that's how you got to train legs. Yeah.

18:57.80

christophknoll

Well I'm saying yeah the way you like legs is literally built like is this such a dumb thing to say but legs are built differently than the rest of our body like that's what are I mean.

19:05.80

Stoph

So well yeah because we're on it. We're on it. 90% of the day so you have to train past that point of like exhaustion. Basically so.

19:13.77

christophknoll

I Mean not even just that. But the way we're built is that we're supposed to be able to so fight or flight and when we have flight, we're running away from something we're supposed to be able to push past like muscle failure like that's the whole point of our legs like that's why any animal that. Like can run away from from their predators can run for a very long time until they literally collapse. Um, so that's where you got to train legs past like your pain barrier when you're growing I'm not doing that right now my leg day really isn't too terrible right now. But when I'm when I'm in a bulk.

19:36.67

Stoph

Yeah, okay.

19:53.80

christophknoll

Um I had been training past the pain barrier where it hurts so bad I want to stop and then you keep going like that's how your legs are built to be to grow where the rest of your body isn't like that you can't just like like you don't just like do dead lifts until your back hurts so bad and you just keep going like you you.

20:11.40

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

20:11.56

christophknoll

Mechanically fail way sooner than your legs will ever mechanically fail so it takes a lot excuse me a lot more to mechanically fail in your legs especially with the pain. There's a lot more lactic acid built up in your legs before they fail where something else doesn't have that um and that's just simply because of how we're built biologically. So That's how you got to train them. That's why it takes all another.

20:32.35

Stoph

I hit my brother with I hit my brother with the Tom Platts he ah he was doing his I forget what his top weight was but he went down and he was like that's it and I was like cool 5 more and then I started yelling he was like bro. What are you doing to me.

20:45.47

christophknoll

Yeah, ah, speaking of that there is this guy at the gym Today. So I was using the deadlift platform for straight like deadlifts um and he was in the hacksquat. That's next to the deadlift platform that has like a mirror right in front of it and he had 3 people around him. Ah, guy and 2 girls and they were responding him and they weren't saying shit like dead quiet and this dude's like dying going through this set like he's a big dude like it wasn't like he didn't know what he was doing like he totally knows how to push his body but I was like.

21:06.39

Stoph

I.

21:13.40

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

21:18.40

christophknoll

I Was like this close at going over there and like yelling at them to keep going because they're fucking dead silent I'm like you're like it's so awkward. Yeah, like like literally not saying anything I'm like I understand if it's like just you one other person and it's like a midset or something but like this dude is like literally like almost screaming through the set like.

21:22.78

Stoph

And you you need something? Yeah, you need something.

21:37.24

christophknoll

It was. It was a little like his his noises were exaggerated but like I'm like dude say something like get them hyped up a little bit but they were just dead quiet I'm like this fucking whack and another thing I saw that drove me nuts I keep forgetting to talk about. It is a couple days ago I saw this dude in the gym and. He caught my eye because he was wearing those 90 s pants those 90 s like ah parachute pans that guys are starting to wear now. Um I don't really know what to call them. But it's like something like Rexquando would wear from like Napoleon Dynamite you've ever seen that? Um, it's like that so he's wearing those.

22:01.48

Stoph

Yeah.

22:10.81

Stoph

Um.

22:14.51

christophknoll

He had one of those big gasp like thermal teas on um, that are like one hundred fucking twenty dollars you know like the gigantic baggy shirt and then he had like a $200 wolf pack bag like the big one like the forty liter one and I'm like.

22:26.39

Stoph

He.

22:32.92

christophknoll

Caught my eye because he just spent so much money on clothes and I'm like and he had like I think he had Airpods maxes too and I'm like what the fuck and this dude was failing on low row with one plate and I'm like that's most guys warm Ups I'm like is is he new to the gym like is this like.

22:44.71

Stoph

Um, jiz.

22:49.69

Stoph

It might be.

22:51.23

christophknoll

Like did he get all that thinking he needed it like I was like I just know marketing works because he he definitely hasn't been in the gym for that long and he has more expensive clothing and gear than I do.

23:02.51

Stoph

Well I was going to say the more time you spend in the gym the more you realize that you're just going to go with whatever is clean that morning. Yeah.

23:08.00

christophknoll

Exactly whatever is clean and fits like that's pretty much it and especially right now with me sweating like I just wear a shirt like I just wear a regular as shirt like I wore a Nasa shirt yesterday to the gym that just like is like a regular shirt from tdmx because I just know I'm going to end up sweating through it and then taking it off. You know? So it's like.

23:20.76

Stoph

Yeah.

23:27.00

christophknoll

You don't need like I spent so much money like probably like my first year in the gym on like stringers and like athletic shorts and shit like that and then I just haven't bought shit like that since like besides shoes like I bought some lifting shoes and it really do make a difference but it's just.

23:38.88

Stoph

So yep.

23:45.10

christophknoll

The marketing is just there I'm just like Wow that's impressive like they actually like fucking got money out of this kid like it's just wild to me.

23:49.97

Stoph

But I'll say like the professional brands. The ones that like you and I would actually use those aren't being marketed in new people like for example, like noble the the shoes I wear for lifting I only see like big dudes wearing those at least an empire. So I don't I don't know if that's the same for for your experience.

24:09.37

christophknoll

Um I um I see what I see more here is a lot of the bigger dudes wear the same shoes that are that I wear which is rider wear. Um. I see a lot of those actually it's surprising and then I see a lot of converses as well. I don't see much noble at all. Um, and then I do see a lot of the newer guys wearing gym shark though a lot of newer guys wear a lot of gyms shark and a lot of women wear Jim Shark as well. Um.

24:40.30

Stoph

Yeah.

24:47.36

christophknoll

But like the more experienced guys like some of the biggest dudes in the gym like 1 of the biggest dudes we like veins down his triceps on like a leg day at the gym like he's wearing like running shoes and like a t-shirt and shorts like he has like he's not there's nothing. He has to prove anyways. But like. It's just it just shows the difference in experience. You know what? I mean.

25:06.77

Stoph

But that's what I mean like the longer in the gym the more you just wear. Whatever.

25:10.23

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, you just you just stop you stop caring too too much about what you're wearing. There's stuff that I like to wear to the gym because of how makes me feel but I'm not going to buy specifically gym marketed shit but it was just interesting to see that.

25:22.15

Stoph

Except there's 1 thing that'll get both of us time in and time out and it's the steel. Yeah, this the steel Instagram things you and I will get them every time but we do.

25:27.27

christophknoll

The steel shirts. Oh yeah, oh yeah, whenever we see an ad we send them to each other. We both grab one.

25:39.85

Stoph

This is well I got 3 shirts off the last one so yup

25:44.34

christophknoll

And they send them and you just got to pay ten bucks for shipping so it ends up being worth it and the pre workout that comes with this not bad. Um the one I got.

25:52.37

Stoph

I'm still yet to find I'm still yet to find that blue one that you have I got light blue but I don't have the blue that you have.

25:56.68

christophknoll

Yeah, so the light blue one that we recently got that's baby fucking blue like that's light light blue.

26:00.80

Stoph

That is also I So I sweat clean through it and you could see my chest tattoo through through the shirt when you sweat through it. Yeah.

26:07.81

christophknoll

Damn, that's what so yeah, the turquoise one I have I don't know when I got that it was a random one I think and but the one that's surprisingly fits the best and has always fit the best is the black one with the white letters It just it just like perfectly hugs my delts.

26:21.29

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

26:27.13

christophknoll

And like perfectly fit like it's the perfect shirt. It's my favorite shirt to wear because it just fits so perfectly.

26:31.47

Stoph

My perfect one is green green with white lettering but I got large and it shrunk So it's perfect around my delts and chest. But then it's almost like a crop top because of how tall I am.

26:46.66

christophknoll

Yeah I have the same problem too like because I have to buy shirts that fit my frame but because of that it ends up pulling up the rest of the shirt. So I have to buy like like you see a lot of bodybuilders buying them now and I'm probably gonna end up having to hop on the bandwagon eventually is they buy those. Um.

26:54.27

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

27:04.52

christophknoll

Shirts with the long trunk. No, they're not oversized but like they're regular shirts but then they have the long trunk and they usually end in like a like a half circle on the front and back because and then it ends up fitting almost normally because it's like the their upper frame pulls it up so much you know so I might end up having to start wearing those too.

27:04.82

Stoph

Oversized. Oh yeah.

27:10.69

Stoph

So yep.

27:18.60

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

27:24.30

christophknoll

Um, because it just it's getting ridiculous trying to wear regular as shirts that just end up brighting up to my waist. It's fucking annoying. Um, but that's just that's just one of the problems that we have to face you know.

27:36.59

Stoph

Yeah, and to kind of touch on a point earlier for um, not being committed and whatnot I'm going on a camping trip I leave tomorrow morning and I'm gone all weekend. Um, and so I'm going to be in.

27:47.57

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

27:51.47

Stoph

Quite little in the mountains looking for things to lift to keep my workouts going and that is our segue into today's topic Ka Chow I'll be on the white mountains.

27:58.11

christophknoll

Um, so where where is it at that you're going. Yeah, that's what I figured we're gonna do that in October we're gonna get like an airbnb hopefully for a few days in October during like the fall and.

28:11.52

Stoph

I oh yeah I got a ah I got a big bougie tent. That's just for just for Brad and I and somewhere there's 8 of us going up and yeah, it's it's it's a boys' trip. Um.

28:12.20

christophknoll

Go up there in the white mountains.

28:16.68

christophknoll

Nice who's going up what the fuck.

28:27.71

Stoph

But guys you would know is between. There's me obviously Hamil Connor Ms Brad Dicky and Bp yep yep, so and he's the.

28:36.73

christophknoll

Misner's gonna be there interesting. Okay I mean that's most of them that's most of the people go in I know? Yeah, okay.

28:43.93

Stoph

Yeah, there's only one that you don't know Kyle that my workout buddy is going to be coming along as well.

28:53.46

christophknoll

That's whats up that'd be fun. Um, yeah I mean you pull Ups Pushups lifting rocks and shit. Yeah, big as Logs just try to curl them or something. Yeah, yeah, exactly somebody has somebody drop a log on you.

28:59.89

Stoph

I'm just going to find big rocks and do like a close press bench press with the logs.

29:12.43

christophknoll

And then bench press it and then you could even like lay on a rock That's like more rounded and do like upper chest press. Um.

29:21.10

Stoph

But yeah, so more or less the point being is that um my workout regiment requires me to work out every day besides Sundays excuse me and Friday Saturday I'll be up in the mountains. So when I travel or.

29:27.26

christophknoll

Yeah.

29:37.40

Stoph

In general when I travel or I'm not available to hit the gym I still got to hit some workouts you still got to keep the body you know intensely activated somehow so just kind of what we're going to be exploring today are alternatives for if you don't have access to a gym because. A lot of it too is not even like if you don't have access to it but some people just aren't you know, confident enough to go into a gym yet a speller, not confident enough to go into a gymba cove enough to go into a like a big gym like I know you saw my mentality before I joined empire like it took me months. Before I ever join empire from the first time I said it to you and so that like you know you have to build it up and so these external workouts that we're going to talk about today these kind of like extra things that you can be doing on the side or if you can't get to a gym just doing them period. That's kind of where it stems from. So.

30:16.60

christophknoll

A.

30:34.29

Stoph

Up in the mountains If if you're in the white mountains this weekend and you see some tall tall. Ah blonde haired dude lifting deadlifting a tree stump then that that's me.

30:46.86

christophknoll

It's like some like ah like lost tape shit to like what is that you like snap your head to the side and look straight at them. You're like O team you like run at them to kill them I heard there is over a thousand grams of protein in a human you're mine.

30:52.83

Stoph

It's the Bigfoot videos protein a vertiina.

31:03.58

Stoph

Ah, but the thing is that's too much cardio to run so I will incline walk towards um I can't I can't lean on the mountain. But.

31:04.14

christophknoll

But. He Yeah yeah, you just where's my handles I don't got my handles going up this mountain. What the hell where's the heart rate monitor I Want to keep in a targeted zone. But.

31:21.25

Stoph

Ah, this incline is too steep.

31:24.74

christophknoll

It's definitely more than ° that's what I'm used to um so what's what are you gonna do about your food.

31:26.84

Stoph

So I have so there's 8 of us going and we have obviously a group jet to like iron out details and whatnot and there's a total of well including a small one four coolers going. And 1 of them is a fifty quart fucking one that is just mine and it has all my meal prep that I already have so I'm just doing meal prep. Um, but there is I bought a little burner grill little stoat like little portable stove top. 1.

31:50.31

christophknoll

Wow.

32:04.58

Stoph

And I'll be cooking some other stuff deviating a little bit from plan but still crushing it caloric wise. But yeah for me I'm going meal prepped and it it can be frustrating going to things and just having a very set meal like.

32:21.19

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

32:23.42

Stoph

I Know for a fact that I could go and have hot dogs and burgers with the guys and enjoy myself. But at the end of the day. My body reacts a certain way and it's been reacting a certain way to help get the you know weight gain that I want and so I just have to stick to it and be disciplined which.

32:35.66

christophknoll

Yeah.

32:40.87

Stoph

You know, loops back to our earlier conversation about wanting it and for bodybuilding you have to want it and this for me is the disciplined side of things. So.

32:48.68

christophknoll

I Feel like I feel like given sorry I Just want to turn on a white screen to actually fucking see me. It's getting dark out now. Um, so I feel like with your given program right now I Almost probably wouldn't have even like really packed up food I Want to I. Probably would It is try to stay relatively clean, um, and like not like super super Junkye Um, and this basically called it Um, a lot of like that's how it is for a lot of guys is offseason like you talked to especially on the higher end like a lot of their offseason is like really junky. Um, granted I'm also talking like from a competitive standpoint. Um and they got you know anabolics on top of that and the training and whatnot. But um, it's a lot junkiier than you think it is ah for a lot of guys for me. It can't be I have to be pretty clean, just just because of how my metabolism works. But. Um, a lot of guys. Um, stay very junky with it and have pancakes and fucking like like protein pancakes and like processed meats and shit like that. Um and like like chick-fil-a sauce and all these different sauces that have high calories stuff like that. So I think. Was me I personally would have like gone healthy but like not word too too much about the plan. You know what? I mean because you also want to enjoy your time.

34:09.77

Stoph

Well, the way that I know but the way also that I see it I with the changes that I made going into this week I clips the five Thousand marks and at 5200 calories right now per day. Um, and so.

34:24.24

christophknoll

A.

34:27.69

Stoph

To do five thousand two hundred calories in hot dogs and burgers is a ton like it is not a little bit of food. It is a ton and so even still it's and I had already prepped out because I meal prep everything on Sundays so I just said whatever will ah.

34:37.31

christophknoll

Ah.

34:45.50

christophknoll

Um.

34:47.46

Stoph

Commit to it and I don't really want to deviate because I'm also seeing the changes that I want to see and I'd rather not stop that mid you know, mid push because I'm seeing considerable physical changes. Um weight changes I'm seeing so.

35:06.15

christophknoll

Um.

35:06.62

Stoph

It's going to suck to do it but just gotta grind grind with it. You know.

35:10.94

christophknoll

Yeah, no I hear you? um I understand where you're coming from like for here's here's another instance to reinforce what I'm talking about so like during the holidays I follow multiple guys on Instagram that I know are coaches and I'll see them post on their stories be like oh happy Thanksgiving everybody all my clients. Like they're kind of post their story like I know a few coaches that do this, they'll probably message most of them but also post to their story in the case that they missed a message but saw the story they say all my all my clients if you're in the offseason right now. Um enjoy your day eat. Whatever you want? Enjoy your day. We'll pick back up on plan tomorrow after the holiday and then like. You know Christmas would be like oh enjoy your Christmas Eve your Christmas day eat whatever you want drink whatever it is enjoy your time with your family like it really at the end of the day like when you're putting in years of effort a day here and there or a couple days here and there really isn't gonna make like make or break. Um, your process like for like cbomb. He goes a year not a year a month completely off everything basically eats whatever he wants in travels in vacations like that's that's what he does for like a month every year. Granted, he's also like a genetic outlier but still, it's like even like that to the degree that he does it.

36:15.22

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

36:26.12

christophknoll

Supposedly, it's it doesn't it's not detrimental to his overall arching program. So like that's why I say like a couple days like this um is probably like really wouldn't affect anything in the grain scheme of things and then even like when you go to start with your coach. I would honestly say like before you're like officially picking up with them. So like let's say like you're starting I don't know August fifteenth with him or something right? The last three days probably like prior to that. Let's say it's a Saturday or like a Sunday or something the 3 or 4 days prior to that like don't train. And just eat whatever you want like within reason don't just stuff your face full of pizza but like enjoy it because once you're on plan like that and you now represent somebody else on top of you. Um, there's a whole another layer of I mean you experienced that you know, but there's a whole nother layer of accountability. So. Um, I think that if you did a few days of just focusing on your your mental health on top of like knowing that you're starting that plan soon. I think that would help as well because especially.

37:33.38

Stoph

I Mean there was a period of time where I wasn't even posting pictures because you know I represented you know a coach and I mean I was at a I mean my physique is always like lean right now and like I could post pictures if I want to. But.

37:41.49

christophknoll

Exactly.

37:50.44

Stoph

I Just chose not to during that time because it wasn't just me anymore.

37:50.87

christophknoll

Yeah I think so the way I see it in that aspect will loop it back to the conversation overall but the way I see it in that aspect is that if I want it to represent my coach I'll tag him in it so that he can share it if he wants to share it. But if it's something that.

38:10.60

Stoph

A.

38:10.66

christophknoll

Want to post at least for me or I don't think he necessarily it deserves to be on his social media or something like that then I won't tag him and I'll just post it myself sometimes like like I'll post like a story or something that's like a kind of like a progress like this is me a couple years ago. This is me now. I won't tag him I'm just showing what my like I'll just be like oh this is like what the difference has been. You know, um, something like that because it does get stressful sometimes when you are representing somebody else. Um and and being on like and he also when you do have a coach. You don't. He doesn't know exactly what you ate where right now when you're doing your own shit. You know exactly what you ate and you can adjust accordingly where even if you told him oh I had all of this like I wrote everything down he still doesn't know the exact calorie content or like what your day-to-day life was like. During that. So like if you got a coach right now and you kind of like did whatever you wanted on this Trip. He doesn't know how active you guys were while you're Camping. He doesn't know how you were cooking it What sauces seasonings We're really adding up to the overarching total. So It's easier now to kind of come back from a potential slip up.

39:06.57

Stoph

Um, yeah.

39:24.67

christophknoll

Or something like that then it is when you have a coach because honesty is also very hard. It's very hard to be honest with your coach. Um, but really all your coach typically coaches care about is just honesty If you're honest with them. They'll be honest with you? Um, but yeah, that's just from my perspective and all those listening.

39:33.75

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

39:43.45

christophknoll

Take that with a grain of salt do with it what you will. That's just the way I look at it. So I think if you did say oh I'm not really focusing on anything these next couple days I totally understand and be like dude. Enjoy it like especially coming from prep like I can't I can't tell you enough how much. You realize just good tasting food your your like you mentally need like it's people will talk about like oh I eat for fuel and I don't care about the taste and it's like dude that shit's fucking just Goingnna burn you out like that shit will burn you out and it is deteriorating to your mindset like right now.

40:17.37

Stoph

Um, yeah.

40:22.80

christophknoll

I Don't enjoy pretty much any of my food like okay, the only thing I Enjoy right now is ah my cream of rice because it's coconut cream pie from um, Pride Foods. So It's ricing grinds tastes phenomenal Besides that I don't enjoy any of my food and it fucking hurts like it sucks. Um. Especially the fish I'm so tired of fish I have 3 meals one meal of salmon and 2 meals at Topia I'm fucking tired of fish already and I've only been on that for like a couple weeks I'm still eating it I'm still making it happen. But I'm like dousing my fucking tilaia and mustard just to get it down. Um, so.

40:53.92

Stoph

Yeah.

40:58.59

christophknoll

I Know that you have a lot more food in place and it's different for you because you're also bulking and putting on weight. You can have sauces and shit like that that tastes good. Um, but also eating stuff off plan will be good for you mentally as well. So keep that in mind too.

41:12.49

Stoph

Well, it's like my ah on Saturdays I take my one five guys trip after training every single every single week and like that you're right? It's not just for I mean it. It's Saturdays I intake more calories than any other day because that one trip to 5 guys is like.

41:18.83

christophknoll

Yep.

41:29.80

Stoph

Almost half of my coort intake in one meal because it's you know, loaded. But but what it does is you're right? It has that mental effect because enjoying you know a burger from there and especially the shake from there like.

41:31.13

christophknoll

Yeah, it's so bad.

41:42.48

christophknoll

A.

41:44.67

Stoph

That right there I look forward to that so I almost train harder on Saturdays because I know I get it afterwards. So.

41:48.92

christophknoll

Yeah, exactly. That's like when I when I especially after this show we're definitely gonna be in such a good place with the rebound like that's 1 thing. My coach is very good at is is rebounds with this client so we're gonna have a really good rebound I know it. So if I end up coming up there. After my show my rebounds gonna be very important so we focused on that. But after that rebound we should be in a place to be able to have a refeed once a week kind of like what you're doing once every Saturday or whatever it is Friday Saturday Sunday whatever it is getting a ref feeded whether that's a burger fry sushi. Whatever it is and like that. Just that one meal will keep me going every week and being like just gotta to make it to Saturday just got to make it Saturday just gotta make it Saturday um, but like right now there is none of that granted tomorrow he said let's stick to the plan after my stomach book that I had last weekend and he said let's stick to the plan Friday we'll have a reffeed.

42:29.92

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

42:44.20

christophknoll

As long as you stick to the plan for the next three days which I mean I did besides power raid like power rate 0 But besides that um I stuck to the plan so we'll get a reie tomorrow. Whatever it is. It's probably just gonna be more carved with each meal. Um.

42:58.94

Stoph

You get a single slice of bread with it. So.

43:00.36

christophknoll

But like that keeps you going like that's keeping me going. No like that's dude like I can't fucking like that's exactly what it is like like he'll be like here's your re feed I have one more slice of bread with breakfast I have some sweet potato with my chicken I'll have more cream of rice more rice post workout and then like another slice of bread for my last meal. Like that's what would it would be like legitimately my last refeed before my last show it was like two more ounces of rice instead of 2 um rice cakes. We did cream of rice instead and I think got another slice of bread.

43:36.92

Stoph

He.

43:38.46

christophknoll

That was it like but like that made me feel amazing because I was so dialed in and you're so dialed in on prep that the added carbs really does like really take you to the next level and how you're feeling and how you're performing so like it does play a role but like dude I'm praying to god he's like. Go get a burger and fries tomorrow I'm fucking praying like I'm like please god if there's anything you will give me after what I've been through the past week just give me burger fries. That's all I want.

44:07.61

Stoph

You know the ah the they were around when we were a kid but they were the candy Crabby patty is the tiny ones he gonna he's kind of say you can have a burger but it has to match this requirement.

44:11.35

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be this size. It's gonna be this size burger. It's one byte.

44:22.84

Stoph

It's like that video of the dude who goes to the restaurant and gets the perfect steak and it's a hundred dollar steak they serve it on the big smoke thing he takes off the smoke thing as this tiny fucking thing.

44:28.16

christophknoll

Yeah, it's like one ounce of steak. It's like 1 actual bite. Yeah, no, that'd be I mean when when he says burger and fries. Um, he means 5 guys basically like that's what all bodybuilders end up doing is 5 guys.

44:44.19

Stoph

Yep, yes.

44:46.54

christophknoll

Um, especially for their fries like the fries is is really what makes us go there. The burger is good. They'll get me wrong, but the fries is really like what fucking 5 guys that's good dude I don't give a shit I'm crispy soggy if it's.

44:53.77

Stoph

Except when you get screwed over except when you get screwed over and it's saw E fries. That's that's no good.

45:04.18

christophknoll

Fucking carbs I don't care as long as it's carbs. It's all I care about that's where I'm at fucking hate it every time I'm like gagging on salmon from a can and you're like look at my 5 guys I'll buy dude I'm literally eating the bones out of the salmon like.

45:08.81

Stoph

That's why I continue to text. That's why I continue to text through about my 5 guys refeads and i.

45:23.31

christophknoll

It's crunchy. My salmon is crunchy and you're setting me 5 guys you dick it's fucking torture. Yeah, you're like do put extra fries in the bag. What do I do with them. He's like throw them out you fucking piece of shit.

45:23.84

Stoph

Who who got extra pickles this time. No I'll never do that. What's served to me is what's eaten.

45:41.99

christophknoll

But if you did Yeah yeah, no I I I love fried guys for that that they just overload the fries. But um, oh dude I Love roasted Peanuts ah like regular as peanuts.

45:47.94

Stoph

E Paul I got the peanuts and I ate the whole thing mic shell too Ha ha.

45:59.64

christophknoll

You know what something that they do down here is boiled Peanuts you ever had boiled peanuts. Oh it's fucking awful. It's just just Peanuts thrown in water that's boiling. Basically it it's It's just it's easier to peel the shell and then like the I don't know if it's like.

46:01.60

Stoph

No no.

46:08.47

Stoph

That's so weird.

46:15.54

christophknoll

Don't if it's water oil or whatever they put it in but it's just like it's got this other flavor to it and I just am not a fan of it. They just ruin the peanuts to me. But um, yeah, so to add to what we were talking about earlier. Um, when I went to Florida the way that I did it was um this is something that I came up with personally so. I knew we were staying in an airbnb when we went down to Florida so my in-laws were driving down so what I so I did I packed up. Um my lunchbox I have like this big like like kind of like almost like a gym bag sized lunchbox put like my favorite seasonings in there. Um. And then all my food and the way that I do it personally is um I pack up my meals so like I measure them out and then I put them in ziploc bags and that saves tons of space. Um. When you're packing them up to to go somewhere like when you're going to camping that would save tons of space in your cooler and on top of that. There's also like more surface area for ice to touch versus like in a container that's flat um because then really, especially if you have like meat or something like that. It's probably not touching the lid.

47:10.46

Stoph

Yep.

47:25.66

christophknoll

It's just touching the bottom of the actual tupperware. So only the bottom ice is really affecting it where the ice in a ziploc bag like all the way around it. It'll get touched by ice so that it helps keep it cooler for longer as well and saves tons of space and then if I'm going to somewhere where like I won't have like utensils or. Like place and stuff like Florida there's already plates there. There's utensils. Whatever in the airbnb I will bring like a fork a spoon a knife and like like a topware container just like one and put that in there and then use that as like my player a bowl that I dump my ziploc bag of food into. And that's how I do it that way that way I save tons of space I have something to eat out of and then I just wash it with water afterwards and just get the food out the scraps or whatever the the leftover stuff and it's clean for the next meal. So that's one of my like logistically that's one of my suggestions for for traveling or going somewhere with food and that's just something I've gotten dialed in from having brought food everywhere. Tons and tons of times so something to consider.

48:25.77

Stoph

But with plastic bags though like let's say you're going to town with a fork you ever poked through the bag by accident.

48:34.78

christophknoll

Um, no, because usually I put the fork in a different ah pocket just in case. No I because I dump it into ah um, a toughware container. Yeah yeah, so dump it in thetemporary container to have.

48:37.31

Stoph

No I mean like when you're eating Oh okay, okay, just sitting there with sitting there with a bag.

48:51.48

christophknoll

I mean I've done that like I'll have like if I have like a ziploc bag of just sweet potato and I have a spoon I'll just eat it right on the ziploc bag because it's not going to rip I have a spoon um and then I could like kind of scrape it from the edge of the ziploc bag by holding it a certain way but like normally with like meat or rice or whatever it is where I would use a fork. Then I'd put it in the tupware container and um, eat it that way. So That's how I do it. It's just the way I've done it in the past and then when I want to add seizinging to stuff I'll add it to the Zippploc bag first like mix it up like roll it between my hands and then like shake it up and all that and then put it in the Tuft work container. That's that way. It's all set.

49:27.77

Stoph

He.

49:27.86

christophknoll

Like I've got the shit fucking dialed in and then when you need to when you throw out the ziploc bag. You just like push all the air out zip it up and just throw it in your lunchbox and later on you throw them all out I've gotten the shit dialed in.

49:35.19

Stoph

So yep, yep, and now now we we now we touch the the subject of if we can't bring our coolers. We can't bring our zip block Bags. We can't bring our containers. How do you stick to Diet. Best You can. While you're traveling. Yeah.

49:54.35

christophknoll

Um, that's that's it depends on.

49:55.68

Stoph

It obviously I was gonna yeah I was gonna say it's obviously dependent on where you go and how you go because obviously if you fly modern Airports actually have fairly decent options nowadays. So flying at the very least you can.

50:01.13

christophknoll

Yeah.

50:13.47

Stoph

Kind of figure it out but obviously driving you have to figure out stops but me personally like looking for anything that I found really good success with Mexican places. Ah Brazilian places basically anything that.

50:26.30

christophknoll

It is.

50:32.10

Stoph

Uses a rice base I've found really good success when I travel with obviously those are tough to find because you know it's not like those are commercial chains. It's not like a cumble in farms or something like that so you got to kind of pick and choose but finding the.

50:42.73

christophknoll

Yeah.

50:49.87

Stoph

It's tough. You have to look at the menu and figure out exactly like let's say you have no other option and you have to go into like I don't know like a burger King or something not that I would ever do that. But you have to go and you you just got to look at the menu kind of decide. What will stick best to what your goal is.

51:05.24

christophknoll

Yeah, see here's my thing. It's really actually not too too hard to stick to a plan when you go to a fast food place and here's why most fast poof food places will have some sort of chicken breast option Mcdonald's burger King Wendy's

51:07.32

Stoph

Which is tough at a fast food place.

51:22.76

christophknoll

Fucking chick-fil-a all of them have chicken breast chicken breast and they almost always grill it as well. They they don't fry chicken breast they grill it so that's a really good option everywhere. You're going mcdonald's chicken breast is actually really good chicken breast. It's surprisingly good burger King like all those are the same instance. So. You could just get just straight chicken breast. You could just like get like a chicken sandwich and just take everything off it. But the chicken breast and just be like or like if you're at the counter to be like honestly I just want straight chicken breast can I have like 2 things that chicken breast and they'll charge you usually less too like a few bucks per like actual thing of chicken breast. Um, and then also the salads are an option too. But be careful with that because of the dressings the actual contents of the salad isn't really that big of a deal. Um, it's more the dressings. So for instance, you go to like ah like chick-fil-a chick-fil-a's salads. Um, they have like you know all different kinds of salads. But.

52:07.50

Stoph

Yep.

52:17.43

christophknoll

For instance, if you get 1 like that comes with their um, creamy salsa you're like oh okay, that's probably not that bad me little like a little mayonnaise or whatever it is. That's like makes it creamy, whatever, it's three hundred three hundred calories for 1 packet of that salsa like it's the salt the actual like dressing is what ruins the salad. Um, but if you don't put that on there then you're good.

52:36.90

Stoph

I was gonna say I I chaperoned a trip through the school that I teach at to 6 flags and they give you like vouchers for all the kids and they all went and they ate whatever and I went to you know they have their they have a burger pizza line and then the.

52:46.26

christophknoll

Yeah.

52:53.24

christophknoll

Are we talking about the big like cafeteria one towards the front. Yeah yeah, and just check them up.

52:53.49

Stoph

Healthy line which always has like no line cause nobody's yeah and yeah, yeah, and so I go up there and I go and I get the ah the chicken Caesar salad wrap and.

53:05.89

christophknoll

Yeah.

53:07.94

Stoph

It had 2 You know how they always give you a range of calories. The first one was nine hundred calories and I was like okay, it's the chicken. The croutons you know, probably the cheese that's used with the salad and the probably the the breading for the wrap and everything.

53:10.41

christophknoll

Yeah.

53:23.26

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, and probably what's fucked up is that you're not even talking about like honestly what I would have thought was that that's not the dressing or without it. That's just 2 different sizes of salads.

53:25.55

Stoph

And then the upper range was nineteen hundred calories

53:40.39

Stoph

No, that no because they serve just 1 thing there's they don't serve 2 separate ones there.

53:41.34

christophknoll

Like the 900 I would have seen as a side salad with the dressing. I wonder why it's nine hundred calories without the dressing.

53:51.30

Stoph

So it's ah well, it's not just without the dressing I'm guessing that's like if you said give me the lettuce because you they go through the whole platform they ask you what toppings you want, but regardless the point being like they have solid quote unquote which.

54:01.99

christophknoll

Okay.

54:08.46

Stoph

Even nine hundred calories of a fucking ton for salad. But then they have their super size be have for nineteen hundred calories

54:09.36

christophknoll

Yeah, that is ridiculous. Yeah I mean which at that point you just should even really have it. You might as well. Just go get whatever, whatever else you want I'm like that's so bad for you already you know, but.

54:23.20

Stoph

Um, yeah.

54:23.92

christophknoll

Yeah I mean those are just those are options like the southwest salad from from Mcdonald's is arguably worse than like all of their other foods because you're just so dense with the with the seasoning or the dressing I mean um so you got to be careful of that. But if you don't have the dressing it ends up being fine. Um, what I will attest to is that when it comes to bodybuilders. Go to is like a Chipotle Cudoba mos stuff like that are almost always the go to because you have you got your rice. You got your chicken, you get your steak. You got your veggies. Um, even can have like a whole salad too. Grill.

54:48.86

Stoph

Yep.

54:56.53

Stoph

And it's always It's also all their meats are cooked on a gri on a stove top grill top and you don't have to ever worry about like you know, Obviously they ah it's tough to clean it throughout the day I mean I've worked on a grill before so I understand what it's like. But.

55:03.50

christophknoll

Yep.

55:09.22

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

55:14.54

Stoph

It's still a lot cleaner of an option than if you were to go to like and get like a steak like or like steak tips or steak topping within assad from like mcda's or something like that that.

55:18.21

christophknoll

Yeah.

55:23.63

christophknoll

Yeah, and the other problem too is you got to look out for oils like oils will really add a lot to calories so like that's why you got to eat to shit in moderation and only do it if you absolutely have to but like Chipotle Qdoova Mos are all good options. Um, and the seasoning usually isn't too too bad as far as calories. Go. Um, but again like I said it just depends on the oil that the the actual cook uses to cook it up. Um trying think of like Panera is another good option too. Paneras are fucking everywhere. Um, there are healthy options at subplaces. But you also have to be very careful because they use so much oil. Whenever they make the subs so like you could so like if you're like okay I really want like a sandwich or something I think that'd be good I just want some delu meat. Whatever it is what you do is you go to like whatever subplace it is tell them you don't want any oil. They won't they won't spread it on there. And you could also after you get your sandwich ideally put healthy stuff on there. You could also like kind of tear out the bulk of the bread. Um and they just kind of eat like the crust in like a little bit of the bread that kind of holds it all together that way you're not eating so many carbs at once because the bread is very dense carbs.

56:30.88

Stoph

Um, yeah.

56:36.87

christophknoll

There's also like whole wheat options. You can even get a lot of these have like veggie ah like ah veggie tortillas options now too and flatbreads and like that that are a bit healthier than you for you than like the fucking like 8 cheese and herbs or whatever from like subway you know what I mean so it's like there's that option as well.

56:48.73

Stoph

Are.

56:54.62

christophknoll

Um I know sea bums like cheat meal every week is four 6 and subs from subway and like if you look up the calories it's like three thousand calories in that one meal like there's so many calories in subs. It's fucking ludicrous. But yeah, those are options too.

57:09.60

Stoph

Um, yeah, yeah, and really just at the end of the day is making smart decisions because it's very very easy to fall into the you know, not smart decision or I mean.

57:19.74

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

57:22.31

Stoph

Paul you have your wife I off in trouble with my family like it's very easy to go where they go like for example, expediency like if I'm doing a road trip with my family and we're going up to you know our place in Michigan or something like that. There's arby's all along the way and Arby's is super easy for um.

57:26.15

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

57:39.61

christophknoll

But.

57:40.89

Stoph

Everybody to stop in because it's quick and yeah, there's a lot of meats and whatnot but the amount of grease and oil used to cook with those things and it's also a Chef Chef Microwave is is really running things there. It's not really so you really have to be careful like.

57:49.51

christophknoll

Um, Delhi meat too. Yeah.

57:59.79

Stoph

Sure there are like you know options for if you were a hidden Arby's I'm not saying that Arby's is the worst but I'm saying like it's very tough to be smart about it when you travel excuse me with others when you do it when you're traveling by yourself.

58:14.48

christophknoll

Yeah, right? okay.

58:15.90

Stoph

<unk>s only 1 person there to be accountable for there's no one else you have to listen to no one else you have to answer to no one else, you're providing for but you travel with family or you know your girlfriend fiance wife whatever and you have to make a decision for her as well. That adds a whole another layer to it because it's also very very awkward when you're traveling to be like hey babe go have something nice at this place I'm going to go to this other spot because this is the only thing I can eat.

58:44.53

christophknoll

I mean when I when we were going out to places in Florida I'd legit like I sent my coach it I legit got lettuce and got a side of pico de gallo and put that on my lettuce and that's what I ate I just peco to guy and lettuce. That's all 8 Um, there are Aps options and like.

58:57.70

Stoph

Yep.

59:00.31

christophknoll

A lot of places will have Salmon Salmon's a good option. Um, steak is also a good option and the other thing too at steak is if you're especially trying to stay low calorie the cheaper the steak at the restaurant the probably less fat there is in it and the it's gonna be tougher to eat is gonna be more chewy but it's gonna have a lot less fat and be more lean. So. Go cheaper with the steak when you go out. Um then salmon is usually a good option fresh fish like ah fresh water fish I mean is is a good option as well. Most restaurants will have some sort of garden salad or something like that and just get that with no dressing on it. Um. Especially if you put like um, you can even do like ah if I had like cruutons you could like crumble them up with your hands if you at a restaurant and use the croutons as like the seasoning you know what? I mean like the cruutons are like maybe a hundred calories or something like that for the added croutons. They're pretty croutons are pretty dense in calories. But if there is.

59:48.98

Stoph

Yep.


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