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HGH #42 - Traveling on a Meal Plan Part 2


59:56.41

christophknoll

That on there you can crush it up and use it as seasoning or like ah excuse me, you can do like a barbecue like a light barbecue sauce like some like down here. There's a lot of barbecue and places will either have like their sweet barbecue. Or like their vinegar-based Barbecues. You can do like the vinegar based one that's lower calorie and put that on like a salad for instance. So like that's an option too. Um or like steamed vegetables. That's another option is steamed vegetables everywhere we went I looked to see if they had steamed vegetables to see if that was an option. Um, and then when you order to if you're at a restaurant where you order at a table ask them to not put oils on it just be like I hate to be picky like like show some sympathy because they're they're being particular with your meal. Yeah exactly um I always give the minimum 20% for them dealing with me.

01:00:39.68

Stoph

Um, yeah, and and always tip. Well.

01:00:50.23

christophknoll

Um, minimum. Ah so when you'd be like okay, can you just is it cool if we just don't put any oil on it or go really light with the oil when you're out just be like I'm just really trying to stay low calorie right now and I hate to be picky. But if we can do that. They'd be amazing and usually they won't have a problem with it. They'd be like yeah, that's fine. You know. There's a place I went when I was down in Florida they had chicken breast wraps and I just got chicken breasts and um lettuce and I was like can we cook it without oils and he's like oh we use a zero calorie oil he's like I was like is it like a spray like canola oil or something. He's like no, it's just it's like ah it's like a 0 calorie like drizzle oil. Doesn't have anything in it. That's why we use it because it doesn't add tons of calories for like no reason I'm like cool that works I mean if it's 0 calorie I'm cool. So um, you know stuff like that is an option too. That's something to consider is is ordering it that way.

01:01:33.70

Stoph

Yeah.

01:01:43.23

Stoph

Yeah, but ultimately it you just have to be you know, mindful and that's really the biggest thing here like stay mindful is tough. It really is and you're pounding the hell out of that thing I know what that is, but.

01:02:02.70

christophknoll

I I fucking hate it. Dude it's um, it's a fiber supplement supplement it from um species nutrition. Um, fiber lies from species. Um, and.

01:02:07.11

Stoph

Pen.

01:02:16.28

Stoph

Yep.

01:02:19.43

christophknoll

Flavors Fruit punch but like look at let's see if you can see the color and see if you can can you see the? yeah yeah when you see that color when I opened it I was like oh fuck you just know it's not going to taste good. Um, and it's fucking it. The fruit punch flavor I Like then they kind of nailed the flavor.

01:02:21.60

Stoph

Is it green. Oh yeah, it's like 10

01:02:38.34

christophknoll

But the problem is that the consistency. Um I have to like shake it I I like usually wait like 30 seconds to a minute and then I drink it because if I wait too long. It's literally like drinking like Apple sauce. We get so thick. Um, so like just now is on the thicker side. So like I want to fucking throw up. But.

01:02:49.52

Stoph

Yeah.

01:02:57.63

christophknoll

Um, normally I like so mix it. Oh God it's fucking Normally I mix it and then right when I mix it I'll drink it because it's still getting in my system. But yeah, it's fucking nasty So I just have to pound it to be done with it.

01:02:59.60

Stoph

Color.

01:03:11.73

Stoph

But that actually brings up a ah that that brings up a good point though for the next part is that supplements and that's not something you can really dance around when it comes to bodybuilding. You have your supplements. You've got to take your supplements and there's no.

01:03:18.93

christophknoll

Oh yeah.

01:03:27.81

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:03:28.25

Stoph

Real alternatives to it like yeah I mean when we came down to South Carolina I was taken more than I am now but you saw the supplement cabinet that I brought like I brought arsenal of stuff and you just can't substitute that stuff. Maybe you really can't unless your diet is so locked in that you don't even need like additional supplements. But.

01:03:36.73

christophknoll

Um, letter.

01:03:47.66

christophknoll

Yeah, it's the micronutrient stuff like the vitamins stuff like that. My problem is like really, it's not that like I Really don't need to take that many vitamins and stuff and a lot of it comes down to money a lot of my issue comes on money but like probiotics um digestive enzymes are also good.

01:03:47.87

Stoph

That's a long shot.

01:04:07.47

christophknoll

Um, but like my problem is just trying to just taking them remembering to take them is also a problem for me like I just I forget? Um, but also the other thing too to consider too is that when you introduce something like anabolics to you're talking. We're talking a whole another like you miss a day you're fucking your system up. So like that's a whole another layer of like.

01:04:22.89

Stoph

Um, yeah.

01:04:26.17

christophknoll

Issues You're adding to like your entire day you have to make sure you take it So I have like reminder set up to take stuff but I orders more months of vitamins recently because of ah the prime sale. But um, yeah, no so supplements are something that you got to take and that is also. Ah, good option or alternative to meals as Well. You know that very well mirror replacements protein shakes stuff like that are good options to bring with you if you're traveling something that like really at the end of the day. The best things to.

01:04:54.28

Stoph

Um, a.

01:04:57.82

Stoph

Okay.

01:05:02.76

christophknoll

Grab for food when you're traveling is anything that's nonperishable anything that that doesn't need to go into a fridge are a good option So like protein powder and all you need is just water in a cup to mix it. Um and then ah protein bars Premade protein shakes stuff like that are all good options. Um, rice cakes. You talk to any bodybuilder they any you go to a show like when I went to my show. Every bodybuilder had rice cakes because there's no fridges nothing like that and it's the perfect fast adjusting Carb. So like stuff like that are also good options to bring with you. Um.

01:05:34.23

Stoph

And plus the rice rice cakes you could get in actually pretty decent flavors that don't have that much of added sugars like I always get the white cheddar one.

01:05:40.14

christophknoll

Yeah, the white chedd One's good. Um chocolate is probably my favorite The caramel one's also not bad. The only problem I have with the caramel one is. It's super sticky so it makes my finger sticky and then like it just like so like it's like sits like a rock I feel like sometimes because of how sticky it is is that.

01:05:56.92

Stoph

Yeah, dicky just came by.

01:05:59.68

christophknoll

Is that bride over there. Okay, um, but yeah, so that's that's another option too is ah the non perishable supplementation that you can take to those are all all good stuff right? there? um.

01:06:13.14

Stoph

Yep.

01:06:16.17

christophknoll

And you got you got you like you. There's even me replacement option. So there's something that a lot of people don't talk about is is what's called whewell h u e l um, the original. The original idea I don't know where they're at now as a business like as far as like they're like actual focus as how they're marketing themselves. Original idea when I first took it was literally like right when they started selling in the us because they're a Uk -based company. So the idea behind whewell originally was like it's the the true actual meal replacement like they designed it to specifically be. Ah, powder you can live off of for the rest of your life like they wanted to design it so that like governments can start getting it and like setting it to like third world countries who have like start like starvation and hunger issues because that's all they need like all your nutrients are in there your micronutrients even there's tons of vitamins and the consistency was.

01:07:01.79

Stoph

Yeah.

01:07:12.15

christophknoll

Fucking awful. It was like drinking shredded wheat. But um, they have options. Um for like going like on the go like they have ready to drink shit too on the go essential ready to drink. They got hot and savory instant meals like you can even buy like meals that you put into a bowl and microwave. And like that's your meal's done so it's like like they have like caian pasta chicken and mushroom pasta mexican chili tomato and herb um and sweet Basos like vegetables with some tomatoes like there's so much shit that you can get from them now. Um.

01:07:47.00

Stoph

Oh was good I was gonna say those things like a all in 1 supplement to drink and you look at the packaging as like this will taste like shit.

01:07:48.52

christophknoll

And and you get a bag and it's 7 meals.

01:08:00.97

christophknoll

Big like literally like do I almost have to like warn you like dude this is gonna suck. Um, yeah, if you look at me see if I can find their nutrition label.

01:08:06.19

Stoph

And and then of course you get their Ceo and he goes wow this tastes good.

01:08:13.45

christophknoll

This is amazing. Um.

01:08:18.12

Stoph

I saw um was it see I watched 1 to see bomb's videos where he was in prep and he was he combined his his oats with ah like 1 of his powders and he mixed it up and he took a bite and like.

01:08:28.18

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:08:32.40

Stoph

You could just see him pause for like 3 seconds and then he goes well, that's actually pretty good and I'm like you're lying. You set up a that's true. He he was talking. He was like I'm gonna.

01:08:35.85

christophknoll

Ah.

01:08:38.92

christophknoll

When you're in prepto fucking. Everything is good like like not.

01:08:47.89

Stoph

Eat the shit out of this no sugar catchchup.

01:08:51.16

christophknoll

Dude for real though like adding adding Gehu's ketchup to fucking everything just changes the flavor like drastically I look forward to my like plain chicken every day because I Love chicken now because I never have it but like the only thing like I I don't even like mustard. But. Dousing my food and mustard just like makes it so much better and then like even salt when you add salt to a meal at that level like when you're just dialed the fuck in and so even when you're so like when you're tracking your salt when you have your meals that have salt in them. They taste so much better. Um, the electrolytes just taste so good to get in your system. So like that plays a big role too. Black coffee Fucking phenomenal. Um, so I mean that's there's.

01:09:33.90

Stoph

I'm looking forward to that I I did a coffee bin nut Bch I Cold turkey coffee from everything just because my caffeine dependence was terrible and like nothing was affecting me and um.

01:09:44.51

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:09:47.37

Stoph

This upcoming camping trick I have a French press ready I'm gonna do coffee every morning I'm looking forward to it like that's that's one of the small victories I'm taking this this weekend.

01:09:49.76

christophknoll

Nice.

01:09:58.10

christophknoll

Yeah, that's what so that Ah, that'd be enjoyable. Yeah, like a um, what's what's it called? Um, one of those like ones where you put the water in the bottom and then you like put on a burner and the coffee's in the top or whatever it is.

01:10:09.35

Stoph

Well so well so um, well so I'm just going to boil water I have a mess kit for when I go camping and I I boil water in the little cattle and then I pour that into the French press. So the French press you put the grounds in the bottom you pour water in and then you press down and then the the actual.

01:10:13.43

christophknoll

Okay.

01:10:19.60

christophknoll

Oh you? Okay French press. Yeah.

01:10:26.63

Stoph

Coffee that you can drink rises to the top.

01:10:29.20

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, French presses are cool. Um, you could also do like a pour over to not that that would be I think the French press is easier with what you're doing. But if you don't have a French press. You could also do like a pour over. Um if you had some sort of like copper something that could take the heat from the boiling water.

01:10:39.53

Stoph

Yeah.

01:10:45.85

christophknoll

And you could just put a coffee filter over it and some coffee in that do it that way. but but yeah black coffee or like flavor I buy flavored coffee usually from like Tg max and shit they actually have really good coffee selection. A lot of the time for flavored coffees that is and it fucking tastes amazing I love my coffee every day and then when I get.

01:10:47.90

Stoph

Yeah.

01:11:04.34

christophknoll

I have one more week of artificial flavors and sweeteners. But when you get to have artificial flavors and sweeteners. Ah ah like gum fucking low caffeine energy drinks like ah phenomenal power raid aw dude this whole week I've been having a power raid or gatorade mainly power raid.

01:11:10.69

Stoph

You.

01:11:16.55

Stoph

And yep.

01:11:23.75

christophknoll

After lifting because of my stomach bug that I had and holy shit each one tastes like actual heaven. But what's funny is I got a this is Saturday I got approved to have a gatorade zero because my lecture lights are low and it ended up being something that I like look forward to every day. So I was like yeah I'll just buy more of them and only have like 1 and really just comes on to sodium. So like once we actually start tracking my sodium. It's not that big of a deal I'll just cut them out. But um, we got it because of my electrolighten balance and like I tried it and I'm like fuck this is way too good I'm like this this just doesn't deserve to be this good so I looked at the label I like.

01:11:58.13

Stoph

Um, ah.

01:12:01.80

christophknoll

I bought a fucking regular gatorade I was like no wonder why it's so good. It's got tons of sugar in it I'm like son of a bitch. So then I had to get a regular gatorade zero. It was on the same shelf I don't know how I messed that up and.

01:12:04.20

Stoph

A.

01:12:13.60

Stoph

I mean that's like your story from a couple months ago about the your dyed coke and your but and your wife's regular coke.

01:12:20.59

christophknoll

Yeah, exactly like when I had a regular Coke I was like fuck this is way too good. What's what's wrong with this.

01:12:26.12

Stoph

Sitting sitting there as if you just took like the craziest psychedelic and you're like wait. This isn't right.

01:12:32.26

christophknoll

Yeah, though, that's literally how like I felt so good like the the dopamine that hit me is like oh fuck and then I was like wait this doesn't feel right after a few steps I'm like this ain't right? and then I look as a regular ascoke I'm like fuck but at the time we weren't in prep so it wasn't really that big of a deal.

01:12:47.19

Stoph

Um, yeah.

01:12:50.15

christophknoll

Um, same with the gatorade I told my coach I was like this is kind of funny. It was one sip like literally took like 1 sip and I was like this ain't right and it so it's not the biggest deal might have been like a grammar 2 or sugar or something but um, yeah was just it was funny that that that I experienced that um which is also another good option for when you're traveling to like gatorades anything with dexterus in it. Um, that'll keep you going keep you feel relatively full are good options as well. Um, so you can have those and get them from like a like nice and cold from a gas station or something like that that'll be pretty good that would keep me going for sure I look forward to my fucking power rate every day that's sit in my fridge.

01:13:27.14

Stoph

But I do I do enjoy it because I mean I texted you about it I have a gatorade during my for my intra and I actually look forward to that except on my leg day because on my leg day literally anything I drink or eat like it.

01:13:30.82

christophknoll

Yeah. Yeah.

01:13:44.67

Stoph

It wants to come up because of how far I push my body on leg day. So leg day I don't like it but on like my days like 1 and 1 2 4 and 5 I actually love getting it in the middle of it and and I like push for it like sometimes I forget until the cardio at the very end and the night

01:13:46.12

christophknoll

Yep yep.

01:13:53.72

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:14:02.81

Stoph

And then I just do it just for the calor intake but um, getting it in the middle of the workout is like that many little like reward and then you keep going.

01:14:07.00

christophknoll

Um.

01:14:09.59

christophknoll

yeah yeah I mean for leg day I'm the same way I just have plain water but typically I have Bcas when I train. Um which I know kind of goes against what I've said in the past they kind of they kind of work. Um, especially right now I need more protein synthesis because of pushing my body through prep. But.

01:14:16.90

Stoph

Yeah.

01:14:28.86

christophknoll

Um, yeah it it kind of it helps me right now. But um, like leg of day today I ate and got to the gym probably just under an hour and a half after I ate which is usually what I aimed for about an hour to start lifting and I was almost throwing up doing straight like deadlifts I got home I got home I'm talking my wife and I fucking feel it come up for a second and I catch it I like catch it my throw I'm like nope I get to sit there for a second and like let it go back down like it's the weirdest thing I hate it. But yeah know I'm in the same boat like the littlest thing will throw off my entire stomach I can even have pre-work out because I get such a pump in my quads.

01:14:52.30

Stoph

He.

01:15:06.30

christophknoll

I'll throw up so I can even I just have like but like ah just a little bit of caffeine. That's all of that goes into my leg day.

01:15:06.39

Stoph

Yeah.

01:15:13.63

Stoph

That's what's turned into for me too like I normally have a stemim and a non stem pre-workout and I normally take the stim for my leg day but this was before I started doing this super intense stuff that I do now and I tried it the other day and I just.

01:15:19.21

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:15:31.54

Stoph

Came up right away and I was like I it's just water from here on out I just have to make sure I sleep well enough the night before and I'm not tired because like a lot of the reason why it takes such like my stem preworkouts are like super stem pre-workouts because during the school year especially I don't sleep a ton because.

01:15:31.67

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:15:42.76

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:15:48.48

Stoph

Just with how much I need to get done in the day and so I need that but I've told myself I'm like come leg time like either take a nap Beforehand or I need to sleep Well the night before because I just can't drink something like it. It doesn't react well with my body.

01:15:58.93

christophknoll

Yeah, no I I'm glad I'm not alone there because it just it's I Just get it all the blood just rushes to my legs and it just sucks all the digest the the digestion capabilities just out of my system.

01:16:11.10

Stoph

Yep.

01:16:15.71

christophknoll

I could have like a bang or like ah like a red con one read ready to drink like can like anything that's like carbonated I could have but Beside. Ah even C four like anything that's carbonated I can have it not the C Four ultimate but like anything else I'm fine if it's got Beta Allen in it I'm fine but I can't have like argenine or Citroline. Um, or even like taurine I Gottanna be careful with touring and betain as well because any of that that will help with blood flow just will not fucking work. It just.

01:16:45.78

Stoph

The the taurine makes me think of ah the the Rogan Monster 1 monsters got taurine. It makes you makes you piss like a bull and then there's the fucking. What's his name. The ova's like.

01:16:55.71

christophknoll

Theo on yeah, make you beat your wife to on. Yeah, maybe you want to kick a fat Kidny Kmart you know I'm saying praise god um.

01:16:57.67

Stoph

Yeah, they make you want to beat your wife too and praise God maybe.

01:17:08.77

christophknoll

I know I got to be careful of that and like when we pull out artificial flavors and sweetening sweeteners and stuff like that. My pre out is literally just black coffee. That's all it is usually I'll make like an iced black coffee and like brew it as iced. Um, but that's my pre workout. That's it even on back days arm days. Whatever But what's crazy is that.

01:17:16.52

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

01:17:27.93

christophknoll

When you're that dialed in to where you're not even having all of that and your drenal gles in a good place and your whole system's in a great place. You're just depleted My pure cow is literally just salt like if I don't have my salt I have no fucking blood flow. But when I have my salt I got a gnarly as pump like I like probably so I mean the best.

01:17:36.23

Stoph

E.

01:17:47.45

christophknoll

Pump. Well okay, the best pump I've ever had that I could still remember to this day was a back pump from like I think it was like April or something or may like it was actually like in a cut I was in a cut. And it was after we put in masteron and I took a non-stim preric out or something after not having any for a while and hit back day and I legit like felt my back was going to fucking rip my shirt like it was so pumped up. Um. It was like I felt like I was like a turtle. My back was fucking rounded out. It was ridiculous I had to keep stretching because it's so pumped up but um, like arm days and stuff like that's pretty good when you're dialed in and you just have salt. It's just your body's so functioning to such a high degree that just assault just changes your entire blood flow.

01:18:29.22

Stoph

Ah.

01:18:42.24

christophknoll

Um, so yeah, that's good. It's good stuff but that's going to suck three weeks the last three weeks of prep is going to suck because I can't put equal I love equal. That's my favorite the sweetener and I put that on my coffee and I can't have that three weeks in three weeks out fucking. It's gonna stuck.

01:18:57.37

Stoph

Black coffee man. That's what I do might when I say black coffee. It's black like my my going up to the mountains I got specifically a.

01:19:00.77

christophknoll

Yeah, it is straight black coffee when I say I have black coffee every day I I mean like with equal sweetener because I like my coffee sweet. But yeah, it's just like.

01:19:17.50

Stoph

Blend of coffee like that someone else might enjoy when it's drink like drink completely black because I enjoy all coffee drink but like just completely black So I had to get something where like if someone else asked for coffee. They'll be like oh that's okay, yeah.

01:19:23.39

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:19:29.83

christophknoll

Yeah I think my thing is that I need to drink black coffee for a few days off of equal without equal and then I enjoy it again but equal just takes it to such a good degree for me like I don't need cream I don't need none of that but like the equal is just like oh it's so good.

01:19:36.97

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

01:19:47.40

christophknoll

Like I could genuinely tell when I didn't stir my coffee properly like I'll take it like what the fuck I'm like that is not sweet at all and then I'll stir it and I'm like oh there it is oh fuck like it's just it's just next level but I did buy this coffee that is so fucking So coffee.

01:19:53.52

Stoph

Um, ah.

01:19:55.62

Stoph

And.

01:20:03.84

christophknoll

Don even know how to explain it. It's Joe's organic or something. It's it's like a red black and white bag and it's just dark roast coffee and it is so like the caffeine isn't but the flavor is so unbelievably strong. Of just straight coffee like the most coffee flavored coffee beans I've ever got in my life like it's like they took coffee beans and they're like all right, let's make it coffee flavored then they make it they try it? No I need more coffee in there like that's what it was like they just kept adding coffee flavor. It's just I try to sip and it just punches you in the face. It's the most coffee flavored coffee ever. Um.

01:20:39.89

Stoph

It's like they took a coffee bean extracted the the Dna cloning and was like what if we quadrupled it.

01:20:48.80

christophknoll

Yeah, literally like let's just quadruple the flavor of the coffee bean itself. Don't add anything else to it. It's it's gnarly it is gnarly. So if you ever see it. Joe is organic. Um you gotta try just because it's so fucking gnarly but I just don't like it because of that it's just way too much coffee flavor for me.

01:21:03.60

Stoph

Yeah.

01:21:05.86

christophknoll

Like I like coffee like I can have straight like Starbucks or straight whatever blended coffee if it's just regular coffee but like that particular one which is is just so strong. Um, but that will also keep you filled up too black coffee will keep you full a lot of the time I have that in the morning and I'm usually good for a few hours after a couple mugs.

01:21:24.50

Stoph

Tell you.

01:21:25.70

christophknoll

Um, before I I'm hungry for another meal. So if you if youre traveling coffee you'll play a big role as well. Um, if you don't like coffee grow up. Um, no much plan. My wife doesn't like coffee. But.

01:21:29.83

Stoph

A.

01:21:37.82

Stoph

That's actually now that I also think about it I think that's also why I struggle to eat when I was teaching especially earlier on with my coach because I was drinking at that point and this was how bad my caffeine dependence was before noon before noon

01:21:51.34

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:21:55.44

Stoph

Would have a liter of coffee and then I would be making more coffee throughout the day to keep myself up and so naturally you like your body's like oh what good we could. We could just have coffee.

01:22:02.93

christophknoll

Yeah, you yeah no I mean it it does curb your hunger. That's why bodybuders rely on it so much every morning we have black coffee every morning Cbum has black coffee and prep. It's just part of prep is black coffee. Even if you don't like black coffee. It's gonna taste amazing when you're in prep.

01:22:21.30

Stoph

Um, yeah.

01:22:21.68

christophknoll

Um, it's just how things go. It's just it's just how it is so um, it does curb your hunger. That's also partially why they have like like I took my adderall out because adderall curves my hunger so much. Um, that like I could go price 6 hours without eating and not even realize it when I'm on my adderall. Have to talk I have to be like okay it's eleven thirty I got to go eat like that's what I say not like when I'm off it I'm like when am I eating I'm dying and it's like ten o'clock you know I'm like I'm ready to eat. Yeah I got like a minute counter.

01:22:47.75

Stoph

You get it. You get an alarm. It says time to eat your skinny bitch.

01:22:56.42

christophknoll

Um I have a gigantic minute counter. My second monitor it's kind of the minutes to when I get to eat I'm just playing that's not actually true, but that's how it feels like I'm literally watching the fucking minutes. Um, especially like not tonight because we're recording but like when I'm just watching Tv I keep checking the clock to see when I get to eat again. Ah.

01:22:59.62

Stoph

And.

01:23:13.79

Stoph

Um, yeah.

01:23:14.91

christophknoll

And granted now that I have like t 3 and t four in my system I have to time that shit. But um, yeah, it's it's pretty nuts. Klen does help though. Klen does kind of curb my hunger a little bit in the morning which is good I don't my stomach doesn't hurt going through cardio but which sucks that sucks so bad. But besides Adam. Coffee helps a lot. It does.

01:23:34.98

Stoph

Yeah, I'm right now it's tough because in the summer I don't work because as a teacher we just get summers off but right at the end of my teaching days when I wasn't working with my coach like when it was my diet I was so locked in for when I was eating I don't think that texted you like.

01:23:41.77

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:23:54.68

Stoph

The exact time that I'm going to the bathroom because it was just so consistent every day it was like oh 3 15 time to do it.

01:23:56.73

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, exactly and like that's the other thing too is that if like okay so when we were prep when I but the day of the show. Well tenderly the night of the show night before the show my coach said hey have you had any bowel movements. And I said I had a small one Thursday which is two days prior to the show. But I said really the last actual one was Wednesday and he said all right in the morning I want you to get up and just chug black coffee and I chugged like probably like 16 xteen anywhere from 16 to 24 I'm not even sure how many ounces it was I just know i. Ah, made my normal thirty ounces that I make and then put ice in it and then drink like more than half of it. So anywhere from 16 to 20 to 24 in that ballpark I drink most of it and then all of a sudden I fucking felt it hit I was like fuck. Yeah, so it's like when you're that dialed in like even coffee will just like will also speed up your digestion too. I mean anybody.

01:24:36.33

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

01:24:52.36

christophknoll

Anybody who drinks coffee will know that like you usually have to poop after fucking one mug of coffee. But um, when you try and target it like that. It's hilarious that you're just like just give me some coffee. You have some coffee and you you got a poop Ro row. Yeah so I got up at like fucking.

01:24:58.85

Stoph

He.

01:25:06.16

Stoph

You're like Reggie.

01:25:11.57

christophknoll

5 Fifteen the day of the show sleeping in a sweatshirt and sweatpants. That's what I slept in and socks because try not to get tanning on my fucking bed. Um, woke up at five fifteen didn't even take the covers off me I just stood up when my alarm went off and then I went out.

01:25:17.80

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

01:25:28.37

christophknoll

Put my context in went out made my coffee and took a shit and then left that was my entire morning the day the show. Yeah, it was It was wild and you just feel so gross with tan on it's like you're dirty. You're like oh and then they oil you up in shit.

01:25:32.80

Stoph

Jesus Christ

01:25:39.28

Stoph

I Talked with my I talked to my mom the other day and I was like I'm going to at some point buy throwaway sheets just because I'm not going to mess with my regular sheets on like it with with one of those stands.

01:25:54.14

christophknoll

It's honestly like you're just so I was so tired at that point I fell asleep no problem with a sweatshirt and sweatpants only like when no cover anything I just I just acted like I was in my bed normally and I just passed the fuck out if we had an extra pair of sheets. We probably would have done that. But.

01:26:03.24

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

01:26:10.71

christophknoll

It also like worked out fine because I'm mostly sleep on my back at this point but um I used to be a stomach sleeper 100 % but now more of a back sleeper. Um, and I also didn't need I didn't want to get any tan on my pillow too. So I just put my hood on. And just passed the fuck out and just stayed like that the entire night I literally had like my hands crossed on my stomach like the entire night I'd try not to touch anything because they also get your hands. They get the top of your hands. Um, so I was trying not to touch anything so I just fucking cross my hands and just pass the fuck out so that and that sucked too because I also went in pale. Um.

01:26:35.45

Stoph

Yep.

01:26:45.64

christophknoll

Not not super pale but I was white going into the tan so they had to do 2 layers I was there for like 45 minutes to an hour just waiting for the tan to dry where guys were in and out in like 10 minutes especially if you have dark dark complexion like if you have like african descent. You're there for like a light asked hand and you're fucking out like that's it.

01:27:01.80

Stoph

Yeah.

01:27:04.51

christophknoll

Like they're in and out in 5 minutes so I saw like 20 groups of dudes go through his fucking bullshit.

01:27:09.34

Stoph

And you're just standing there like first time yup.

01:27:12.84

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, standing in front of fans like standing in front of fans trying to dry off and then I left and my whole head was white and the recipe was orange I was like motherfucker all that for nothing but then it ended up calming down and then then did the bronze or the next day so ended up being pretty tanned but. Know what I'm doing not going into this next show I'm gonna try to tan for a couple weeks prior to the show not get burned trying really not I'm gonna avoid not I'm really trying to avoid burning as much as I possibly can um but then go into it as dark as I possibly can as far as Tan goes, but it's a bitch.

01:27:38.41

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

01:27:46.15

Stoph

So I was going to say it's the perfect time to go out and just like read outside or something like that.

01:27:51.52

christophknoll

Yeah, um, I'm probably gonna do that like that's what I was considering is like Monday Wednesday Friday or something going out um to like my apartment complexes like pool and um, reading like laying in the what are like the beach chair things that they have there and and reading during like my lunch break I just I just.

01:28:08.85

Stoph

Yep.

01:28:11.46

christophknoll

Really don't feel like going out there and sweating that's my problem I'm just like oh I just don't want to sweat right now and I'm just like a lot of time I'm just really tired I mean I could just go take like an hour nap that would actually help a lot of my sleep if I just went and took an hour nap outside but I have to flip I want to make sure I get both sides I got a do a half hour on my front and half hour my back. So.

01:28:32.69

Stoph

That's why audiobooks you got me into them and they are godsend when it comes to that. You just have like for me my airpods in and you just sit there.

01:28:37.87

christophknoll

I Told you yeah yeah, audiobooks are great. The only problem with Audiobooks you got to find a good narrator because there's some narrators a fucking suck. Um.

01:28:46.82

Stoph

Well so I did Arnold's autobiography and he does the first 2 chapters on the last two chapters and it's I'm yeah so I'm german I've listened to this I mean ausshrian accents are different but at the end of the day. It's a germanic tongue. So I'm used to it.

01:29:01.10

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:29:05.68

Stoph

But it's still really surprising to hear chapter one. So.

01:29:09.75

christophknoll

Chapter one. How do build a good body. Um I'm starting to watch the arnold documentary on Netflix too I like everybody's talking about it right now they're like it's even um.

01:29:18.75

Stoph

But I haven't haven't watched it because I feel like it's going to be a lot of what I just like listen to.

01:29:24.81

christophknoll

So that's was about to say so the Cbum podcast. The reason I started watching the documentaries because other people are telling me to watch it who don't bodybuil like my wife's boss who runs the daycare she works at um, she said you guys got to watch it.

01:29:38.86

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

01:29:40.43

christophknoll

So like there's way more to it than just it's not like we're watching pumping iron. You know it's not like about bodybuilding. It's just about his life and during that podcast the guy interviewing cbum says that like even though the interviewer is not american I think he's like british or something I forget what his accent was um, might have been swedish or so I don't know. But. Um, he said even though that he's not american he said after watching that he felt a sense of pride like patriotism from it because like it just shows what it's like to kind of be an american and move to America what it's like to be here as part of the documentary. And he said it's it's it was very intriguing and he's been here plenty of times like guy has been here plenty of times to know what it's like already. But that's what made you want to watch it I'm like okay so it's not just about bodybuil it's way more than that it already is like the I'm like 20 minutes in the first episode. That's it and it's just been about how he got like how he was raised. Like he talked about like the generational differences and like what his parents were like versus like how they are today and um, what Austria looks like um yeah, he actually started talking about his dad's alcoholism and like how competitive his dad was in every single aspect of his life.

01:30:35.61

Stoph

Yep.

01:30:41.30

Stoph

Has he gone in has he gotten into his dad's drinking yet.

01:30:50.95

Stoph

Yep yep, that's what I mean like I this is what I mean like I can tell you bait. But if you gave me the year I could probably tell you what's going to happen because I just listened to it.

01:30:54.84

christophknoll

Like they would go out and.

01:30:59.93

christophknoll

Yeah I mean it's it's not that strict yet I think you're talking about the 50 s right now or something like it's just like the timeline of like the stories he was telling I think was in the 50 s when he was a kid. But yeah, it's really good so far and it's like professionally made. It's not like some like low budget.

01:31:18.49

Stoph

When ah, let me know when you get to the story of his mom bringing his brother to the hospital because that is a legendary story and yeah, there's there's 1 story in particular where his brother. Ah.

01:31:19.80

christophknoll

Documentary.

01:31:27.50

christophknoll

All right? Yeah, she he was talking about her too and how clean she was um.

01:31:35.20

Stoph

His brother got really sick and what his mom does is just like absolute like you know? Yeah, if you ever hear the stories of like mom lifting cars the other kids out. It's the same level like it's absurd.

01:31:43.93

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, that's that's how I want to be as dad I Want to be the fucking dad that like all the kids go to school and my kids like yeah, my dad's stronger than your dad and they're like yeah you're right? You know what? I mean like they win that argument every time.

01:31:56.85

Stoph

It's like the the meme the meme of beetle juice walking into that club with his package Jersey on and the ah the sunlassing he's like me walking in knowing that I out bench press everybody in the company and therefore own the company.

01:32:09.20

christophknoll

Yeah, exactly exactly that's yeah, that's that's what I want them to do walking into school. She's knowing that their dad's fucking biggest one there like biggest dad of other that all their friends you know like that's my goal I be a fucking gigantic dude just holding a little tiny as baby like that's what I want you know what? I mean.

01:32:12.86

Stoph

I.

01:32:18.64

Stoph

Yup now.

01:32:28.49

christophknoll

And won't be able to literally lift a car if I have to.

01:32:29.28

Stoph

And lily holding like a like palming like a protein thing like the big jugs and the baby at the same time Mike my baby drinks dematize fruity pebbles.

01:32:35.79

christophknoll

I got like damatizing 1 hand my baby in the other hand or like whatever I'm sponsored by at the time with a dash of anov our I mean just the fruity pebble pop protein powder.

01:32:50.23

Stoph

We we mix my we mix breast milk with creatine. My kid's gonna be strong.

01:32:58.60

christophknoll

He's gonna be swoll as fuck before he's walking. But yeah I know that's the goal as ah, as ah as a parent and as a dad I'm excited to be a dad one day. It'd be good. We're still talking about it. we're hoping next year we're hoping next year we're gonna pop out a little one. That's the goal.

01:33:08.75

Stoph

Hell you? so.

01:33:14.13

Stoph

So I'll ah I'll meet you there whenever I find someone to lock me down.

01:33:15.48

christophknoll

Just comes out of money. Yeah, yeah, when you find a crazy latina that that fits your bill. There is yeah something like that. Whatever your type is I'm not even fully sure what your type is. But.

01:33:20.79

Stoph

Something like that something like that.

01:33:31.87

Stoph

Ah.

01:33:33.36

christophknoll

You like him you like him a little crazy sometimes um.

01:33:36.29

Stoph

Craig Crazy keeps it interesting but ah yeah, there's there's 1 type in particular but not for the podcast.

01:33:45.61

christophknoll

Yeah, that's fine. That's fine. Um, but yeah, so all good stuff lately. Um I'm trying to think what else can I add about my yes or for those I don't know I did have a stomach bug last weekend trying to record the podcast last weekend then we ended up posting but Joe Lindner I was trying not to ship my brains out the entire time.

01:34:01.91

Stoph

Yeah, yep.

01:34:03.44

christophknoll

Um, doesn't seem like it but I was right after we were done I went to the bathroom and chipped my brains out. Um it was really bad for.

01:34:11.30

Stoph

That's what he's saying. That's what he's saying. But if you ah listen to it turn up your base all the way every 3 minutes you'll hear. Yeah, you yeah I was going to say you texted me and you're like.

01:34:18.72

christophknoll

No Dude I couldn't even fart Bro. It was so bad I could not trust a far I'd shit myself. No, you can't um I can trust it now which is weird. It's weird being able to fart now because before like you you can't fart when you're on a when you have a stomachbugger like that because you're just gonna shit yourself. There's no such thing as Farting. Um, but.

01:34:28.75

Stoph

I Can't trust it man I can't I can't.

01:34:39.96

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

01:34:44.74

christophknoll

Yeah I just it was so bad and it was about it was probably a good solid three days of it being pretty bad Monday was bad too towards the end of the night like the nighttime it was weird cause like what sucked is that when I sit on the toilet I'd feel fine. It would go away I'd feel completely normal. I'd stand up. It would come rushing back. It sucked so I had to just I ended up sitting on the toilet for like like on and off for like an hour and a half just trying to try and to get through that night and then I got through it and it were fine.

01:35:03.10

Stoph

Gear.

01:35:11.29

Stoph

Standing up sitting down standing up.

01:35:16.20

christophknoll

Literally that's exactly what it was like I tried everything I could possibly think of till get through that and finally it happened and we were good but um, yes Friday Saturday I was just so fucking depleted I just I ended up hitting a chess day actually had a really good chests pump is actually surprising um but it was so hard so ended up. Um. Ended up losing roughly £5 of weight the span of about three days because that stomach bug. Um, it actually did kind of set us up for the future because like this morning I weighed myself and I was 87 where my last weigh in on set. Ah. It was Tuesday my last weigh in on Tuesday was one eighty four point five and I know I was going to put a little bit more weight probably back on. Um, once I started holding on water holding onto food all of that but just being 87 now after a few days only a pound and a half really that's really not that bad considering I started the stomach bug at like. Almost one ninety so I mean we're we're keeping it off for the most part which is exciting. Um, but yeah, it's it's sucked and I got through it but it also made me appreciate prep because it was just like I didn't want to eat anything like.

01:36:16.31

Stoph

Yeah.

01:36:28.20

christophknoll

You were there when we were recording like before we suppressed record like I was gagging trying to eat my talaian rice like dawas and mustard even like just fucking gagging I just couldn't do it I don't know'm not even finishing it and I did tell my coachels like over the weekend Saturday specifically mainly Sunday as well. But mainly Saturday I was like.

01:36:35.23

Stoph

Yep.

01:36:47.10

christophknoll

I only had part of each meal. Really I was like so overall I probably overall missed a couple meals a day because I just couldn't fucking stomach it it just nothing like I just smelling or even just thinking about food. Maybe want to throw the fuck up. It's just my so my body was telling me like dude you don't want food right now like. Just need to focus on getting the shit out of you literally? So um, we got through it and it's just like it just made me appreciate it because when you're in prep. Um, you're just hungry. You're just hungry going into each meal. You're kind of tired. Not really physically exhausted just mentally because you just don't have much in your system. So you're just kind of mentally tired. Um, and then especially towards like peak Week. You start getting physically tired but mentally tired for most of it. You're hungry. You just want to eat. That's all you want to do but because of that whenever you eat something you know, whatever it is most like it's going to taste good right now fishes and tasted very good for me. But if I put mustard on it. It tastes good. And with the stomach bug I had the force feed a lot of my meals and that's when I texted you I was like dude like every time I have like ah like going through prep I'm like man I wish I could just force feed right now like that have that much food. But then I force feed I'm like dude this sucks so fucking bad like I'd rather be hungry now that I force fed for the first time and.

01:37:46.74

Stoph

Yeah.

01:38:03.67

christophknoll

Ever Like I would rather be hungry all day long than have to force feed like it's just it sucks so fucking bad I can't even express it I mean you know what I'm talking about but like it fucking sucks when you're gag and you still got to eat. You don't even doesn't taste good anymore because just you just want to be done and all you want to do is stop eating.

01:38:08.91

Stoph

It's no fun.

01:38:22.38

christophknoll

Ah.

01:38:22.73

Stoph

So that's what's turned in by ah I have 2 shakes 2 of the same shake every day and it's basically a banana pe and a butter. There's other stuff in it but those are the base like for flavor doesn't taste good anymore. It tastes like I'm drinking like soggy cog cardboard with like.

01:38:29.45

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:38:39.87

Stoph

I Don't know like bong water like that's what it tastes like to me and it's disgusting and I know if I didn't have it for like a week and then had it again. It'd be great I would love it. But it's just I'm forcing it so much. That's what actually what I had before I came because I had to drive over to my buddies place to record tonight. But ah.

01:38:39.94

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:38:46.91

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:38:58.63

Stoph

I had my my rice and pork which is well you know I always have rice and pork and then one of these smoothies and it's my pre- gym meal I already went to the gym today but I keep my meals the same. But um, it was ah I have the rice and pork goes down easy because it's nothing else. It's just that and then drinking. Drinking is supposed to make it easier but it's hard to get that other one down and it's like it doesn't taste good anymore. It's like oh come on man.

01:39:18.79

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, it's it sucks and I think that's also kind of why fish got ruined for me too is because it just like the stomach bug and just associated fish with how I felt it's just Toop and sandwich is so hard to get down now. So I think.

01:39:33.97

Stoph

Yep.

01:39:38.40

christophknoll

Next time I'm going to eat through the I bought cans of salmon canned salmon is pretty much identical to frozen salmon. Um, as far as like nutrition goes and how healthy it is and whatnot I think once I run through these cans should be just a couple days if we don't change the plan tomorrow after my way in I'm just going to start buying frozen salmon and cooking it on the grill. Because I remember Peak Week we had a couple meals of salmon and rice and dude I could have fucking cried. It tasted so good. It didn't taste like salmon. It didn't taste fishy it just it tasted like too like honestly what it tasted like was sushi. It tasted like a salmon roll is what it tasted like. So if I could just cook it's in a similar way to that without the rice. Granted.

01:40:07.89

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

01:40:15.35

christophknoll

It will. It'll probably taste amazing. It's just a can shit. It's just so fucking fishy um I just got to just tough through the next couple cans really because they're expensive like five bucks a can and it's like I get like about ten ounces out of it. So I got to tough it through these next couple of cans that already bought and then just move on from there but it fucking sucks. Force feeding sucks so much as but when you do for it. That's why I say to you like just force feed it because part of forcefeeding also is that you're growing your stomach and when you grow your stomach to a bigger size. You can stomach the meals easier when I was with my previous coach. We had a lot of calories as well.

01:40:36.70

Stoph

Yep.

01:40:53.30

christophknoll

Three and a half four thousand calories or whatever at the time was a lot for me and I had to force feed in the beginning and it sucked. But then once I got used to it I enjoyed every single meal because my stomach was big enough to handle it now I had to train my stomach to eat it.

01:41:07.59

Stoph

That actually is I was watching a ah, not documentary just little Youtube video whileet 8 earlier today and it was golden era versus modern bodybuilding and how golden era you know they still looked proportionately phenomenal like it was you know. Best era of bodybuilding but then modern bodybuilders they're just so much bigger and the gut is a big thing like the bubble gut that develops like what hits? Well who's the guy I think it's I think big Rami has that well I mean modern like who's going through it right now I think.

01:41:34.32

christophknoll

Um, yeah, as bloating issue polumbo leave polumbo yeah Phil Heath did

01:41:45.38

Stoph

Rammi has a problem with it but ah, a lot and especially yeah, a lot of guys in open are the ones who struggle with it and it's like that it's because they're eating so much more now than back then they ate you know still for like a bodybuilding diet like not and not like.

01:41:50.50

christophknoll

Okay.

01:42:02.98

Stoph

Ah, measly amount of food like it was a decent amount of food but nowadays it's like there was the the guy Greg Greg Kovax I want to say he was like swedish or whatever he was doing 13000 gallories a day.

01:42:09.72

christophknoll

I. You know.

01:42:16.92

Stoph

You know how fucking much that is and he got to put the the bubble gut bloating and everything like.

01:42:20.13

christophknoll

Yeah that's the bubble gut thing is also a problem. It's its it stems a little bit from the size of the stomach. But also it's called. It's called polomboism because that's who had it first that people remember it was Dave Polumbo and it comes down to something to do with like. Insulin sensitivity and potentially even taking insulin on top of taking too much carbs prior to the show which you then end up bloating and that's what it is. It's just a very harsh blow and there's nothing that they can do about it. You can't just like extract the gas you can't just fart in your it's gone. It stays for the day. Um, so that's the problem Phil Heath had it. Um, he had it pretty bad. There was a there's beef that him and Kai had because guy Kai stood to the side and looked at his gut and was like like gave him attitude by looking at him because it's like you're trying to bring the best package ever. He ended up fucking winning but he's like.

01:43:10.52

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

01:43:17.30

christophknoll

You're supposed to be this like multi-winning Olympia and you're coming in with his bubble gut and Kai didn't have it. He didn't have one so um, but like yeah, the bubble gut is an issue and. Overeating is an issue for men's open bodybuilders. Not so much. Men's physique guys or classysique guys can sometimes have the issue where they get too big but men's physique guys don't have the problem but men's open do where they overeat like that they have they eat too much when someone like Brian Shaw doesn't eat as much as you eat when you're men's open bodybuilder that is a problem the most I've ever seen of a healthy eating bodybuilder is nine Thousand calories that's the most I've ever seen um at least anecdotally that's the most I ever seen probably more. But.

01:43:56.19

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

01:44:04.70

christophknoll

13000 is definitely not good calories. You're taking in there. There's no way and it's not good for you. You don't need that much. That's my opinion.

01:44:10.95

Stoph

And it really just I mean it's the difference of bodybuilding then versus now I mean that's why I stick to classic physique so much because it just for me like watching the you know the Arnolds or you know. That's what I want to watch like that's what appeals to me like open just doesn't appeal to me I know I and that's what I I say my stageway I want my stage weight to be 47 so I feel that so.

01:44:30.64

christophknoll

Arnold was big though he's like he was like two fifty on stage. Yeah, he's bigger than the classic guys.

01:44:39.37

christophknoll

Yeah, that's like the that's either the upper range or probably past the upper range of classic physique as far as stage weight goes I Want to say stage weight for classic Physique is not as much as people think it is and when you see classic Physique guys like when I saw the classic Physique guys at the local show.

01:44:45.98

Stoph

Okay, yeah, okay.

01:44:58.64

christophknoll

They're really not as big as you think that they're going to be the men's open guys even aren't nearly I mean great. We're talking regional So they're all not as big as they're supposed to be but um, but like they did have a guest poser there who was a pro and he was much bigger than all the men's open guys. But.

01:45:04.16

Stoph

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:45:14.53

christophknoll

Class Physique guys were really not nearly as big as you think and a lot of the guys who competed in men's physique can also compete in classic physique like that's just the size translation is just easy. It's easy for that. It's not as big as you think it is but it's also very healthy. Classic Phyique is a lot healthier. The men's open. Um. And that's what seabum touches on in that podcast. He he's like there's really no reason for him to push like a shit ton of drugs right now because he's at the upper limit of his of his weight in the class. So and that's like heeled.

01:45:40.16

Stoph

Oh I saw I saw something that said that he's changing to open. Yeah I heard I might be wrong. But I think I saw something.

01:45:47.63

christophknoll

Seabum oh never, there is never brion. Ainsley I think he's doing to 12 now. But he's been back and forth but Seebum will never do men's open that'll never happen. He's too good in classic. He's the reigning champ. He's too good.

01:46:01.32

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

01:46:03.82

christophknoll

He he'd have to put on way more size. He'd have to put on another hundred pounds in off season the offseason and probably not a hundred maybe like 60 to 80 probably.

01:46:08.90

Stoph

Well, it's like well it's like the the where does he go from here because he's already wanted 4 times on row. Yeah, you can try and go for you know the 8 times on a row but you why.

01:46:21.57

christophknoll

I mean same thing with the men's open guys like wow they keep going but the point is is to is to beat your previous self is to get better and better and better and ideally at that point you're gonna go down as a Mr Olympia but will you go down as a legend like that's what that's.

01:46:29.50

Stoph

Yeah.

01:46:37.65

Stoph

You yep.

01:46:40.43

christophknoll

That's what the goal is at that point So C Bum's going to go down as arguably the most popular bodybuilder of all time as well as a legend within classic physique who really who really brought it to the to the headlines like if it wasn't for cbom classic Physique would not be where it is today. Not even close.

01:46:56.59

Stoph

And when you say like bodybuilding to like the younger generation. They can't even name open competitors. They name like Cbum. So.

01:47:03.27

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, people are starting to talk stop talking about open open is gonna open's going to slowly die out and what's also good too is at the same time I see men's physique being more and more common now too now that it's getting bigger and leaner. You're seeing a lot more men's physique guys too which is great.

01:47:07.12

Stoph

Yeah.

01:47:20.23

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

01:47:22.67

christophknoll

Um, and the the smaller board shorts the smaller and smaller the board shorts the more and more guys you're going to see compete So that's also a great thing too and men's phsic guys Really I know you don't like it but we're really not that much smaller than the class of Physique guys. Yeah.

01:47:33.95

Stoph

And I don't ever say that you're not. It's my argument is always the posing stuff. But.

01:47:40.12

christophknoll

Yeah, just the posing in the legs. The lack of the legs but that's also dying out too lack of legs is also dying out which is great. But yeah, it's just the current state. Um, but yeah, we had a problem with Loan Franklin with what we're talking about earlier with the traveling with the foods. He had a problem Logan Franklin who's one of my favorite classic physiques. Um.

01:47:44.77

Stoph

Yeah.

01:47:59.29

christophknoll

He had a problem with his I think he had a stomach bug similar to what I had the week of the show and he just they decided to pull out because it just he was not going to come to a hundred percent and he would had to really push his body to get there and it just would not have happened but it was ended up being food poisoning was food poisoning because he travel of fish.

01:48:11.18

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

01:48:17.24

christophknoll

And that's 1 thing I will never recommend is do not ever travel with fish just cook it fresh ideally as much as possible. You don't want to travel with it. Um I try to make maybe one day in advance like I'll make like like to like right now for my it tilaia I'll make like the. I'll cook it in an oven and I'll maybe have like 2 meals cooked already and that just got to heat it up and make awave anything more than that I'm not fucking with it I don't want I don't want cooked tolapy in the fridge for more than a day. Um, so and don't travel with tilaia or fish or anything like that's why ideally stay away from sway but like.

01:48:39.43

Stoph

Um, yeah.

01:48:53.20

Stoph

Chicken chicken and beef. My friends cook it and eat it seven days later

01:48:53.43

christophknoll

Anything like that cod haddock stay away from all that. Yeah just stick to yes dick stick to that shit is you really can cook chicken and eat it a week later I've done it plenty of times.

01:49:04.29

Stoph

Yeah, that's my Sunday meals I mean granted like I mentioned earlier taste is really falling by the wayside but my Sunday meals are more or less tasting the same as my Monday meals. Okay.

01:49:13.50

christophknoll

Yeah, yup, exactly? Um, so yeah, you' just got to be careful of that. But besides that um yeah, you gotta be careful, the fish red meat and white meat as far as chicken goes is not too bad. Um.

01:49:28.33

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

01:49:30.94

christophknoll

To to to travel with is really not that bad. But yeah, just be to be careful because you can get food poisoning very easily from fish. It's way too easy and I make sure that I overcook my fish a little bit just to be sure that it's done but you gotta be careful but take everything we say.

01:49:42.51

Stoph

Yeah, yeah.

01:49:49.27

christophknoll

Um, as advice and not as um, how it should be 100% try to you can adapt anything that we say yeah take it with a grain of salt you can adapt it to. However, you want to adapt it to what works for us might not work for you guys. But at the end of the day. This is just what we experienced and what we see and stuff like that. So.

01:49:56.82

Stoph

Grain of salt.

01:50:07.27

Stoph

If this podcast wasn't hollow of gains and hypertrophy it'd be like anecdotal advice. Yeah.

01:50:08.42

christophknoll

Um.

01:50:14.55

christophknoll

Yeah, literally it's just like anecdotal fitness advice a Adf or no afa anecdotal fitness advice. Yeah, get to the chop of ah, um, yeah, so anyways.

01:50:21.00

Stoph

Yeah, but La Missed opportunity.

01:50:31.73

christophknoll

Yeah, um, but appreciate you guys listening? Um, again if you guys have any questions email us hg podcast one at Gmail.com or Dms directly. We can talk about it. We're just waiting to build up some questions and then we'll go from there but we appreciate you guys listening. We love doing this. We love chatting. We look forward to it every week so appreciate you guys listening. We'll see you guys.

01:50:51.57

Stoph

Oh you guys add everybody please.


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