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HGH #44: Are Supplement Companies Untrustworthy? Part 2


01:00:43.54

Paul

Don't lie to me. It's like ah it's like the ice cream flum from a clouder the ch of meatballs and like everybody's in vanilla and chocolate and the 1 kid's like well my favorite strawberry you like falls in the strawberry ice cream. That's that guy she' like the one outlier. And they're like buoy him and he's like yeah I just the what braven out the fucking say it, you're all thick in it. You all know the mystery flavors the best 1 yeah, it's just like or like ah.

01:01:02.97

christophknoll

You know you know on on second thought maybe it's a good idea that we aren't in charge of it. Yeah, who is your celebrity crush.

01:01:15.33

Paul

You're like yeah oh it's like your favorite quote. What's your favorite quote will put that on your on your speedo and I'm just like I want the entire declaration of Independence I Want a gigantic poster hanging from my waist blocking my legs.

01:01:26.11

christophknoll

Ah.

01:01:33.54

christophknoll

Intentionally have a hamstring like deficit and just have your the back of the Independence goal there.

01:01:39.76

Paul

Yeah, exactly just covers up your biggest weakness or something like that that'd be funny. Um, but I was gonna say like favoriteite cream so he's like mid chocolate chip man. It's my favorite.

01:01:47.93

christophknoll

Um, well that's like that's like in that's like in in golf where if someone has a mulligan and you gone on stage and like you you clearly like let's say. For example, you clearly have no buyupp or ah, very like very lack of bicep and you just hold up the Mulligan card.

01:02:05.23

Paul

You got a handicap of like plus 5 points or something I have to place with at least 5 points you need you, you need to give that to me. It's my handicap I bought it? yeah.

01:02:05.40

christophknoll

Yeah, like you can't judge me on this. Yeah.

01:02:16.40

christophknoll

Respect my handicap.

01:02:22.50

Paul

They're like you like like they're like okay, what's 1 specific muscle we you want us to ignore and it's like I want my left short head bicep my left by head biceps shorthead ignore that please do like okay it is done.

01:02:37.10

christophknoll

Well, you know that's actually interesting. There's I saw I know if there's Instagram or social media or whatever. Um, there's this kid who has um, it's some kind of muscular like like you know, either height, not hypertension, but some kind of muscular deficiency. Where his right arm is essentially immobilized but he trains his left ah or whatever it is. Maybe you have it mixed up but he trains his one side and his back just like everything legs. Are you know, totally fine, but his upper body is all just that one side and it's like.

01:02:56.30

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:03:11.34

christophknoll

Pretty damn close to like Amateur bodybuilding level that he's trained it to so he would just walk in be like this one can't can't.

01:03:13.90

Paul

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this entire right side if you like Hovels on stage can I just point my left side at Everybody. You guys don't need to see my right just act like doesn't even there just like.

01:03:27.84

christophknoll

That would actually be a pretty pretty interesting. You know division for like the handicapped like you have like people who have those problems or whatever and still let them compete that would be pretty interesting Actually now that I think about it.

01:03:34.25

Paul

Yeah.

01:03:42.41

Paul

Um, they have they have like the wheelchair divisions but they don't have like handicappped divisions. So I wonder if that would ever be it like there are guys who've competed in the wheelchair division who like literally don't even have legs. Um, but like but like they I think it would be interesting to have like ah like a handicapped.

01:03:45.46

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:03:52.21

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:03:59.67

Paul

Division that's separate from wheelchair where like he's like you're saying like you have like a unique issue that like wouldn't fit into wheelchair or into regular body building so you'd fit into the Handicap space. You know what? I mean.

01:04:11.37

christophknoll

And the problem is though with that kind of a division is that like with wheelchair division. Obviously they're not training like someone don't even have legs like you are literally just training from abs up or you are just judging from Abs up whereas in a.

01:04:24.82

Paul

Yeah.

01:04:27.79

christophknoll

Like an open handicap division. You don't know like there's no concruity. There's no one Baseline because like for example, one person. Let's say like let's say a veteran comes back and just doesn't have a right arm and someone else's thing is like they have like a messed up pectoral issue and like.

01:04:33.35

Paul

That's fair. Yeah.

01:04:45.62

Paul

Yeah I mean yeah I was going to say you could just do something like where they just get on stage and they just participate in the competition like there's no actual awards you know what? I mean it's just like you just get on stage and do it.

01:04:47.64

christophknoll

You can't It's like apples oranges. You can't really do it. It would be more like honorary nominees or stuff like that.

01:05:03.66

Paul

And they they give you the the stage through that they give you the platform to be able to achieve that you know what I mean I mean that's a lot of a lot of like local competitions. That's really what it is is like a lot of these guys especially on the older side like lost a lot of weight or are in still decent shape so they.

01:05:08.29

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:05:21.30

Paul

Want to compete in a show and even though they're nowhere near like what the judges are looking for. They're still given the platform to be able to be like this is what I've achieved I'm proud of it. Let me show it like there's this one guy there I remember my last show probably I didn't talk to him probably the nicest guy ever. You could tell he lost a lot of weight and he had like a lot of skin left over and all of that and he was like in his fifty s or whatever but like he just wanted to step on stage just to step on stage and he was just happy to be able to do that. You know what? I mean so like that's an accomplishment and it's in and of itself you know, granted, you know, somebody like me or somebody like you would go for the win because we're trying to compete.

01:05:47.85

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:05:58.58

Paul

It's like it's comparing. It's a comparing um, competitive soccer to like wreck soccer you know I mean like people just want to have fun doing. It are also there as well. Um, so it's.

01:06:03.80

christophknoll

And yeah. Well, that's that's ultimately going to be where I end up going because like if I choose not to you know pursue The even just an amateur scale on the bodybull and just continue to like my heavyagg aggressives Lifestyle Fitness like.

01:06:22.19

Paul

Okay.

01:06:24.30

christophknoll

I will just step on stage one of these times literally just to be able to say that I didn't enjoy that moment like even though I know I'll be completely wiped with like the completely taken out I'm still going to do it just to have that moment because that would be just it. It's even though it is on an amateur scale an honor to be up on that stage.

01:06:27.87

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:06:43.68

christophknoll

Like it doesn't matter how low scale it is.

01:06:44.47

Paul

Yeah, exactly yeah, there's ah, there's that 1 guy that rich piano knew that was like in his forty s and his doctor said that if you try to compete in the olympia you're going to die and.

01:06:53.34

christophknoll

Oh and he died right? after? yeah.

01:06:56.88

Paul

Yeah, he died a week after the show or whatever but like that was enough for him which is stepping on that stage was enough to be able to qualify for the olympian step on that stage and like a lot of these guys take it for fucking granted like they're like getting pissed about it or like you know, just get qualified for the olympia and they're like they just go and compete and don't say anything about it. It's like did you just competed on the biggest stage of the world and like.

01:07:14.54

christophknoll

Yeah I would I would I would not have an Instagram post after I competed on the o that wasn't an olympia related post. It would just be that for the rest of my life.

01:07:16.88

Paul

And you don't even say a single thing. It's just wild to me.

01:07:25.68

Paul

Yeah, dude man you got guys competing in pro division or even like on a national scale and they'll post their show photos like six months after the fucking show I'm like dude we get it. We saw what you looked like like you're still posting it.

01:07:40.55

christophknoll

Um, well I would do that just because I would do that just out of pride. Yeah.

01:07:44.10

Paul

The Olympia understandable. Yeah, the olympia is understandable but like you to like aren't even pro yet or npc level and they're still posting their their state shots from like six months ago and it's like okay I mean that's great. You're proud I just think that there's like you've you've got a long way like to me like if you're.

01:07:51.80

christophknoll

Okay I get that? yeah.

01:08:02.86

Paul

Like six months or a year I'll be a completely different physique. So it's like I don't want to I might post it as a comparison be like this is where I was on stage then is where I am now I'm leaner bigger and better than I was on that stage then sure but like just posting it and being like got to. Aim for what you want in life or whatever. It's like dude I've seen you you look a lot better now that you did then why you posting that. But that's just my opinion. Um, but yeah, it is. It is an honor to be able to step on stage and and it is a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun stepping on stage is nerveracking but it's fun.

01:08:25.30

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:08:35.78

christophknoll

While even like not even on stage just doing poses. That's honestly a ton of fun. It's a ton of fun like and even if you have an absolute mid physique like for example, empire It's generally a shirt on rule like you're not supposed to really be.

01:08:40.85

Paul

I Love it.

01:08:55.39

christophknoll

Taking off your shirt people do it like there's some like dudes who compete compete and when they take off their shirt. It's like oh shit we're all going to fucking shut up now. But and there's other dudes. Yeah.

01:09:05.13

Paul

That's my goal when I come up there I'm still I'm still going to be stage ready so'm I'm going to take off my my shirt and be like dice of the gill still viny is fucking everything. That's my goal and still Tan Mytan will still be there so that's my goal anyway, sorry keep going.

01:09:13.91

christophknoll

Yelp Hell yeah, but there's the I saw this the other day on all the cable machines are in so we have the corner an empire where there's mirrors that can that.

01:09:30.11

Paul

Um, yeah, and there's like the Smith machine there and a ah, a big racked cable machine. Yeah.

01:09:31.35

christophknoll

Attached to each other and yeah, yeah, yeah, and that's also the best spot to do any kind of pictures like the one I sent you with the dark lighting that is in that little corner just because you get an overtop small slit Window. You have just enough downlighting. It's. Literally the perfect spot to take a picture but the problem is it's super busy in that area because it's That's the only cable spot and Smith Spot. So I'm doing like I think I was doing my lat reverse Grip pulldowns and I see this one dude who it blows my mind that he's 19 Like this. What I mean with like how we talk about people who are just built for this kind of stuff like the way he looks I Honestly, expect him to be my age or older and he's 19 and it blows my mind and he's super Humble. He wears the baggie of stuff all the time because he just doesn't want to show off his physique. Um, but then this one this other dude who has just and.

01:10:09.25

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:10:27.10

christophknoll

Mid fit like not even like below mid like low Ti like he just does not have good build. He's in the gym all the time. So I don't know how he's probably has a terrible diet like he's not making really gains. Um, yeah, and.

01:10:38.29

Paul

Yeah, he's just at the gym to to train and be be active and stuff.

01:10:45.14

christophknoll

Exactly and he's talking with this other dude and the guys like showing him how to do like a front like chest spread um or a front ah front sorry front lat spread to emphasize chest and he the dude with just no physique at all ribs off his shirt is just sitting there doing the pose and I was at first I wanted to you know.

01:10:49.45

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:11:05.10

christophknoll

In my head I was being super negative about it. But then I was thinking to myself and I was like I love posing that much too and even though I feel like I have a much better physique than that it doesn't matter when it comes to that because it's just fun to do that and like especially the first time like the first time that I pose with you and you actually showed me how to do stuff like you noticed.

01:11:09.66

Paul

Me.

01:11:23.12

christophknoll

Things about yourself that you didn't notice before and that's a feeling that you just chase every single time that you do those poses. So obviously you see improvement like I mean you and I talk about my side chest that has come leaps and bounds from where it was you know two years ago but just being able to see that monument or.

01:11:23.76

Paul

E.

01:11:42.52

christophknoll

Progressive improvement throughout the time of just doing your poses like that's part of the the rush you know.

01:11:45.84

Paul

Yeah, it it really is and like that's why like if I could truly pick whatever I want to do for a living I want to be a opposing coach because I could I could do that truly all day like half hour each client and just picking a part they're posing I could truly do that all day long.

01:11:53.56

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:12:02.91

Paul

Love it. It's just it's so it's so much fun. It's it's what I love I love training. Don't get me wrong, but like I'm very particular on on who I would train so like I wouldn't be able to build like an actual like career out of it but like posing absolutely I would love to be opposing coach and it's to me. It's posing is one of the things that's. 1 of the only things in life that's ever come like naturally to me like it's every single pose I've ever done has come naturally to me for the most part and like if I'm looking at a photo especially now in the day back in the day. Not so much but now I could truly really pick it apart and like actually kind of do the pose.

01:12:25.91

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:12:40.46

Paul

Ah, if I could just see like 1 photo of it for the most part if I could see a video of like a wraparound of what it looks like then I could really get it going but it's something that I've naturally been able to get dialed in. Um so like building a paw posing like you were saying you get a better mind most of connection. Your your physique overall just drastically improves and ah you just know how to manipulate your body in a much better way. So um, like between now like 1 of the biggest things I've noticed between now and when I started my cut basically back in April not even my prep just my cut my physique. Posing has gotten so much fucking better because even just getting the fat trimmed off you can move your body in ways that you couldn't move before even though I was relatively I was like maybe like mid-teens for like fat percentage like I didn't really have any abs. They're kind of there and like I had a little bit of like.

01:13:26.50

christophknoll

E.

01:13:38.70

Paul

Oblique separation a little bit like a little bit of veins if I had the right pump like besides that it wasn't really much definition even with that versus now it's night and day So I can only imagine what it's like trying to learn a pose when you're a very large guy going to a skinny Guy. You know it's all of a sudden like like right Now. All of a sudden I can vacuum to like my fucking spine where I couldn't do that before no matter how hard I tried because there's less fat. There's more of a vacuum. Um and I could be sitting here and like my like I could flex my abs like without even trying because I have less fat there. That's.

01:14:01.94

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:14:17.16

Paul

Stopping my abs from flexing like it's it's It's just a weird thing to like to experience and a lot of that like I said just comes down from just learning how to pose better as my physique is app improving and losing fat I just was posing better and therefore I can manipulate my body Better. So My vacuum is now tight like no matter whenever I do it and. My waist is narrower than ever and I can show that through posing and it just gets better because of that you know it's It's your bodies develops based off the environment you put it in. So If you're constantly Posing. You're constantly trying to have a tiny waste and wide shoulders stuff your body will naturally go in that direction and that's kind of what I'm Experiencing. It's crazy.

01:14:55.16

christophknoll

That's like I have my training partner that I've talked about before Jurgen and he doesn't really have aspirations for bodybuilding but he's got a phenomenal physique. So like I try and push him in that direction but just on a muscle building so like a hypertrophy like.

01:14:58.60

Paul

No.

01:15:05.70

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:15:12.52

christophknoll

Mindset I have him do like. For example, if we just do like if we do like a incclined dumb dumbbell press I have him do some kind of a chess pose just because I mean I think who is the big one. Um, well I mean arnold always talks about it after doing a. Ah, some kind of movement. You do the the pose for it because that actually teaches and trains your muscles to be in that pose and then you start to not have to puff your chest anymore because your chest is just naturally puffing out because you're training your muscles to be in that Position. So That's why like when I'm training with them I'll be like hey.

01:15:43.79

Paul

Yeah.

01:15:48.66

christophknoll

We just did that go ahead and even if it's just like pushing your arms together like like that and just popping it a little bit more that still does something and so yep.

01:15:54.58

Paul

Yeah, you build the my muscle connection and all of that. Yeah, it builds up and that's why it sucks to see guys who just don't like the same thing with posing. It's like training you can training for the most part is a skill you can learn and it just takes time posing a lot of the time. Either makes sense or it doesn't which we've talked about but it's like there are guys who just will never fucking. Get it like it just doesn't Compute. It's like people who are bad at a subject in school. It just doesn't compute no matter how hard you drill it. It just doesn't connect and you see that at like.

01:16:25.41

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:16:30.00

Paul

Men's suze competitions are really just any competition in bodybuilding in general because like these guys will will step on stage and their phsiques or their poses. Not even close to you know what? a pose should be. You know what? I mean So it's just like it's interesting to see that because it's like that's why I I felt the kind of insulting that. Got placed the way I did against the guys who didn't have good poses at all because they weren't even close to the proper pose. But like I said they were leaner. It is what it is but it's just I don't know the posing I think if you can get that downpack that's going to only build and build and build and just get better overtime.

01:16:56.78

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:17:06.92

Paul

For the rest of your physique in general. So I think it's a good thing to have to use for the future. It's exciting stuff in my opinion.

01:17:13.33

christophknoll

Yeah, no, it's it's like such a good feeling to lock in a pose for the first time ever like it's it just when something just clicks. You know like I'm I keep working on the that that three quarter turn

01:17:19.90

Paul

No.

01:17:31.49

christophknoll

Bicep back pose the um, um what the arnold statue is you know the first time I did it was when I went when I went to the statue like that was the first time I'd ever tried it and so I keep trying to get it an event like especially I'm going to have some help with you in a couple weeks when you're up top here but like.

01:17:34.65

Paul

Um, oh yeah.

01:17:39.27

Paul

Yeah.

01:17:47.68

christophknoll

When that clicks it's going to feel so goddamn good.

01:17:49.42

Paul

Yeah, yeah, like the men'sique poses clicked for me and it just to me was like how can you not do this. You know it's just one of those things and that that particular pose clicked for arnold. There's just the pose he like to do but that is a very difficult pose to get down.

01:18:07.80

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:18:08.76

Paul

There's a lot going on and the way you're manipulating your body is way different than most guys think it is like you're pointing if you're doing it where your right elbow is lower. You're pointing your elbow way more downward than you think you are like guys will do it and they'll have their legs a wrong way. First of all.

01:18:20.48

christophknoll

E.

01:18:27.35

Paul

Have their their legs the wrong way and then when they do it. They'll just do like kind of like a like a front or back you know rear double and then they're done but it's like no, you got to like fucking fold in half you're like your up would needs to be almost pointing to the fucking ground. Yeah yeah, you're twisting all that shit.

01:18:37.38

christophknoll

And then and then your lower lats is what's twisting to like that's.

01:18:46.56

Paul

And then you're flexing your legs and and oh dude, there's just so much going on that guys don't realize and it's just it's wild. But it's It's a very very difficult pose to do most poses to me most poses out. There aren't that difficult for the most part I think a side chest is very difficult personally.

01:18:51.75

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:19:05.15

Paul

I Think a good quarter turn is very hard. Um I think ah um, a good absent Thighs is very hard to get because for absent thighs. You need to be lean. First of all to be able to do it. Um, and it's also very hard to learn how to do it properly? um.

01:19:17.71

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:19:21.89

Paul

And besides that it's just the arnold that arnold pose I think everything else you can kind of like obviously all of it does take learning. But I think as far as like what really takes a lot of effort are those poses. It's like saying squats versus like dumbbell curls like demo curls for a lot of people will just make sense and you can learn it. But. Like squats is something that's like fucking hard to learn like that shit takes a while to really develop as a skill and that's what those posters are like to me.

01:19:44.68

christophknoll

Um, and have and having the like the mobility like hip flexibility and stuff like that like you don't need that in other poses but like yeah, not but I mean move exercises. We switched over. But I mean.

01:19:53.22

Paul

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:19:59.89

christophknoll

That's what I mean like having that kind of flexibility like when I was with the coach with Alex at the time we like into every single day's like log was a half hour of yoga slash.

01:20:13.70

Paul

10

01:20:15.66

christophknoll

Some kind of stretching movement to give myself that flexibility I've been slacking on it recently. But um, you know I've got reasons to get back into it now. But there's a lot that goes into it and like it frustrates me how little mobility I have when I think I have a lot more.

01:20:19.85

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:20:33.92

Paul

I.

01:20:35.60

christophknoll

And if you want to see like if like a good one like Tom Platz had some of the craziest leg and hip mobility out of any body buildder I bet like he was doing full splits at his size at his size full splits absurd.

01:20:47.54

Paul

Um, yeah, he's he's genetic, outlier though for sure though, let's be honest, like he is yeah.

01:20:53.17

christophknoll

No I know but it's you know what I agree and everybody at the top of the top is a genetic outlier. That's just who they are and you can still take parts of what they do and try and emulate it and so like the flexibility that he had like I mean even just hack squatting the way he hack squatted.

01:20:58.21

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:21:03.64

Paul

Oh yeah.

01:21:11.41

christophknoll

If you've ever seen that like how deep he goes into that hack squat and how low his feet are on the platform like you can do a deep hack squat when your feet are up top and your shit you like you doing your glute focus but having your ankles off the platform because you're that deep and then going to the full depth that you like.

01:21:15.76

Paul

Yeah, he.

01:21:29.15

christophknoll

You need to have absurd knee and hip flexibility just to be able to even go down that low. Let alone push back because that's all quads then.

01:21:33.31

Paul

Yeah I mean for Tom Platt specifically he had like you're saying insane flexibility but it's also his joints for like next fucking level titanium like he just had phenomenal joints like all the list he was doing were like unassisted with.

01:21:44.69

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:21:51.78

Paul

Like no fucking like leg sleeves or knee sleeves or really even a belt half the fucking time and yet he was still doing to that depth. Um, so he was very blessed to have something like that where like my elbows I'm very blessed to have the elbows that I have because no matter what I bent my elbows never hurt but some guy's bench. Half the way I do and keep the same form and depth in everything but their elbows just kill them. So it just it ends up hindering the overall movement for them. So just everybody's the build different and Tom Platt's like that's why he's known as like the king of legs is because a big reason of that is because of his joint health is just for some reason his joints could just fucking ticket.

01:22:27.53

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:22:29.17

Paul

Could like press a fucking tank and his knees wereined you know meno just it was just crazy like that's what's so crazy about Tom Platts but um I could never I want to do like Dave but Tom Plat just to try it. But it'd be fucking I'd kill myself after I'd be like this is terrible.

01:22:41.73

christophknoll

Like literally on the point of death do 5 more do 5 more.

01:22:46.75

Paul

Yeah, you I was watching a video of him talking about it yesterday and I forget how fucking crazy he is sometimes he's like he talks about how he want to like borderline blackout during squats and like he'd feel good for the next week because he realized he survived his squats I'm like dude that's not okay like.

01:22:56.40

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:23:06.74

Paul

Should not be like just about dying your set or dying from your set. You know I mean like that's not okay, but um, he was going to say um I was going to add something else to that but he also did squats like Barbell squats only like once a month people think that he did it a lot more and he said that.

01:23:10.37

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:23:23.70

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:23:26.67

Paul

He actually like he didn't actually like doing squats. He just knew how to hit them really hard so when he would do them. He would do them properly and was crazy at them but he didn't truly like doing them so he only did them about once a month when he would actually have to do them? Um, but besides that he wasn't doing barbell squats. He's doing hack squats and leg extinctions and shit like that.

01:23:39.34

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:23:46.61

Paul

Um, which is my person belief I think machines work best for me for legs than like free weight does. But that's just my opinion. But yeah, it's he's wild.

01:23:55.15

christophknoll

Mind's a mix mine. Mine's definitely a mix because like I can hit like clawed folk like if I want my outside quad my inside Quad like doing leg extensions I can I can hit that better than anything. But if I want a true full. Like burnout like nothing's going to beat my my barbell stuff that I do like between my squats and my lunges like if I want a true leg burnout. It's those that no no machine's going to have me on the same level.

01:24:22.38

Paul

I think so like I think it depends on the day like I Larums. For instance, my biceps agree so much more with like free weights and also cables where my triceps like only agree with cables. Basically. And then like my shoulders is very freeweight focused with like some cables in there. My back day is a good mix. My chest day is mostly mostly machinery um and then my leg day is mostly some sort of machinery with some freeway in there. Um.

01:24:56.79

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:24:58.14

Paul

But like my back day. My back day is the the most versatileic because I could really do cables I could do machinery and I can do freeweight it all just depends on what like right now I'm doing a lot more machinery and cables than anything because I just don't have the energy for freeway right now. Um, it just my energys just not there. But. Besides that Yeah,, that's that's part out right for most of the time my back is the one that changes the most. Um, but yeah legs is hack squat I think is the go to I think it should be your go to.

01:25:26.32

christophknoll

Yeah I hex out once a week because I do two leg days so I do ideally my first run of the week is my heavy like I go balls to the wall with weight and then my second one is volume heavy and I'm going more for you know.

01:25:31.39

Paul

Yeah, right.

01:25:43.85

christophknoll

Doing as many reps as possible for whatever I'm doing So I'll hack squat in the the rep heavy one just because I get a far better feeling repping a ton on a hacksquat than doing heavy and less reps on a hack squat? Um, so I'll do it a ton there. Um.

01:25:55.42

Paul

Yeah, you don't do like a quad day and a hem and glute day see if I had two leg days what I would do is like four five quad movements with a glute movement.

01:26:04.70

christophknoll

Nope, It's everything both times.

01:26:14.47

Paul

And then my ham day would be the same like 4 or 5 hand movement and then a glute movement. That's what I would do so like I have like a quad day a ham day and like a little bit of glutes on each because I don't really need to build my glutes. Um, that's where I pin and I just my glues just grow without even trying so I don't really need to work on those but ah.

01:26:16.99

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:26:29.63

christophknoll

Well just for the amount that I do for my muscle recovery. Not even for lifting but just keeping like my sport muscles alive like between my cold plunge and my other ice things that I do like I just have ridiculous muscle muscle recovery.

01:26:31.54

Paul

Yeah I think that would be good.

01:26:48.90

christophknoll

So by the time I get to my second leg day or because I work out every muscle group twice a week so whenever I get to anything the second time I feel ready and I can do a full workout like I texted I went into my my second chest back day was it today Saturday um.

01:26:52.40

Paul

It is.

01:27:07.54

christophknoll

On Thursday I went into my second chess back day and I texted I texted you know my my text of May and I was like hey I'm going in. Um and I'm going to go I'm going to go light and go volume heavy and she was like oh have fun, whatever and when I left she was like oh howd it go and I was like I lied.

01:27:08.84

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:27:26.57

Paul

Yeah.

01:27:26.98

christophknoll

Did heavy just because like I when I'm when I'm going like I just can't like I'm going to failure So I'm going to you know push my body through and through and there's sometimes there's just no stopping it.

01:27:32.68

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:27:39.68

Paul

Yeah, sometimes you just end up going heavy. It's like the fuck I don't mean to do that. That's that's what's so hard for me to write now.

01:27:43.47

christophknoll

Is it was that it's That's why that's why Deadlifts are tough for me because I cannot mentally wrap around doing a light deadlift for a ton I have to put my body through the ringer for deadlifts.

01:27:54.21

Paul

All I can all dude do a like what are your deadlift reps typically.

01:28:03.24

christophknoll

Ah, so with the the current plan right now. Um, it's failure at 10 failure at 6 failure at 4 and that's at the end of the workout.

01:28:11.46

Paul

Grow to go to failure on 20 you're going to hate your life like deadlifting feels like cardio when you're at like 20 reps it sucks. But then your back is like fucking fried. Um, when I do dead Liftfts I would do.

01:28:23.15

christophknoll

Well I get.

01:28:27.49

Paul

Um, like 14 for a warm up and then I do like a 14 rep working set then I do like 12108 from there till failure. Of course.

01:28:32.34

christophknoll

Yeah, well my if I'm going volume heavy I can get a way better, not just pump but connection doing rack pulls instead like if I'm going for volume heavy just because I can completely isolate the back at that point. Obviously it's not.

01:28:42.75

Paul

New.

01:28:52.43

christophknoll

I feel I figure you're like rack pulls are like a semi compoundund movement if that's a thing just because you're eliminating the legs from it. Um, but but that's what I mean like I would say it's like a semi like as it's in between whereas Deadlifts is like full compound.

01:28:57.44

Paul

Right? Yeah I want to call them an isolate movement but they're compound for your last specifically. Yeah.

01:29:07.90

Paul

Yeah, it's like your whole body has dead loss. Basically.

01:29:09.92

christophknoll

Um, yeah, so yeah I I do my my heavies and I can't really tell me tell myself? no, but this upcoming week not because today's Saturday so my chess back day resets on Monday I actually have to up the weight because obviously it's.

01:29:24.31

Paul

You get.

01:29:28.95

christophknoll

I'm going for failure at 106 and 4 and I I started failing at 106 and 4 but now about like a month in two months in I'm now going like it's like 1410 and the last one I got 7 and so. What I should be failing at forward. So I'm going to up the wait next this upcoming week and then see where we go obviously I don't do onerepmax anymore. But I'm really curious to see what my run one rep max is for deadlifts at this point.

01:29:48.97

Paul

Um.

01:29:56.22

Paul

Yeah, yeah. I buy would not be heavy at all I fucking have their way urgey, but ah there you could do a deadlips right now and just takes too much out of me. Um I have a lot more isolate back movements right now? Um, but yeah, that's what's hard for me right now is that typically I'm so used to going to like 8 failure. And like my reps being like just over ten where right now for larger muscle groups. It's 10 to 15 reps no matter what and then accessory smaller movement muscle groups is like ah 10 to 20 reps. So it's like fit warm up at like 15 and then it's like 141210 versus like 12108 and then like smaller muscle groups is like 2016 like 141210 like that's kind of what I end up doing.

01:30:37.54

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:30:54.10

Paul

And it it sucks. It's so backwards for me to do like that many reps. But I mean it's I'm also like I said I'm also just very low energy right now. So I'm not trying to do anything super heavy. So anything super compound focused I think like some of the biggest compound movements I'll do is like.

01:30:54.39

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:31:14.00

Paul

Straight like deadlifts or like ah flat bench Dumb Bell press um I think that's like the biggest ones I can think of back I guess pullovers maybe like that is a machine though. So it's not even like that big of a compound movement. Um. Yeah that's pretty much it for but for back there's not much big ka women's I'm just fucking toast and just ah my my cars before my career my before my workout every day right now is 2 rice cakes like I found nothing in my system. It's six ounces chicken 2 rice cakes and a tablespoon of Almond Butter that's all I have so it's like.

01:31:39.52

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:31:51.78

Paul

Ah, go into it already depleted basically already hungry by the time I get to the gym.

01:31:54.91

christophknoll

See I'm always looking for random new things to do either pre gym post gym just anything to increase performance and I go to meet I go to meetings with the with an older guy who runs all the time and I don't run like I I can run if I need to for my different like.

01:32:04.81

Paul

Um, yeah, yeah.

01:32:13.79

christophknoll

Obviously playing like softball or something like that I I need to run but I don't train running. Um I do my I I have to get in I not that I have to I'm going to slowly start getting into it just based on what's going on in my personal life. But um I I do obviously like my incline.

01:32:14.39

Paul

Yeah I can never.

01:32:33.35

christophknoll

Walking for my cardio at the end of a lift. Um, but what I talked with this dude and he's a dude that I revere like I look up to this man and he goes I do 2 bananas before any workout and I was like I you know what? I I you never know I'll give it a try and.

01:32:40.65

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:32:52.77

christophknoll

The only thing I could think of is the potassium and anti cramping and like because that's solely what bananas like that's like the only reason you eat a banana before a workout is because you don't want to cramp and I don't cramp a lot anyways. Um, like I hit abs every day so buy like today like.

01:33:03.14

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:33:11.43

christophknoll

Thursday Friday Saturday my at like I hate doing abs at this point. Um, so I do crap up a bit there so I was like oh whatever we'll give it a try and 100% placebo effect but I lifted more weight than I ever did after eating 2 bananas before my workout. But.

01:33:26.61

Paul

Um, yeah, yeah, that's totally just because you're thinking about it.

01:33:30.44

christophknoll

It's yeah, it's purely place. Placebo so I'm gonna keep doing it for a little bit. But yeah, it's I always love looking for these random things and there's no real gain to it like I have like I'm locked in with my meals beforehand like I get a ton of like i'm. Amped up in the gym I'm not I mean obviously your diet makes it so that you can't really do this but like I have so much energy when I hit the gym just because my like I'm eating damn near a thousand calories prior to my lift. So I just have so much in my system ready to go. Um, so i'm.

01:33:50.73

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:34:03.17

Paul

So.

01:34:06.72

christophknoll

I'm amped up every single time I go in there.

01:34:08.18

Paul

Yeah I mean I can't stand it when people are like oh I train like lifting fasted I'm like then you're not doing anything like you're not actually getting anything from your workout. You're wasting your fucking time right.

01:34:14.88

christophknoll

Yeah I can under so I can understand fasted cardio but I not not lifting.

01:34:24.22

Paul

Correct Facet Cardio has a place I do fasted cardio every day and that's for shedding fat. Um, which isn't released how you should treat cardio unless you're doing something like I am for a show where you actually want to burn the calories for the for the weight wise but um.

01:34:35.66

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:34:40.21

Paul

When Normally what you would do is you would ah just do it for your overall cardiovascular health. Um, but yeah, it's like training weightlifting fast. It just doesn't make any fucking sense. It's so backwards you know, um, it just it's it don't make sense. So. I Always tell people like if you're going to wait train at all like at least um at least like have like you said a couple bananas for the potassium. Um or just put something in your system because people will be like oh but I have I have ah.

01:35:17.63

Paul

Pre-work out as well and I'm like dude you're having pure out and you're not eating anything like that's so bad.

01:35:22.50

christophknoll

Um, Roe I'm I'm fasted lifting and dry scooping my pre-workout.

01:35:26.84

Paul

Oh my I throw up dude I Just throw up I just I project al puke directly onto them like that's what I think of you.

01:35:34.33

christophknoll

Um, you see the but you see the video the dude who's deadlifting and like 3 quarterr of the way up just spews over the mirror.

01:35:40.98

Paul

All happens all the time it happens all the time people will put fucking pee on the dead deadlift platforms Now it's fucking gross. But um, yeah I'll go to Pr guys but my guts are on the floor. My intestines coming out my mouth.

01:35:48.80

christophknoll

New Marks New mos.

01:35:58.57

Paul

Um, but yeah, it's fucking whack. It's just like dude you just especially if your purecut has niestid in it and you end up having a niacin flush like oh dude that shit sucks so bad. Um, my multivitamin has ni in it and I have to have my multivitamin with food Otherwise I'll get a niin flush and.

01:36:16.98

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:36:17.55

Paul

The worst fucking feeling in the world. So it's just it's so dumb. It's so bad for you to take a preric out on an empty stomach. It's not good. Um always have something in your stomach If you're if you're gonna be training have a protein in a carb at least ideally fat too. But um, don't go fasted that you're just wasting your time.

01:36:35.68

christophknoll

Well, that's actually an interesting point too like I do a I mean we've talked about Intraworkouts before and I'm obviously not doing a product version I'm doing like gatorade with it which kind of does the same thing I I have to deal with the sugar levels. But um.

01:36:47.30

Paul

Yeah.

01:36:53.37

christophknoll

My diet is so like I make sure there's not a ton of sugar I realize now after you know when I sent you the diet a while back and we both noticed a ton of sugar it was in miss input I'm not consuming that much at all. Um, but. Did the the people in my life here know that I do not touch anything that has added sugars like maybe once on like my Saturdays when I'm doing my my ah my 5 guys re feed. But for the most part if there's added sugars in it I'm just not touching it and so when I I was working out with with ah.

01:37:25.78

Paul

Yeah.

01:37:30.35

christophknoll

But someone the other day and she saw me take like my gatorade out and she goes you know what's in that and I was like yeah I know and I do it for the carbs and we'd talk about having that energy in the gym and having super fast digesting carbs.

01:37:39.69

Paul

Yeah.

01:37:46.44

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:37:48.90

christophknoll

That keeps me going through like the rest of the workout and that's like the products that people should really be looking into like having something to give you so sustainability throughout your lift like obviously you don't have to lift as long as I do because I'm now I'm back into my hour hour range for training. Um, and.

01:38:04.21

Paul

E.

01:38:06.97

christophknoll

Not everybody has to do that. But even for a 45 minute workout at the 20 minute Mark takes some kind of intro to make sure you can give your best kind of workout for the whole thing.

01:38:17.70

Paul

See when I have an intra on purpose like if I have like like it's part of my plan I drink it throughout my workout I have a scoop of my intra and drink it as I'm lifting um power lifters will do a lot of gummies.

01:38:26.49

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:38:32.76

Paul

Ah, typically but yeah gatorade has a place so even like gateatorade zero like after doing more research and and reading more into it. Um, especially when I'm like taking like clean that just sucks up all your electro lights like gatatory zero really truly does make make me feel so much better with the electric lights that are in it So like it really does have a place.

01:38:49.38

christophknoll

Um.

01:38:52.13

Paul

If you are in the niche minority of like actually fighting use with it. Um, because typically it's not.. It's not something I would recommend for the most part unless you're like me where you're super fucking depleted and the electrolytes really truly don't do make a difference. Otherwise there's really no Point. Um. But yeah, that has a place too and it's just gatorade just gotten a bad rap where it's like it's just a flavored sugar drink and it's like it's really not the deck stress really is really good for you when you're training but introworkouts are more designed for it. Um, the one I have right now is Ebo Jen I believe.

01:39:16.27

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:39:30.24

Paul

Um, my coach gave it to me because he's sponsored by Evo Jen um but like that one's pretty good intro workouts like I was telling you they like there are more money upfront there like thirty bucks or some people you get like 30 servings out of it. So it's like it typically ends up being about the same or cheaper per serving. Then like getting a gatorade bottle like a medium size gatorade bottle and doing it that way. Um, unless you went the route of like powdered gatorade then that's a different story because powdered gatorade is extremely cheap. Um, but I don't know exactly the content differences between powdered gatorade and like pre-bottled the Gatorade. So.

01:39:52.37

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:39:58.42

christophknoll

I.

01:40:08.17

Paul

I couldn't really attest to that.

01:40:10.67

christophknoll

Yeah I don't ever touch powdered stuff just because I'm so used to denying it in the past because of how much added sugar is and any kind of powder. It's like the ah 2 bears 1 cave bit where. Butryscher and and they're talking about the kool-aid. Ah.

01:40:24.39

Paul

Yeah, like a halfgown or fruit punch. Yeah, the cool. Yeah, he's like what's funny about that too is he's like you know that he's ah like you know that he drinks a lot of gatorade because he called it red and not fruit punch. He said.

01:40:30.10

christophknoll

I.

01:40:36.40

christophknoll

Um, yeah, yeah.

01:40:40.22

Paul

Ah, what flavors and he goes red I'm like you drink a lot of koolaid done you call out to by the color. Um, but yeah, no, that's that was that was cool and he's low water done. It's not bad I'm like the more I learn about burt I'm like how the fuck is this guy alive like you should be dead.

01:40:42.40

christophknoll

And.

01:40:47.65

christophknoll

Ah.

01:40:57.35

christophknoll

Um, yep.

01:40:57.90

Paul

You should be dead by now. Um, but anyways, yeah, it's it's hard to so the video I was telling you about before we started recording was this guy was talking about how it's okay to be a for-profit company like that's totally fine and like there's just been this like. Full like mentality for some reason that like if you're a for profit in any way for whatever it is. You're most likely an evil corporation or evil companies like that's not the truth. But if you are for-profi it's more than fair to ask questions about the product you're supplying. Ah, if it's nonprofit or like donations or something like that like the red cross like I wouldn't really question what kind of service. The red cross gives because it's all donations. It's all There's no profit like nobody's making anything off. It's all volunteer stuff like that. So like 1 of the things he was mentioning was how everybody questions big pharma right? He's like everybody's talking about. Whether or not this works whether or not like it's okay to consume stuff like that he said but then when you're talking about natural supplement industry that makes billions of dollars a year and they're all for profit. Nobody's talking about it. Nobody's asking questions. Everybody just like oh this is just how it is you know it's just this is just what you take this is just what you drink like nobody asks the questions of what's actually in the supplements. Um and nobody actually questions whether or not these supplements are genuinely what they say they are you know so like that was an interesting point because like to what you were saying earlier like there are good and bad multivitamin brands. Don't get me wrong like.

01:42:22.13

christophknoll

Yep.

01:42:31.30

Paul

Not every multivitamin is perfect, but there are a lot of brands that really do supply like really efficacious doses of shit. Um, animal pack is one of the best ones you can buy out there in my personal opinion. Um, right now I'm taking a relatively cheap one just to get by financially and that's from Nutricos Nutricost is a good brand. I've had their stuff before and it's worked.

01:42:50.42

christophknoll

Yeah I do I do I think it's like I can actually see it. It's ah aquate like the the just yeah and I get I I get up by totally fine with it like I don't have any problems with it.

01:42:56.60

Paul

Oh the walmart brain I think it's Walmart. yeah yeah yeah I think I mean when it.

01:43:08.27

christophknoll

and I've and I've also been I've been taking it long enough that there's no way it's placebo effect and you are like placebo effect only only really lasts at most like a month or 2 and when you've been taking something for years. It's like you you know your past that point.

01:43:12.67

Paul

Yeah, yeah. My yeah.

01:43:24.24

Paul

Yeah, the other thing you got to be careful too is that like a lot of multivitamins. For instance, they'll put a lot of fillers in it to make it seem like you're taking more than you are um and as long as you're getting like a good amount of each vitamin. That's really all that matters like.

01:43:33.37

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:43:39.24

Paul

Um I calculated my macros and Micros recently in chronoometer online which you guys should check out if you want to calculate your macros and microros pretty easily chronoometer is pretty sweete. It's free. Um, it's not the best platform. But for free. It's pretty decent. Um and they have all the brands of stuff so I put in then I take a nutraco multivitamin. And looking at my micros. They're all pretty much handled pretty much every micro is handled besides fiber like that's pretty much it. Um, so my good. That's really all I need. It's just like good enough. You know I just need everything at least covered because if you're. You're taking more than you need. You're just going to end up peeing it out anyway. So there's no really point of taking like a multivitamin that has a shit ton of everything because you just end up peeing it all out so might as well just take whatever is enough to be efficacious.

01:44:18.49

christophknoll

I take I take twenty grams of creatine bro you're peeing it all out. Yeah.

01:44:24.70

Paul

Yeah, you're peeing out fifteen grams of that like there's no point in that same with the overload I can't stand that you got to doreeching overload for five days know the fuck. You don't like you already get enough creatine if you eat red meat for the most part like if you eat a couple meals of red meat a day you get a lot of creatine from that.

01:44:36.67

christophknoll

Um, if.

01:44:44.11

Paul

Plus you supplementment in five grams that's plenty you're good you don't need to do a 10 grand fucking or 10 gram overload for five days that's just the supplement company trying to get more money out of you and on top of that that's another one creatine is fucking creatine I don't care where you get it from. If it's creating monohydrate it's creating monohydrate I'm not going to pay $30 for 30 servings from this name brand where I could pay $20 for a hundred servings from like book supplements or something you know what I mean like it's all the same shit. Um, when it comes to like amino acids. It's the fucking same shit see with Bca as.

01:45:00.72

christophknoll

Um, yup.

01:45:11.60

christophknoll

Yep.

01:45:17.60

Paul

The only difference between all the Bcas is one flavor and sometimes the ratios if you get like a 2 1 1 ratio like you're only really getting maybe five grams of Bc a's versus like a 6 1 1 ratio or something like that or a 6 2 2 ratio or whatever it is um but as long as you're getting like ten grams of Bca a's and like five grams of glutamine. You're good when it comes to Bcas um, so it's just like all these all these people are like oh it's $40 for 20 services because these bca is your next level. It's like dude there the same fucking Bca a's as the other guy who charges half the price The only difference is the flavor really. Um, so like my my bcas I take right now which I can't take anymore because it's fucking I think there's probably artificial flavors in there is ah yeah is a vitamin shop vitamin shop. Um, they're like body tech, whatever brand it's like there. Um.

01:45:51.27

christophknoll

Yep.

01:45:56.56

christophknoll

And yeah I was going to say unnatural.

01:46:09.91

Paul

Bc a's it was on sale for it's 40 servings you only get 5 grands of Bca a's or something so it wasn't enough but it was like onset for like fifteen bucks so I was like fuck it I'll grab that and I get 20 servings out of it I'm like that's so cheap for Bca a's like that's like less than a dollar serving that's super cheap. Um.

01:46:25.81

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:46:28.17

Paul

That's kind of where I'm at with a lot of supplements is like as long as it's the trusted brand I'm go go as cheap as I possibly can because they're all the same fucking shit. But ah like there's just one company who advertised on Instagram I'm not sure if you're seeing it where it's like they send you like you put in like it's got of like the steal thing where you like you pay shipping. But they send you a whole tub of Bca's I'm like I'm not trusting that shit. Yeah I do not trust that I'm like if it's like a certain if it's like a sample of like 5 servings or something sure but like they say it's a full tub of 30 servings I'm like there's no way this is good.

01:46:47.35

christophknoll

Yeah I haven't seen that.

01:47:02.56

christophknoll

It's they should be just a full tub of fentanyl and just kill you.

01:47:06.99

Paul

Dude, that's been that's big. Did you see that thing that went around it all that's been happening to construction workers in Massachusetts where people would go up and offer construction workers water like water bottles and they'll fucking lace it with fentanyl. Apparently that's happened a few times now.

01:47:10.59

christophknoll

I didn't see that. No. Jesus and bring your own print your own stuff. Never never trust other people.

01:47:21.29

Paul

Um, like what the fuck is wrong with people. Yeah, exactly got to be careful of that Um, bring your water bring your own food. But um, yeah I started packing My wife's food now like I don't want you to keep eaten now.

01:47:34.11

christophknoll

No I I I take I take but I blindly take stuff in the gym. Someone says you want this I say yes, ah well, the big dude sweated.

01:47:42.77

Paul

If it's a puddle on the floor I'll drink it if it's wet.

01:47:51.10

christophknoll

The big dude sweated out which means say he's got gains I got to do it.

01:47:55.49

Paul

I'm like second hand anabolic dude like I'm I'm second hand taking steroids because I'm drinking his sweat off the ground.

01:48:02.54

christophknoll

Ah, hey you you go to a new coach are you on anything. Well yes, and no I'm pinning I'm pinning Paul's sweat ah. ah

01:48:09.20

Paul

Um, I'm on John's sweat is was what I'm on right now. Whatever he's taking is yeah he just he rings it out from a towel and I just and I get infections every time but I mean it's totally worth the gains.

01:48:25.18

christophknoll

You ever have raby gains before ah well I ever see blue never see Blue Mountain state.

01:48:26.15

Paul

Ah, dude, that's so fucking Gross you ever got why? Why was my dick it. Oh I've seen clips of it. But um I was going to say why? why is my dick so itchy Now What the hell what's going on does she have an shed.

01:48:41.54

christophknoll

Bloomma in State this ah there, there's a guy who goes and he tries to ah he goes into his captain's bedroom thinking. He's taking his captain steroids. He goes out to the race that they're going to do.

01:48:43.97

Paul

Yeah.

01:48:53.18

christophknoll

He's just profusely steaming from the mouth like a Rabbi dog and the the guys like what did you doing I was like I took your steroids I was like nobody take steroids anymore that was rabies. You just ingested. But.

01:49:05.60

Paul

Dumbass. Yeah, no, it's I don't I wonder if there that is a thing like is there any trace amounts of like shit in your sweat like I wonder what I wonder what that would like like I truly.

01:49:17.65

christophknoll

Don no, ah it's all fault man it's ah it's all salt

01:49:22.73

Paul

I mean yeah, true. But I just wonder like is there even anything like trace amount in you just like like do I like sweat out windsrow a little bit like like I wonder like now that I'm on windsrowl starting today. That's another change actually is we're taking winnie now I'm like I wonder if that sweats out at all. Ah, like that'd be interesting to see like what's what's coming out.

01:49:45.57

christophknoll

Ah, are you salting? Are you salting your foods. Well Paul's sweat has sweat has salt in it. So um, I'm just dabbling down on my my chicken. Ah.

01:49:55.20

Paul

Ah god it's like your girl comes home from the gym. It's like way I need some seasoning you just like put it under her. You're like stand there for a second and just dripping but like dude I could I could fucking fill a bowl of fucking empty bowl with my sweat like.

01:50:01.46

christophknoll

No no. Ah.

01:50:10.91

Paul

With the with the no Ac and trend and everything I'm just like like I have to blow it off my face.

01:50:13.66

christophknoll

I'm I'm telling you. It's bad at Empire like when you come up this next or in a couple weeks. It's bad like I love it I I Love how much I sweat like I take a like actually enjoy it because like we've talked about this but like I get like the old school vibe from it.

01:50:19.71

Paul

Oh yeah, you'll so you'll see me so I for sure.

01:50:29.86

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:50:31.45

christophknoll

But it is brutal like I genuinely if I don't like sometimes like nowadays I just leave the gym without wearing a shirt like I just you're not supposed to be working out without a shirt but when I'm leaving the gym. It doesn't matter so a lot of times I do that. But before that I was bringing a like a second or even a.

01:50:40.20

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:50:51.30

christophknoll

Third shirt just because I was sweating so much in the gym and I talked with another one. My friends who who lifts there and he bring he wears a shirt for when he lifts then he'll go into the locker room dry off put on another shirt for cardio then when he's leaving. He's got another shirt to go with like.

01:50:53.81

Paul

Me.

01:51:09.30

Paul

Oh I Just do shirt list for cardio grained I can actually do that but you don' yeah, you don't get that option. Yeah I mean at that rate I would just honestly keep the same short on because it's already sweaty as it is I don't want to have to keep doing more laundry. Um, my coach was like when I started doing fasted cardio.

01:51:11.21

christophknoll

But we can't I was going to say we can't do that.

01:51:26.40

Paul

We put that back in there. He said like when we went up to like 30 minutes and he's like because like that's kind of the point like I could probably do 20 minutes of like 15 inclined three mile an hour walking without really breaking much of a sweat like I'm starting to get hot. But I'm not really sweating much but like 30 minutes is where like I'm really sweating at that point. Um and he was like.

01:51:43.85

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:51:46.60

Paul

He said his recommendation for cardio is fasted and then before meal six so be like I I instead of doing cardio at the gym I'd come home and eat take my fiber supplement halfway between meal five and six and then like right after cardio come back and eat for meal six so he said the only problem with doing it that way is is just you have more.

01:52:02.64

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:52:05.74

Paul

More laundry and I'm like both of you do assume I'm not wearing the same outfit the whole day like he's like you have to do blindry after each cardio session I'm like I work from home I'm just going to sit here in my own stank dude like I don't I need to go to an office and smell good. So I just when I sweat in the morning I'll just kind of wipe it off and.

01:52:14.53

christophknoll

Ah.

01:52:18.33

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:52:25.41

Paul

Work from home and then I'll train and then when I come home after doing cardio after training. That's when I shower So really only do like.

01:52:30.41

christophknoll

Your wife but your wife comes home and just passes out from the Cloud of stank that's in the apartment.

01:52:39.60

Paul

Oh duge I smell so bad most the time just because I sweat it's fucking merrily especially coming home from the gym like today I'm gonna re because I'm going to the gym without the ac I go 3 times a week to that to this gym and I just come home just drenched and my car smells too because I get to my seats. Um.

01:52:47.97

christophknoll

Um, yeah, yeah.

01:52:54.87

Paul

A lot of time I'll drive home without a shirt on because I'm just so sweaty. There's no point of putting on my drench shirt already or as it is so I just come home and put end up getting sweat my seat. So um, my car ends up smelling from it and there's nothing really for that I can do at home I could take a shower after training. But. And my car. There's nothing really I can do I mean I could put down a towel but then the towel would reak and I had to do more laundry that way. Um, so yeah, it is what it does you look like Dr evil like petting his like skin this cat have you ever seen aus powers. Yep.

01:53:19.81

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:53:27.45

christophknoll

Hold on. Let me ah mis up powers.

01:53:31.23

Paul

My dog's not in here. They're outside dog to evil. Um, when I come out of here. They're probably gonna bark at me.

01:53:38.11

christophknoll

Well if anything I was gonna say if anything you gotta do it with the ball with with the not much hair on top of your head. The the the doctor evil. Oh if you have to shave for the for the ah for the cop you have to buy the full gray suit.

01:53:44.80

Paul

Ah, yeah, just my head. Yeah I just show up and that's like yeah.

01:53:55.56

christophknoll

And caused by doctor Evil Ah yeah.

01:53:58.10

Paul

Oh gosh, No way I got to get the fake scar down my face to oh God I'd throw up if I saw myself like that it was like with the pinky. Um.

01:54:08.80

christophknoll

Um, legendary that's too funny.

01:54:13.34

Paul

But yeah, well, we'll see how that goes like I'm going to talk to him more um about facial hair and stuff and see if you proves of like a slight handlebar. Maybe just kind of like extended outwards maybe a little bit not quite like looping but like.

01:54:26.52

christophknoll

Loop so much. It's up of your eyes the judge thinks you're winking at them. But you're just dying from your own handlebar.

01:54:30.71

Paul

Yeah, it's like poking me the eye and I'm like ah like my eyes twitching getting poked. Yeah yeah, my eye is like getting ruined from hair poking in it. Um, yeah, so next weekend.

01:54:42.53

christophknoll

He.

01:54:48.21

Paul

We'll figure out something for the show weekend. We got to figure something out. Um I'll be free that entire Sunday pretty much so we'll figure something out. But next thing you guys hear from us. It'll be peak week and I'll be talking about where I'm at for the show. But yeah, looking at the difference between today's way in and Wednesday's weigh in.

01:54:50.89

christophknoll

Yeah. Yeah,, we'll be fine.

01:55:07.21

Paul

Like my waist looks like it's like two inches smaller like it's like it went from like a little bit of fat to like fucking none like my my underwear is almost like curling like there's nothing for to like attach to you know what? I mean it's like it's just I don't know how to explain it. Um.

01:55:08.68

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:55:23.34

Paul

But like you know, usually when you have like a little bit of fat and I like hangs over a little bit like it's like a little bulge that bulge is gone like it's just straight like so get like flat all the way up my back now which is kind of cool. but um but yeah so we'll see how next week goes but

01:55:34.65

christophknoll

Hell yeah.

01:55:38.49

Paul

Appreciate everybody listening to today's podcast if you made it this far in.

01:55:42.77

christophknoll

Hell yeah, we're almost at 50

01:55:43.68

Paul

Oh yeah, that's right we are. We're getting close to 50 episodes. 52 is a year so we're getting there. We're getting up there. So it's exciting. Alright, we'll see you guys.

01:55:49.64

christophknoll

Yeah, it is all right. Everybody peace.


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