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HGH #45: Breaking Down Paul's Peak Week and IFBB's Classic Physique Weight Caps Part 2



01:02:06.98

Paul

You're just eating clean. So I just want to make sure that we clarify that for those that are listening.

01:02:16.20

Paul

Yes, yeah, yeah, so you you take in just over like a lean bulk would be taken in just over what you're actually burning So you're not so whatever you gain ideally in a lean bulk is muscle. That's really the goal of a lean bulk. But then you have what's called a dirty bulk.

01:02:25.62

christophknoll

Yeah, so.

01:02:29.88

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:02:35.00

Paul

Jay Cutler Lee Priest these guys did where they would take in thousands of calories more than they're burning put on a shit ton of size. But then they have to cut way more down so they're going to gain a lot more size but they have to cut way more for their show. So just want to clarify that for you guys listening.

01:02:46.70

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:02:49.60

Paul

So go ahead? Sorry so you're talking lean bulk and the food you're taking in and all of that and you're lean at two zero seven right now.

01:02:53.63

christophknoll

Yeah, and so that's that's my whole point like I'm lean at two zero seven like not shredded because you know there's tons of or not tons, but there's obviously fat loss I could do if I were to do like a mini cut or something like that. But for the most part I'm lean at two zero seven and i'm. Like I fill out my frame right now which is absurd because add essentially £50 of of just lean muscle on top of that that would be absurd like I I can't even fathom how big I would be like because obviously is.

01:03:26.94

Paul

It would take it also take years to get there too. Yeah.

01:03:31.90

christophknoll

Ah, yeah, yeah, because obviously that's stage weight but it's not like your. It's not your water weight. It's not your you know your fat and everything this is like 58 of muscle and that's that's huge.

01:03:38.41

Paul

Fat And yeah, exactly yeah dense hard muscle. Exactly yeah, that's the thing So There's a quote recently that I that um that I heard it really rings true and people don't really fully Grasp. Um. These weight ranges and these height ranges and stuff like that until they see these guys in person like you don't like I can't express to you enough. How big like even just like the average men's open bodybuilder is like for pro Pro Y. It's not local a pro men's open bodybuilder How big those motherfuckers are like they are fucking massive.

01:04:13.53

christophknoll

Oh yeah.

01:04:15.80

Paul

Like they were when we're at that seminar there was 2 men's open bodybuilders on stage and they fucking dwarf everybody just watching and they're up on stage like it's fucking crazy how big these guys are same with classic like these guys men's physique like pro olympia caliber competitors. No matter what division you're talking about. They're fucking huge like men's physique even too people really discount. Men's physique but trust me look at a pro men's physique guy they're fucking huge like they're big ass dudes like they're bigger than. Like my coach like I said last week my coach was bigger than most of the classic guys at that fucking show. Granted, he's bulking right now. So he's not like super super lean. He's on dice of the gills. But like you could tell he's bigger than most of them like dash is the reality. So. There's a quote that I heard where it says when it comes to bodybu is something like.

01:04:58.14

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:05:05.56

Paul

You have way more fat than you think you do and way less muscle than you think you do so all these guys are like oh two forty nine for six foot 3 or whatever. That's really not too much. It's like dude you have fucking no idea like you're like let's say for instance like you don't say but like let's say. For instance, you were saying that you're like oh that's that's really not that much. It's like dude.

01:05:15.53

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:05:24.54

Paul

You need to put on like another £70 at least including muscle to get to that level. Yeah, so like you have to put on so so much more weight and the other thing too is that people think that you just put on muscle like crazy reaking grimes this this really I will always remember this.

01:05:26.89

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, because it's that's stage white. Yeah yeah.

01:05:42.47

Paul

Stuck with me a couple years ago he posted like a 10 year difference and he gained £80 of muscle over 10 years that's £8 of muscle per year. That's a fucking shit ton like that is you average £8 a year you're putting on. You're fucking huge like that's massive amount of weight so like to be like oh I have to put on.

01:05:55.37

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:06:01.50

Paul

Like let's say like like you if you wanted to compete at that level so six foot four 2 56 you'd realistically probably have to put on like sixty seventy pounds of actual muscle to compete at that level.

01:06:12.10

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:06:15.51

Paul

And we're talking like in end on top of that if we're talking like the upper end of like how much muscle you put on each year likereaking Grimes like eight nine pounds of muscle a year your you wouldn't be able to step on that stage until like 32 33 hypothetically you know what I mean that's also granted, we're also talking like you're at the cap of the weight range. You know what I mean so like yeah.

01:06:27.95

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, well yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:06:35.23

Paul

So like you can still compete like local and get pro and all of that and still not even be close to that weight cap you know so it's not like you have to be that weight cap to like even consider competing. You could still compete along the way and do bulks cuts and all that up until that point well like cbum he's so high up there. To put on a couple more pounds of muscle is actually like going to be relieving like he's definitely in prep now like we're we're about twelve weeks out or something like that from um when yeah, we're like almost exactly twelve weeks out from the Olympia. So he's probably in prep now. Um for the olympia but like once this olympia is done. He's probably going to do. Like a decent book for the first time in a long time because he's been at the weight cap for the longest time. So really each year all he's been doing is just staying relative to like staying pretty lean so that way his prep isn't as harsh and every single year he just gets leaner and leaner in leader for the show because he's able to keep that.

01:07:24.21

christophknoll

So yeah.

01:07:30.12

Paul

Keep better and better conditioning every single year. So that's also something to keep in mind too. But now that he can put on a couple more pounds of size will he probably because it just put him that much further ahead everybody else, but it's going be exciting when everybody else can put on all that size like tenence roughins I will always say as one of the best classic physiques ever. Even at the weight cap they were. They had so like to be like oh Terence can put on seven more pounds of muscle that's fucking crazy like he's going to look like a beast like he's going to be crazy like people I can't even express like how exciting that is to me like that's so sick because I've always been a fan of Terence Raffins and like dude I really truly think that he could dethrone Chris. Given the right opportunity and he just got it. He just got that opportunity. You know so it's exciting shit. It's exciting shit.

01:08:13.64

christophknoll

Yep, whoopsie they measured me ah over six seven I'm going to 86 Paul

01:08:20.50

Paul

284 fucking pounds that is crazy. That's so much fucking weight dudes you're gonna you'd walk on stage in the stage with fucking shake it quiver.

01:08:29.91

christophknoll

Um, I Well so my now like how heavy that is like that's that's men's open at that point like I know I know it's a different.

01:08:38.58

Paul

Well man I mean yeah, you could realistic I mean.

01:08:44.47

christophknoll

I Know it's different like shape to like physique-wise but just on a on purely weight basis like that's pretty much open. Yeah.

01:08:45.69

Paul

Yeah, he yeah yeah, we're talking men's open weight at that point but granted six foot 7 he'd you'd have to put on like you'd have to be like 3 20 on stage to do men's open just to be like to have the similar size. You know.

01:09:00.44

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:09:04.47

Paul

Because proportionately it doesn't make sense but I feel bad for anybody who's that high like even for you like 6 before that's a bitch to compete with that is a fucking bitch like five ten is like perfect. You know so like even though I'm potentially close to 5 10

01:09:13.99

christophknoll

Yep, okay.

01:09:20.83

Paul

Um, you mean anything higher than five ten is kind of an as an edit a disvantage for height you know five 10 is like the perfect height so 6 before that's a bitch but you get to eat more so that that there's that plus you get to eat more put on more weight and be stronger too because of it.

01:09:27.97

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:09:35.54

christophknoll

Yeah I eat more. But yeah I mean my strength has been going up to which is nice. Um, but yes and no yes I disagree.

01:09:41.17

Paul

Yeah, are you tall dudes can dead look like a motherfucker I know you disagree because the range of motion but I'm telling you I'm telling you especially if you have arms on the longer side. You have a way you did here's the other thing too. You have way more muscle mass than the average person because of your height. You're just going to have more muscle that's just a reality so because of that there's also so subsequentially more strength so when you're deadlifting deadlifting is going to be 1 of your stronger lifts because of the overall amount of muscle your body can hold bench. No, you're going to be at a severe disadvantage for bench.

01:10:13.57

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:10:18.27

Paul

And arguably squats as well. But deadlift because of how your built your height overall muscle composition and muscle amount I know you disagreed because a range of motion. But if you disc if you just ignore range of motion for a second I'm telling you you're stronger than most guys who can who like for deadlift I'm telling you like there's a guy at the gym. The guy at the front desk guy at the gym I go to he dead lists 4 plates like for reps and he's like probably about my my my weight or like he's like roughly like your frame like he's roughly where you're at like he's taller than me by a few inches. Um, and he's he's probably about where you're at, um, he's probably got a couple of years in the gym on on you but that's about it.

01:10:43.93

christophknoll

Um, yeah, yeah.

01:10:58.80

Paul

So it's like and he he outlifts most guys in the gym. It's just because he just has way more muscle.

01:11:00.31

christophknoll

With with with hand like with the wraps if I did wraps I could do 4 plates because then I don't have to worry about the grip and I'm just focusing on purely form but without it I I know but I lost mind god I lost my wraps.

01:11:08.56

Paul

Um, yeah, what you should be doing. Yeah.

01:11:20.25

christophknoll

A while back and I just haven't gotten new ones. So I Just do you know I just chalk up my hands and I do it Oh natty.

01:11:28.80

Paul

I Like I'm such a like such a um, a advocate for grips not just because like oh Buth Blah Blah you should like put them on when you can't lift the weight whatever when it comes to back for instance, um, is really the only time I use my grips. And something that I will always advocate for is grips because when I live with with Grips. My biasceps are less Activating. My deltas are less Activating. It's my back pulling from my wrist essentially the entire time which is what you want to do? You won't pull from your elbow slash your wrisistst you know your forearm So like.

01:11:58.51

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:12:04.10

Paul

It allows you to really drive the weight way harder than if you just use your grip and there's a testament to that because I recently a few weeks ago set my coach just a t bar row. Um set it was like I think it was like 115 I had on the tbar and I was expecting 10 but I got like 8 or 9 or something and. Said use grips next time I could tell that that's the reason why you couldn't get it I put on my grips and I hit 10 like just because my back can activate a lot harder with them. So like I think that it's such bullshit when people are like or using grips just because you can't lift away. It's like no I can absolutely grip this weight but I'm choosing to use grips to activate my back more then. Everything about my grip like I'll do I'll fucking put my grips on for one thirty five dead lifts for for straight like dead liftfts because I'm doing hams but it's like dude I don't want to have to think about my grip like these reps are so slow and take me so long like my set for my my warm up for rear dead liftfts is.

01:12:51.32

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:12:59.54

Paul

Um, hundred thirty five pounds so it's a plate on each side of a bar I do 20 reps it takes me almost a minute and a half to get through it. My grip is gonna fucking fail by the end of that like it's just you like I'm holding it for that and I don't want to have to think about it I don't have to think about my grip. You know I just want to be able to focus on the muscle group I'm hitting.

01:13:09.64

christophknoll

Yep.

01:13:14.61

christophknoll

Here all ah all I'll order some new grips again. So then when you guys come up and we do it all. All Pr for you guys.

01:13:23.30

Paul

Good. Um I was going to say you should get um I'm a big advocate for Cobra grips as well. Um Cobra grips. Yeah I want to order some cobra grips.

01:13:28.28

christophknoll

I I have 1 specific one that I get I forgot what branded is but it's a mine of mine are just american flag ones. But I found I actually left him at at empire at some point and the other day it broke my heart.

01:13:43.70

Paul

Um.

01:13:46.73

christophknoll

It broke my absolute heart. But ah, there's this dude who sumoss all the time and he sumoss for like not for activating glutes because if you sumo to activate glutes or hammies like you do it like once a week or something he does it every time he he dead lifts and.

01:13:57.84

Paul

Yeah.

01:14:05.35

christophknoll

I Saw him using the rep. So he must have found him and just you know, kept him and it broke my heart because he was doing super short range of motion sumoss with my raps and I wanted to die.

01:14:12.85

Paul

Fucking Sumo did debate in my existence. But.

01:14:19.57

christophknoll

I hate it I if anything I I you see the Anti-sumo ones where the feet are directly together.

01:14:27.95

Paul

Fucking. You also see deficit Dead Lifts to where they stand on plates to keep their feet together. Yeah, that's like the opposite of Sumo did as well I mean I'm I'm agreeing with you like it's it's fucking whack.

01:14:31.48

christophknoll

You? Yeah yeah, it. It's you do you? You know the the video of or the guy who posts the videos of him in his home Jim and he's doing all the weird light. He's got the the like.

01:14:49.41

Paul

Um, yeah.

01:14:50.39

christophknoll

Weird setups and his deficit ones are like like four foot block deficit. Ah what while he's on a skateboard.

01:14:54.87

Paul

Yeah I'm like you're gonna fucking break your spine dude. That's so bad. It's so bad. Yeah oh gosh and having written skateboards them can tell you fucking they'll snap if you don't have your feet just right? It's fucking going to snap.

01:15:09.75

christophknoll

Yeah, yep.

01:15:13.43

Paul

Um, yeah, Cobra Grips is a good brand I use their figure 8 straps. Um, that's what the strong menus and I was just like I needed something that was good for my for my wrist but doesn't pull on my thumb and it's like basically perfect. So um I like to figure 8 straps a lot but a lot of people don't really like um I've other people with tribe mine and they're like a. Not for me. Um, but I think they're I think they're great. So you guys should try them out. Figure 8 grips from Cobra Cobra grips it's called figure 8 deadlift straps. Um I like them because they're quick. You don't have to like wrap them around your hand. You don't have to wrap around the bar or anything like that.

01:15:35.91

christophknoll

Yeah I'll take a look.

01:15:50.31

Paul

And you just like slip your your hand in 1 and wrap it around the bar and then slip your hand through and then you're good. Um, but yeah I don't I don't like having her put them on and shit and they take 3 seconds to pull off you just let go the bar and you go whoop and they just come right? off your hands. It's awesome.

01:15:51.60

christophknoll

Ah, that's part of the fun.

01:16:05.76

christophknoll

I Think it's part of the experience putting the the wraps on just during that time like it gives me time to like not mentally prepare for it but like psych myself up and so then by the time I I'm locked in then I have someone like annihilate my back with a slap or something and then I'm good to go like.

01:16:15.92

Paul

Yeah.

01:16:24.97

christophknoll

That's but the the pull up. Yeah.

01:16:25.00

Paul

And you could shake the bar or when you're like testing it you could shake the bar and the plates will jingle chijing chijuji ding jijing. Yeah, usually like the like half like shake. You know what I mean just bend the bar a little bit. Um, yeah I haven't used those in forever those those types of straps in forever.

01:16:34.59

christophknoll

Um, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:16:43.00

Paul

But yeah I love my figure eights.

01:16:43.56

christophknoll

It's just I dont know it's it's It's just something to like especially when I'm doing it like not like when I have people around I'll take my headphones off So like if they start yelling like I get I feed into the adrenaline or whatever. So like.

01:16:57.15

Paul

Um, yeah.

01:16:58.80

christophknoll

I have that and then I'm spending that time to sit there and rap and not even if people are yelling them I'm yelling at me. But if people are just there like the atmosphere starts to build into it and like I don't know I that little bit of time is like yeah it is yeah.

01:17:06.54

Paul

Yeah, it's a vibe here one second I'm just going to swap headphones for quick one second my my headphones are sorry bother me.

01:17:14.72

christophknoll

Sure yeah, and while Paul's doing that we can talk about something that's super important which is don't sumo I'm kidding I was sorry I was saying while you're switching your headphones here. Super important point.

01:17:23.90

Paul

Um, ever go Yeah I'm back I'm good now.

01:17:34.23

Paul

Yeah, don't don't do that shit. That's whack that just whack whack as fuck. Um yes, are am I just my earbus are just starting to drive my drive me insane with um I've been wearing them like all morning because I did cardio this morning at like 7 15 or whatever it was.

01:17:34.29

christophknoll

Don't sumo.

01:17:53.10

Paul

And then I wore them while I ate breakfast and then I wore them when I was getting ready for recording session today and then I'm wearing them for the recording session. It's like three and a half hours of earbuds in I'm just like my earbuds are just driving me nuts or my ah my ears are starting. They get irritated so I had to just swap or quick. But.

01:18:04.43

christophknoll

Yeah, Paul Paul is an airpod kid he he wears it at all times even when they're dead.

01:18:10.65

Paul

Now I am yeah I am basically um I Love the quiet I Love the quiet that I can get from my earpods or my um, well there the Airpod pros but I love the quiet that I can get from them. It's it's awesome, especially when I'm laying in bed and the fans going cause I don't like hearing the fan.

01:18:18.99

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:18:29.00

Paul

My bedroom but my wife does I'll turn on the noise canceling and the fan goes away. It's like oh silence just pure silence I love it and I can read and fall asleep but I had dude I had speaking of that real quick as a side tangent I had such a fucking vivid dream like 1 of the things that trend does to me is I have super vivid vivid vivid dreams and. My dream last night was literally about the show it was it was about the show and I showed up it was it was dramatic. There's a lot of stuff I'm not going to mention but 1 of the things that was funny was that I showed up and I was get my tan done and this guy goes. Um, he goes. Ah.

01:18:49.79

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:19:06.15

Paul

Division are you doing and I said men's physique and he goes all right. He's like from what I've seen so far. This is this is what was in my dream. This is is not real this. What is our main dream. He goes all what I've seen so far I'm calling you top 2 Overall that's what he said I was like fuck yeah dude and he's like.

01:19:14.80

christophknoll

He yeah.

01:19:23.49

Paul

Small chance of 1 other guy I could think I'll top my head. But I think you're gonna be top 2 That's what I that's what I was thinking or that's my dream. Um, and then like drama happened in shit and whatnot. But it was so it's felt real like I felt like I was actually there so like I woke up like had like I woke up and read a little bit because I just woke up like.

01:19:26.50

christophknoll

And.

01:19:35.52

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:19:42.90

Paul

Full of energy kind of like I just woke up like fully woke up so I had to read for a little bit and fall back to sleep. But like I built this like new motivation almost for the show because I'm like it just I had this vivid dream and it just got me motivated. You know Oh yeah, the universe.

01:19:53.56

christophknoll

God spoke to me and told me.

01:19:59.97

Paul

Universe in God where in my dream last night.

01:20:01.43

christophknoll

I Mean we joke about that but like very well could have been what it was.

01:20:08.60

Paul

Yeah I mean I think that dreams do have some power behind them. It's your subconscious. Your subconscious is way more powerful than your conscious Mind. So I think dreams Really do have some meaning behind it. Um, and there's a lot of times where I've Dreamt like the future like I've actually Dreamt like I remember a specific scenarios where. Um, like I Dreamt something and it actually happened in real life like the exact same thing. So It's like it could happen.

01:20:31.12

christophknoll

Ah I've been waiting I've been waiting weeks but now we're in Christov's Conspiracy's time know those dreams are from the alt.

01:20:36.49

Paul

Oh gosh Oh no Aliens government has approved aliens.

01:20:45.60

christophknoll

No those dreams are from alternate universes Paul and you're seeing just a different version of yourself.

01:20:49.60

Paul

I wouldn't be surprised if that was proven I'd be like that that makes a lot of sense that makes a lot of sense.

01:20:53.63

christophknoll

So it's not going to lie look into Neil degrass tyson. It's talked about it. It's more or less proven. It's pretty wild. It's pretty wild parallel universe is.

01:21:00.90

Paul

Yeah I wouldn Yeah, that'd be.. That's an interesting concept. Um I Just read a book called see of tranquility if you guys like sci-fi books see if tranquility is a quick Read. It's a really good book. Really really good Book. It's a matrix combined with time travel. It's fucking Sick. Um. It kind of makes you think about real life like you're like well are we in a simulation like is there like is Deja vu really just corrupted files like these people you know multiple people are experiencing the same thing So is it really just corrupted files from like time travel or like a simulation or like what is it.

01:21:29.16

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:21:39.28

Paul

Why are people experiencing the same because like what the premise of the book was was that multiple people experienced the exact same thing over multiple centuries. So it's like why did did they experience this. They all heard this Violin a whooshing sound and this other like metallic sound and they blacked out and woke up about 10 seconds later and it was all accounted in history. So it's like why are these people having the same exact instances and it's like is this in quotations a corrupted file of the simulation we're in you know because it could be. You know it's a hina.

01:22:07.52

christophknoll

My corrupted file is that well my my corrupted files that every time I go into the gym I hear Yay but my way but do.

01:22:15.97

Paul

Yeah, it's just it's in your head it echoes her you black out for a second wake up but her i's R Coleman for 3 seconds I'm like his I'm like his twin.

01:22:23.67

christophknoll

Oh God I thought I was running I thought it was Ro Ah, you're at the gym you're at the gym and someone comes up you like why you shouting that? Oh sorry I thought I was him.

01:22:38.78

Paul

I manifested Briney Coleman even though he's still alive I manifested his energy in his spirit I'll talk some lsd before I showed up does anybody got any dmts for my training microose dmt throughout your session.

01:22:50.10

christophknoll

Ah, and we're back on. We're back on the Mark Menzer ah

01:23:00.20

Paul

Anybody getting Meth I'm kind of kind of kind of itching for it right now kind of itching for some meth. Um.

01:23:06.50

christophknoll

So the the itching and like the kick of of needing your fix. Probably you're like such a good incentive to like move some weight. So.

01:23:15.82

Paul

It's was like like straight but realityity to die said that you're experiencing constantly as that I imagine just constant itchies just like Buthole It is constantly because you're itching for your next fix.

01:23:19.90

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:23:24.60

christophknoll

So you have the spider tinglies and yeah, you have the spider tingles but you think there's actually a spider.

01:23:33.48

Paul

That's that's all the that's all the spider. That's all the spidey sense was for Spiderman was just he was just fixing for some meth he took. He took some pre-work out. He yeah he has some beta all in the system. That's what the spidey sense as well. That's where he started tingling.

01:23:38.86

christophknoll

Yep yep, yep can can confirm.

01:23:46.65

christophknoll

He took super savage.

01:23:49.68

Paul

Oh god and then you're like dude you look the prereco essentials for $30 I'm like dude I swear to god if you buy that I will fucking hit you? No I know I'm like I looked at it I'm like that's the most fucking under do pre or god I eversee in my entire life.

01:23:57.19

christophknoll

I didn't buy I was just I was just saying what was on Instagram yeah, you know what I'm buying it now just out of spite.

01:24:11.20

Paul

Don't spend $30 on that shed you'd waste your money.

01:24:12.63

christophknoll

So I'm getting Kiwi watermelon.

01:24:19.70

Paul

Ah, that's dasty flu Good Why else prayer cats are always overdone too much flavor.

01:24:21.69

christophknoll

I was explaining I was explaining to my brother the ah the rule for pre-workouts where if it tastes good. It probably isn't going to do what you wanted to do. But if it tastes like hell you're you're golden.

01:24:30.32

Paul

Yeah, the one there is. There's a couple exceptions where like 1 prayer cut that I have tastes like orange cream sickle. It's not bad like you could tell there's a lot of like sodium in there and shit like it. It tastes okay. But one that's actually tastes really good that I'd probably just drink straighty just to drink is um, red cod one's ah like iced tea lemonade or something I figure what is called let me look it up. Um, it's really good. It's there. Ah. Yeah, total war black tea lemonade. It's actually really really good. Um, they nailed the flavor on that one. It was like I ordered this like big amount of supplements from them. It was like bow 1 get 1 free or something and like it came as like a sample or whatever it was like 15 servings. It came for free along with like a backpack and ship because that's how they do all their sales. And it actually tastes really really really good. Um, it's one of my favorite tasting pre-workouts ever is definitely up there. Um, another one that's kind of strong flavor is shatter from um, ah muscle tech. Um, which I think might just be a Gnc brand. But it it actually tastes um, tastes pretty good even though it's strong.

01:25:49.27

christophknoll

I Don't know man I Really like blue Raspberry C four. Ah.

01:25:52.22

Paul

I like all Cfo workers especially the yellow tub.

01:26:00.46

christophknoll

No I My my heart will always lie with adrenaline or Adrena Adrena What is it called? Um, oh man, it's so it's a prework and I found it. Um, remember that shop that in lemonster.

01:26:13.43

Paul

I I I think I told you about it and Adrena load Yeah did I tell you about it The the um oh Adrena Load is fucking dude. That's the fur out for fucking. Ah oh my gosh. What's it.

01:26:16.48

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:26:29.15

Paul

What's it from Adrena Load is from fucking turbo with the snails. It's that energy drink. It's ah know's talking about is a adrenaline adrenaline with a why? um me see.

01:26:37.66

christophknoll

Ah, well not ah, not adrenaline Adrena alone. But.

01:26:47.67

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:26:49.14

Paul

Free I think it's yeah, it's adrenaline with a y it's from black market supplements I think yeah adrenaline adren.o.lyn so ah, a Dr Dot there's like capital n capital o so it's like nitrous oxide. Um adrenaline. Um. They have they have a new tropic version and they have the pump version. They have 2 different versions I think.

01:27:13.32

christophknoll

Yeah I found it's on Amazon that's convenient. Maybe I'll just pick some up from Amazon um.

01:27:17.14

Paul

Forty Nine ninety nine for 25 servings that's not enough.

01:27:21.42

christophknoll

No I know but I'm telling you. It's my favorite and the the the stim that I got from it was absurd.

01:27:31.41

Paul

Where's me see I gotta to pull up the actual brand because this isn't a um, the new trip you're talking about the new tropic one though, right? Well there's the pre This is black Market pre and it's of course it's fucking.

01:27:38.19

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:27:48.23

Paul

Proprietary I got to look this up because now I got to find it I have some in my um cabinet I think yeah, it's Adre bear It is new Tropic Adrenaline Black market. Yeah, Okay, okay, okay. Where is the nutrition label.

01:28:12.36

Paul

Ah I don't see it oh there it is is cause my yeah $55 for 25 servings I mean you get 25 though so technically is cheaper per serving than it was on Amazon for the regular one? Um, but it's like.

01:28:14.50

christophknoll

If you buy it if you buy it from black market. It's even more expensive. Oh my god Fifty four bucks for the thing. Yeah that 2 group.

01:28:31.66

Paul

The the pump is kind of on the the lower side. It's it's just cittralene but three Thousand Milligrams but the energy iss pretty good three hundred milligrams of ah caffeine thirty Thousand five hundred Milligrams of beta alanine. There's also Alpha Lion Main tyroine

01:28:37.47

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:28:49.68

Paul

Um I see yeah, that's pretty much it tarialphagpc the one that I really like that I just had recently um man I'm gonna I go to Google it by flavor because I forget the brand. Um. You guys ever are able to fight try out boom I think it's boom energy. Um for the energy drinks I think it's something like that boomer so it's ah it's a local brand. Well not really local, but um, it's.

01:29:16.11

christophknoll

Um, Boom there goes boom.

01:29:25.80

christophknoll

Yeah, local is the ah the dude who's making pre-workout in his basement. Ah.

01:29:26.92

Paul

Well, it's a no, it's local to me but it's not like the only sell it in North Carolina is what I'm saying. Um, yeah here it is this is the stuff I was singing before inhuman preorco inhuman they have an orange cream circlele flavor. Um.

01:29:33.30

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:29:46.19

Paul

See yeah, they got it's got good ah citralines on the lower side though. Five Thousand Milligrams but good amount of caffeine. Good amount of focus and stuff like that and it tastes pretty good. But think it's isnt it boom energy.

01:30:04.70

Paul

Is local to I I drawn a blank is local to me the it's the brand that runs the um, okay so America Marica Labs um marica labs um supplements that makes it. It's ah me see yeah, it's called boom um red white boom red white and boom is what it's called um, red white and boom is there like pre bottled shit. Um and they run the gym. Crush a coliseem that's near me. It's about 40 minutes for me and it taste fucking phenomenal. Oh wait red white and boom is there pre work out wait where is it really.

01:30:47.55

christophknoll

Um, yeah, crazy crazy. How ah the America one has red white and boom never would I guess that.

01:31:00.78

Paul

Oh gosh. Yeah, so it's just called um, so the one I'm talking about is called I don't know this was saying like full case of County fair as the flavor name I don't know if I want to drink that. Maybe it's daytona beach it might be Daytona Beach I'm not sure. But yeah, it's called America energy drink red white boom is if you so if you guys ever see that it'll say boom and big blue letters across the can. So if you ever see that definitely try it out. It tastes phenomenal tastes very very good. It's pretty achieved to fifteen bucks for 12 pack is really not that bad little over a dollar each? Um, but yeah, so that's our supplement tuck for the day always talking about supplements.

01:31:38.60

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:31:44.23

christophknoll

Ah, yeah, I'm coming I'm coming right? off right near the end of my ah right near the end of my crazy bulk supplement program. Whatever I'm calling that stack So I'm going to do you know.

01:31:57.27

Paul

Yeah.

01:32:03.68

Paul

Yeah.

01:32:03.89

christophknoll

Buys up measurements chest measurement like all the measurements I did beforehand. Um, let's see where I'm at weightwise I've kind of leveled off at right around bright I this morning I weigh in at 2 2 seven and a half and you know on ah on a heavy day. It's like.

01:32:11.79

Paul

I'm about to ask you that.

01:32:22.44

christophknoll

And by heavy I mean after going to the bathroom and everything just how much I retained like heavy day somewhere around like 2 10 I've gotten to so you know sizewise I'm looking bigger too. So I know that you know I feel better with it. Um, but probably not going to continue it just because there's cheaper ways for me to spend on supplements.

01:32:41.84

Paul

Um, for sure.

01:32:42.12

christophknoll

So there was a fun little. It was a fun little thing to try with my dal and my my and test Testo max.

01:32:47.41

Paul

Get deepal the ran about oh I can't stand the fucking names dude that's so Wck can't stand it. Um, but. Yeah, well I mean I was curious. What your overall like results were going to be so we'll be able to see that now that you're pretty much just about done. It. So That's good.

01:33:04.95

christophknoll

Um, yeah I mean for sure my arms got some size and my chest's got some size. Um my legs I'm no size but little bit of definition in my quad split but and that nothing too too out of the ordinary and for essentially.

01:33:09.35

Paul

Um, yeah.

01:33:16.66

Paul

A.

01:33:24.69

christophknoll

Almost two hundred bucks a month I'm not I'm not going to keep that going.

01:33:28.70

Paul

It's fucking wild. Um, that's you're talking your that's up there. That's a lot that's almost like arguably more than like anabolics. Are you know, like that's a lot of money. Yeah.

01:33:35.85

christophknoll

Yeah, and that was a stack so like obviously if I did like just their like natural testosterone booster then like then it's it's it's way less. Yeah, it's like you know 50 a month I think.

01:33:45.31

Paul

Yeah, wouldn't have been as much. Yeah, there's There's very few like there's no test booster. That's that's over the counter. That's like that there's nothing like that. But there are there are supplements that support.

01:33:59.24

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:34:03.27

Paul

Testosterone production that are good. Um test I think is test aized species nutrition is a good brand I think it's testized from species. Um, yeah, test a lie from species nutrition is a good one. It's on the expensive side if you get it directly from their website but um. Yeah, fifty Five bucks dps nutrition. That's a good one if you really want one that's like going to help support overall just testos from production. It's just natural supplements. Nothing crazy. But um, yeah, it's it's I can't say the term like. Test boost or test boost or anything like that just because it's it's not fucking real. It's either you like you just you just make testosterone in your body. Um.

01:34:41.72

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:34:45.13

christophknoll

You can get like I mean at in your older older years. You can get like medicinal like prescribed things for it and that's real but not not when you when you go to Walmart and you see the the shredded dude on a little bottle that says.

01:34:53.40

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:35:02.48

christophknoll

Test Testo boost or something like that. That's not real.

01:35:04.88

Paul

Yeah, there's also like those. Um, what's it called? There's also like ah why am I drawing on the blank a blank on the fucking brand name um something factor. Um force factor. Yeah, that Brand is a fucking joke Pretty much.

01:35:15.44

christophknoll

So Force factor. Yep.

01:35:21.47

Paul

They they just market like 40 s and 50 s guys just trying to get them to buy their shit. Um and it just doesn't really do anything. There's no such thing as like they have like to test test 1800 it's like the fuck the why the number? what.

01:35:28.73

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:35:40.10

Paul

What is what is this? What am I even looking at what are you doing? What are you talking about.

01:35:42.85

christophknoll

You're you're going to achieve what's the what's the measure. What's the unit of measurement for for test when you get, you're gonna get 1800 nagram which is way above the met but the scale like that's up.

01:35:49.85

Paul

Nanograms per desk clear. Yeah, yeah, the average is like 350 to like nine fifty that's like double the natural amount high end on the high end that's double yeah, that's ridiculous. Um.

01:35:59.97

christophknoll

Third, yeah, but. Ah, yeah, double the high end.

01:36:10.70

Paul

Most guys sit at the ballpark of like 4 5 600 so we're talking like triple what most guys sit in that I mean 5 to 600 I would be I would argue probably right about the the average right? There is is probably about that.

01:36:23.87

christophknoll

Yeah I still I still have yet to go and get I got to get that done just to see where I'm at because I doubt I'm I doubt I'm low. But if I am low then I can get like just actually prescribed test stuff like.

01:36:29.84

Paul

Yeah I think it's good to get done. Everybody should get it done.

01:36:42.19

christophknoll

Not saying that I would be like I don't think I am low just considering how my body functions and how I'm able to you know, operate in the gym and whatnot the drive I have I don't think I am low level wise but if I was then that's like just a actual legal way of getting test.

01:36:52.80

Paul

Um, yeah.

01:36:59.95

Paul

Um, sorry I'm just telling my wife to let the dog out of the room. Yeah I think I mean if anything the worst possible Situation. You're probably just go be unlike the lower end of the average.. That's what most guys end up happening like very few guys of our age are ever going to be like. Actually low enough to like get a diagnosis or like get like a prescription but um I think that ah you if anything like I said you're probably like the worst possible situation probably like 4 to 500 nanograms which is like where I was at when I was natural. Um I had like.

01:37:19.31

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:37:34.23

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:37:36.89

Paul

Shit natural testosterone production which would be kind of a bad thing because like even though it's still within the average range being at the time like 22 training in the gym frequently and eating good and like just like an active 22 year old. I should have had way more Testosolin production than I did you know like it should be much higher than that. So like it actually at that level. It is technically low like you are definitely low, but it's like they can't really do anything about it because you're on the lower average side and that's still a healthy amount. It's just where you should be at if you have something like that at our age at the frequency of activity and all of that.

01:38:06.55

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:38:14.11

Paul

Should be higher so I just can't stand that they're like oh it's safe because you're technically right? where you so should be and it's like well no I Really shouldn't be in this average range I should be in the upper end because of my age my activity level everything just the way I live my life. Yeah.

01:38:27.42

christophknoll

Yeah, young male.

01:38:32.19

Paul

But they don't care about that. They just care about the overall number regardless of how you live your life and it's like it's like the bmi. It's like Bmi is just a judgment roughly of like a good like a general idea of the average person as far as like where they sit on the scale. It's like muscle and fat are not taken into account is literally just weight versus height. That's like what hormone production and hormone measurements are and like the averages and all of that is like they're not taking into account lifestyle age genetics dna ethnicity. Nationality culture. They're not taking really anything into account simply besides just what your actual readings are and what they see on average throughout the average person. It's like even so like it gives you a good idea and you can kind of base it off of that. So like somebody I know recently got like 400 something on his total test and it's like that's on the lower side. You know it's like. That's not very good considering his age and all of that so he's talking about doing trt and it's like I think they'd be a good thing because you should be a lot higher than that. Um I mean even even like one hundred fifty nanograms or sorry milligrams of test I'm probably like I think when I got it tested. It was like 1200 to 1300.

01:39:30.35

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

01:39:39.10

Paul

Ah, nanogras perdesci leader. That's my cruise like that's like a just like just to get by like that's a like It's not really like the men like you should really be cruising on like a 100 is like probably in the average range but like 150 is like still a little bit anabolic but it's like a cruise for me. Um, so even with that. Like I'm like oh okay I should be producing a lot more. You know like just like that crew is alone just kind of tells you a lot. Um, and even if you got like a diagnosis and was able to take you know t r t it'll just drastically improve anybody's life I mean I'm a huge advocate for for you just getting tested. You know.

01:40:13.93

christophknoll

And that's not even including what people identify as like oh man like.

01:40:17.68

Paul

Yeah, fear fear Even a guy there's that there's a clip where I was like.

01:40:24.88

christophknoll

That the me I was gonna say the memes where it's like hi I'd like ah testosterone to to make myself healthier and I'd like to gain some size. No high I'd like testosterone because I feel different. Yes, take.

01:40:41.42

Paul

Yeah, that's really how it works. It's fucking absurd. There's this. Ah, there's there's other clippto that ah I'm not going to say what the meme was but it showed a sponge Bob Lifeguard it was like um it was like he's the lifeguard looked and he was like dear god it's a guy. Yeah.

01:40:54.90

christophknoll

Oh it's a guy.

01:40:57.82

Paul

Yeah, yeah, um, but yeah I Yeah I'd be great. We'd be like I identify as extra extra male can I have more testosterone.

01:41:02.60

christophknoll

Ah, you.

01:41:06.30

christophknoll

Yeah I mean god I'm in Massachusetts I could probably get away with that how progressive it is up here.

01:41:11.46

Paul

Yeah, for real though. Honestly, you could just be like I just want more and they're like okay here here's some we want money you want money. So take it here. You go.

01:41:21.40

christophknoll

Yeah, not like big farmers going to stop me from spending money on with I get them. Ah.

01:41:27.21

Paul

Yeah, exactly they just want your money. Um, give me all of your money. But yeah I don't know we're in a weird state right now. But um I also learned recently speaking of that actually I just learned the situation of why anabolic steroids are illegal in the first place there was one kid.

01:41:44.76

christophknoll

Um.

01:41:44.98

Paul

Ah, did it 1 kid that did it and he was a baseball player and he started taking steroids nobody knows where he got it from but he ended up hurting himself from it and once he heard himself. He ended up killing himself and because of that. Before he killed himself. He he said that he got it from a pro bodybuilder or something like that right like the steroids so his mom like raised hell and went to like the Fda and Cdc and all this shit and just like sued the shit out of them. So like Ronnie Coleman was talking about it on a podcast because he said he was actually called to the federal court to like testify. Um, behalf of bodybuilders and like other bodybuilds were called to and because of this 1 kid's death I also got to mention that he also had he was predisposed to self-injury. He's predisposed to extreme depression extreme anxiety like he was not like just some normal like.

01:42:31.42

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:42:38.37

Paul

100 % healthy mental health was 100% everything was 100%. He wasn't just 100% and then all of a sudden decided to kill himself because it was on anabolics like this was already a pre-existing issue. You know a pre-existing condition and the amount he was taking just really elevated that and really just made it that much worse. And then it resulted in unfortunately him taking his own life and because of that they made it illegal. They said you know he killed himself because of it. It's going to be outlawed. You can't do it anymore and it's like to me, it's like we've talked about this before but it's fucking bullshit because it's like you guys want to say. And nabolics are dangerous because people die from it all that and it's like you know how many people die from cigarettes every day or like you know people get blown up in vapes and shit.

01:43:19.35

christophknoll

Well did you know? yeah, did you know that a hundred percent of people that breathe air die.

01:43:26.53

Paul

Fucking whack oxygen slowly kills us. It's poisonous. We we just die around 80 it takes longer for each person. There's that theory that oxygen is poisonous.

01:43:37.69

christophknoll

And then and well even wilder concept too I mean 100% of people who drink water die like tell me that's not responsible for it too. God legalize anabolics ah, let's let's go.

01:43:42.61

Paul

Yeah, yeah. Clearly we just drink straight aside from cost something.

01:43:53.70

christophknoll

Go to the supreme court and argue that 100% of people who drink water die. Ah yeah yeah.

01:43:56.90

Paul

Um, so might as well just texteroids might as well make yourself more unhealthy because why not we're gonna die anyways, um I just I don't know so I it just sucks because it's like you guys let one bad Apple ruin it for the rest of us. But then you have stuff like. Tobacco will really cigarettes ultimately that kill people all the time arguably every single day and yet you're not doing anything about it. You know, um, granted, it's all, there's lobbying and all that and there's money behind it and there is no money behind steroids because those small clinics that were that were diagnosing and you know really prescribing any sort of anabolics.

01:44:19.73

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:44:33.80

Paul

And if you even did most people didn't even go to these clinics. They'd actually get it from a guy you know like a drug dealer and so they weren't making any money off of it. There was no lobbying from it. So That's why they were able to outlaw so easily because they weren't It doesn't affect the government where if they're to outlaw cigarettes or alcohol something like that that really does kill people every day. They lose a lot of money because you know these politicians lose all this money that they're getting paid to support these companies so it just is's really unfortunate that. That's just the way it is I think personally I think that I don't think that necessarily steeroid should be over the counter legal. But I don't think it should be completely outlawed and I don't think you should be get ah you should get arrested for it. I think you should be misdemeanor because it's not like it's not like weed or like anything like that where like there could be secondhand usage like there is literally no secondhand usage. So you're only affecting yourself.

01:45:22.81

christophknoll

The.

01:45:28.70

Paul

I Think you should get in trouble if you sell it like that's the only time that I think they're really, you should get like in trouble just like any other drug but like I'm also big I'm also a big advocate of like the war on drugs is just ah is just a useless war you know because it's like.

01:45:40.85

christophknoll

Well I think a good way of handling it would be handling it like a Ltc So like you go into an application process and then a thorough background check is taking place and like people who are predisposed to any kind of mental health or people who are subjected to like like you know.

01:45:49.71

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

01:46:00.60

christophknoll

Like 1 percentile strenuous lifestyles will get denied because obviously that'll feed into the bad apples case. But then the regular Joes who like in the application process are like yeah I just want to get to this size I want to do this with my career or my body like application approved. Go down to quickymart or wherever to go get your your anabolics like.

01:46:20.97

Paul

Yeah, yeah I think I think my big thing is like it really wouldn't really affect bodybuilding that much I would still carry on the same way I am now but I think where something like that would be very interesting is if we could have other sports that are Untested. You know baseball football. Hockey stuff like that that are untested and they don't test for Anabolic steroids or anything like that We could truly see like how good can we fucking get at baseball like how far we send this fucking ball when we're able to take D ball and deca and fucking trend and shit and just get like super super strong like that's what I think would be very interesting is like.

01:46:46.92

christophknoll

Me.

01:47:00.39

Paul

Untested leagues to see like like or like the olympics like track like imagine track untested like how fast can the human body run like how far can we run like how fast can we run how far can we throw a shot put like shit like that like that's what I find interesting. That's what would be interesting to me to see is like even figures.

01:47:05.64

christophknoll

no no Jesus

01:47:17.50

christophknoll

We call it we we call it the the special point two Olympics where it's the opposite end where it's the upper echelon and you're pushing with all sorts of antibodics to see what what it could happen.

01:47:20.19

Paul

You know.

01:47:24.86

Paul

Special 2.0

01:47:34.55

Paul

Right? right? Yeah I think it'd be interesting. Um and we could really see how far the human body goes. There's a lot of a lot of sports that have it all within it. Um, cycling is one of them long distance cycling the torto friends actually has a real problem with it because the top thirty forty fifty guys all take shit you know? yeah.

01:47:48.60

christophknoll

Oh they're all oh yeah.

01:47:51.80

Paul

So it's like why not just let them take it. Why not just make it legal or not necessarily legal just like just turn a blind eye. You know, kind of like bodybuilding where it's like it's untested. They don't talk about it. They don't say anything about it. It's all known that everybody's taking shit but it's like the the shows and the promoters and all of that they don't say anything they don't even bring it up.

01:47:57.36

christophknoll

Yeah, yep.

01:48:08.48

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:48:11.38

Paul

You know why? Not just do that. Why not just not even bring it up. Let's just see like what would happen how far can these guys go how fast can they ride the door. France.

01:48:17.26

christophknoll

And well it's like it's like the ah any any person who's ever been given the opportunity to interview the rock. There's like the list of things you can't ask about and steroids is one of them like same thing. So.

01:48:25.47

Paul

Exactly yeah, right? It's just like it's it's very much don't ask don't tell but I think in bodybuiling it should be spoken about more so that kids don't get hurt and I think so like something like the tour de France you're not going to see a real big issue because. The people who are typically competing in that are on the older side where bodybuilding in the gym is very much a younger sport for the most part. So. That's why I think it should be more transparent and bodybuding specifically but in other sports I think would be very interesting if they can have those tested leagues where not tested like untested leagues where.

01:48:50.73

christophknoll

Yep.

01:49:03.23

Paul

Doctors are involved and you have clinics involved where like you can't so like here's my thing is like for it to work properly I think that you can't just like order it from a guy and just start competing in that sport I think you should be like. Involved within their doctors. They know how much you take the prescribe it. Whatever like you like go through official channels to actually compete in that version of it. Um, that way they know that like you're not abusing it. You know like you're using what's actually efficacious. What's actually gonna help you. You're.

01:49:30.63

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:49:35.90

Paul

Eating your training properly everything like that I think that would be very interesting where it's all monitored especially on the professional level where it's like fully like officially monitored by a medical team and you know you're doing proper usage of the anabolics and see how far we can go as a species I think it'd be very interesting. And I Also wonder too at the same time if long-term use I don't know if this is ever going to be proven or anything like that. One of my things that I think about sometimes is if long-term Anabolic usage will then translate into genetic material and be passed on so like.

01:50:09.33

christophknoll

Yeah, so.

01:50:11.78

Paul

I Take testosterone for most of my life would I technically be able to pass that on to my kids to have naturally higher testosterone levels or something like that you know I mean like I wonder what the long term effects of something like that is because it's so new. Yeah, so I wonder that too I Wonder how far we can go as a species but you know.

01:50:25.12

christophknoll

There's chance. Yeah, there's a chance that.

01:50:30.74

christophknoll

Well we know that aliens are here so we have to be the biggest and baddest.

01:50:31.78

Paul

All that will come in time. Yeah they're small little green shits. We got to be bigger than then we got a mog on on the second day land okay yeah like well we don't want to be here. There's clearly no intelligent life which.

01:50:39.42

christophknoll

Yeah, bring us to your leader.

01:50:51.94

Paul

Speaking of that is an interesting question who would you bring the aliens to and they said bring us to your leader.

01:50:58.93

christophknoll

Ah, Jeff Seeeds or Jeff Sides grave yeah ah sorry um, it says. Yeah sorry why I got the names wrong sorry he's hobbling over.

01:51:03.63

Paul

Jeffrey Side is of alive. You mean means his okay i' look at a sayie Jeff Sides and I just bring him to Ronnie Coleman he is our leader. yeah he is our leader

01:51:16.67

christophknoll

But those walking stakes. Oh no I that.

01:51:19.20

Paul

He is the biggest money brother of all time he is our leader I Also wonder that too like what would happen if like to become president and you have to be like the strongest the strongest American at this rate.

01:51:28.13

christophknoll

I Mean out better better that way I mean honestly the way things have been going.

01:51:36.98

Paul

We run a test to see who wanted the least amount and whoever wants it. The least amount is the one that gets the presidency have the least qualified person do it and actually represent the us government or actually represent the us s people I mean let's have let's not have these 90 year old fucking dusted fart people.

01:51:42.28

christophknoll

Ah, Jesus ah, yeah.

01:51:55.21

Paul

And the government let's have like an age cap and you have to not want to do it in order to do it. You have to take a lie to text your test. Yeah, you have a better representation of can you plug in an a in my cord. Yes, yeah, yeah, it's like out of a reaping.

01:51:59.20

christophknoll

You You have to be fresh, fresh out of high school eighteen years old randomly select it. You're you're selected like the hunger games. Yeah yeah.

01:52:14.34

Paul

Maybe the odds be evervan your favorite please please no presidency fuck damn it now I'm the president for 4 years so a bitch ah coach. We've got to cancel the show on the president now.

01:52:21.39

christophknoll

Ah.

01:52:25.26

christophknoll

Ah, that'd be funny though if someone was an active bodybuilder wild president and like going and doing shows and you just see the secret service instead of all the other bodybuilders on stage to.

01:52:32.52

Paul

You it's possible. The youngest age for president is 35 you could totally be on the olympia stage as a president. It's totally possible. Chances are extremely extremely low, but it could happen.

01:52:38.89

christophknoll

Yeah, what do you? What do you? What are your thoughts on foreign policy slowly mogs.

01:52:51.83

Paul

Um, you know testosterone D Ball Deca Oh sorry Sorry yeah, the basic things. Yeah, what do you take her vitamins or yeah, you know the basic things Testosterone D ball Deca all that.

01:52:56.24

christophknoll

Yeah, well yeah, yeah, you know? yeah the basic settings an interview from Ronnie Goleman

01:53:08.56

christophknoll

Ah.

01:53:08.78

Paul

You know the basic stuff. You know you know basic stuff I cried. The first time I saw that I was laughing so fucking hard like I genuinely could not breathe like because I said it said what vitamins are you taking and it it was listening that I was like I was deep in a fucking cycle at that point I just could not fucking handle it like it was.

01:53:23.93

christophknoll

Yeah.

01:53:26.55

Paul

Like it's like a strong test in Premo cycle when I when I saw that I just fucking lost my shit I was like that's so good. That's so funny. But yeah, good stuff next time we yeah you guys hear from us I'll be ah, either done the show or about to do the show I don't know when we're going to record next. But.

01:53:33.48

christophknoll

How you.

01:53:44.30

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, that's crazy. Yeah.

01:53:46.11

Paul

Um, I know I can do Sunday evening because page is flying out at like 2 on Sunday. So.

01:53:49.56

christophknoll

Well I was going to say even if we wait until Monday and do it in person we could do that to.

01:53:53.87

Paul

Yeah, we'll see if you have the time I don't know if I'll have the time when I'm up there because I'm only there for a few days so we'll see but if you guys don't hear from us next weekend just know that we were gonna be posting. Don't worry what we'll we'll figure it out. We have to do an hour or something like that. That's fine. We'll figure it out.

01:53:57.94

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

01:54:07.86

christophknoll

Yep, go Yeah, we'll figure it out Ia ice you.

01:54:13.26

Paul

Yeah, thanks for listening guys see. Yeah.

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