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HGH #53 - Unorthodox Training Methods


00:00.00

christophknoll

Weird and wacky stuff. That's where we're headed today.

00:03.81

Paul

Hello hello hello yes, some weird as training today is what we're gonna be talking about. There's a ah weirds.

00:07.97

christophknoll

In specifically I was just going to say specifically back and buys weirdest weirdest workout known to man I'm kidding it's It's like the most common one like like back and by literally the most common split.

00:18.70

Paul

That's a weirdass split man only bitches run that back and by his chest and tries.

00:27.31

christophknoll

Ever create it.

00:29.69

Paul

Yep, back by his chest and tries and legs.

00:31.90

christophknoll

Gets a text from his worked out buddy hey I'm going to try new program. Oh yeah, what is it back by Chess Tries legs.

00:40.37

Paul

Push pull split push pull legs then rest for two days there's a um, there's this youtuber out who's now not really people don't really like his name is ah v I think it's vegan bodybuilder or something like that.

00:42.64

christophknoll

Bro That's that's crazy. No one's ever tried that before.

00:58.80

Paul

Vegan but I forget but he used to be bigger a few years ago before covid like 20182019? Um, and his way of training was his so he's vegan and that's like his whole thing is that he eats nothing but like soy right? So like he just. That's all he eats is soy and fucking tofu. And all that. But there's his argument is because it takes two days for the body to recover so like 48 hours basically what he does is he trains upper or he trains ah a total body workout every 2 days so who do a total body rest total body rest. That's how you've always trained and I'm like no no, he just had a Youtube channel that a lot of people subscribe to and he was. He's vegan. That's like his whole thing is that he's vegan. Um, and ah that was his argument and it's like.

01:34.36

christophknoll

And he's like a professional bodybuilder or just famous. Okay.

01:51.69

Paul

If you're using logic then theoretically, that's not like I can understand where he's coming from but also that's not necessarily how it works. Yeah, there could be there could be worse. But yeah, he yeah, it's just you can't stimulate.

01:59.28

christophknoll

That's not. It's not the worst. Yeah, it's not the worst idea ever. Yeah, exactly.

02:09.88

Paul

Every single muscle to the point of needing recovery if you're doing a total upper body or total body day you're just you don't have the energy for that typically. Ah so it's just not going to work out.

02:19.29

christophknoll

What what that? What that kind of workout is promoting is just like general lifestyle because you can stay like fit. You can stay fit doing that and especially if like on your rest day. You have some form of cardio in there like you can definitely just.

02:26.66

Paul

Yeah.

02:38.50

christophknoll

Do that to not bodybuilder type size maintain. But if you're just like a fit dude and you just want to maintain and not actually do anything that I can see that working for that.

02:49.88

Paul

Yeah I mean there's I mean there's a lot of debt better training for something like lifestyle but um, in this case, Yeah, it's just like the logic just I get where the logic is coming from but it's not how the human body works. Um.

02:53.38

christophknoll

I agree.

03:04.42

Paul

And on top of that you'd have to if you really were let's say theoretically you really were stimulating each muscle and damaging each muscle enough to have to recover over the next twenty you know 48 hours you'd have to eat a lot of food you'd have to do nothing but rest because you just fucked your whole body.

03:22.64

christophknoll

That workout that workout would have to be like 6 hours long

03:24.20

Paul

So just like theoretically it doesn't work out. Yeah, exactly That's what I'm saying like it's like my when I was doing six day splits each day was like 45 ish minutes or so forty five fifty minutes not really much more than that. So it's like doing that. Let's say that times 6 well all right? Let's take out an arm day because I two arm days. So that times 5 we'll say that times 5 we just say like 3 hours at minimum of just going at it crushing it for 3 hours straight and then doing that again every other day like it doesn't it doesn't it's not.

03:58.22

christophknoll

Yeah.

04:03.84

Paul

Like it doesn't produce. It's not going to produce quality tissue. It's just not how it works. Um, so that is 1 unorthodox way of doing it but I could see you know maintaining a bit and if you just do like an hour workout. Maybe 1 or 2 movements per like.

04:10.39

christophknoll

I Mean he's.

04:19.88

Paul

You know muscle group or something but at that point I would say that upper body day then a lower body day and then a rest day would be better than like a total body than rest total body than rest.

04:28.94

christophknoll

Yeah I mean I can understand it too because he's not getting enough of proper like protein and vitamins in his body because he's a fucking vegan. But um, yeah, it messes. Yeah now like whatever someone talks about vegans being like tapped or mental or anything like that. It's you know.

04:35.14

Paul

Yeah, that yeah.

04:46.77

christophknoll

Not the craziest argument in the world because you're depriving your body of you know things that it should be eating so.

04:54.10

Paul

Yeah, it's um I mean we I could trash on Veganism all day vegetarian or Pescatarian little different depending on the the type of vegetarian you are pescatarian.

05:05.60

christophknoll

Pescatarians Legit Pescatarians legit.

05:07.20

Paul

Yeah I can I can get behind pescatarianism. That's fair, you know you just don't eat farm animals Really you just eat fish and eggs which are very sustainable. Um, that's fair, totally fine. You don't drink milk which is fine. Um I don't drink milk either. But you know you don't consume dairy nothing like that. So I can get behind that vegetarianism. There's different.

05:12.54

christophknoll

But.

05:26.89

Paul

Different levels to it Obviously um, but Vegan is just like yeah no I'm just going to draw the y in there and to me I also kind of draw the line. So like I can respect people who run a carnivore diet especially people who have autoimmune diseases and inflammation issues. Um, because the carnivore diet is phenomenal for for gasshintestinal inflammation issues. Ah so your Gi tract by the way guys Gi Tract Gas intestinal tract is essentially just your digestive system. It's just your intestines and all of that that actually digests your food. As you say your Gi Tracked. You're talking about your digestive system but specifically the inflammation that can happen during that is what I was referencing um carnivore diet is great for inflammation in that aspect. So I can understand that but I don't think I can ever condone raw carnivore which is only eating raw meat. Ever And I'm like that's just dangerous. Gotta cook your food.

06:23.75

christophknoll

Ah, is is is there anyone in mind that you that you can think of that promotes that ah that kind of I would call that maybe ancestral living. Um, that's crazy I Yeah I wonder what? that.

06:32.29

Paul

The 9 ancestral tenants where the original idea come from got to you got to do like a upside down you got to lay on your back and point your your ass at the sky to sun your balls.

06:38.60

christophknoll

You need this on your balls. Ah.

06:48.70

christophknoll

Yeah, but that's that's that's the hypertrophy based everyone knows that.

06:51.89

Paul

Yeah, it's all Anabolic you're not, You're not making gains unless you're setting in your balls. You just go to the tanning bed. You're just like you go to the taing place. You're just like you have a ball machine. They're like get the fuck out.

06:58.84

christophknoll

So yeah, exactly. Ah.

07:05.80

christophknoll

Ah, know you you go to pf for the first time to use their tanning thing and the person's like trying to show you and you're getting in with all your clothes and like no no, no, that's not how it works I'm like oh yes, it is undoes the fly and just takes your balls out. Ah.

07:17.78

Paul

Just just your zipper just your zipper you just? yeah, you just put your nuts out. That's it. But um, yeah, it's just anyways, that's just I don't he. Even with a total opera body day like your or total day body day even like you were saying like even with veganism like it's not going to like the veganism really does hold him back. Not to mention the extra training style so there was one I think it was generation one of the generation irons. It was talking about the first ever pro indian bodybuilder. And he was vegan and he got like sixteenth or seventeenth or something at the olympia or something I forget I want to say it was the olympia not that worth talking about it. But um, he the amount of food he had to eat to keep up with the protein intake and shit and.

08:02.68

christophknoll

I was going to say.

08:07.66

Paul

On top of that just like fucks his stomach because he has to eat so much like high fibered foods just to get the protein in and all that. So um, he was yeah yeah, a lot of just straight Bark Jerky dried out bark with some so pepper on it peppercorn. But.

08:17.10

christophknoll

It's a lot of bark to eat.

08:27.64

Paul

He he was never going to I don't think he was ever going to place well at that level. Um pro I can understand but not at the top level because you just the diet just doesn't promote it. You need more protein. So.

08:37.40

christophknoll

Yeah I mean there's I can't even think of like medical reasons why someone would need to do that. So.

08:48.28

Paul

Yeah,, there's not I mean unless you're allergic to certain meats. But ah for Vegan diet to be involved in profession or bodybuilding just doesn't just doesn't really have a place you know it's like it's like ah how do I explain it. I Don't even it. There's no like it just it wouldn't condone it at all like there. You don't.

09:10.67

christophknoll

What what I can see it being is someone taking it as a challenge like um I forgot who it was wasn't kai it was It was someone some person some big bodybuilder is going on an all Watermelon diet.

09:24.53

Paul

Oh is that um, isn't that fucking. Ah what's it called? Um, the guy who has the high 5 mud or whatever the fuck it's called um calie muscle isn't it Cali muscle is doing that.

09:25.16

christophknoll

Which is terrible. Absolutely terrible.

09:36.30

christophknoll

I think that's it. Yeah um, but my point being is like that's that's clearly him just doing that trying to like do it as like a challenge like obviously that's terrible for your like games and whatever because you know watermelon has nothing but you know natural sugars and like. A little bit of you know little bit of carb if anything. But even that's pulling that strings. So it's done for a challenge. So like I can um I can see someone going like all right I want to be a pro bodybuilder in 5 years on all vegan. Like I can see that as being a challenge you'd have to be tapped because I mean who's going to do that as a challenge but I can see that being you know, just something someone does.

10:15.00

Paul

Yeah.

10:22.63

Paul

Yeah I mean I there are people who go through you know one month or two month challenges or something who are in the pro world. Ah, and that's a lot of that is because of you know, whether that's getting to a healthier place or. Um, cleaning out something like that detoxing along those lines ah because in the grand scheme of things. You know if you're doing like a month thing to clean out or get healthy. Um, it's not going to be that detrimental to the overall plan. Ah. If. That's part of it. So like you know like December whenever it is I'll be done by pct if I was just like you know what I want to try to like go a little vegetarian or something like only have eggs is like my meat and then everything else is vegetables I could theoretically do that I'm not training super hard. You know I'm not. Bulking I'm not cutting I'm just kind of maintaining and just trying to focus on just physical health for a little while like that that could be doable but then the second you get into an actual plan and the second I would theoretical if you get back onto anabolics would be the second I'd cut out that challenge for instance, right? So um. That just wouldn't yeah just watermelon only just you're just asking to get hurt at that point. Um, there are plenty of people who got on like hunger strikes and shit not in the bodybuilding world but in general and they get hurt so doing like watermelon you have to eat so much of it like you're going to fuck your whole digestive system. Ah.

11:53.20

Paul

Just eating all that food watermelon. There's just no substance just no substance Really, you know it's watermelon for for a reason. So yeah I don't know we'll see how that goes.

11:53.13

christophknoll

Yeah.

12:02.31

christophknoll

Well didn't you know that? ah did you know that when you take you like an Anabolic and it's like in pill form if you chew the pill. That's actually that's actually all the food you need for the day so you ah it.

12:10.98

Paul

Yeah, that's it. That's it when you're prep when you're prep. It's just you just drink and eat your anabolics. That's it keeps you keeps you full windsrawl just taste delicious delicoso.

12:27.95

christophknoll

Meal one a single de ball.

12:29.11

Paul

Yeah, one d ball 1 every 5 3 every 5.5 minutes I have one d ball. It keeps me keeps me tied over and then just water with salt salty water.

12:41.19

christophknoll

Ah.

12:46.83

christophknoll

Absolutely absolutely vascular to the cheek but nothing else.

12:48.38

Paul

Some sometimes I mix it up with some pepper and some mustard to my water get a little flavor just straight Jalapeno seeds. You just chew them to have something.

12:55.44

christophknoll

A little bit of little bit of hot sauce.

13:04.65

christophknoll

You find? no no, no you find? ah you find just the I know it doesn't work like this but sodium as a compound and I just have a thousand Milligrams of Sodium Oh what food? No I just had a thousand millions of Sodium That's it.

13:20.11

Paul

Just just one gram of straight Sodium molecules. You can't even see it. It's that it's that refined. Ah, what is it gonna say after that shit it's gonna add something to it.

13:24.33

christophknoll

Yeah.

13:35.41

Paul

Oh I was gonna say that that mustard and pepper joke I made is like shit. You'll think about pretty much in prep like that's the shit you will think about how can I make this taste better and it's just like plain chicken like I've tried some wack shit dude like I I.

13:52.50

christophknoll

Yep.

13:52.97

Paul

I'm trying to think like um I mean pickles of course pickles all the time just pickles pickles pickles whenever you can and prep. But um, some of them more like I'll mix like ah like putting Italians like herb seasoning on eggs.

13:59.27

christophknoll

Ah.

14:12.54

Paul

It doesn't really add a lot but it's nice and then like um if you cook your asparagus on a pan like what I would do is I'd have I'd cook asparagus on a pan right? and I wouldn't really clean it that much I just kind of wipe. It. So like this little pan would get like asparagus seasoning. Like over time So like my asparagus had stronger flavor every single time it cooked so like it tasted different every time. So like that's something I did as well. Um, it's just you got some weird as fucking concoctions. But I mean Mustard and coffee. Was like heaven like if I got like if I could have flavored coffee during prep like before we cut out the artificial flavors and now I know better now I know the brands that have naturally flavored coffees death wishes one of them so I can get like their you know chocolate halesnot or whatever. Blueberry Um coffee. They naturally flavored but the unnatural flavors was like heaven like oh there are it just made my day every time I had it? Um, but.

15:16.84

christophknoll

Yeah, well, there's a yeah, there's there's a guy who got drafted into the Nfl this year um and he puts mayonnaise in his coffee god no.

15:29.97

Paul

See I can understand that I don't see so like in I Want to say it's isn't it Ah Spanish countries that put cheese in their hot chocolate I think.

15:33.57

christophknoll

Now.

15:41.94

christophknoll

Oh I didn't know that.

15:43.84

Paul

Want to say it's hot chocolate. Yeah I Want to say it's hot chocolate I think I've said coffee in the past but pretty sure it's hot chocolate it. It gives a creaminess to it. It's not so like I can understand the mayonnaise it probably gives it a creaminess. It's like when you um when you make grilled cheese. You don't put butter on the bread you put mayonnaise on the bread when you're cooking it.

16:02.47

christophknoll

Yeah.

16:03.20

Paul

Like on a griddle or something. Um, so like you're not giving it necessarily a mayonnaise flavor. It's it's for the creaminess. It's for the moisture. Um, so I think maybe that's along the lines unless he's just putting like a glob of it. He shows like I just blow of mayonnaise but I don't want anybody to see me drinking mayonnaise.

16:15.41

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, he's he everyone thought that the the mayonnaise was a weird thing but to him Coffee is the weird thing.

16:20.50

Paul

And Zeal ah like ah like a liman or something.

16:26.64

Paul

Yeah, he's like I like to have a little bit of coffee with my mayonnaise. Not my mayonnaise with my coffee is he like a larger dude is he like oh gotcha. Yeah I mean I can understand it. You know.

16:35.28

christophknoll

No, he's a quarterback he's he's you know he's just athletic. That's all.

16:45.70

Paul

I like mayonnaise but not putting it at my coffee I could tell you that um but to further talk about like unorthodox like training methods caught in four K um to to to get to get more into that. Ah.

16:47.51

christophknoll

Yeah.

17:04.77

Paul

What are some more I mean Crossfit of course cross was the joke.

17:08.41

christophknoll

Yeah, well I guess ah we'll well we'll start with um this conversation started with ah you know us discussing you know what topics to do for the podcast this week and I knew a guy or I say I know a guy not new. He's still alive. Um.

17:13.14

Paul

Will you.

17:26.85

christophknoll

I Know a guy who does legs and arms in the same lift every week. That's his leg and arm day and like to me I divert so much into my leg day that I don't even think I could do other things in my leg day. Um, but again to each their own and so it just kind of. Started a conversation of like you know what are some of the weirdest most ah unorthodox trainings like methods that we've seen or even like just exercises that are weird. Um because like to me thinking about a leg arm day is like all right? you're you're gonna walk out with the. The gnarliest pump known to man like that's the kind of workout where you go and you propose right? after because you're just fully jacked up. Yeah lemb day.

18:07.83

Paul

You could just call it a limb day because you're just hitting limbs. Yeah I'm just what's your day to day limbs. That's not Torso limbs.

18:19.43

christophknoll

Ah, yeah, lower torso is my is my workout today.

18:23.59

Paul

What's your what's your split like I got Torso limb split. So I got a torso day a limb day and then a rest day but I was but the same arrest day I trim my neck I was little about to say that.

18:28.70

christophknoll

I Have a neck day where you you have you have the the plate loaded headgear where you're just nodding the whole time when you train your neck.

18:41.70

Paul

You got like the cable machine hooked after you just like doing this shit pulling it to the side. Um.

18:46.70

christophknoll

I My buddy ah my my old training partner used to do neck workouts where he would ah it would lie down on a bench and like lie down so his head is off the back of the bench and he'd just hold a plate on his head.

18:51.36

Paul

Um I have.

18:59.19

christophknoll

And just inclined with his head back and forth to train his neck and he'd then he'd do it from the side and stuff like that real weird to see in the gym.

19:05.85

Paul

There It is weird but there is um, certain sports that actually require it I Want to say football is one of them. You're supposed to train your neck. Ah, for football I think um.

19:15.57

christophknoll

I can see rugby being one.

19:18.16

Paul

And then potentially I'm not sure about rugby but the number one sport that requires it is racing. Um, especially when you're getting to like f one. Yeah, like all the f 1 racers have super strong necks because the g forces of the cars. It's like on average.

19:26.76

christophknoll

Oh really.

19:33.70

christophknoll

Oh that's right.

19:37.41

Paul

On average like in ah in a hairpin corner I forget what the measurement was what kind of corner it was or whatever their their head because of the like it was like 2 or three g forces because of that their head weighed an extra like 50 to £60 so they had to like fight that you know when they're.

19:53.16

christophknoll

Because their their body is strapped in but their head isn't right? okay.

19:56.35

Paul

Cornering correct and then they got their helmet on and all that and when they're breaking their breaking gforce is extremely strong on those cars. So like if you look up a video. There are tandem f 1 design cars or style cars where.

20:04.80

christophknoll

Yeah.

20:12.32

Paul

There's a driver in the front who takes people in in a back seat basically which has very similar down force and speed to an f one car and the second he touches the brakes people's heads will just smack into the front seat and just stay there because the g forces are so strong they can't keep their head up so that you just do they just? ah and they come back up.

20:25.24

christophknoll

Yeah.

20:31.34

Paul

Um, and then when they're cornering. They're like this because they can't keep their head up their neck is just staying attached. That's all it is.

20:38.12

christophknoll

You know how when you go into like a deep squat for your Pr and you're like shouting you're like ah you're trying to get the the thing up, you're just have your head flat against the sea going ah just trying to push your head back. Ah Pr.

20:47.40

Paul

Yeah, just try to try to push your head back up. Yeah, so like something like that. There's a 3 3 to have three 4 So let's go. Um, there's a video of recently actually that went viral in the f one community land on Norris who.

20:52.33

christophknoll

Three G vars.

21:03.80

Paul

Racist for Mclaren um I'm a big f one fan by the way everybody listening um when I'll land on Norris which is my favorite racer. Actually I love linno but he yeah he was he streams racing games and stuff. Ah and somebody is like so he's like how do you keep your head up when you're racing.

21:05.17

christophknoll

Now Gun tell.

21:22.30

Paul

And he just goes and his like neck is bigger than his fucking head and he's just like neck. That's all he says neck it was it was wild. You got to look it up. It's like his like neck muscles come out almost over his Adam's Apple

21:37.18

christophknoll

Yeah.

21:39.00

Paul

But then when he's like sitting. Normally it looks normal. But then once he flexes it. It's like neck. Ah so yeah, so they need that so you got to train your neck and some of the neck machinery just looks really really weird um there are neck machines where like you put your face in it and you like like push forward with your head. And you could like change the weight on it and everything just like any other machine. It's it's weird looking so that's that's something that could be a little unorthodox if you see it in person. Um, yeah I mean you probably just look up like Landau Norris neck maybe

22:04.92

christophknoll

Yeah I'm trying to find that video now.

22:16.61

christophknoll

Landau.

22:18.11

Paul

L a n b o yeah land down norris neck the first ah video that pops up is says huge neck.

22:29.87

Paul

Yeah, how do I prepare gforce. He just shows his neck goes huge neck. He just got big neck.

22:38.87

christophknoll

Neck.

22:44.83

Paul

But yeah, they they train a lot their neck. Um, they have these like head straps. Basically that they put her on their head and they fight other people pulling it. Um and fight machinery cables and all of that and because they need to fight it back and they need to fight it left and right for the cornering.

23:00.53

christophknoll

Imagine imagine you going to like a commercial gym and they don't have the specific kind of neck workout or neck machinery so you the person buys like the cable attachment for and just takes like 1 of the cable crosses.

23:02.90

Paul

Um, not necessarily forward, but.

23:20.72

christophknoll

Sets it to the right height puts it on you just see him like.

23:24.47

Paul

Takes like 1 of those like ah rest wraps you know like that you do for like side lateral raises and just like wraps her on his head or something makes like some like duct tape like like weird contraption. Um, then there's also for f 1 drivers too because they don't have.

23:29.24

christophknoll

Ah, yeah, yeah.

23:40.84

Paul

They don't have um oh my gosh steering assist. You know like they don't have um, whatever it's called I I'm drawing a blankk and what it's called um, you know was power steering God Why could I not think of that so because they don't have power steering.

23:50.99

christophknoll

Power searing.

23:57.99

Paul

And the wheels are so thick with this contact patch and surface area. It's extremely hard to turn the the wheel in an f one car especially when you're going slow so they have these giant machines that have been made just for f 1 drivers to train on and they'll have like their wheel attached to it. Basically. And they just keep increasing the weight and they just turn it as hard as they can and do like each side a number of reps in order to build up their forearms and you know their shoulders and their back because like they're using like every muscle in their body to turn these cars because they need to get to the point where they can race for like 2 hours essentially straight almost. Without getting fatigued because they need to focus on racing not how fatigued their forearms. Are you know? so like it's almost like yeah it's like it's like training for a marathon like you need to train to run longer than a marathon so that you can focus on winning the marathon you know so.

24:38.34

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, you can't be distracted.

24:48.56

christophknoll

Exactly.

24:51.61

Paul

Um, that's what it is for them. They need to train it so that they're way further ahead? Um, so like that's weird to see because they're strapped into a chair and they're just like force in this wheel to turn. It's like that's another weird one to see um videos of as far as you know unorthodox but it just depends on the usage really at the end of the day for for them. But.

25:03.10

christophknoll

Um.

25:11.35

Paul

To loop it back some more so weird splits that I've seen is like chest and quads I've seen that they'll call it front day. Um, legit like they'll call it front day and then they'll have back Gluten Hams they'll call it back day like rear day. Um.

25:19.90

christophknoll

Yeah, that's real.

25:26.76

christophknoll

Hey I'm hitting back today. Oh can I hop in shit why we doing hamstrings.

25:31.66

Paul

I meant like the back of my body What you see from behind.

25:36.44

christophknoll

Ah, the the most jimro type comment I could ever imagine.

25:43.32

Paul

What you see from baha is back day. Do you got any steroids. Um and then they'll probably do like an arm day like arm and delt day or something after that. But that's some some more unorthodox stuff I mean.

25:47.41

christophknoll

Ah calves.

26:01.25

Paul

Even like Arnold's like we mentioning earlier like Arnold's just kind of weird because it's like chest and back you know and he would yeah he would superset interior muscles so he'd do like you know like incline. There's a video of him doing an incclined press immediately getting up and going doing a la pulldowns which theoretically again.

26:05.22

christophknoll

I Did that for a little bit.

26:16.39

christophknoll

Yep.

26:19.68

Paul

Logically makes sense because it's like while your chess is resting because you're not working at at all during lapo nouns. You could be working your back and then vice versa. But there're 2 such large muscle groups. It's just they're kind of fighting each other over who's going to get the recovery. Granted, it worked for arnold but still, um.

26:34.99

christophknoll

Yeah, and it's the whole like you know, shock the mess shock the muscle mentality where it's like you know your body's like all right? We're training chests today. We're gonna do incline and regular bench press and all sorts of stuff. Oh my god it's a lateral raise.

26:51.80

Paul

It's like the ah you ever see those videos where like the gal sit down on the bench and be like you got shocked to muscle and he go to like lift up the bar then all of a sudden he does like leg extensions with the with the end attachment. There was another video that went viral like a month ago and this guy.

26:58.20

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

27:07.25

Paul

Like riding a scooter a motorcycle or something and goes around a corner and and falls he like low sides and like rolls a little bit then he's like on his stomach and then all say he starts doing pushups. It's like you got to shock the muscle you go shock it.

27:19.43

christophknoll

I did that I did that a while back back when I was training at pf so like two years ago at this point something like that. Maybe 3 where um, yeah, where I'm in a smith machine and it to everyone. It looks like itm going to be doing decline press.

27:24.58

Paul

Quite a few. Yeah.

27:35.24

christophknoll

And all of a sudden I just start doing like pull ups towards the bar. It's like 1 of my only tiktoks I've ever made.

27:40.87

Paul

That's awesome. That's so funny. That's so funny. Yeah, you could have put it like the ziz music over it.

27:48.27

christophknoll

Well mine is the Pam Pam Dam Pi Pamp pain pretty do but paper if you died I don't know that's tough to yeah, got of shock your muscle I do ankles with wrists.

27:55.28

Paul

Oh man I gotta watch it I'd have to see it I got to see that that clip of yours. Um, some more yeah I Love those I Love those videos.

28:08.25

christophknoll

That's that's that's my workout split and joint day. yeah yeah I mean ah, really we we do make fun of a lot of stuff but like what we talked about like with Arnold. Obviously it worked wildly well for him.

28:09.29

Paul

Yeah I trained joints joint day.

28:19.77

Paul

There's. Yeah, of course.

28:27.28

christophknoll

So it's like make fun of it. But at the same time if you're curious give it a try like not the joking ones like obviously there's not a joint day but like you know front day back day like back to the body like give it a try. You never know.

28:34.90

Paul

Yeah.

28:42.66

Paul

Um, also I wanted to mention with a joint day thing for those of you that train your rotator cuffs or warm them up fucking stop. Please you're fucking killing me watching making doing that shit the gym I saw this dude yesterday he was he was ah. Training like hypertrophy kept increasingasing the weight on the cable machine for his first rotator cuffs I'm like dude stop stop. You're just hurting your shoulders and that's for that's me that's coming from me who has bad rotator cuffs because of motorcycle accidents and and training stupid when I was new the gym warm ups on rotator cuffs. Are not going to do anything trust me.

29:20.53

christophknoll

Yeah I mean there's the only like actually training them like if you're like you know baseball or quarterback and football and you actually need that like that like legitimately training them is different but um, actually just warming up with them. Yeah, stupid.

29:33.68

Paul

Well, there's nothing really necessarily to train The rotator cuff is a joint So when you're doing shit like this? Yes, yes so you could train the muscles around them like the best way to make your rotator feel rotator cuff feel better if you're if you have a bad rotator cuff.

29:36.64

christophknoll

It's well it's more. It's more the the muscles surrounding it That's more So my point.

29:52.57

christophknoll

Yeah.

29:52.92

Paul

Is to train your delts and your wong voids and your chest like that's the best way to make your rotator cuff feel better. Ah so just stop with the warm ups on them doing this shit or doing like you know this shit if you're watching the video like you know, just stop with the cable stop with the dumbbells. It's just it's not going to do anything. It's It's like. Training your wrist. You know you just can't like train a joint. It's it that doesn't work that way training your knees I give like a knee day you just you just like what would even a knee day look like like how would you even train that you just like.

30:22.59

christophknoll

You know you know when you go to the doctors and they test your reflexes with the hammer I take a dump a £5 dumbble and I just bash my knee.

30:33.00

Paul

No sensitivity for me. Ah, you can do like ah what those like ah grip squeezer things you put that in your leg and just like squeeze the fuck out of it and he's like knee.

30:40.91

christophknoll

Yep I feel like that that would be a hamstring movement at that point if you you talk about the inside of your knee like behind if you could that's load. That's that's just a leg curl.

30:46.80

Paul

If you 4

30:52.60

Paul

Yeah, yeah, you know you got a point. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm just I think like how could you train your knee I don't know.

30:57.57

christophknoll

That's literally just a light girl.

31:04.48

christophknoll

I I specifically train leg press but I put elastics that's circ that cut off the circulation so that ah all of my pressure is on my knee and and I just.

31:18.69

Paul

I do squats with my knees touching today.

31:18.73

christophknoll

Press from the knee.

31:27.58

Paul

Or like Ah, what's the other one I was gonna say I think like oh I do leg extensions but I hold onto my knee cap and don't let it move. It's double join it So I don't move.

31:27.95

christophknoll

Um, is.

31:41.88

Paul

And when I do leg extension that's all on my knees. But um.

31:44.35

christophknoll

Get into some kind of a machine where you you have a leg extension and then on the reverse it goes deep enough that you're now doing a ah like a hamstring curl and you just you just keep flipping it back and forth. Yeah.

31:58.91

Paul

Just like super fast knees all day shock the muscles. Ah so yes, so stop with the rotator cuff shit. Ah then to mentioned what I was mentioning earlier was ah Crossfit Crossfit is very yeah, not conducive.

32:14.24

christophknoll

Yeah, we've should on Crossfit so much so this should not be new to you guys.

32:14.89

Paul

Typically so oh yeah, so um, so for those that don't know at least the history of Crossfit it was invented in 2000 by a guy named Greg Glassman so Greg Glassman was based out of California I forget exactly what city and oh Santa Cruz actually okay so Crossfit is a brand right? crossfits a brand it' not It's not like it's a kleenex kleenex is a brand people say oh can I have a kleenex when they're talking about tissue you know, um. Or like a ziploc bag ziploc is a brand when you're talking about like a resealable plastic bag. So Crossfit is a brand It's not a necessarily a style of training. It's it's a brand. Um, so crossfit was invented by Greg Glassman the company was created by him. The reason he created it.

33:01.84

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

33:09.82

Paul

Believe it or not was actually because his gym was failing and he needed something to make a stand out. He needed some sort of you know new interest from the public in order to make a difference so he invented this training Stockle Crossfit which um. Has obviously been extremely successful which you know on a business standpoint good for him but the training style itself is all about um ah it's like a combination of yeah basically like using momentum any way you can. it's it's about

33:36.75

christophknoll

Doing exercises wrong.

33:46.23

Paul

Like how long can you train for with high interval training combined with like olympic weightlifting combined with like running and cycling and shit. It's like let's combine everything together for no reason and then also do it wrong is like the idea is kind of what Crossfit is in a sense.

33:59.98

christophknoll

Yeah.

34:05.70

Paul

You can essentially kind of make gains on Crossfit because crossfits a brand and like each dim will Vary. So I'm sure there are good Crossfit gyms out there that teach you how to train properly and teach you how to do pull-ups right? and all of that. But then there are like the bigger Like. Crossfit gyms where they will have you do kipping pull-ups and all these fucking weird Interval training like kipping pull-ups and then fucking wheel tosses and then they go have you do like the the 1800 carriage rope fucking waving thing that you can do and then. You know, pushing a slide and then going back and doing kipping pullups and shit. So That's a very unorthodox way to essentially ah train. It's it's not people get injured all the time doing Crossfit Ah, you know people get injured all the time doing other things like power liftfting Olympic weightlifting stuff like that.

34:58.98

Paul

Ah, but Crossfit people get injured because not because they lifted too hard or something like that. It's because they just it's a very bad way of training I just it's not built for the human body.

35:06.20

christophknoll

Well yeah, it's it's It's like when people get injured doing Olympic lifting or doing just you know, regular bodybuilding or anything like that. It's normally because we ego lift and we we go for a little bit more than we should and then.

35:17.63

Paul

Are.

35:22.34

christophknoll

If we didn't bring a spot or even if we have a spot. We fight them off and we're like trying to get that last rep and that's when we get injured but with Crossfit you intentionally put yourself in a situation where your body is far more likely to get injured because like like you brought up like the the kipping pull-up if anybody. Doesn't know what that is look what it is. It's like your body's like flailing in the air and your hands are the only thing attached to the bar and I mean that your hands are the only thing attached anyways. But I mean more so like when you do a normal pullup. You're you're very stabilized and you go with only the the your back that you're pulling from. Whereas what the kipling one. It's like you're just fucking thrashing around. It looks like a like a seal and how not a see a lot of water a um fuck what's the reference? Yeah, something out of what would think of any marine animal that shouldn't be out of water out of water fish out of water Jesus there's ah, there's the reference I was looking for but ah and.

36:04.90

Paul

Like a dolphin or something.

36:14.30

Paul

Um, yeah.

36:18.24

christophknoll

That's like that. Not at all you know, safe for your but or naturally safe for your body. So like because if you let go or is accidentally let go the bar when your body's momentum is but going forward. You're just flipping around and landing on your spine or on your neck. So.

36:33.66

Paul

Yeah, it's bad. Ah there are so the reason for kipping pull-ups you use they like Flail. They basically like flex their knees up so that when they do the pull up. It's using the least amount of energy possible. So the idea is. To be able to get as many pullups as possible and what they consider a pullup is anytime your chin is above the bar so a kipping pullup you use momentum in order to get your chin above the bar and do as many reps as possible so kipping pullups are really just kind of the joke now. Ah, as far as the fitness industry goes and ah really just training in general is it's what Crossfit's kind of known for now as kipping pullups. It's KiPP I n g kipping pullups ah so that's you know a problem there but then you know they got all these other training methods like using all all different kinds of kettlebell shit. Which kettle balllls have their use but they really overuse them I think ah personally like kettle ball swings can be good but when you're doing really anything else. Kettlebell it's very seldom. That's actually good. I think dumbbells for the most part can replace cat kettlebells in most situations. Um, you know Rose or ah.

37:48.59

christophknoll

The only movement I've used. Yeah, the only movement I've used a Kettlebe that is legit. Um is there's a shoulder movement called a pirate toss which is um, it's ah it's basically like um if you think about a ship like old ship.

38:05.80

Paul

Like.

38:08.43

christophknoll

And you have to get water out and you're just bucketing the water out it simulates that with the Kettlebell and because the handle is you're able to grip that and you don't have like a dumbbell you have the two sides so like hypothetically you could, but with the with the Kettlebell you can kind of get that that motion. Um.

38:26.11

Paul

No.

38:28.28

christophknoll

That's the 1 exercise that I allow myself I haven't done it in a while but it's the one exercise I allow myself to use a Kettle Bell but it also has that the forearm challenge you ever see that where you put the kettle ball flat down and you just try and flip it over and then.

38:37.67

Paul

Yeah I have seen that.

38:43.71

christophknoll

You know Brian Shaw did it and just flipped like the heaviest fucking one.

38:45.82

Paul

Yeah, there those people forget how strong those motherfuckers are until they step up to the to whatever challenge it is and it's like what the fuck Like'll I'll never be a done above but not beentunted by those guys. But yeah Kettlebells they have their place. They have their uses. It's just I think Crossheadt just kind of overuses them.

38:53.83

christophknoll

Yeah.

39:05.35

Paul

Ah, like I think kettlebell swings sometimes something like lunges or squats can be beneficial but the problem with Kettlebells too is that with the heavier they get the thicker. The grip is going to be so you can't like really go super heavy on the weight. Without having to fatigue your forearms at at a certain point where like dumbbells the thickness of like the the actual metal grip on the £200 dumbbell is very similar to a £100 dumbbell. It's not that much different if at all there is thickness differences in order to be able to support the weight. Of the actual dumbbell on the edges. But for the most part you don't really need to train grip much more in order to lift that weight besides just lifting it where the kettlebell like if you seen like a hundred pound cut cuttlebells. It's fucking thick like you can't get your hand around that fucking grit. So like that's a problem.

39:56.99

christophknoll

Yeah.

39:59.56

Paul

In my opinion as far as like I understand that it's because it needs to be able to support the weight but it's like that's what are the downfalls of the design of a kettlebell is you need to have that thicker grip so that can be a problem sometimes times too. But at the end of the day I think that there are much much better options than Crossfit. Ah, for for training there are a lot of ah group fitness classes group training classes. Ah my coach runs 1 um, he runs ah essentially like a fitness company kind of um, that. They host these kind of like events right? where they never even event but like ah these like training classes like jujitsu and stuff like that and they'll do like training classes and I've seen videos of it and they'll do interval training but they're using proper form. You know they'll do like pushups and then we'll go do pull-ups and then go do like curls. And then they'll do like a crunch like an ab crunch and they go back around. You know, um, an interval training does have a place I have done interval training in the past like tried it out. Not for it gains or anything. It's just like I just want to try it out one day and it is very difficult. Interval training is very difficult. It's very hard. And I can understand that there are performance benefits to it. It's this combination of the movements that crossfit does plus the interval training plus the damage that it does to your body. It is joints and all of that it just is not very conducive for aesthetics. It's now conducive for strength.

41:25.29

Paul

Ah, people argue performance over the long period of time. Potentially you know, potentially athletic performance as far as actually training in Crossfit so it's like it's like ah what's weird about it with Crossfit is that one of the things that I've come to notice over time is that with so when you're talking about bodybuilding in general. Stuff. You'll probably understand what I'm talking about here you this this will be a light bulb for you when you're training bodybuilding bodybuilding itself. Not power liftfting not olympic weightlifting bodybuilding the training style is very adaptable. It works with pretty much anything else. You know there's a lot of bodybuilding coaches Charles Glass is 1 of them who will train professional Nfl athletes Nba athletes stuff like that because it translates. Yes, we're focused on ah focusing on aesthetics. But at the end of the day. It also increases performance. It increases your ability to ah. Have more stabbing and more endurance it ah increases your ability to manipulate your body more? Um, so it translates much better. So when you're talking about even like power lifting and like a little bit of olympic weightlifting that kind of plays into like Nfl players. For instance, right. So you know, especially the linemen stuff like that who need to be able to push a lot more weight. They'll have those kind of trading methods the thing with Crossfit that's very weird to me is that you can't really use Crossfit to train for something else when you're talking about like training crossfit.

42:55.40

Paul

And you want to become better at Crossfit it's to compete in Crossfit. It's not to compete in something else. So you're talking about like oh there's like these giant like there's like videos of like these gigantic women who have like crazy abs and they're fucking leg. They massive going to compete in Crossfit and it's like that's what they've been training for.

42:59.26

christophknoll

Yeah.

43:14.72

Paul

Like they're not proportionate by any means their body is built only for a crossfit if they were to do something like a training session with a bodybuilder they would be exhausted because the the training style is very different just like me doing crossfit I would be exhausted doing crossfit just because my training style is different. But the thing is with with bodybuilding and with general fitness and training like a bodybuilder. It's very translatable. It's very adaptable where Crossfit is only for Crossfit which is annoying so and then it's also funny to me that people think that Crossfit is a spectator sport.

43:42.83

christophknoll

Yeah now I get that.

43:51.38

Paul

Like their reebo Crossfit games I'm like who the fuck is watching this. Why is this? Ah this is not a spectator sport I'm like what is happening.

43:56.42

christophknoll

Yeah, but on on the reverse side. What is this 100% a spectator sport that people give crap on is the strongman stuff that is one hundred percent spectator because once the those athletes get the adrenaline from the crowd and everything like.

44:05.80

Paul

Oh yeah.

44:15.66

christophknoll

It's just like twofold. The amount they can bring in terms of strength like the shaw classic the weird they have some of the weirdest lifts that you do there like have you seen? um ah shah posted a lot about it when it was in early stages of development and production was the ah the oh.

44:30.18

Paul

Yeah, the keg pressed the check take press thing. Whatever that he was building I was like I saw that I was like what the fuck is this for and then I said they're building for Brian Shawn I'm like oh okay, that makes sense they checked out.

44:33.74

christophknoll

The Keg The Keg Chest Yeah Keg press. Yeah yeah, well, but but they did it. They did it at the shaw classic. It was one of the one of the actual movements that you had to do to compete like.

44:48.99

Paul

Now.

44:53.12

christophknoll

Unlike like he was building one. How do you train for that other than than having one you know.

44:59.62

Paul

I Mean it's just it's just bench press but it's increasing weight over time. Um, what's funny is that when I saw that being built right? They were driving the kegs in I don't know if you remember this but there's a guy who is showing how it worked right and they would drop the kegs in from up top.

45:12.73

christophknoll

Yeah.

45:15.25

Paul

And for those that don't know there's almost like an s pattern to it. It's like this machine where so it's a standing bench press machine. There's an s pattern metal contraption behind so where they can drop kegs down into the machine so there's like a ladder like a platform that this guy is standing on and drops kegs like beer kegs but like empty kegs. Down into the machine so that increases weight over the time. So it's almost like adding a plate kind of to it. But it's more entertaining because it's a giant machine. It's these kegs and whatnot. But this guy who is testing it who like worked for the company is like I don't know if he's a strong man competitor power liftft or whatever you know he was doing a rep per keg and he got like 4 or five kegs in. And he was failing Brian Stacked the machine all the way up and was doing it for reps I'm like this is why I mean that's you know that's another argument. Why as a spectator sport because it's like you don't truly understand how strong these guys are until you see them compare to other people and we've talked about it before but it's I didn't.

45:55.16

christophknoll

Yeah.

46:06.76

christophknoll

Yeah.

46:10.83

Paul

Truly grasp how strong these motherfuckers were until that video of Eddie Hall in that machine. The chess press machine. That's when I truly grasped it because he did the one arm press and was smiling and laughing while he did it I'm like that's fucking dumb like that's.

46:20.34

christophknoll

Yeah, well another thing too with that is that Eddie and and Brian post so much content together and so little content with regular people that you think that they are just 2 dudes who look normal but.

46:30.85

Paul

Yes yeah yeah I think he's he's 6 4 six five but that's actually a problem for him. He's short compared to other strong men but he's tall as shit. So.

46:38.41

christophknoll

Brian is six nine or something like that and Eddie is six six or something like that and like so so yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly and it's like Jesus Christ

46:53.94

Paul

Yeah, you forget how big those motherfuckers are until like it's like de shan corta versus Brian Shaw when he gave him the trophy like that that went so viral because you don't realize how big straw meant like you have to bodybuilding for the most part.

46:58.90

christophknoll

Yeah Ha ha.

47:09.88

Paul

Like you no matter what height essentially, you can get into it right? like Sean Corria is the giant Killer he's like 5 4 or something like that. So like there's there's not many heights that you can't really compete in bodybuiling like like staff being six four you would have more difficulty competing because you have so much more height. But.

47:26.97

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah.

47:29.43

Paul

You can't like not competing it. You know like you. It's not because you're height. That's holding you back strong man you have to be like minimum six five in order to even think about competing because these guys have to be so fucking massive and put on all this muscle and size to even do the fucking training. So.

47:44.95

christophknoll

Which is why Eddie just broke the rules because he for what like 3 years was the strongest man like.

47:47.22

Paul

Like that's. Yeah, and he also talked about it in his in the documentary I forget if it was his documentary or like a strong man documentary I forget what is what it was I think it's just about strong men in general. He talked about how being six five he actually can't do it as long as the other guys because he has to eat. Same way had the same muscle and all of that. But because of that he's way more unhealthy because he's putting so much the same amount of size on a smaller frame so he has to call it early like he had to retire way sooner than everybody else did because of his height and that's just it's just how it goes you know it's just.

48:17.66

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

48:28.19

Paul

That's what he had to work with but because of that I think that's also part of the reason why he got the official world record deadlift is because he was a little bit shorter than like half Thor Bujornsen for instance where he had a shorter range of motion compared to half Thor. But if you put half if Dick half Thor who's like 6 9 6 10 dropping five inches I'd have my money in half Thor beaten Eddie in a deadlift all day but it just doesn't work that way. It's not the human body works. So um, but yeah's it is very weird to see them train that way like they got the like the haybell hey heyy yeah hayball walk or whatever like that shit's weird. Um.

48:49.87

christophknoll

Yeah.

49:03.52

christophknoll

Yep.

49:07.41

Paul

And then they got like the they got the um the ah I figure what to call it Well, there's that those are that's kind of unorthodox too and they got the kegs that they toss over the giant like bar. Um, but there's also the yeah the oak thing the log that they like get open over their head.

49:12.55

christophknoll

Sandbag tosses.

49:26.39

Paul

Like that shit is so fucking heavy. There is one vanarchy that you can train with at least they used to have one.

49:26.50

christophknoll

Yep, Well well be bjorn did the ah the the true viking challenge. Did you ever see that one.

49:40.16

christophknoll

there's there's there's a there's a viking challenge where he had to carry and it was only for 6 steps 6 steps and it was like a full fucking tree. It was like I forget how heavy it it weighed out to be but it was like a entire tree.

49:43.53

Paul

You know? well they maybe as worse in the public.

49:49.49

Paul

I.

49:58.60

Paul

Was it like ah a part of the those like Irish um.

49:58.72

christophknoll

And. I forget what it was but the the the like in myth it was like 6 steps and he did 6 steps or 5 steps or whatever it was. It might have been.

50:09.94

Paul

Um, yeah, was it part of the highland games. Do you know because that's want to say he did something with them recently like the highland games athletes because the highland games which takes place and I think Ireland is.

50:25.40

Paul

Kind of like a strawman competition but it's its own thing. It is a strength competition. It's the old strength competition. But um, it's a separate organization from the strongman competition. So I think I don't know if there was half thor or maybe Eddie somebody went to one of the like he did a collaboration with one of the highland games. Guys and they did the log toss and I think he just fucking whoever it was that was a strong man whether there's editor half or just didolish the guy who competed in the highland games like fucking not even close just first try just launched it. So um, it could have been something like that.

50:53.28

christophknoll

Yeah.

51:03.28

Paul

Potentially like 1 of their like things that they could compete in or something like 1 of the strengths that they do or one of the um one of the lifts that they do. But I'm not sure it's wild though. Hunting games is also pretty wild.

51:18.10

christophknoll

And a while back you mentioned the Mma guys. Um, there's a guy. It's a Russian name I'm never gonna be able to pronounce it but his his name is the wolf and he did a ah.

51:32.91

christophknoll

Ah, he posts a video of what his cold training looks like and as a person who does cold plunges you know I I I thought I was good but he's in like the middle of fucking Serbia where he lives and.

51:37.38

Paul

Um, me.

51:48.28

christophknoll

Or wherever it is um I say serbia because that's where I think of the most ho that one and he hops in a ice river like 1 that's flowing straight off a mountain. He hops in that and then to warm up he goes into the snowbank.

51:51.32

Paul

Tams that Chi may have yeah.

52:03.87

christophknoll

Like I like that that is and he and he covers himself in snow and that is how he warms up like that is like you're just like so different if you're doing that.

52:15.80

Paul

So Here's the other thing though with snow that people don't realize is that snow is a natural ah is a natural insulator so animals that live in snow environments have very thick coats not to keep the heat in it so that when. So that snow can attach like huskies if you've ever seen videos of huskies out in the snow they lay in the snow and they let themselves get covered in snow when it's snowing out and it's very warm. It actually warms you up. That's how igloos work right? because like even though you're surrounded by snow and ice. It's warm as hell in there because it's a natural insulator so that's probably like.

52:42.60

christophknoll

And yeah.

52:49.88

Paul

If I have some science behind him doing that and making it you know a natural insulator to warm him up after the cold plunge but I want to say yeah, he's in it for a while. Yeah, that's wild you got train for shit like that. But um.

52:55.70

christophknoll

But it's also he's in that river for like half the video too. it's it's wild

53:08.91

Paul

Yeah, there's some unorthodox shit out there cold plunges is. There's a lot of science behind it Saunas Yes, but only to a certain extent Um Saunas can be kind of useless a lot of time for recovery.

53:22.12

christophknoll

The best but the best usage is going 15 minutes of I think it's like one eighty in the sauna then 3 to 5 minutes of 40 something degree cold plunge and then back in the sauna for 5 minutes

53:36.90

Paul

Yeah, which it it yeah manipulates your body's temperature so that your body has to work differently to do that. It's like cold plunge like taking the cold shower part of the reason you get like an endorphin.

53:38.83

christophknoll

That is the best combo you can do right there.

53:54.55

Paul

Rush Dopamine hit is because when you come out your body almost kind of like goes into a fight or flight and then you survive it essentially and ah when you come out, You're also warmer like you could come out of like a coal plunge in the winter for instance and you'll feel warm because your body has downregulated its temperature I mean you know all this stuff I'm just. Down Regulated is temperature so far that it's now overproducing heat So you end up being warm outside the cople no matter of the temperature. So. It's a very interesting ah dynamic that your body has with this body temperature which we have talked about before which is ah.

54:29.86

christophknoll

And I'll be. We'll be able to do a pretty darn good episode on that come this December so because in November I'm moving into a lake house and.

54:31.91

Paul

You know, thermal regulation and all that.

54:46.81

christophknoll

So in the winter when it freezes over I'm going to drill a hole and do my coal plunge and be warmer when I get out of it. Yeah, every morning every morning I Love it I'm so ready.

54:53.40

Paul

You're gonna do it in the lake. Oh it's gonna be rough I Just want to freezer I Just want to freezer with ice or water and then just break the ice up. That's what I want to get eventually just fill it with water and just break up the ice.

55:01.84

christophknoll

Yeah. And then have a whole pig delivered to your house like J Cutler

55:12.57

Paul

I could afford that absolutely are you shittting me I mean not pigs necessarily but a cow or something I do want to go hunting I do want to learn how to hunt once once I have some land I do want to learn how to hunt and hunt venison and shit have some have plenty of Venice I want to ah but want to have a whole meat fridge and I also.

55:16.74

christophknoll

Yeah.

55:29.66

Paul

A dry ager I want a dryaging fridge too I would love one and a smoker and all of that I want to really get into meat one day. But um, that's down the road I'm in an apartment they don't even like fucking grills. Let alone the rest of that shit. So I'll dive into that then but um, there's a video.

55:32.25

christophknoll

Ah.

55:41.84

christophknoll

Yep.

55:46.60

Paul

Got to move it back to what I say about the raw carnivore diet this video this guy eating like straight like liver straight like cows liver and um, straight beef and all of that oh I did see this video last night where it show the differences between a placenta of. A vegetarian or vegan and then ah, a placenta of someone who eats healthy and ah so the placenta is what goes around them is what protects the baby. Essentially it's what the baby is inside of in your room and I want to say when they get birth the placenta comes out I believe. Um, so it's not like no these 2 people are dead. It's just the the placentas were essentially donated to the hospital or something like that and some people eat the placentas which makes you want to throw the fuck up thinking about. But anyways, there's.

56:26.79

christophknoll

Yeah.

56:36.35

christophknoll

Yep.

56:37.30

Paul

There's vegans. There's a vegan one and there's a meat eater 1 and at first glance, you think oh the meat eer 1 looks terrible. It's like a super deep red like almost like dark dark red and like almost looks unhealthy, but then when the doctor's talking about it. It's way more healthy. It's way thicker. It's ah, there's much better blood to to flow throughout. The color shows that it's much more healthy like there's not There's not as much oxidation There's also this I think it's calcification or something is what she said the other placenta was doing the vegetarian one was so it's like almost like hard and brittle and doesn't have much fat to it. It's not very healthy. So it's like she goes to show. She's like when you're like regardless how how you want to live your life on your own terms if you're pregnant you in my opinion you need to focus on the health of the baby regardless of your opinions of things. So if meat is what's healthier for the baby.

57:27.79

christophknoll

Yeah.

57:34.91

christophknoll

I agree.

57:34.98

Paul

Then Eat fucking meat fuck your morals fuck your ethics. All of that. It's not about you anymore. It's about the baby and if the baby needs meat and the baby wants. Whatever you're craving certain thing give into it. It's Fine. You know they need that So like showing the differences between a vegetarian birth placenta and a meat eater. Like not even unless you're like a carnivore. It's just like a healthy diet with Meat. You can so clearly see the difference So these you know ways of eating veganism is not a way to eat. We're not supposed to be eating that Way. Ah and that just right there that goes to show it and I'm also a big advocate of.

58:09.32

christophknoll

Yep.

58:14.49

Paul

You know, still exercising when you're pregnant taking plenty of magnesium glycinate stuff like that is could I help a lot more with the healthiness of your overall body and the baby's body as well. So just this whole diet fucking bullshit about veganism and whatnot and this died down over the years um now it's almost like we're going in the other direction where. Eating unhealthy is becoming the norm you know with all these like plus size models and shit where like being big and being morbidly obese is like okay literally like there's this video I saw recently she goes this lady goes into different stores in the mall and says do you guys have plus size.

58:42.53

christophknoll

Look at a.

58:54.40

Paul

Clothing and they say we go up to two x excel every single store pretty where she goes she says she goes to goes up to two excel and she can't wear 2 excel and I'm like to like.

59:03.60

christophknoll

Which is super reasonable by the way for the for the for the places to have to only go up to 2 x if anything I would even say like not even that much. Yeah.

59:08.98

Paul

Yeah we're talking. Yeah, we're talking like h and m air apostle like Jc Penny was like big brand name stores right? and they all went up to like two excel. Um I think one of them said like. Think it was Navy Old Navy said some things we go up to 3 xl but most but everything else everything is minimum to excel but some things are threel and she ends up leaving all upset and I'm like threel is not plus size That's you're morbidly obese like this that a problem that's not a.

59:43.70

christophknoll

Yeah.

59:47.22

Paul

If nobody if no store carries your clothing. That's a problem like.

59:50.80

christophknoll

2 x's are for like people who are just tall because people who are tall carry more weight like that's literally what it was designed for yeah.

59:58.86

Paul

Yeah, they're they're longer. Yeah, they're wider. They're long everything every aspect of every piece piece of clothing is bigger. You know so it's just.

01:00:07.67

christophknoll

That's why people ah people crop things all the time when that when they're obese because like you're buying something and it's drape. It's gonna drape so far down because it's built for someone who's taller and you're just wide a little choad.

01:00:19.55

Paul

Yeah, damn big toe like a motherfucker but ah yeah, know it's just it's a problem and I think that's kind of the direction. We're seeing it go in is that we're seeing it go in the opposite direction where like early 2010 s was like all veganism vegetarian.

01:00:26.41

christophknoll

Ah.

01:00:36.39

Paul

All this shit right? like everybody go in that direction. But now it's going the opposite direction where like eating unhealthy and just being happy in your skin or whatever it just is the norm you know and that's not it shouldn't be that way so we'll see what happens. Um I think it's these people are going to. They got to recognize it at some point but that's a whole other conversation from the other day. But at the end of the day I think there are some unorthodox training methods weird training splits and all of that really just do whatever works for you? Ah, but also avoid injuries and that's why I'm a big person against Crossfit not interval training not necessarily all the movements that they do just simply just. Potential for injuries. So I will see you guys. Thanks for listening see ye.

01:01:16.83

christophknoll

Yeah I are y'all. We'll be ah, we'll be catching you guys next week then peace.


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