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HGH #59 - How to Interpret Blood Test Results

Speaker 0 00:00:00

Sir. Welcome. Welcome to another episode.

Speaker 1 00:00:06

New new blood tests, Derek Onesford Natural.

Speaker 0 00:00:10

Is he? Does SYNTHOL pop up in your blood tests find out here exclusively?

Speaker 1 00:00:17

Mister Beast, not natural.

Speaker 0 00:00:21

Of all people that would be natural, I'm telling you mister Beast is natural. He's the most natural.

Speaker 1 00:00:26

Well, I I only bring him up because he's doing a thing with Derek Onesford. That's why I

Speaker 0 00:00:31

Oh, did he really?

Speaker 1 00:00:34

Prior to the Olimpia, mister Beast had a, like, a mini video with with Derek Waynesford, and it was, like, hey, if you win the Olympia, you have to come to my gym, but I will let you put me through whatever workout you want.

Speaker 0 00:00:48


Speaker 1 00:00:48

And so once we're just won the Olympia, so some I I know the video's already out yet, but mister Beast is gonna be just decimated by a once for

Speaker 0 00:00:59

That's crazy.

Speaker 1 00:01:00

Work out. That's awesome.

Speaker 0 00:01:03

That's that's really cool that he's able to do that. And he's bringing obviously more like, I guess, publicity to to bodybuilding in general. So that's pretty good.

Speaker 1 00:01:15

Yeah. I mean, mister beast is arguably the most well known human on the planet right now. Yeah. Like, for better or worse, but But yeah. Derek wants for it, as we know, is a all natural body builder. Mister beast is a high using steroid abuser, so that that kinda checks out, you know.

Speaker 0 00:01:34

Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Absolutely. It's it's not ninety, meaning, Maddie. Mister Beast being the not Maddie.

Speaker 1 00:01:42

Yeah. For real. I mean, you can tell by their physique

Speaker 0 00:01:45

clearly. The clearest day, come on. But we've figured, especially with everything going on with me as of late as far as, like, PCT and all that. Now that I got the bulk of my the bulk of my blood tests back, figured we could just go over that. I haven't gotten all of it back I'm missing basically my IGF one test free dialysis and test total estradiol responses, all of that. So that's the really the only thing that I'm waiting at. On at this point. Which which makes sense? I mean, at the end of the day, it's the the hormone is gonna take the longest to to test out. But we can go over like kind of what the the different meanings are for different things on your blood test so that you can kind of understand better? Because I think that understanding your how to relatively read blood tests to see, like, if you have any issues or even along those lines, it's gonna be very important because, you know, if you go to get I think everybody should be get tested. Every every single guy should go get tested. I think at least once a year. Just a hormone panel to see where they're at, whether or not your body build or not whether or not you take, you know, anabolic or not, it don't matter. Matters, it's just that you just keep track of it. That way, if your body does decline and test, or up in oxygen or something like that, you can catch it ahead of time and compensate accordingly. So with that being said, let me go ahead and try share my screen here. Now I gotta turn on the settings for it. Damn it. Well, I

Speaker 1 00:03:41

was gonna say even before that if you want to because you you have your blood test and it's not all there. So I was going to even say start with what that process looks like in terms of how long it takes, how it's chunked out. Essentially how long it takes for everything.

Speaker 0 00:03:59

Yeah. So it depends. A lot of the interest to that is it depends. So Typically, there there's been two sources I've gotten my lab test from. One is called private MD labs and the other one is Merrick Health. Merkel has run by at least finance. I don't know who actually runs it, but is Derek for more plates, more dates, is behind it. Keywords for the clinic to make that happen. So, you know, I've gotten it through them. And then I've also gotten it through private and d labs. It's just a separate company. I don't really know who runs it, nothing like that. The reason I go to these people is because you can buy hormone panels which a panel is just like a I guess it's like a gist of things. Right? You're It's not You're not measuring for just one thing, you're measuring for multiple things. So it's it's called the panel. Who's like a panel of judges? It's not one judge. It's a panel. You know? So I go to them for it. The reason I go back and forth is depending on sales really. At the end of the day, it doesn't really make a difference. I I mean, I prefer Merrick personally. I feel that the results come in quicker and they also draw less blood. But at the same time, there's quite a big difference between two hundred and fifty dollars for a panel and a hundred fifty dollars for a panel. Has it just cut out for a second? So That's the reason I went to private m d labs because they had a black Friday sale. I said, screw it. We'll buy it now. And then went ahead and and just got it then. So with that being said, I I got my private MD labs back, and and turnaround time can depend. Sometimes it's quick, sometimes it's long. So for Merrick Health, I would probably say, like, a couple days with private MD labs, it's more like four or five days. They do take a little bit longer. But really, like I said, I mean, the the General blood markers were gonna be going over today. I got basically the night I did it. So they received it December fourteenth, which actually doesn't make any sense. Yeah. The the morning of December fourteenth, I they like, It's like twelve thirty midnight just half hour after midnight on the fourteenth of December is when they got it. I don't I gave them my blood on the thirteenth at noon. So it took me about twelve hours to get it, but then about four hours after they got it, they sent me we're gonna be talking about today. Everything else is taking a little bit longer. And also not surprised considering the fourteenth is a Friday. So if it's gonna take them more than one day, it's probably gonna not not gonna be till Monday or Tuesday chances are. So we'll we'll just go over that today and kind of what each thing means. But really from the most part, the thing to keep in mind with with what we're going over today is you know, one of there's a lot of nuance here. This is there's a lot of genetics that play a factor. There's a lot of lifestyle factors that could play a role into what my blood markers look like. There's also, you know, anabolic use in the past that plays into it. But for the most part, we're gonna be seeing today is pretty normal actually. I'm really happy with my results from the blood test. Everything is pretty much checking out. And it'd be pretty healthy. Nothing is ridiculous. So excuse me. Oh, yeah. We'll just go over that. I think that'll be pretty informative.

Speaker 1 00:07:45

Yeah. And that's pretty quick turnaround time. So you're able to get that information pretty quickly.

Speaker 0 00:07:49

So Yeah.

Speaker 1 00:07:50

For viewers, basically, once you learn how to read it, you can basically take care of that within, I mean, within just a couple days and know right away what if something's wrong or not if you're healthy, like how to just continue to improve.

Speaker 0 00:08:04

Yeah. Yeah. So here, let me share my screen now. Let's see. That's one. There we go. Okay. So this is what we're looking at here. For my blood test results. We go ahead and zoom in a bit more. You guys can see it a bit easier. So this is just full transparency, basically. Right? So a lot of people don't really go over their blood tests in the way that, you know, I will be today. So basically where we can start is we'll start let's go back up to page one. So this is page this is the first page of it. This is kind of what it looks like. It it looks like a lot if you don't know what you're looking at. You're like, wow. There's a lot going on here. Well, I don't know what really any of this fucking means to be honest. So essentially where you can start, right, is your thyroid panel. Right? So what your thyroid does essentially is it's all comes on to digestion really and and, you know, I've talked about in the past how I've taken t three and t four to help with you know, losing fat during my prep phase. So the good thing about your thyroid, if you don't have any hypothyroidism or any remove thyroid or anything like that, is your thyroid works on a feedback loop. So your thyroid is is a very versatile I guess you could say kind of like an organ. So thyroid produces its own hormones and a feedback loop is where in the case that I'm taking, you know, I I did take essentially like it's endogenous hormones that you produce naturally, but I'm taking it synthetically essentially, I'm I'm adding it, you know, that was what makes it non natural. But because it works on a feedback loop after roughly two weeks off of it, your thyroid kicks right back on. You don't need to do any sort of PCT or anything like that. You don't need to kick everything back on with additional supplements. It just does it on its own. So right here, micrograms per deciliter is the unit a measurement for your thyroid micrograms per deciliter. A lot of what you'll see in in blood tests is desi leaders. Sometimes you'll see leaders sometimes you'll see milliliters. It just it it depends on what they're measuring. But typically, decilators are what we're looking at. So for Gessi Leer, putting it up right now, the exact measurement. So one deciliter is one tenth of a liter. So deciliter is a it's a good chunk of blood actually. It's not you're not talking about, like, nothing, you know. So but really the the key thing to be looking at outside a deciliter is the actual measurement itself. They give you a reference range, and the reference range is what's considered normal. So four point nine to ten point five micrograms per deciliter, is what's considered normal range for your t four, thyroxine total. So five point nine for me is right in that smack dad middle, nice and healthy right now. T three uptake, so just your t three. It's a percentage range. Percentage of your total thyroid. So looking at thirty one, and it's right in that range. So pretty happy with that. TSH levels right in the middle as well. So TSH, obviously, just another form of thyroid hormones t three t four and t s h. With that being said, your lipid panel is one of arguably one of the most important ones. The reason I say that is because your your lipids can point directly to potentially underlying issues and potentially future issues. So the reason you'll see blue numbers here out of range out of range for triglycerides, LDL, HDL, stuff like that. Part of it is because genetics. Cholesterol plays a big role with genetics or vice versa. Genetics plays a big role with cholesterol. So I have cholesterol issues, I believe, in my family, and it goes pretty far back as far as I know. So what you're looking at here is just a measurement of my cholesterol. Really, like, we can help it. There have been things we've done in the past to to get this in a better place. So so not is it not a non HDL, LDL, and then HDL cholesterol. So HDL is I wanna say it's the good cholesterol, then LDL is the bad cholesterol. Always get those mixed up. Let me just make sure. Yeah. So LDL is considered bad cholesterol. And then Asia is considered good. So my Asia deal is in a good place, which is good because we've measured it before and my Asia was like, five milligrams per deciliter. Like, it was like nothing. So the reference range is greater than or equal to forty milligrams per deciliter. I've had it in single digits. And there wasn't really anything we were doing, honestly, that necessarily put us in that place. It's just for some reason, my cholesterol just tanked. And we are able to fix it pretty quickly. And then, you know, getting another blood test after a couple weeks of remedying it But as far as LDL goes, this one's saying less than a hundred milligrams per deciliter is the reference range. For primary prevention. And then it says less than seventy for diabetic patients or CHD. So what we're looking at here is it's high. That's for sure. It's a little a little high actually. It's it's kinda high. But again, I think that that partially plays a role with genetics. Nothing we're eating right now that would really affect that. And that's the other common misconception with cholesterol too is that dietary cholesterol plays a role into your blood marker cholesterol, the cholesterol on your blood. That's not true at all. Cholesterol on your food, dietary cholesterol is very, very different from cholesterol on your blood. So don't believe that. Just look at your blood markers. That's really what matters. The cholesterol you eat won't directly affect your cholesterol in your blood. Maybe indirectly, but not directly. A lot of people try to think that, like, cholesterol translates one to one when your blood in that's not. It's not the case. We'd be dead probably. And then moving on, so it's Metabolic Panel.

Speaker 1 00:14:57

But basically Mhmm. Basically from, like, black and white perspective. If you're looking at this and something is out of range, that's something you should invest feet is more of the point you're making?

Speaker 0 00:15:11

Yeah, essentially. So anytime that it's blue on this, some of the ones I think it's, like, red you know, there's different colors and the way they actually present it is a little bit different. But for the most part, if if it's out of range, you wanna know why, you know. And I think really just my triglycerides, my cholesterol really just so my lipids are just out of range. And I think really all that comes down to is we could theoretically make a dietary change. Yes. But at the same time, I think a lot of it is genetics, you know, is you're just pre I'm predisposed to it. So you know, that's something we gotta we gotta work with. But it's for the most part, I'm pretty happy with the results we got out of my cholesterol even. I mean, forty seven HDL, that's pretty good. I mean, usually I sit like right at forty. Like, there's been multiple blood tests I've gotten where every single blood test was thirty nine. Milligrams per deciliter. Like, I was just under the reference range. So see it at forty seven, I'm pretty happy about. Obviously, my LDL could use some work, but, you know, that's something that we can we can take a look at and see if we can adjust something. Or to fight that, you know. It's more preventative. Like, that's what this is saying. So the desirable range is less than one hundred milligrams for primary prevention. Future issues. So it's not like you go over a hundred, all of a sudden, you're gonna fucking go to the hospital. It's just like, you should have it under a hundred to avoid future issues. You know? So that's that's what we gotta take into account. Is a lot of these are preventative, just for general health, really. That's what a lot of these, like, reference ranges are. And something to keep in mind. So down here that we're looking at now is the comprehensive metabolic So metabolic is really just essentially all the vitamins and minerals that are in your body. A lot of these down here, sodium potassium assume chloride, carbon dioxide, all this is pretty standard measurements. So this goes on to AST and ALT, which we'll get into in a minute. But pretty much everything right here is comprehensive metabolic. There's just a lot of, like I said, of vitamins, minerals, and I don't really pay too too much attention to this. As long as they're in the normal range, that's all it matters to me. This is just general health is basically what just this means. Up here.

Speaker 1 00:17:42

He only has he only has seven protein get bigger bro.

Speaker 0 00:17:47

Yeah. Yeah. That's that's all I that's I have seventy seven protein. That's what I have. No. But wish they would measure protein. That'd be kinda interesting. I wonder how

Speaker 1 00:17:57

much No. It it does. It's it's lower.

Speaker 0 00:17:59

Oh, protein total. Okay. I was gonna say I didn't I didn't think that they did. Cool. Seven point six grams per desi heater. Interesting. Alright. Yeah. Goes to tell you, I don't really pay attention to my my minerals down here, my my minerals. But the one I really look at is these ones up here. Well, that really early JFR. More more so crowded. Not only nitrogen, but really glucose and creatinine are good measurements to take a look at. So glucose, obviously, is just glucose in your blood. Glucose is the issue with diabetics, really, whether or not you produce it, or if you have high glucose So like so sixty five to ninety nine is considered reference range. If you're under sixty five, that's you can kind of consider like type one diabetes. Right? You're born with it. Your body just does not produce insulin. It's really what glucose kind of is. It's just insulin. Your body doesn't produce insulin. So when you when you know anybody who has type one diabetes, and they have to take an insulin shot or something is because their insulin has fallen. And I really feel for anybody who has type one diabetes because you're bored with it. There's nothing you can do about it. There's no cure. You just have to live with it. And it is a fucking bitch to live with. So I have all are respected in the world for people with type one diabetes. You have to constantly manage it. You have to constantly think about it. The treatment for it is extremely expensive. Which is really just insulin. Insulin is just extremely expensive. And at least from what I've heard, it's very expensive. And At the same time, you have to watch what you eat. You have to eat very specifically because if you have too much sugar, you're gonna you're gonna have an issue with too much glucose in your blood because your body can't balance it out. So if you don't have diabetes, you're very, very fortunate. With that being said, my glucose has always been kind of an issue. It's always been kind of on the high higher end. There's been times where I've measured my glucose and between sixty five and we'll just say a hundred is healthy. Right? I've measured it at like one hundred and fifteen or something, which is heavily considered pre diabetic. So type two diabetes is you could essentially say you ate yourself into diabetes where your body just stops producing as insulin. But The difference with type two diabetes is you can manage it just with food, really. It's like basically if you eat yourself into diabetes, type two that is you can manage it with food, which really just means losing weight. And then you can actually essentially cure yourself with food. You can actually get your body back to in producing insulin, and if you manage it well enough. So it's type two diabetes, is more so a there's a word for it. It's like smokers. Like you're like you're kinda doing it to yourself in the long term.

Speaker 1 00:21:12

Yeah. And that's what I was gonna say. Just for reference, this is just if you put yourself in that situation. If you have like genetic, like, predisposed, you know, diabetes, that's a different story. That is a

Speaker 0 00:21:24

Exactly. Story. Yeah. You're you're born with it. I mean, some people don't find out they have diabetes until, like, you know, they're toddlers or whatever it is. It might be, like, laid onset diabetes. But for the most part, if you have type one, it was not your fault. You did nothing wrong. It's just the way your body's built. And, I mean, I went to school with someone with it and all respect to them for it. You know, they always had their their meter on them. Like, I went to high school with a few people actually, and some preferred the shots individually. Some preferred the meter just to say on them. So there's there's a lot technologies come a long way. And essentially, when when we were talking diabetes and the reason I'm bringing this up because your glucose really does play a huge role. Like, your glucose in your blood is very, very important. So when you see someone who has one of those meters on their on their hip, and there's that IV tube kind of going into them. That zoom is insulin. So you have a little bit of insulin in that little meter thing. And what that thing does is it constantly measures your blood glucose. And if your blood glucose is off or it's low, it'll inject insulin to your bloodstream. That way, you're fine constantly. So some people prefer the meters. They don't have to think about it. They just gotta live their life and then they're done. But you always have an IV in your system. Right? You'll always have something fucking plugged into you. So people were frustrated.

Speaker 1 00:22:42

There's also Mhmm. I was gonna say there's also the new one that goes right in your try up. It's the Yes. It's like the the it's almost like a I I see it like a nicotine sticker almost. Like, the the same look almost and that, like, beeps or something when you're down low or something like that.

Speaker 0 00:23:02

I wanna say they have a few versions of that where Like, there's one that'll beep. And I think there's probably ones that hook up to your phone, like, through Bluetooth, I think, as well. I'll tell you that way. But, yeah, those just read your glucose. And so a lot of people who have those that even actually have insulin issues. A lot of people who have those are like health nuts and shit. Who wanna keep their glucose, like, exactly at the same spot. You know, like, there's there's so many, you know, like, and I really I wouldn't say, like, imrose. Like, there's some people who are just hyper obsessed about their health. And I watched the dark more, you know, more place, more dates podcast video. I watched, like, twenty minutes of it. I just wanted to see a few different topics this guy covered. And he was one of those people. He's been immersed in his whole life. You know, he he just very, very, like, obsessed with health markers and and making sure your body is operating the way it should be. And he takes an insane amount of vitamins and supplements and shit. Like, it's just it's unbelievable. Like, I I lost track of how many he was taking. I mean, probably like twenty different vitamins a day. But he said he likes to keep his glucose in a specific range. Whatever it is, let's say it's like seventy three to seventy five. These people will figure out what glucose range they feel the best in. Like, their life is so meticulously planned out. And like regimented that the slightest change in glucose, they say they feel a difference. So they find the range that makes them feel the best. They keep that meter on their arm and they stay in that range. It's it's weird. It's a weird way to live to me. I I I don't believe in shit like that. I think your body needs junket, I think your body needs to adapt and and fight off, you know, evil things in its system. And you should not be given your body everything that it needs twenty four seven. I think personally.

Speaker 1 00:24:55

I was gonna say even from, like, the gym perspective, having it, like the I I keep saying tricep because that's the only place I've seen them Yeah. To make sure there's other places that they can go. But from the gym perspective, like, you you like, ideally, and I mean, maybe it's just the body builder style workout or or even like power lifters. But you you abused your tricep. Like, they're they're used on multiple different lifts, you know. And so my worry is that you you're just gonna pump so gnarly that it pops off. Like, what

Speaker 0 00:25:31


Speaker 1 00:25:31

That's the move.

Speaker 0 00:25:32

Yeah. It's possible. I mean, you might may need to remove it or something. I'm sure that, like, the actual needle or whatever it is that's on the inside of that isn't that deep. I'm sure it's, like, just past skin level. So probably doesn't really hurt to put it on. He probably just stick it on. He might might feel like a tiny, tiny pinch, but, yeah, that could get him in the way. Yeah. I could definitely get in the way of training. And at the same time, like, when you're in the gym, like, I wanna be worrying about my fucking glucose levels when I'm in the gym, you know, like, I don't I try not to think about my glucose glucose levels, to be honest. As long as they're healthy.

Speaker 1 00:26:09

It's like It's it's like the Paul Blair Molkup. If if I pass out at Vanarke, I'm gonna find a lollipop on the ground somewhere crawl over to it. And That's all. Yeah. I know. Back up and going.

Speaker 0 00:26:23

All the lid and they didn't shit on it. Whatever it was, like, oh, that was nasty. But that's that's type two. That's type two diabetes.

Speaker 1 00:26:31

He did

Speaker 0 00:26:32

it in your past house and he didn't have any glucose in his system. That's what he needed to sugar. Yep. And and that's also why you'll see, like, diabetics carrying, like like fucking sour patch kids or something because it's

Speaker 1 00:26:44

so Pixie sticks.

Speaker 0 00:26:45

Yeah. Pixie sticks like shit like that. It's so fast digesting. It's immediately in their system. So that's where he did that lollipop. Also,

Speaker 1 00:26:54

Busted. He's got game.

Speaker 0 00:26:55

Busted. Busted. It's the best snack. I'll have, like, three or four

Speaker 1 00:26:58

of them. It's a pre gym snack.

Speaker 0 00:27:01

Yeah. Busted. This are even count. This is ancient in my bloodstream. I don't even count.

Speaker 1 00:27:08

This is to supplement my glucose levels nerd.

Speaker 0 00:27:11

Yeah. This is why it's at seventy seven. Look. Nerd. You know, I use your sour patch kids. But yeah. So glucose is very important. Glucose, if you're high, it's pre diabetic. And if you're low, it's pre diabetic true pre diabetic. It it's like your your blood pressure, you know, blood pressure you should be in specific range. If it's higher, if it's low, that's an issue. So seventy seven, where it's at, it actually surprised me not gonna lie because I've always been, like, minimum ninety. Like, even, like, in prep, I'm pretty sure, like, I didn't dip below, like, eighty five. And that was like, we're talking like fourteen hundred calories a day and almost none of that was carbs. So I'm surprised at that seventy seven. I guess just my insulin sensitivity is through the roof. And whenever we talk about insulin sensitivity, really just means it's your blood glucose essentially just is very variable. So If it's low like this, that means it's probably just low at the time of the blood reading. It is probably not that low typically, which means my insulin sensitivity is very high right now. And therefore, if I take in any carbs, I should notice a difference with them. You know? So whatever I have before the gym is gonna directly affect my energy in the gym. That's what insulin sensitivity means. And then if you have a lot of carbs, it should up to your digestion as well.

Speaker 1 00:28:32

Here's You know, I'm kind of I'm kind of thinking that come PR time. You know, some people do spelling salts.

Speaker 0 00:28:39


Speaker 1 00:28:40

Missed me with that. Give me a pixie stick and let me get under that bar.

Speaker 0 00:28:44

A pixie stick a little of the nose. Just a I just shot the system. The rest of your mouth, like, both

Speaker 1 00:28:50

of them. You know how if you're training alone, like and you need, like, spot or maybe just like someone to, like, yell at you to get, like, your adrenaline going or something like that.

Speaker 0 00:28:59


Speaker 1 00:29:00

You're like, hey, bud, can you come over and just throw this sugar in, like, this powder sugar in my face when I when I'm, like, halfway up the lip.

Speaker 0 00:29:07

Waste in past six weeks.

Speaker 1 00:29:09

No. Right. I was like,

Speaker 0 00:29:13

Yeah. He's, like, blunt. He's, like, you know, you saw, like, choking up a load.

Speaker 1 00:29:21

But you got the lift up.

Speaker 0 00:29:22

That's what matters. You might you might almost die, but that's what matters.

Speaker 1 00:29:27

New box.

Speaker 0 00:29:29

So the next one is creatinine. Creatinine is a good measurement to take a look at because creatinine is essentially the I guess you could say, like, wasted muscle that's in your liver essentially. It's it's what your liver is digesting as muscle. So right now, it's it's a one point two four milligrams per deciliter. It's a waste product. Of muscle that's in your bloodstream, that your kidneys filter, not your liver, your kidneys. So, recur myself. So really, creatinine is just a good measurement. Typically, bodybuilders will see a higher number here. And usually, it's I wanna say it's out of range. Typically, I think let me see if I can find yeah. That's my PDF. As a look at my other blood test results. I wanna say it's out of range Let me log in to get my other blood test results. But yeah. So this really just means that your body is digesting muscle through your kidneys, and then you just end up peeing it out is really what ends up happening. So let me let me see if I could pull up my other test results and and I'll show you guys, like, a previous test and what the creatinine look like there. Alright. Let's see. So my creatinine holy shit. Alright. This is a good example of Let me open up. I don't know if it's this one. I think it's this it might be this one. Yeah. Here we go. Okay. So I'll put this over here. Let me share that that PDF there. Alright here. So this is a previous blood test result. This is peaks this is like middle of cycle. Right? So this is, you know, thirty nine glucose. Right? Create in one point two one. So the reference range has actually changed since I got this. So now the reference range is point six to one point two four is a reference range where here it's one point two one. Right now it's one point two four. I think part of the reason for that is because I'm not taking anything anabolic wise, so it's not already, like, affecting my, you know, muscle waste or anything like that. It's it's I'm wasting away as as much as I normally would. So, essentially, what we're looking at. We're here to check check this out. So this is what peak cycle. It's what peak cycle looks like. Right? I'll show you an example. So as you dial ultra sensitive. This is basically just your estrogen. Right? So it's picograms per milliliter. So picograms and milliliters are both smaller measurements? In this two year. Let me see. The difference in size between a microgram versus if that's a nanogram. So one milligram right here. So you're gonna see this. One milligram is a thousand picograms. Right? So eleven is right in the normal range. It's anything under twenty nine picogram is per milliliter is what's best for men. Granted milliliter is also a much smaller measurement, a deciliter. So you gotta take that into account when you're doing the measurements. But at the end of the day, what matters at this normal? Then you got Here we go. But a but a boom. I was taking tests at the time. You could see that for sure right there. Twenty four hundred people. No. That's this natural deal. Dude, this is this is one hundred percent natural. See, so when I present this to Bradley Martin, I'd be like, dude, I was just taking a clover feed. That's all I was doing. That's not that's natural. It just it it lowers your estrogen, so therefore, increase your testosterone because that's how it works. If you lower one, you increase the other. Huddl. That's how the human body works. It's a seesaw. That was sarcasm, guys, by the way. That was all sarcasm. That's not how the human body works. It's almost like everything is almost separate from each other. Your I mean, you you take testosterone, your estrogen's gonna go up. Yes. But your estrogen could go up regardless if you take testosterone or not. And vice versa, your estrogen could go down. If you're not taking it, your test could go up. If you are an estrogen, it just depends on your body's aromatization. With that being said, this is the fun number. This awesome three, that's a good number.

Speaker 1 00:34:30

That's also natural.

Speaker 0 00:34:31

That is one hundred percent natural clearly based off of the the reference ring of anywhere from seven to twenty times the normal range. So testosterone free is the number you want to be looking at. I wanna say my normal test is usually around, like, fifty or sixty, maybe seventy at the most, picograms per milliliter. But testosterone free or your free test is directly what translates essentially into muscle gains. So the higher free tests than what most gains you're gonna make. So it's pretty cool to see that on this test because I'm like, oh, when I saw that, I was like, I'm fucking gonna be growing from this shit. So this is I definitely had an interesting number to take a look at. You know, red blood my red blood cell count is always high, which will go over in a second. Platelets always good.

Speaker 1 00:35:31

So, like, here's

Speaker 0 00:35:32

excuse me. So, like, here, look look, thirty nine. I told you bucket thirty nine every time. Was thirty nine so many game times. One forty eight here, my other let me check my other and my LDL was at one thirty five. Right here, it's one forty eight. So at the time, my cholesterol was sitting in a in a worse place much worse worse place actually than now because this is thirty nine, then where now is forty seven for HDL and then LDL is one forty eight, then where now it is one thirty five. So much better place now for cholesterol. Not any show cholesterol was high. So for the most part, the difference between these two panels is my cholesterol is the worst place. And then, obviously, my testosterone wasn't a completely for place.

Speaker 1 00:36:21


Speaker 0 00:36:24

Excuse me. Gucos was higher here as well by two. Milligrams per deciliter, which is surprising. I'm not sure why I didn't notice that last time, but it is what is And then going forward, I should dial and test. This is what the hormone side of things looks like. So let me go back to the other one. Here we go. So moving on, creatinine and then coming down here, this is gonna be CDC, just like your blood count, basically just the different markers of your blood count. So A18 ALT, I've I swear, I've dove into research about it, and I can't find anything about it. As far as, like, what it really actually means, it's they're two enzymes. They're they're really just liver enzymes. But really, like, what the effects mean is let me pull this up. So abnormal levels. Anywhere from five fifty to what a hundred is considered abnormal for these numbers right here. Right? So Yeah. Looking at this here. Yeah. So anything here is considered abnormal but anything from one hundred three hundred to one thousand is considered acute hepatitis. So that's where you have, like, toxic liver. Or some sort of fire roll issue with your liver. Where we're at right now is really nowhere near that. We're fine. I think it just comes down to I have no idea actually because I don't drink, I don't smoke, nothing like like I don't have I don't really do anything that would affect my liver. Granted anabolic does affect your liver. It's one of the main things that are not main things, but it's one of the organs that gets affected very heavily by a scene with your heart. So very possible that that's what that's from, but it's nothing to worry about right now because we're not at that stage. We're not even close to what's consider toxic liver syndrome or, you know, some sort of virus in my liver that's gonna destroy it. So we are totally fine. We can address it. Or possibly just something

Speaker 1 00:38:37

that I would say Yeah. I would I would say, like, for people who are watching and learning about this, that might be one of the most important ones because anything involving your liver, I mean, not necessarily those two directly, but the other information we've covered about your liver because so much what people take is oral, and that's just running house on your liver. So, like, if

Speaker 0 00:38:58


Speaker 1 00:38:58

take supplements, that's all pill form. That's going to be digested through your liver. If you take, like, oral harms or oral anabolic or anything like that. That's all running through your liver. So that's a super important thing to keep a eye on.

Speaker 0 00:39:15

Yeah. That's a good point. I haven't really taken anything oral in a long time. Well, I I I shouldn't say that. I mean, I was taking some oral, like, aromatase, aromatase inhibitors. I took, like, clumpid, stuff like that. So, like, that could definitely play a role on it. But as far as, like, anything like what I would consider really damaging to my liver, it's been a long time since it's anything oral, which is really just, like, NAVAR. I haven't taken anything like, I haven't taken, like, Anadrol. For instance, Anadrol is oral, and it's very harsh in your liver. It's one of the crazier start steroids out there. And it's oral. And I haven't taken that, nothing like that. So as far as like what's really affecting my liver, I think it's more something just like kind of underlying possibly. I think it might be just a gist of all of my steroid usage. But, again, there's there's a lot of supplements out there, a lot of supplement companies that create, like, liver support, supplements. Five percent nutrition has a decent one. And the reason five percent create it, which switched piano he created it because of his steroid usage, and he said, I wanted to have a really good supplement that could help protect your liver and prolong it for longevity and all of that. So that's why he created that one. So, like, that's literally it's called like

Speaker 1 00:40:30

It's it's literally called no, after hold on. I was looking into that's what one of the ones I was going to take.

Speaker 0 00:40:37

Yeah. Was it yeah. It's something to do a cycle. It's like directly marketed towards people who take take steroids.

Speaker 1 00:40:45

Post gear. It's literally called post gear.

Speaker 0 00:40:48

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. So that's that's ideally something you could take to help with your liver. That's really might just be awesome that I need. It's just some liver support just to get my liver back into a good place. But it's not like, again, it's not like I'm in alcohol. Like, you know, my liver is not in the tanker, you know, nothing like that. It's just I think it's just from the effects overall of of anabolic usage. So it is a good one to keep an eye out to like, it's it's The reason I couldn't really figure out much of what it was before was because when I was figuring out, like, what issues it really means at this range, there really isn't much you could find. Like, there's not really anything anywhere that I could find that, like, said, like, this these numbers are, like, really bad. Like, this is gonna cause an issue. Obviously, three hundred and up will cause an issue, but I couldn't really find anything like, oh, this is what this could mean. Like, you your liver could be stage two of fucking toxic liver, like, whatever. Like, it could like, there's not like, it's like if you have, like

Speaker 1 00:41:48


Speaker 0 00:41:49

If you're systolic blood pressure is a little high. You could be like, yeah, it's This is a this is a predisposed amount that could point to potential heart issues or blood pressure issues in the future. That's exactly what this number range means. Like, that's what we know about blood pressure. For this, we don't I don't think anybody knows yet. It's it's too it's too variable. So that's why I was saying, like, I couldn't really figure out what it means. But everything else pretty much checks out. I mean, my bread blood cell count is always high and it most likely always is gonna be high just because of training. White blood cell count is high. I think also part of the reason it was high is because I'm also sick right now, like I had a head cold kind of going into my blood test. So I mean, that's part of the reason why my my white blood cells, like, right at the very tip of the reference range. So that's a good thing to see that my body's producing more white blood cells in order to fight my head cold. And it's still kind of I'm still clearing it out of my system. That's why you guys hear me like sniffling sometimes and shit because I got this gunk in my system. Hemoglobin just carries oxygen and carbon dioxide throughout your blood. Platelet count. Really just your red blood platelets. It's all of this is just your fuck your blood cloud blood count. It's really all that means. This is a good place to check make sure everything's kind of in range That's what you want. Just like the mineral one up here. You kind of want all this stuff to be in range. Then you want all this stuff to be in range. Typically, I can't imagine you'll see one particular thing out of whack. While nothing else is out of whack, I think that if you're gonna be off with one thing, you're gonna be off with multiple things. So that's when you need to address it. But with where we're at right now. Red blood cell count being high, makes sense just because of training. It always it was always high. I mean, the one I took previously my red blood count was six point zero one million per units. Yeah. Six point o one. Now mine's five point nine three. So it's it's always a little high, but that's okay. That just means that more more red blood cells in my system to recover and carry oxygen. So it's okay. Not really too too much of a worry there, but again here, we have IGF one, testosterone free in total, and then we're waiting for estradiol ultra sensitive to come back But what we wanna see so, like, let me pull back let me pull back my other one.

Speaker 1 00:44:28

That's that's what I was about to say if obviously, speculatory, but if you were to guess where your free test is, in your PCT, what do you ballpark guessing?

Speaker 0 00:44:40

Yeah. Let me see. This one, there we go. So

Speaker 1 00:44:43

because we we saw what your your test numbers were mid cycle, and it was one hundred percent natural. But

Speaker 0 00:44:50


Speaker 1 00:44:51

Yeah. The more so, like, what is your ex expectation for it now that you're in PCT?

Speaker 0 00:44:58

Yeah. So I'm completely off everything now. So my expectation for my numbers will be like for my total, my guess is probably like knowing my body, maybe around five hundred. In that ballpark around five hundred nanograms per deciliter. And then knowing my body as well, my free is like probably about seventy, probably sixty to seventy. And if it's in that ballpark, I'll be pretty happy. That just means, like, I'm just naturally producing it is really what that would mean. So,

Speaker 1 00:45:33

you know, what I say,

Speaker 0 00:45:35

we're off everything for good, like, week and a half before at least week and a half before I go blood test. So we should be back to, like, pretty much normal production by the time. I got my blood test done, so I'm just waiting on that to come back.

Speaker 1 00:45:48

And if your test is lower than that, your it obviously means your body is not back to a natural producing. Are you looking at more of a TRT then? Or is there a different process? Just give it more time.

Speaker 0 00:46:02

Yeah. Good question. So if I'm, like, two fifty or some shit like that. We probably got it measured. My body wasn't fully producing it yet. I don't think it's for me, I don't think it's a problem. I think you just need to get my body more time. I don't think I'd need to go get another blood test. But if you're, like, natural, you've never done anything, you've never done a PCT, nothing like that. You go to get tested and you're at two fifty, That's a problem because you've been naturally producing your whole life and you're that low that could be that could be potential for some issues. Where you could go to a clinic and be like, hey, look, you know, these are my blood test results. Your free testosterone also plays a role and your estrogen plays a role too. Some guys will find that they have high estrogen and low test, and that's directly because your pituitary gland, your your gonads, your prostate none of that's operating properly, you know. And of course, because of that, you're gonna have other issues as well. You know, if you have low test and none of that's properly performing, you're most likely your testes are probably shut down at that point or close to it. And therefore, you're probably not gonna be able to conceive a child if you wanted to. You know, that's why I think, like, also with guys is that if you're gonna go get or try to go get pregnant, I think you should also go get your blood test done. Just to be sure, hey, you know, I just wanna be sure my numbers are where they're supposed to be, regardless of a sperm check. You can absolutely do a sperm check as well. Or a sperm check instead of a blood work. But I think ideally you do the blood work and then do the sperm check if you're gonna do that. I think it's good to know both. When you go to conceive a child, I think it's good to know both for just you and the person you're with. This goes for women too. I think it's good to get get your men your your markers checked and I'll let make sure everything's working properly.

Speaker 1 00:48:02

Yeah. It's kinda like taking a look at, you know, in the in the golden age of of Bali building, you know, they didn't really have as in-depth, excuse me, knowledge and information like we have now. Even if you're not in the Bali Billing World, just taking a look back at just, you know, forty, fifty years ago, which in the grand scheme of humanity is not all that long, And it's more so just being able to take advantage of, you know, the technology and advancements we've made even if you have, you know, no real reason to. It's it's most of this is just, you know, preventative and and checking in periodically to just keep yourself in a good you know, state of mind, good, healthy body, and you can catch things. Like if a number is is waning when it really shouldn't be, even if it's not in a danger zone yet, you can catch it early on. That's why Paul said way back when, you know, taking a blood test once a year. I mean, in the bodybuilding world, you take it a little bit more than that sometimes.

Speaker 0 00:49:03


Speaker 1 00:49:04

But for people who have no reason to, once the year is a pretty reasonable amount of time.

Speaker 0 00:49:09

Yeah. Once a year is plenty for anybody who's natural, even if you're training the gym, once a year is plenty. As you get older, I think once you hit thirty five, should I get it every, like, six months? Because thirty five is literally right when your body starts you're to test our storm starts to tank, and it goes on bucking fast, my guy. Let me tell you. By the time you're forty five, like, this is I'm not talking out of my ass here. Like, there's been studies showing that between the ages of thirty five and forty five, like, in that range, like, that period of time, ten years roughly, is when your testosterone is basically gone. By the time you're forty five. That's the average. Right? And it starts on average around thirty five. So if you're thirty five, I always say start getting it checked every six months or so. Because it's just it's like, okay. Here's my thing. I one thing I've always kinda believed is that the way the human body was built was never built to live or to live how long or how we live now. Right? When we when we first formed as a species, we live no longer than, like, thirty to thirty five typically. And on top of that, we were way smaller and we were never meant to live to be nineties and eating the shit that we eat, you know. So obviously, there's a lot of studies done and all of that. And there's a lot of different beliefs and all of that. But at the end of the day, I think part of the reason our body shuts down after like thirty five is because, really, we should be dead by then, honestly. Like, that's how it was. You know, you don't live that long back then. Thirty five was old. Your oldest shit at thirty five. Granted, obviously, aging is different. Now at thirty five, you're still young. Back then, it's not like you were like gray and white at thirty five, but thirty five was usually like the max. It's like any other animal. Every single animal, that's not the Apex Predator. You almost guarantee to die, being eaten. Very few animals die of old age. And that's how humans were. We we either were eaten or we died of some sort of illness or accident or starvation. Like, it was an outside force. It was never it was almost never anything natural role. It's never old age. You never just your body just never just shut down. It just didn't just stop working. So that's, I think, part of the reason why our body shut down like that. So, yeah, keep getting tested if you're thirty five and up. Get tested every six months. What my plan is is now that I'm at a different place financially, I'll say, I wanna get every cycle I run. In the middle of the cycle, I wanna get blood tests done. And especially if there's only like one variable difference. Like if it's like, oh, this cycle I'm running trend versus last cycle I was running Primo. How does my body respond to premo versus how does my body respond to trend? You know, flight cycle is very similar. So, like, that's kind of what I wanna see. I wanna see how my body respond to these things. In the middle of cycles. So I do wanna get more blood tests done to see how that's going. So, like, you know, bodybuilding is a lot more reason to get your blood test done. I get it done. And once every, like, maybe six months to a year, depends on what the year looks like. But going forward, I wanna get it done probably every three months or so, roughly, three to four months, like middle of bulk, middle of prep, middle of cruise is basically what I'm looking at.

Speaker 1 00:52:42


Speaker 0 00:52:42

Something like that. So we'll see how that goes. But, yeah, it's it's always good to know what your blood markers look like from time to time and it's always good to just get it checked. I've always believed in that

Speaker 1 00:52:58

Yeah. And I mean, that's, like, just going back to, you know, taking advantage of modern technology. Like, this stuff is available. And, you know, it's relatively cost effective. It's not, you know, go to the store and just drop five bucks. Like, it's it's little more than that, but it's still relatively cost effective in the, you know, grand scheme of things. If you're thinking lifetime support, it's absolutely worth it. Like, I imagine you catch some like, God forbid, you catch, like, some kind of a let's take, like, diabetes, for example. You catch that prior to it actually getting to the point where you need to be fully, you know, on some kind of medicine, like, you just save yourself a lot more than the the amount of cost for your test. You know?

Speaker 0 00:53:47

Yeah. I mean, if you're able to prevent it, I mean, that's where a lot of this is. Like you said earlier, it's all a lot of preventative stuff. You know, that's that's really important because you're you'll be thankful you did it in the end. Because once if you don't prevent it, it'll end up becoming too late and there's nothing you can do about it and I have to deal with it. So if you could get ahead of it, take proactive measurements to prevent it, then you're gonna be much healthier in a longer run. Again, I also don't believe that you should be taking every vitamin under the sun, and I don't think that you should be supplementing in everything that your body needs. If your body needs it supplement it in, but that's really when you need to supplement it in. That's my opinion. You know, I like, that guy in the video, great insight, great knowledge. Personally, I don't think I'd benefit a lot from taking multiple kinds of magnesium like he was taking. Might work for him? Is that something I don't think I need? I mean, I take magnesium glycinate. I kind of not I kind of notice a difference. I notice a difference a lot during prep, but not now. Now that I have more, you know, food in my system, I have more energy, a lot less training, all that. So I might not need it now. He might need it and benefit from it. But just because somebody takes a certain vitamin doesn't mean that you have to take it as well is what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 00:55:04


Speaker 0 00:55:04

And everything coming out normal here, I'm I'm pretty happy about that.

Speaker 1 00:55:09

And if you the thing is if you don't catch excuse me. If you don't catch something and it gets too late, just blast a a CC of training right into this sunset, you know.

Speaker 0 00:55:19

Yeah. Perfect. Did you see that did you see that video I sent yesterday? Where it seems like the table. He's like

Speaker 1 00:55:26


Speaker 0 00:55:27

He's like there's a bunch of gains on this table and you're just leaving it or whatever

Speaker 1 00:55:31

it was. Yep.

Speaker 0 00:55:32

So this video is a meme and it was like it

Speaker 1 00:55:34

was like When your homie doesn't want to Yeah. What's that? When your homie doesn't want to cycle with you.

Speaker 0 00:55:42

He's like, there's a lot of gains on the table and you're just leaving it there or something like that. It seems to, like, classic. Well, yeah. I mean, it's I think you guys should get it done, get it checked out, and try to interpret it the best way you can. Obviously, there's You could take classes on what each of these markers mean. I mean, each there's so many markers in a blood test. I mean, it's I can't we don't have the time to go over each one. And not every single one really matters. Yes, obviously, as a bulk, they do. But, like, if my absolute Basophils aren't fucking dialed in, doesn't mean I'm gonna die. You know, it's like it's it's the bulk of everything that you wanna look at for your minerals, your blood count, and your vitamins and all that. But the the key things is what we're going over today. That's the key things you wanna look at. You know, it's like six or seven things that really tell you everything you need to know.

Speaker 1 00:56:41

And if you if you aren't able to read it, feel free to send it in and we'll go well to WebMD on you and tell you that you have six hours to live.

Speaker 0 00:56:49

Yeah. You got some, like, obscured revolutionary war sickness that will kill you and only, like, seven people have ever had it.

Speaker 1 00:56:56

You've got the bubonic plague, the one that's been dead for over a while.

Speaker 0 00:57:00

You got what's called? Dead. That's it. Dead. It's just just go cured. You're dead. You're not alive. But, yeah, we appreciate you guys listening. We'll have we we do apologize for the break there. I was up with family for the weekend for Christmas, and

Speaker 1 00:57:21

That was dummy sick.

Speaker 0 00:57:22

Yeah. You got fucked up from some some fucked up your whole system.

Speaker 1 00:57:27

So lost ten pounds in a single week. I'm not not happy about that.

Speaker 0 00:57:31

It happened. It'll come right back, dude. A lot of that's water. A lot of that's water. So it'll come right back. But Yeah. So it just it just didn't work out. First record. So it is what it is. It happens. And we try to keep it to once a week as much as we possibly can, Buzztime's life gets in the way, but we're back at it. Should be a problem going forward recording it for once a week. But we appreciate you guys sticking by and listening. With that being said, take it easy guys. Appreciate it. We'll see you.

Speaker 1 00:58:01

Bizzo. It's funny. I was I'm playing the how long can my headset survive? It keeps beep

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