top of page
  • Writer's pictureHall of Gains and Hypertrophy Podcast

Influencer Review #1: Rich Piana


00:00.00

christophknoll

Rich Piana that's it that's our intro that's that's it

00:04.80

Paul

Yes, sir the man the myth the legend rest in peace rich piano. Um, that's what we be talking about today. Good old rich.

00:14.19

christophknoll

The yeah we are ah we're just gonna be taking a deep dive into you know some of his teachings. Some of the things that he did some of the crazy shit that he took and just doing an overall like.

00:28.52

christophknoll

Just rundown of of 1 of the one of the natty gods I'm kidding. He's not natty. We were just joking about that.

00:35.62

Paul

Yeah, he he for those that don't know look him up on Youtube he was way ahead of his time. First of all, he's way ahead of his time we need him now more than we needed him seven years ago um before he passed away. But um, he was a bodybuilder businessman social media influencer stuff like that. Um, he I don't think he ever made pro I'm pretty sure he only competed in the npc um, and he talked about why that is. And he was talking about how he realized the harder he worked the more he went towards bodybuilding the more he realized that um the guys around him were pushing it way harder than he was and they're borderline killing themselves so he which is a lot of the. A lot of the case true it just saw a matter of perspective and to rich. Um, even with you know all of his steroid usage and all of that. Um, there are a lot of compounds that bodybuilders used that he didn't want to touch with a tin foot pole. Um, one of them especially in the early two thousand s a big one was insulin. Um. Hard diuretics were also big back then so he saw these guys using all of that stuff to get ready for these shows and he just was like this ain't for me and on top of that another thing that he talked about that he didn't like was that he would ask the Jut typically after it shows you asked the judges what you could have improved upon.

02:06.80

Paul

And he said he didn't like that aspect because if he wanted to look the way he wanted to look well would he look a different way. Why would he look a way that somebody else wanted him to look. You know if they said oh you need smaller arms but he wanted bigger arms. Why would he? why would he sacrifice the way he wanted to look you know so.

02:23.31

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

02:24.37

Paul

That's another reason why he got out of bodybuilding. But yeah, he never made it pro. Unfortunately, even though I think that he had a pro-level Physique prior to other things you're go be talking about later on. But yeah I think he deserved pro.

02:33.90

christophknoll

Yeah, the only stuff that I could find was his Mr California stuff that he won both as a teen and as an adult. So I mean that's pretty cool, but yeah, nothing nothing higher than that.

02:41.83

Paul

Is.

02:48.98

Paul

Yeah, he it says there's mpc competitions. Um in 2003 and until is nine so he probably didn't place that well. But Mr. California teen and in 1989 he won and so I guess he won I want to see me maybe I could find out it might be online. Um and see if I could find like gives you could look by athletes. Um.

03:17.59

christophknoll

Yeah, can you imagine though that like like think about like you going to the excalibber and just out of nowhere like obviously it was different back when he was body bullet when Rich piano's bodybuilding but can you imagine like on the amateur style. You just go to? ah.

03:22.75

Paul

So let me see if I could find.

03:36.88

christophknoll

Like the excalber and you're like doing your thing and then rich Pia is there like with his physique. Ah.

03:43.60

Paul

Yeah, that would be wild I'd love that but too late too too late now. But ah I do wish I got to meet rich piano I never got to. Search competitor there. It is okay. Me see maybe not it might it might not be documented online. Yeah I can't find it. Oh maybe it. It's Richard my you Richard probably not.

04:16.89

christophknoll

Yeah, whatever his true name is.

04:22.70

Paul

Yeah, it's probably Richard which is weird to think Richard Pana that doesn't sound right? Um yeah I can't find it so it says online at least on his Wikipedia page that he supposedly won Mr. Teen California 1989 Mr California in 9098 and some npc competitions in 2 3 and 2009 um, but that's all it really says it doesn't say what competitions in 2003 and 2009 just says that he did um I guess his pro. Says pro debut was Mr. Cala 4098 but that don't make sense because npc doesn't run professional competitions but I don't know anyways, um, besides the point he wasn't he he had a bodybuilder's physique and a immense open bodybuilders physique at that. Um. His legs could have used more size back then but ultimately he had a really solid upper body and then he got into the influencing side of things and that's where um, you know suppose that synthal got involved um other hard compounds.

05:29.37

christophknoll

Well, that's what I was going to say to like he's he wasn't touching stuff but then was throwing synthol in and synthal is not as common as you know some of the other harsher compounds that people take.

05:35.54

Paul

Mean.

05:46.49

Paul

Well synthal is very very dangerous because um, Synthol itself is an oil that you inject into your muscles that hardens and enlarges them in size and it can be very dangerous when you get to the extreme side of things and you know they start to leak those rock.

06:04.22

Paul

Substances start to leak and and start damaging your overall muscle tissue. Um, there's those guys with the extreme sized arms and traps and shit like that in other countries there a guy with giant pecks too. It's all synthal based and um.

06:08.44

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

06:22.25

Paul

If it they were to burst I don't think that would be very healthy at all I think you probably die from it I don't know how but I feel like there's no way that you can just a bunch of oil. It can just get seeped into your body that's been sitting there for 10 years that's going to be good for you. So.

06:34.10

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

06:39.18

Paul

Yeah, you got to be careful that stuff he denies using synthal. But it's kind of obvious ah because his triceps were just way too rounded. Ah, they just his tries just didn't make any sense. Um and his biceps just didn't make any sense like it just his arms didn't match up with what his physique used to be when he was competing. And then it just it also just motive to. He had the motive to look freaky excuse me. Yeah.

07:01.85

christophknoll

Yeah I mean part of his like thing when you like look at like think about anybody who's getting into like serious weightlifting anything and you know sees all the different peoples. Obviously there's like Ronnie and Jay and like the big Mr Olympia winners but then you see like the guys who didn't win and. Um, who make a lot more content and he just looks so much bigger than any other person making that made content. So like you're inclined to watch him so you're right like he has every reason to look like abnormally large.

07:29.58

Paul

Yeah.

07:38.34

Paul

Yeah, he did. He did look wild um with his physique and he was just when he would walk around like that was I think that was one of his biggest things was even like making sure to look good in the gym is more so about looking crazy with like clothes on just in public.

07:54.52

christophknoll

Well, that's that's the thing that us bodybuilders prefer over power lifters like power lifters want to look good in the gym with the amount of weight they push and and move and whatnot and bodybuilderers just want to we like look good like everywhere like that's that's the big difference.

07:56.10

Paul

That was his biggest thing.

08:12.21

Paul

Yeah, yeah, we want to the goal is to look to look vacant good with clothes on with a t-shirt on that's the goal be like oh that guy fucking lifts that guy fucks too. You could tell he fucks. Um, but.

08:15.85

christophknoll

Yeah.

08:24.49

christophknoll

Ah.

08:27.43

Paul

Yeah, it. So I mean that was his biggest thing I think we just making sure that he looked absolutely insane. Ah with with clothes on and all that shit and here are videos of him walking around and whatnot and he'd take videos of people's reactions to him and shit because it's not every day that you see someone like rich pia walking. On a sidewalk and he also lived in California too like in la so like you'd see like people shocked on like fucking rodeo. You know like rodeo street. Whatever it is like just like shopping and fucking gucci or something just massive motherfucker that could barely put on like even the purse loops don't even fit around his damn arms. You know what? I mean. So. Um, yeah, it's just it's not something people saw a lot but that's part of what made him big and another reason that he got big social media wise was because I mean he had some. He had some small um, ah roles and Tv and stuff like that. Ah, but really, ah, a big a big thing that ah he got big from which is his openness about steroid use. He was like the first one really to be like very transparent about what he takes and what it does to a woman and what not to do and like why you shouldn't take it stuff like that. So pretty wild that um he ah was like the first one to kind of pioneer that movement and that's kind of what we're part of now too like my my openness is a big portion of it is influenced because of rich piano and I appreciated I still appreciate.

10:03.22

Paul

All of his openness about his Steroid use. So I want to return that you know and carry that on with my life and live my life that way where I am open about it. It only helps really at the end of the day.

10:12.62

christophknoll

Yeah I mean one of the things that we really have talked about in the past is like what do you have to gain from Holt withholding it like obviously like people who like for example, Liver King I know we try not to talk about him too much. But. He had every reason why trying to hide it because he's selling all these different like supplements and things and he claims that is the only reason um so people who sell things like that I can understand the motive there I don't agree with it I cannot I can understand the motive but people who are just in like bodybuilding and.

10:39.56

Paul

Yeah.

10:51.79

christophknoll

Completely like say they are natural that makes no sense because that is truly misleading because they're not trying to sell anything. They're just trying to bring a package to the show and win and on social media. They claim natural that doesn't make any sense there.

11:09.43

Paul

Yeah I mean I understand not wanting to talk about it at all which is fair. Um, but if you claim natural and you're not that can be honestly the other way around. It can be dangerous. Um, because one you're kind of giving false hope and.

11:10.96

christophknoll

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

11:26.86

Paul

Ah, you kind of line. Obviously you're lying because you're not asho. So oh why ya'all when I talk it's fucking annoying. Um, so you're giving false hope you're you're setting unrealistic expectations for for individuals that want to look the way you want to the the way you look. Um I think for me the like I think it's it's better to not talk about it than to just claim natural when you're not, um, but at the same time I think when you don't talk about it I think it can also be a problem too. Um, um, big example of that is Dwayne Johnson

12:02.47

christophknoll

I was about to bring him up.

12:05.54

Paul

Ah, he has yeah he has um requirements for interviews where he they cannot bring up steroid use um or anything like that he will not talk about it which I understand coming from his platform but at the same time. Like there's there's there's no snowball in hell's chance that Rich Piot are not rich. p dwayne johnson is natural. There's no shot, especially with him playing maui coming up in in the live action. Um mowaana he is going to be on everything under the fucking sign to put on size and lose fat.

12:41.92

christophknoll

They're gonna make a live action I didn't know that Mali yeah I'm on a true cut I'm on a true cut. Let's see how small I can get not just not just wait.

12:42.30

Paul

Like he's gonna yeah, they're making a live action and he's playing Milana or now he's playing. He's measured to play Miljuana he's he's playing Maui a wig on me bitch. Ah yeah, know he's playing.

12:58.26

christophknoll

I Want to lose height.

13:01.24

Paul

He ought to lose everything I would become a woman. Ah yeah, he Yeah, he's going to play Maui so he be playing himself kind of how to lower height with steroids.

13:05.70

christophknoll

Like Google Search Google Search does estrogen lower height.

13:17.70

Paul

Remove Knee caps. Okay done just cuts it off done.

13:22.45

christophknoll

Well, it's like ah the family guy thing with Peter I went in that into the doctors and I said I want to make my tick bigger but I asked the wrong question he comes out with no legs.

13:35.20

Paul

Yeah, he goes ah he goes I went it down to my knees and he walks and he goes they brought up my knees but his legs like two inches long they brought up my knees I love it. It's so it's the the number the better. Um.

13:42.55

christophknoll

Such such a dumb shtick.

13:52.63

Paul

But yeah, so he he's playing maui and there's just no way in hell he's not on a ton of compounds and you can't tell me with a straight face that a dude that has like a few hundred thousand dollars gym that travels with him wherever he goes.

14:02.89

christophknoll

Yeah, can you imagine though? can you imagine though like obviously like wherever you go for acting. There's generally a lot of space because you know acting like.

14:07.90

Paul

Is not on steroids. There's no way like this dude's constantly training.

14:19.10

christophknoll

Departments and places they've built like fake cities and stuff where people like film everything in their space but his regular travel can you imagine like not how much it costs to ship that gym but the amount he spends on rent on like one day renting land to to.

14:21.40

Paul

Yeah.

14:35.88

christophknoll

You know, put that gym down somewhere.

14:35.94

Paul

Yeah I don't know how that aspect works because he has like a tent thing that he puts up right and he has like yeah he has that like team he has like a team of like 5 or 6 guys that like takes everything apart puts it back together wherever he's filming.

14:40.10

christophknoll

It and it's massive.

14:51.81

Paul

But I wonder how that would work like the land aspect of things he might that might be a requirement of working with him like you need to supply me the land to build my gym on temporarily. Um, but I mean he's got if he's got the money for it I'd do it too if I could but.

14:57.81

christophknoll

Yeah.

15:07.40

christophknoll

Yep.

15:08.51

Paul

I just want a gym like that in 1 spot I want half a gym like that in just 1 spot. That's all I want I don't need it traveling with me I just need it at home in my garage. That's what I want um, but no of course. But yeah, so back to rich. He was very open about it. He talked about.

15:11.65

christophknoll

Yeah, ah.

15:16.21

christophknoll

Yeah, the home gym is is is the goal.

15:28.39

Paul

Steroids uses ah through you know Hgh ah, which is human growth hormone. You talked about testosterone a lot. Um, as far as like the extra compounds he talks about those are really the only ones I can think of um I know he was pretty open about his deca usage which. Is kind of is basically um, he he talked about how he uses to test and deca. Um, deca can be used on its own as t r t it's derived from testosterone. But if you're using conjunction. It's a great ah size compounder. Um. Which is what he started at 18 apparently was testing Decca and at the time mid to late eighty s I mean there wasn't crazy crazy compoundunds on the market at the time in comparison to now. So decca d ball test. Um, naone really which I think is actually just deal. But um.

16:25.27

Paul

Yeah, so Decatherbolan testosterone are really just his main compounds. Ah obviously he he used to take like things like aromatase inhibitors in order to help with guyno all of that and the gh wasn't even really necessarily. He talked about it in videos. It wasn't really necessarily for. Muscle gains and all of that which gh is the way gh works is very very almost backwards to how other compounds work. But the reason he took Gh was because it made him feel better. Um, helped his hair grow stuff like that. Um, which is what gh will do and gh you can get. I don't know if you do it now but I know at one point I have to look into it I know at 1 point you can get prescribed gh um, and it's a great compound for people on the older side. Ah I think more for him it was because of his ah damage that he's done to his body through steroid usage that. Kind of call for Gh as a remedy for the situation. But if you're on the older side gh can can literally change your life just like testosterone can if you're low test if you're get on t r it will change your life. Um, so he use Gh ah very expensively in order to feel better throughout the day and essentially what he would do which for my understanding he was almost liver king level as far as spending goes because he had all the money to spend on it but he would do.

17:56.34

Paul

Um I believe it was so he said he was sometimes getting it for free the gh but typically it would cost him about 8 grain a month roughly $2000 a week um in order to pin I believe um. So he would pin once a week or really you want to pin every day but he was taking twenty I use per day of sir Austin which is a synthetic version of it which is a shit time 20 I use a day on the ra is a fucking shit ton. Um, so he was probably I mean. And that's what he's saying 28 use per day. He's probably penning per day but people also calculate per week itself like that you know you could say if you're on seven hundred Milligrams test you could say you're on a hundred Milligrams a day of test which even though you're not penning hundred Milligrams a day test. You could just say that so this is all just.

18:44.30

christophknoll

It's just easier for calculating.

18:47.69

Paul

Yeah, yeah, it all just depends on how you look at it. Um, if you talk in Milliliters you're a fucking Idiot ah because Milliters no mean shit but Milligrams Absolutely especially I mean as long as you got at pure shit. But that's all it matters. Oh god.

18:52.31

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

18:58.50

christophknoll

I measure I measure in cups one cup of.

19:07.26

Paul

How many cups a day of testosterone. Do you take? We're goingnna get to that point where it's like the compounds can be so ridiculous. You be like how many cups of trend. Do you take in a day I take 3 and they're like basically just like beef jerky. Yeah, they're just like shriveled up fucking. Oh.

19:13.91

christophknoll

Ah.

19:19.58

christophknoll

Ah I just I just drink it I just drink it.

19:26.22

Paul

God I probably taste terrible too because it's it's mine should suspend it in Mct oil so it probably tastes terrible. Um, but yeah, so that was rich is kind of beginning and he really spread a um positive message I think it talked about how. You shouldn't do what he does and he does it because that's what he does. Um, that's yeah, That's really, that's really it.

19:51.27

christophknoll

Yeah I mean um, everybody who does or who works out and like gets their body to that level and tells people not to do the things they're doing I mean most of us have pretty bad body dysmorphia like and I'm willing to bet dimes on the dozen. He.

20:03.46

Paul

It is.

20:07.21

christophknoll

Always felt like he had small arms because the amount of time and like you see how disproportionate his arms I mean not I'm I'm going to say disproportionate. It's not taking away from him. Um at all but he definitely has bigger arms than anything else and like for sure that's a you know factor or a a result from having you know.

20:09.71

Paul

Oh yeah.

20:16.99

Paul

Yeah.

20:23.73

Paul

Um, but but but yeah yeah I mean.

20:26.44

christophknoll

People who not people say um, a factor of having Bodi dysmorphia against you know his arms. He feels like his arms are always small.

20:40.60

Paul

That's just like you said that's just body a bit dysmorphia one one which is unfortunate but I wonder how I got to look up his arm size I remember what they were at. But I mean.

20:51.32

christophknoll

I'm going to take a guess at 26 that's my guess.

20:59.66

christophknoll

Wow. Okay, yeah.

21:00.20

Paul

Ah, twenty three and a half actually but I think it's just proportionately. They look enormous I mean twenty four inch arms is like rich like Ronnie Coleman I think had twenty four inch arms something like that. But it was.

21:12.14

christophknoll

Yep.

21:16.57

Paul

Think is more because rich doesn't have much of a peak when he's flexing his arms where because they're just so massive. He doesn't have much of a peak where with like someone like Rodney Coleman he has crazy bicep peakek ah so that will definitely play a role. Um and again size as well. Um I don't remember.

21:30.83

christophknoll

Yeah.

21:36.38

Paul

Exactly his height let me see if it says it right here. Oh six foot what the fuck I don't know anyways, that's what it has't line I don't know if that's true or not. But um, he's also known for his as far as his arms go he was also known for his 8 hour arm workout.

21:54.81

christophknoll

Hey guys just came up with my just came up with my new leg day hey guys. So this is essentially an 8 hour arm workout.

21:55.66

Paul

Um, so he would do an 8 hour arm workout.

22:06.56

Paul

I love those memes or you skip out and like day for something else. It's like when you're about to hit likes. But then you end up on the bench press. Ah, but yeah, so he did a 8 hour arm workout I don't know how often he did it supposedly that was his arm routine I guess um, but what he would do.

22:06.78

christophknoll

Yeah, yep.

22:23.43

Paul

Is he'd split up the workout into sixteen thirty minute workouts and he'd have essentially alternating workouts that he would do so he would do ah for 30 minutes he would do 4 sets of 10 of skull crushers and 4 sets of 10 of barbell curls. And then the next thirty minutes he would do um for sets of 15 for single arm dumbbell extensions and then work out the second movement would be 4 sets of 15 of barbell dumbbell hammer curls so hammer curls in barbell curls. It says barbell dumbbell hammer curls I don't. What the fuck that is if it's a barbell or dumbbell. But for for a hamburger I mean there are like there. Yeah, there are barbells.

23:01.98

christophknoll

I'm wondering if that's like with an easy bar like and yeah, like a warped easy bar maybe to try and get the the because the hammer crows you need that the straight up grip. So.

23:16.27

Paul

I wouldn't really call them barbells. But they're basically just like these bars that you could put weights on each end and they they allow you to do Hammer curls and the close bench and shit. So maybe that's what they're talking about I'm not sure. But either way he's doing a skull crusher and an extension and then he's doing a barbo curl.

23:21.96

christophknoll

Yeah.

23:35.42

Paul

And a ham curl. So who excuse me. Um, so he the way he would do this is he would have I believe it was a large meal about an hour and a half prior to training so you have an about an hour and a half. Ah, to digest then after every 30 minute workout he would have a protein shake. Um, which typically protein shakes for one scoop is like twenty five grams of protein something like that. So we're talking like eight hundred grams of protein by the time you're done. You're actually on harm day. And that's just the protein chicks alone. He would have a meal beforehand and he would have a big meal afterwards. Um the guy who's talking about it who tested it on himself. He did um, large pizza chicken chips milkshake and a protein dessert and then two days off from the gym.

24:29.36

christophknoll

Yeah, you definitely need rest. Yeah.

24:32.43

Paul

Just end sleeping 12 to 14 hours but I mean that's not something you just can keep doing like if you can't like even train for a couple days. Yeah, yeah, that's your ending. Yeah the weekend off eat. Whatever you want all that just because you did.

24:38.19

christophknoll

Every week every friday and then I take the weekend off.

24:51.59

Paul

2 movements for biceps 2 movements for triceps for eight straight hours on Friday and who has the fucking time for that too.

24:55.54

christophknoll

Um, but wasn't wasn't riches claim that it added an inch like just on that workout alone to your biceps I feel like that was ah yeah.

25:06.56

Paul

Um I think from like a pump or something so he said.

25:10.83

christophknoll

Well no, no I feel like someone someone did it and then um, measured like days afterwards. Um, but yeah.

25:19.84

Paul

What this guy said that he measured the day after he gained half an inch on his arms. Supposedly ah as far as.

25:21.47

christophknoll

Yeah, that's I think that's what it is so every week I can gain half an inch. So by the end of the year I'm going to have twenty six inches added to my biceps.

25:35.10

Paul

By the end of next year I have forty inch arms unstoppable.

25:40.24

christophknoll

Then that's literally the the Russian synthal kid.

25:45.16

Paul

Yeah I'd have all have the biggest arms in the world I'll be I'll be a villain in a superhero movie. You'd be like bane liked you like to like the original bane from like. Way back in the day where he's the gigantic green monster that that poison I made like just fucking seven and a half feet tall £600 of pure muscle that'll be me next year after doing this eight r arm workout every single week.

26:01.35

christophknoll

Yeah.

26:14.52

christophknoll

And then Dwayne Johnson is doing the reverse of that to shrink in order to play maui.

26:22.18

Paul

Yeah, he he's just eating a lot of ah, a lot of Starbucks lattes um bis biskoff based oatmeal foods. Ah, and then girl dinners and that's what's going to get him to ah to mowaana size.

26:41.30

Paul

Girl dinner. Um.

26:42.70

christophknoll

So silly another thing that I know we talked about rich being very transparent with everything but his ah his bigger by the day series where he would literally record like his whole day like there was not a.

26:54.70

Paul

Things.

26:59.80

christophknoll

Shred of anything hidden like it was like from morning. Yeah, but it was it was everything in his day from what he ate to what he worked out to how much he sleeped what he did that day and like it was everything.

27:03.37

Paul

You're like 45 minutes or something right.

27:12.33

Paul

Um.

27:15.88

christophknoll

And so that's like the true definition of of transparency.

27:22.00

Paul

Yeah, yeah, that was a pretty big series. He had going there and it actually happened like right before he died um like he recorded it right before he died so like this one has a million views. For instance, this one was was posted January Twenty sixteen so god I can't fucking stand that they do that I can't stand that Youtube does that just says seven years ago doesn't anyways, um, it's like a little over a year before he died he died August Twenty seventeen um how long this series went I actually don't know um, due to how long it went for. Is there playlist. Maybe there's a playlist. Yeah, there is there is a playlist.

27:58.40

christophknoll

Um, well this this just says he's trying to put on £30 as fast as possible. So however, long that takes which is you know, subjective to the person.

28:11.77

Paul

Yeah, exactly I mean thirty thirty pounds is a lot to put on I wonder what he started at and where he ended let's see so this is okay so I think the last one they recorded was day one 10 which was ah ah may ninth 2016 so if you go from the start which was day one so may ninth Twenty sixteen is when it ended. He started January Fourth so if that's true and he was going for £30 he would have achieved it in four months which is we're talking about £2 a week roughly. He'd be putting on over over that four months um I haven't watched the entire series or anything like that right should at some point like go through.

28:54.65

christophknoll

Yeah.

29:06.48

Paul

An episode every couple days or something. Um, but yeah, he that was a big series that he had there for a while and then he stopped doing it after that. But I wish she was still going I Wish we still had bigger by the day we didn't realize what we had at the time. Wasn't really into the gym at the time we were just graduating high school when he pushed that last one. So if if he could have kept going and I could have gotten into ah rich prior to his death I think it have been but have been a different story but unfortunately got into it too late. So.

29:39.10

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

29:40.42

Paul

Never got to experience the rich piano. Um Hype I guess.

29:44.62

christophknoll

Um, with you know with how much his stuff is taken off and I mean his death doesn't really to me personally doesn't change the popularity of his videos I think that the content is just relevant now like you mentioned and can you imagine like a rich piano like.

29:55.23

Paul

Yeah.

30:01.55

Paul

So.

30:02.31

christophknoll

Signing at like ah ah like a gem or something like that and the amount of people that would like you know how no Lds it Noel Diesel does it ah in different locations when he travels he just like opens he goes to a gym and' like on his ah social'll be like I'm here if you want to meet me come hang out. Can you imagine how packed it would be if rich did something like that.

30:21.73

Paul

Yeah I mean I know Michael heard was pretty packed in that gym that day because he was there. Yeah I just went there to say what's up but I mean it was pretty packed that day so that was pretty that's pretty wild. Um, so.

30:25.28

christophknoll

The yeah one you went and saw him. Yeah.

30:33.79

christophknoll

No, you went you went there to pick you went there to prick Michael Hearn with a needle just so you can officially say that he's not natty. No you know you you you injected him with something.

30:37.83

Paul

How rich pien would be now I don't know.

30:46.31

Paul

Real quick draw test. Can you just? ah where you go to? Oh yeah, there now. He's not an that anymore I was gonna say when he goes to the bathroom I Just like right into the bathroom and just like catch some urine like gotcha and then run out Surprise Urine test.

30:58.69

christophknoll

And.

31:05.85

Paul

That would be I wonder what the results would be but anyways rich talked about how he um, he was more popular than a lot of the bodybuilders that he that were competing at the expos that he was at you know I think the olympia was one of them and he said it's it's. Funny because like back in the day. Um bodybuilders got big off of like magazines and and winning competition stuff like that. But then it became about social media. A lot of the aspect at least? Um, so for him he. Talked about how suhi media did made him so big and he would do these expos and the signings and shit and people would go to the expos simply just aside to get his signature to meet him and stuff like that and he said there's 1 time where he was an elevator and all he would say was that it was a big-time bodybuilder big time Olympia competitor like he's not talking about like some guy who's going to get like.

31:47.24

christophknoll

Yeah.

31:59.10

Paul

Twenty fifth or whatever like last call out or anything. He's like this is one of the top guys like projected to win potentially and he didn't know who he was he is in the elevator and the guy said hey rich he goes what's up man he goes I'm a big fan. He's like I appreciate everything that you're doing and all that and. What does he thank you and whatnot and he goes well, what's your name and the guy looked tall like offended because like he's at the olympia. This guy is like projected to win and he didn't know who he was and he's like it's just the reality of it was just that the popularity just doesn't sit with bodybuilding and at least in that aspect where you need the social media following.

32:23.60

christophknoll

Yeah.

32:34.92

Paul

Um, so now if he was still around man I can't imagine how bicky would be now because the industry went in the direction of needing transparency. We need transparency now more than ever and we didn't really need it back in 162017 where fitness culture wasn't as big as it is today. Ah. You know there's gyms like in Charlotte I talked about it. There's gyms popping up all the time you know I think ah like 2 3 a year at this point are popping up ah around the Charlotte area where so 2016 2017 it really wasn't a thing like it's it's even big among high schools now and shit like.

33:02.57

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

33:13.28

Paul

It's like ah it's like a social thing now where you hang out with your friends and you go with your friends and all that it's no longer about going to the mall like it was when we were in high school. It wasn't about you know going the movies or whatever it is. You know it's it's now like going to the gym going to train shit like that. That wasn't a thing for us in high school even though it wasn't too long ago. You know we graduated seven years ago roughly almost almost actually yeah, a little over seven years ago so um it's it's not as big as it's it's a lot bigger as it was so if we had him now I think. Be in a better place and I just I just wish he was he was ahead of his time. Unfortunately.

33:53.99

christophknoll

Yeah, and you know it's unfortunate to see that but ah, that's why we try and like that's like part of the motivation behind our video today to just you know, bring more light to all the stuff that he has and all the you know information that that he has available to like. If if you're in the gym world. You're for sure having at least 1 Ah oops busted video in your ah in your for you page. This doesn't count. This is a snack.

34:19.55

Paul

Busted eating a cookie all the way to the gym. Ah, a lot of this is a yummy snack. This doesn't count as he's eating a five hundred calorie fucking protein cookie.

34:35.65

Paul

Like that's so belittled the about of calories and cookies. This doesn't count dude that's like a cheap meal like that's like um, a lot of people call. Um I don't know what you think of him I haven't really watched any of his like true content but Sam Solik

34:42.59

christophknoll

Ah.

34:51.17

Paul

A lot of people call Sam Solick the new like rich pia kind of like with the way he like does his videos and all of that where he records like every aspect of his day. Um.

34:57.72

christophknoll

Oh yeah, yeah I So I didn't recognize his name but just looking on at him now I have so much on him like in terms of what pops up on my page and yeah, you're right? It's like he everything's recorded and he's such a humble dude to he's.

35:08.46

Paul

Yeah.

35:15.13

Paul

Yeah, he but the the thing with with Sam is um, he's 21 he's on copious amounts of anabolics so where he's going to kill himself. Um and he also has Greg Dustats made a video about it how he has like 1 of the worst diet diets and bodybuilding. Whatever.

35:17.46

christophknoll

He's also like 21

35:32.31

christophknoll

Yay guys. it's it's coach Greg with this high voice hey guys.

35:32.82

Paul

People talk about how Greg's just jealous. Whatever yeah, see we all know his voice ain't like that. That's just for his videos but um, he talks about how he has a really bad diet blah blah blah people talk about how Greg's just jealous because Sam has a physique that Greg could never achieve. Don't matter the point is is that Sam's on way too much gear. He's covered in acne. Um his physique. Although large is not aesthetic because he doesn't have any dense mature muscle yet. It's all superficial. It's all like he would lose it. If you stop taking anabolics and stop training. It would all go away because he's he's 21 he's too young to hold on it. Um I'm 25 and I'm still not old enough to really hold onto a lot of my muscle so well density muscle maturity is not there yet. Um, so you're just pushing it way too hard way too soon? Anyways, um, he the thing with Sam.

36:20.85

christophknoll

Um, yeah.

36:31.20

Paul

Records a lot of what he does in a way kind of like rich but not so serious because it's just him doing it. So it's not like he has a cameraman. He doesn't have like an editor or an editor editor or anything like that. Um, but Sam also has like this like ah. I don't know if you pick up on it. He he almost has like this sad aura to him like he's got this like sad vibe like he's like very lonely That's what that's what he gives off to me I was watching this video yesterday.

36:55.13

christophknoll

That's ah, that's the pulled down hat like it's always like you know, covered up almost.

37:01.29

Paul

Yeah I mean I I wear hat to the gym every day. But for me, it's It's not really necessarily the way he looks. It's more just how he carries himself and he's talking about how he's like ah he's like why would I get in a car.

37:19.28

Paul

Go to the gym or ride a bicycle to the gym music like because the gym's only a few blocks away from me. He's like so why would I do that? Um, that is here PS five beep.

37:28.40

christophknoll

Ah, no, that was my air conditioner turning off. Yeah I'm going to start gaming in the background while we record.

37:32.75

Paul

Oh oh those was a Ps 5 ive feet be um, anyways. Yeah I don't know anyways, um, he was talking about how like why would he ride his bike or driver his car to he called it the rec center I don't know what he went. Um, don't if it means like an actual recreation center if who means the gym. Um, why would he do that and go do cardio scan his key tag walk in do all that when he could just ride the bike at home and just the way he was talking about it the way he was saying things just made it seem like he was very lonely and just very sad.

38:00.34

christophknoll

Yeah.

38:06.98

Paul

I have no idea it's just the way it seemed to me and I went to the com to see if anybody else picked it up and somebody was like Dan this dude just seems depressed and I'm like yeah that's kind of where I'm at but it could be also a lot of what he takes he could be He could be very lonely. But that's just Sam for you and he's on the dangerous side of things because I mean. Haven't watched any of his videos talking about sandoid usage if he has any people say that he's on a Tod but he does talk about his diet which is fucking wild. He drinks two liters of chocolate milk in the morning every day that's just that's his breakfast literally that's his breakfast every single day is. Two liters that's that's almost two gallons that's that not quite but almost two gallons of straight chocolate milk a day we're talking like fifteen hundred and two thousand calories of just straight chocolate milk that has no protein in it I mean he might get like a protein version of chocolate milk but like it's not a substantial amount of protein. Ah early.

39:01.93

christophknoll

It's it's purely just for the galleries.

39:02.96

Paul

Healthy protein. None of it's healthy. Yeah, it's just straight up calories. That's like that's how much weight you're trying to put on right now is just he just needs more and more calories which I mean I guess is one way to do it chocolate milk but that's also like a lot on your system. There's a lot better ways to get a lot of calories in your system. Um, but. Yeah, he just has a really bad diet rich I don't think he had too too bad of a diet. Obviously he had to eat a shit ton. But I think for my understanding from videos I've seen and all of that he would ah eat clean. You know he'd eat. Oats and egg whites and chicken and beef and steak and all that he would eat clean and there's there's videos where he's like he talks about you got to eat ba to get big and how he'd be like he's like 8 what egg whites and oatmeal. He's like breakfast every day and he's like. I'm gonna be honest, tastes like fucking shit and he's like just like shoveling it down and he's like this doesn't taste good. He's like this is this is what my body needs he's like this is what I need to put on size. He's like this is not taste got I do not eat for taste. Ah so rich is diet in that sense is most likely healthier than.

40:00.78

christophknoll

Ah.

40:16.63

Paul

Someone like Sam's but also he did have to take his age into account because he's mid 40 s everything's going to start falling off at that point so he had to kind of kick it up a notch as far as making sure his health was in a better place which obviously did not ring true towards the end as. There were signs a few months prior to his death that he was just on cop use amounts of ah recreational drugs cocaine heroin stuff like that he was he was known for using adderall prior to training which he talked about.

40:52.49

christophknoll

As like as like a I was going to say like a focusing hygen. Yeah.

40:55.57

Paul

Is great for focus. Yeah, like a new tropic basically ah but obviously ah someone for coming from someone myself who takes adderall I could tell you that it affects you in many different ways. Focus is one of them for. If you have something like 80 d or Adhd I'm not sure if rich did it just straight up helps you focus. That's all it is it just calm your mind down There's not a million things going on at once? Um, but if you don't have it. It gives you. It's a stimulant that's really what adderall is is a very strong stimulant. That's why coffee calms me down versus actually giving me energy. Um. So adderall does the same thing where if you don't have 80 d or ad Hd it. It gives you super super jitters and you could be awake for hours and that's why college students will take adderall to study. Um and to pass classes stuff like that. It'll take it at night so that they can study all the way through the night because they'll be awake the entire time and and focused and and just dialed in. Granted there's gonna be a crash. Um, that's one of the side effects of adderall when you first start taking it is that you're gonna crash when it comes out of your system. But for rich he took it prior to workouts so that he'd stay focused and have you know energy and all of that. But the problem is with adderall is it's also. A not really like a blood thinner but it it doesn't promote ah blood flow at all. So his pumps are always shit when he would train with adderall so he'd I think he'd also have to take his actual preout as well. On top of thaterall which he would then take like five six scoops of his.

42:29.26

Paul

Um, I forget what it was at the time now they have different supplements that they put at the time it was like we're talking to over a gram of caffeine. Um worth of shit every time you take his pre-ric out and probably 10 plus grams a beta alanine alone so he was taking a shit ton of pre-work out as well. On top of the adderall. Um, so there's adderall usage. There's heroin usage I believe there is cocaine. Obviously I mean anybody who's as big to p is probably going to be on cocaine and then ah he there was supposed speculation of opiate usage. There are some clips that are actually quite disturbing um of. How he looked when he was towards the end of his his life which we didn't know at the time was the end of his life. But there's a video of his wife. Um I forget her name Jensen is her last name. Um, they never. He never gave her his last name It's just.

43:24.81

christophknoll

Last name is trademarked. Can't take it.

43:25.53

Paul

Let's see.

43:30.93

Paul

Yeah, it's copyrighted if you take my last name you're getting sued. Yeah is Jansen I forget ah yeah I forget her name. Um I know her last name is Jansen I don't remember her first name but he.

43:50.64

Paul

Ah, anyways, she was recording him doesn't matter what her name is she was recording him and he they were in a hotel room I saw this very recently this was like last week I saw this for the first time. Um, he was like if you've ever seen drug abuse you'll know what it looks like the second you see it. Ah, he was like standing up straight but he was like bobbing over and couldn't really stand up straight and was like look like he was completely out of it and is like I for rolling back and shit and like you just trying to stand up straight and she's talking about how like scared she is she looks like he's going to fucking die. And he's going to have like a heart attack or something and he's like no no baby It's okay, I'm fine. He's like I'm not on anything I'm fine I'm fine I'm fine. He's like don't worry don't worry I'm okay and it just like it really showed like we didn't know at the time we really showed the the you know one of the steps towards the end. Um. Because I mean everybody immediately. Everybody speculated a steroid use towards the end. But really, there's no toxicology report which christofph and I talked about prior to recording today but there was no toxicology report done so we don't actually know what it really was that killed them. The Autopsy was unconclusive.

44:58.93

christophknoll

Well the autopsy showed that his the Autopsy showed that his heart and liver were twice the size of a normal man which is I mean to be expected with you know, massive bodybuilders that kind of happens. But obviously that.

45:01.28

Paul

Ah, so I think he.

45:06.89

Paul

Yes, which yeah.

45:14.61

christophknoll

Is detrimental to your internal system.

45:18.99

Paul

Yeah that's one of the biggest side effects to ah, very long-term um steroid use is is your heart enlarging because your liver. That's if you take a lot of orals. Which um I would assume that st that ah bridge was taking a lot of orals drinking a lot probably and all the drugs you was taking in your liver will will probably grow in size because of that your liver just it doesn't really get too too affected from I mean it does get affected from steroid uses absolutely there are ah supplements you could take to support liver. Um, actually 5% nutrition Rich Piana's nutrition. Company has a liver support agent that helps with steroid use. He talked about how he developed it because of the the toll your liver could take ah and steroids and that's because of orals not necessarily injectables but orals. Which can be very very hard in your system, especially something like anodrol and adras very very hard in your liver. But besides the point is your heart's affected by all of it every single steroid your heart's affected by ah and your heart is a muscle That's what it does it pumps. It's a muscle. We subconsciously. Our brain pumps are. Our heart for us imagine having to live our life where we had to go poop po every single like every we had to think about it imagine that that would suck like you're training and you're like 8 set you're like 8 reps in and your hearts at a resting rate and you're just like oh shit, it's.

46:43.50

christophknoll

No, you're you're you're doing a Pr or some kind of on a deadlift and you're like to truly sub to truly send all of my energy to my you know legs and back I'm going to stop my heart.

46:46.11

Paul

So I get to get caught back up.

47:00.13

Paul

1 last giant pump straight to the straight to the back for lats and then you stop it and then lift done on but to die. Ah, that's cardia arrest for you, you just put yourself into cardiac arrest on purpose. Ah.

47:07.33

christophknoll

Yeah.

47:12.82

christophknoll

For the best pump possible.

47:15.75

Paul

But yeah, so he yeah just imagine that that'd be great if we could focus our blood in one area just be like I want a little bit more towards my biceps please.

47:21.87

christophknoll

Well well, there's that joke that that meme ah video. Ah, it's these guys who are not in the gym but they make fun of ah pre-workout names and it's like the last they go through like 20 of them and the last one is like this one's luly called you will die at the end of your workout.

47:37.90

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

47:39.48

christophknoll

My buddy took it but right before he died he said it was the best pump he ever had.

47:46.69

Paul

There's so there's I think you' see similar videos to that. It's like um, it's like ah I think it was Ted where they like named all the like stupid weed names I think it was Ted too. It's like that. It's like all these wackass names. But um, yeah, so.

47:56.28

christophknoll

Yep.

48:04.27

Paul

Your heart is going to enlarge over time because as a muscle it's always working it never stops unless you have a heart attack which is what a heart attack is you go you you die because your heart stops. But um, it enlarges over time and builds a plaque. So plaque is much. It's almost like think about plaque like on your teeth. It's just a buildup of bacteria basically just like material stuff that that builds up over time which can be remedied. You can remove plaque from heart through surgery and and also preventative care and all of that but plaque is built up through anabolic usage as well as just. Your heart getting bigger. Um, and I can only imagine how big bridge pe on his heart was with how long he was using steroids for ah but yeah, he I think he did go into cardiac arrest due to like as far as his death actually goes. But as far as what caused that. Um, people think it's because of an opiate overdose which can put you into cardiac arrest from my understanding the ah the Autopsy wasn't conclusive as to like exactly what killed him but from my understanding um he he had a cardiac arrest. Um. You see he was in a coma for a couple weeks and then.

49:21.47

christophknoll

Well yeah, so my theory on that too is like because that's a medically induced coma to try and help prevent the swelling that was going on but my my under. So I mean I have a very in-depth understanding and knowledge of ah you know.

49:27.45

Paul

Correct. Yeah.

49:37.43

christophknoll

Abuse and ah withdrawals and whatnot and I'm willing to bet dimes on the dozen that it was the withdrawals that killed him because the the he was put into that coma to you know, help counteract everything but your body needs to go through the withdrawals and if you go cold Turkey which is what a coma will do because you're not taking anything.

49:43.73

Paul

This is.

49:55.79

christophknoll

Your system completely restarts. So I'm willing to bet it was that.

50:00.88

Paul

Yeah that's a good thing to mention too is that a lot of people don't realize with harder drugs and alcohol and stuff like that if you're so deep into it a withdrawal like withdrawals and and going culture. It can kill you? um. That's why things like suboxin exists is so that you don't die for withdrawals. Um, it helps remedy the withdrawals a little bit. But yeah, that's a good point that that could be very well what could have happened. Um he was in that coma for two weeks and then he was pronounced dead. Um I think just because he was basically just braed dead at that point like there was no saving him. There was no going back. His brain was too swollen. Um so was August Twenty fifth um unfortunately at the age of 46 which is where the young 46 is way too young. Um, and it's sad because. Ah there's a video where somebody said he was talking about he was talking about Dallas Mccarver and how Dallas mccarver I think it was him who was talking with Dallas Mccarver how Dallas Died at 25 enty five or 26 and he goes was it him I don't know who he's talking about. But he said he said Ben he's like even at that age that's still you're still so young, you're still just a pop and like that gets to me because people could say that about him you know I'd be like dude 46 is way too young, you're still just a pop like you could just say that about any age like there's so much more life to live.

51:22.63

christophknoll

Well I was going to say like in in the bodybuilding world too like you know, most guys like Olympia level retiring in their late 30 s or something like that and your mid to late 40 s is when you just start getting into the like I'm not going to say like.

51:24.84

Paul

Beyond 46 I mean if.

51:42.72

christophknoll

Legends but like like that's when you start to actually have like a big following like think Ronnie like so many people are like influenced him by him now and it's like he's alive and able to not relish in that fact, but he's able to appreciate that because of how influential he still is from his previous work.

51:52.36

Paul

Is.

52:01.64

Paul

Yeah, yeah.

52:02.22

christophknoll

And you don't see that until you know 1020 years after you retire, it's like with any other major league athlete like Nfl players. You know they become analysts and whatnot and you can ah like utilize and appreciate their mind after that point which is what a lot of guys can do and that we never I mean we only get.

52:07.72

Paul

Please.

52:20.43

christophknoll

His training stuff. We don't get any of his like looking back 20 years what I would have done. You know.

52:25.00

Paul

Um, yeah, um, a good thing to mention actually that really ties to that is painters um artists ah most painters that have very large very popular paintings. Ah, didn't actually get big until after they died Vincent Van Gogh arguably the most popular painter of all time anybody will know who Vincent Van Goh is when you mentioned his name. He only sold 1 painting throughout his whole life. He was never a big painter people actually didn't like his paintings back in the eighteen hundreds. There's a whole episode you guys.

52:43.90

christophknoll

Ah.

52:58.86

Paul

If there's any episode of doctor who I think people should watch. It's if it's vengo episode phenomenal episode. Um, it's it's a little weird. It's it's doctor who so like there's like this alien thing going on. But anyways they bring they they meet Vincent Van Goh and the reality is that when he was alive.

53:06.73

christophknoll

Yeah.

53:18.00

Paul

Um, in the late eighteen hundreds nobody wanted his paintings. He was the town drunk he was the town weirdo you know his paintings were terrible. People didn't like his art style That's you know, terrible to them at the time. Um, so nobody bought him nothing like that so they brought him to the future and showed him the Vincent Van Gogh exhibit at like the Lenin art museum or something like that and that gave him the motivation to keep going so like that like in the story you know doctor who is the reason why Vincent Ben Goh painted all of his big paintings. But um, that's the reality for painters bodybuilder's a lot of time. That's yeah, it's real with the tardis.

53:51.40

christophknoll

That's a documentary. It's not fiction I.

53:56.79

Paul

Police box. Um, but yeah, it's it's it's a very interesting story. So I think you should check it out. But I think that would be true with a lot of bodybuilders. Um, imagine if Rodney Coleman passed away shortly after competing you know in the o 8 Olympia. Whatever his last one. Um, or if those was always 6 or I forget which one it was. We would only say what if what would it be like today if he was alive what what wisdom could he bestow upon us. What information I think Ronnie the problem with Ronnie now is that he's so big in the bodybuilding world. He's less about.

54:33.20

Paul

Giving information and just more about just being Ronnie Coleman there's a video I saw recently that really to me bugged me um because it just it didn't really show much humility and this guy goes it was a question video on Youtube short.

54:34.68

christophknoll

Yeah.

54:47.93

Paul

And he goes ah, this guy goes hey hey Ronnie do you have a photo of you before bodybuiling and a photo of you like after bodybuiling like during bodybuiling like so we could see a comparison of like what you looked like as you know a kid or whatever basically is what the guy was asking. And Ronnie goes. Yeah, if you google Ronnie Coleman before bodybuilding and then Ronney Coleman after bodybuilding, you'll get all the photos you want and it's like that's not where we're asking asking like for like a home photo like do you have like a photo that could show us that like is hard to find or something that like really shows who you what you look like. And like that that really bothered me because he's like I'm not going to do that like that's basically what he's saying like I'm not going to do that you you look it up and it's like you you could have googled that in 3 seconds without asking them the question it took longer to ask a question than Google it he wanted a different result. Um I think rich pianoa a big thing with rich pin was that he was very very cool. Dude he's very cute.

55:30.15

christophknoll

Yeah.

55:42.47

Paul

Very humble, very nice guy and a lot of people who've met him will say that he was. He was a great guy. Um, and that's really the one of the things I really want to be able to do one day is that you know if I have you know if we have some sort of fan base or something one day. I just always keep your humility. You know, just we're all just you're all just people you know at the end of the day and I wouldn't want to meet someone and be disappointed. You know that's why they say never meet you heroes but Rich Piana was the one you for they actually want to meet because he's such a cool dude and there's just 1 comment somebody said that he um. He met rich randomly and he said I'm a big fan. You know you inspired me stuff stuff like that and you said rich sat down with them for a half hour and just they just shot the shit just like randomly like he kind of interrupted his day wherever they were.

56:27.23

christophknoll

Yeah.

56:33.57

Paul

And rich just hung out for a half hourur and chatted with him and it's like that's the type of person that you want to influence others um you don't want I mean Rodney don't get me. Don't get me wrong. He might have has been in a mood or something like that. But you know if if roddey is always like that where he's always like. You know who I am just do the work yourself. It's like that's not the type of person I I want influencing people. You know we'll commend him for his bodybuilding but as a person if he's like that all the time. That's just that's just too much but yeah, rich is a very very good guy. So I commend him for that as well.

57:03.86

christophknoll

Yeah, and I mean with Ronnie too like Ronnie looks so much older than he actually is like if you see the videos of him working out with Arnold and arnold is like well like 20 years older than him something like that and yeah.

57:18.80

Paul

He a late seventy s I think now or something right? I forget how old Artney is um.

57:20.90

christophknoll

And Ronnie just looks like the same age as arnold like that's part of it. But yeah, no adding adding ah riches experience to my list of ah of dream things standing in that elevator and going who you like that. That's.

57:37.21

Paul

Yeah, who who are you competing at this at this show today. Whatever the show is called I forget what it's called.

57:40.20

christophknoll

That's now on the list of dreams.

57:45.84

christophknoll

Ah, no, no, no you oh who's your who's gonna be your favorite on stage imagine asking that yeah imagine asking that to like a guy who's locked in for like top 5 Ah.

57:54.34

Paul

Who you rooting for? um.

57:59.45

Paul

Like big romney with his death face and everything. Oh who do you think who do you think Iss going to win I don't know who's goingnna win I don't know anybody on the stage you be like oh would be even funnyd. It was like oh do you? Ah you go to the gym at all. It is like just like do.

58:15.43

christophknoll

Ah, you natty how can I achieve how can I achieve your stuff. Naturally oh my god.

58:18.20

Paul

Do you trade it all or yeah, just like I mean I could tell you're natural.

58:29.28

Paul

There's like just completely shit on him. It's like that. It's like that. There's that meme where it's like when you walk into a new gym and like have you been in the gym before and it was like like basically just talking like the audacity like how dare you say that to me that is such an insult like you walk into a Jib It's like. You've been trained for years and years and years and you compete professionally they're just like oh you revited gym before you piece of shit you sort of a bitch I'm leaving. That's how you I know more than you? Yeah, yeah, exactly.

58:51.85

christophknoll

Ah, it's like the ah the the parks and rec meme that where the he's on the hardware store and he goes left to him I know more than you.

59:04.40

Paul

First the trader comes up to me. He's like hey gotta give you tip I know more than you righty it walks away. Um, but yeah, it's I mean Ronnie put his body through so much shit. That's why he looks the way he does I mean Jay Cutler a good example of what you could look like if you went the healthier route. Granted Jay was also very hard on his body with the food. Um, so you know he got fat and the off season which wasn't good for you. But um, yeah, Roni is a different world. He heated damage his body a lot. But.

59:25.42

christophknoll

Yeah.

59:38.15

Paul

Um, over here do to side Chess is that what you're doing reallyly boom. Yeah um, but yeah so I mean at the end of the day I think Rich has a really good message and I think a lot of people should watch some of his motivational stuff and he talks about leaving the ego at the door um being humble.

59:38.39

christophknoll

Yeah, you know just gotta gotta flex.

59:57.90

Paul

Um, everybody one of one of his quotes one of my one of his quotes that I still live to that I still look up to that. It helped me a lot getting through the the mental side of swap swapping or prep book to I think I talked about it was rich saying um, we're all in this shit together like a motherfuck family and.

01:00:14.29

christophknoll

Yep.

01:00:15.56

Paul

Um, that's the reality is we're all we are all in this shit together and at the end of the day. We all love the same thing really no matter how you look at it training is training. Um, besides crossfith, that doesn't count but training is training and ah eating is eating so. We're all we all have this sick desire to to to alter our bodies and we're all in the shit together. You know as much as I want to beat the guys I'm competing against I also wish them that most success. Ah and we all have our pros and cons. You know we got to work on. We all have our adversities. We got to persevere through and in our flaws we got to improve upon but at the end of the day everybody has that everybody has those things so we got to work the best we can and unfortunately rich I think just kind of succumbed to it. He's cut. He succumbed to his flaws and and fed too much into potentially his drug abuse and. That's what ended up killing him and we lost him way too soon? Um, many many years before we should have ever have lost him if we still had him today I think the world would be a better place especially in fitness but it is what it is. We lost him and all we can do is just look back and watch videos of what he used to say and what he has said and um. And apply it to today's world and like I said he's ahead of his time. So everything you say in 2016 2017 hold is more true now than it did back in the day he was just way ahead of his time.

01:01:42.84

christophknoll

Hell yeah, well well, ah well, we'll keep mentioning his name. You'll hear his name constantly throughout this podcast.

01:01:49.72

Paul

Ah, for sure for sure. Oops busted.

01:01:54.50

christophknoll

Um, this is just a snack. It doesn't count.

01:01:59.51

Paul

We'll keep commoting him we'll we'll constantly quote them I'll watch those bigger by the day and I'll just up make obscure quotes from bigger by the day. Yeah, yeah, just yeah, it'd be good. But anyways we appreciate you guys listening. It was fun.

01:02:03.83

christophknoll

Yeah, just to test me see if I've seen him. But.

01:02:15.76

christophknoll

Hell yeah.

01:02:16.14

Paul

Ah, Rich Piana is a great guy so check out his information or his Youtube I mean and and look him up and all that check him out but all right see you guys see up.

01:02:22.78

christophknoll

Hell yeah, all right everybody we'll be seeing guys next week peace.


1 view0 comments

Recent Posts

See All

Kommentare


bottom of page